--- Log opened Thu Jul 25 00:00:19 2013
20130725 00:03:03< mcwise> what
20130725 00:03:05< mcwise> come on
20130725 00:03:11< Grognor> agh playing this game was such a bad idea
20130725 00:03:16< Grognor> why did I ever like this game
20130725 00:04:19< mcwise> you had me under your control...
20130725 00:04:46< Grognor> I had 5 deaths to your 1
20130725 00:04:50< Grognor> and it was dawn
20130725 00:04:52< mcwise> you had 5 deaths?
20130725 00:04:53< Grognor> there was no winning that game
20130725 00:04:57< Grognor> yes
20130725 00:04:59< mcwise> I count 2 assasins
20130725 00:05:04< mcwise> + naga
20130725 00:05:09< mcwise> oh sorry
20130725 00:05:14< mcwise> 1 assassin, 1 bow man, 1 naga
20130725 00:05:16< Grognor> and one goblin spearman and one archer
20130725 00:05:31< Grognor> 2 assassins, 1 archer, 1 naga, 1 spearman
20130725 00:05:47< mcwise> ok I didn'T realise that
20130725 00:05:50< mcwise> I felt pressured
20130725 00:06:06< Grognor> ALL of them, due to luck
20130725 00:06:12< Grognor> okay not all of them
20130725 00:06:13< Grognor> three of them
20130725 00:07:01< Grognor> I'm willing to play again if you're not bitter about my quitting :s
20130725 00:08:21< mcwise> I am not bitter I am shocked
20130725 00:08:34< mcwise> I mean you don't take fun in it?
20130725 00:08:38< mcwise> we don't have to play :/
20130725 00:09:01< Grognor> I don't take fun in losing by ridiculous margins
20130725 00:09:08< Grognor> from turn 1, I had no chance
20130725 00:09:17< Gambit> Simple solution: play the GambCiv add-on. Then everyone knows equally little about how anything works ;D
20130725 00:09:18< mcwise> from turn 1 already?
20130725 00:09:27< mcwise> why from turn 1?
20130725 00:09:32< Grognor> that was the worst I've ever lost any game, of anything, in my entire life
20130725 00:09:56< Grognor> I was closer to beating ninja gaiden the very first time I played it
20130725 00:10:12< Grognor> anyway same password if you're getting in
20130725 00:10:17< mcwise> you did not lose it though
20130725 00:10:53< Grognor> don't play dumb, I was going to lose so I surrendered
20130725 00:11:14< mcwise> seriously I didn't notice my advantage
20130725 00:11:26< mcwise> to be honest I had only 6 of 7 villages for all turns except the last
20130725 00:11:26< Grognor> well, I did
20130725 00:11:30< Grognor> 5 losses to 1
20130725 00:11:32< mcwise> you probably had a money advantage
20130725 00:11:38< Grognor> come on, don't pretend I had a chance
20130725 00:11:43< mcwise> dude I tell you
20130725 00:11:48< mcwise> I had no idea of my position
20130725 00:11:50-!- Crendgrim_ is now known as Crendgrim
20130725 00:11:57< mcwise> I was pushed fairly far to my side as well
20130725 00:11:57< Grognor> I don't care
20130725 00:12:12< mcwise> it not only comes down to the really situation. psychology can do some tricks as well
20130725 00:12:49< Grognor> it was daytime!
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20130725 00:13:22< Grognor> I don't want to think about or talk about that game anymore, ever again
20130725 00:13:32< Grognor> are you going to give me a chance to redeem myself
20130725 00:13:33< Grognor> or not
20130725 00:14:11< mcwise> yes
20130725 00:14:15< mcwise> host another matc
20130725 00:14:23< mcwise> and don't leave it before one of the leaders is killed
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20130725 00:15:06< Grognor> I have been hosting one for some time
20130725 00:16:00< mcwise> sorry, I wasn't in the server
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20130725 01:53:48< mcwise> Grognor, very good fight
20130725 01:54:12< mcwise> I actually thought I might be able to survive your first wave better and push you back
20130725 01:54:15< Grognor> thank you
20130725 01:54:26< mcwise> hmmm well "first wave" after it got apparent I will lsoe
20130725 01:55:03< mcwise> I think I sent 3 footpads to the side lanes to try to sneak a village, but I should rather send 1 or 2 and have more front liners for the mid lane
20130725 01:55:20< mcwise> I didn't expect to be overrun by hordes of orcs :/
20130725 01:55:44< Grognor> you probably should have recruited more than zero gryphons
20130725 01:55:53< mcwise> hm
20130725 01:56:11< mcwise> I considered the terrain to be not open enough for a gryphon
20130725 01:56:16< mcwise> but yeah I might as well pick one up
20130725 01:56:33< mcwise> but I seriously have no idea how I could be so lucky all the time
20130725 01:56:39< Grognor> one of the weaknesses of the northerners is low damage per hex
20130725 01:57:07< Grognor> well, at the end it didn't matter how lucky you were since I had 10 out of 12 villages
20130725 01:57:36< Grognor> I agree with you about the footpads, those aren't a good unit against northerners
20130725 01:57:49< Grognor> because notherners have nothing that's weak against blunt damage
20130725 01:58:00< Grognor> which is the primary reason for recruiting them instead of gryphons as scouts
20130725 01:58:33< mcwise> I got tricked by the meta atmosphere of the game
20130725 01:58:36< mcwise> *map
20130725 01:58:39< mcwise> it is more like a dungeon
20130725 01:58:46< mcwise> and footpads fit more to a dungeon than gryphons
20130725 01:59:25< mcwise> I actually really liked this map
20130725 01:59:49< Grognor> it's not like there was anything on the map capable of slowing down a gryphon
20130725 02:00:47< Grognor> I'm trying to think of what else you might have done wrong
20130725 02:00:56< Grognor> sending a footpad to my village on the right was the first obvious mistake
20130725 02:01:07< Grognor> it's easy for a leader to get there
20130725 02:01:27< Grognor> about a week ago I played someone who made the same mistake, except I was loyalists and he was drakes
20130725 02:01:29< mcwise> well I sent 1 unit to every side then I think 1 again to every side to help them
20130725 02:01:41< mcwise> so you easily got one of my villages mid
20130725 02:01:42< Grognor> he sent a fighter and a glider to that exact village and I had a cavalryman on it
20130725 02:01:44< mcwise> and from then on I was lost
20130725 02:01:50< Grognor> I pushed him out of there with my javelineer leader
20130725 02:02:10< Grognor> oh yeah, I got that village because you straight-up abandoned it
20130725 02:02:16< mcwise> yes
20130725 02:02:24< mcwise> I did some moves I planned
20130725 02:02:26< Grognor> why did you do that/
20130725 02:02:28< Grognor> ?
20130725 02:02:32< mcwise> and then I noticed, I don't have a unit to guard the village anymore
20130725 02:02:37< mcwise> I had a quite nearby unit
20130725 02:02:43< mcwise> but it couldn't reach the village
20130725 02:02:51< mcwise> that was really annoying lol
20130725 02:03:14< Grognor> dwarves are slow, that's their main disadvantage
20130725 02:03:14< mcwise> well it was my 2nd 1on1 this year
20130725 02:03:28< mcwise> (or 3rd if we want to let it count :P)
20130725 02:03:40< Grognor> I took advantage of that on the left side as well if you recall
20130725 02:03:50< mcwise> and I don't think I played this game much for the last years.
20130725 02:03:52< Grognor> when you sent your whole army to that village on the right, you left open the one on the left
20130725 02:04:03< mcwise> I learned pretty much from those 2 games vs you though.
20130725 02:04:07< mcwise> yes
20130725 02:04:14< mcwise> you sneaked to the village in the left side lane
20130725 02:04:17< mcwise> I didn't even realize it
20130725 02:04:27< mcwise> until I noticed the amount of villages I own
20130725 02:04:35< mcwise> it was only 4 I think
20130725 02:04:43< Grognor> even though I won, I think I'm really bad at playing northerners
20130725 02:04:46< mcwise> then I had a hard time to earn this one back
20130725 02:04:52< Grognor> they're supposed to be expendable I think
20130725 02:04:59< mcwise> expendable?
20130725 02:05:05< Grognor> they're all really cheap
20130725 02:05:10< mcwise> yes
20130725 02:05:16< Grognor> the most expensive northerner units are 17 gold
20130725 02:05:17< mcwise> you fight in masses
20130725 02:05:35< Grognor> it makes it easy to zonelock everything except skirmishers
20130725 02:05:50< Grognor> even against them, there are so many orcs that it's possible to block them with a solid wall of units
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20130725 02:06:09< Grognor> I summoned too many goblin spearmen, probably. they didn't do much.
20130725 02:06:17< mcwise> yes I think so too
20130725 02:06:23< Grognor> I just like level 0 units too much
20130725 02:06:23< mcwise> even though it made no difference
20130725 02:06:31< mcwise> it was a really poor performance by me :P
20130725 02:07:11< mcwise> but still you surprised me at least twice in this one
20130725 02:07:33< mcwise> how you killed my footpad on the right side, and how you sneaked my village on the left side
20130725 02:07:51< Grognor> oh, right, with the assassin
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20130725 02:08:13< Grognor> I even forgot about that
20130725 02:08:16< mcwise> hehe
20130725 02:08:21< Grognor> I really wanted him to live for some reason
20130725 02:08:21< mcwise> it was right at the start
20130725 02:08:27< Grognor> instead I should have just poisoned your leader and let him die
20130725 02:08:32< mcwise> but to be honest
20130725 02:08:32< Grognor> it would have made the game last 18 turns instead of 23
20130725 02:08:43< mcwise> it was really fun to defend against you even though I would be losing
20130725 02:08:53< mcwise> don't quit me another time because it sucks. :P
20130725 02:09:47< Grognor> I'm sorry about that
20130725 02:09:50< mcwise> to be fair, defending with orcs probably isn't so fun as defending with dwarves
20130725 02:10:02< Grognor> for me, it's really hard to stay in high spirits when I'm losing by a lot
20130725 02:10:12< Grognor> dwarves are *made* for defending
20130725 02:10:25< Grognor> that's why it took so long with that all-out assault at the end
20130725 02:10:29< mcwise> Even in a random wesnoth match up :O Come on 
20130725 02:10:31< Grognor> I even had to go back and recruit more units
20130725 02:10:34< mcwise> yep I like that aspect of them
20130725 02:10:46< Grognor> dwarves are my second-favorite faction
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20130725 02:11:00< mcwise> what's your most favorite one?
20130725 02:11:08< PK_> *cough* loyalists *cough*
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20130725 02:11:16< Grognor> undead
20130725 02:11:20< PK_> second guess
20130725 02:11:24< mcwise> sup PK_  
20130725 02:11:32< Grognor> what's with the coughing? you okay, buddy?
20130725 02:11:36< mcwise> you won't trick me in playing another round tonight! :D
20130725 02:11:47< mcwise> I have to study, can't afford to stay up until 5-6 am again
20130725 02:11:50< PK_> Wanna play Russian Roulette?
20130725 02:11:52< PK_> only 6 rounds.
20130725 02:11:57< mcwise> ok
20130725 02:12:11< mcwise> wait, how long is one round. 30 minutes?
20130725 02:12:21< PK_> Depends
20130725 02:12:31< Grognor> seriously I am missing the implications of my favorite faction being loyalists or undead
20130725 02:12:42< PK_> My favorite factions are loyalists and undead
20130725 02:12:47< mcwise> ah
20130725 02:12:50< PK_> therefore yours must be too, becuase you have good taste.
20130725 02:12:52< mcwise> I like undead and dwarves really much
20130725 02:12:56< Grognor> don't get me wrong, I like loyalists
20130725 02:13:05< Grognor> I just don't like them as much as knalgans or undead
20130725 02:13:13< PK_> Loys are my fave, flat out.
20130725 02:13:19< mcwise> I liked loyalists years back whenI was taking the tutorial and other elf campaigs. but now I don't like them as much
20130725 02:13:33< PK_> Spearmen, so b+b
20130725 02:13:35< Grognor> loyalists are brutally effective against everything it's scary
20130725 02:13:52< mcwise> so PK_ was the Russian Roulette thing only a build up for the bad pun of 6 rounds or for real? :D
20130725 02:14:02< PK_> bad puns, all day all night
20130725 02:14:13< mcwise> Grognor, I see them as the allrounders
20130725 02:14:27< mcwise> most (every?) of them have both melee and ranged attacks for instance
20130725 02:14:36< mcwise> but I'm no expert of this game so I might be wrong
20130725 02:14:45< PK_> fencers, hi, horsemen all do not
20130725 02:14:50< PK_> nor merms
20130725 02:15:01< mcwise> horsemen do
20130725 02:15:06< mcwise> I don't know fencers nor hi
20130725 02:15:09< PK_> Horsemen have no ranged attack.
20130725 02:15:13< Grognor> most loyalists are melee only
20130725 02:15:15< PK_> cavalry have to level up.
20130725 02:15:21< PK_> to get them
20130725 02:15:23< Grognor> drakes and rebels are all melee + ranged except for one unit
20130725 02:15:33< Grognor> loyalists are all melee except for 3 units
20130725 02:15:34< mcwise> erm
20130725 02:15:35< mcwise> oops
20130725 02:15:39< mcwise> I talked about rebels
20130725 02:15:40< mcwise> SORRY
20130725 02:15:43< PK_> Loyalists are well rounded, and have good counters for drakes, and undead.
20130725 02:15:58< mcwise> <mcwise> I liked loyalists years back whenI was taking the tutorial and other elf campaigs. but now I don't like them as much
20130725 02:16:01< Grognor> and indeed, drakes and undead are the factions that most need to be countered
20130725 02:16:02< mcwise> ^ I talked about rebels as well
20130725 02:16:16< Grognor> I still don't know what knalgans are supposed to do against ghosts
20130725 02:16:16< mcwise> therefore, elf campaign
20130725 02:16:24< mcwise> urf them
20130725 02:16:35< mcwise> ghosts don't have good damage
20130725 02:16:39< mcwise> I don't see their strength
20130725 02:16:40< Grognor> ghosts can *win* against ulfserkers
20130725 02:16:42< Grognor> because drain
20130725 02:16:49< mcwise> ah, right
20130725 02:16:55< PK_> they also have good resists
20130725 02:16:59< PK_> which is always nice.
20130725 02:17:01< Grognor> plus they have 7 move, so it's easier for them to force the ulfserkers onto bad terrain
20130725 02:17:12< Grognor> dwarves can't do fire or arcane, which are the only things that do Real Damage to chosts
20130725 02:17:14< Grognor> *ghosts
20130725 02:17:45< Grognor> dwarves can softcounter skeletons with footpads and fighters (because the latter has a hammer), but really this is the main faction that seems to me to be a straight-up advantage
20130725 02:17:52< Grognor> undead vs. knalgans
20130725 02:18:07< PK_> ghosts have minute trouble with thunderers
20130725 02:18:17< PK_> but it's risky
20130725 02:18:23< Grognor> I would say the same for undead vs. northeners if northerners didn't have a fire attack
20130725 02:18:25< PK_> because thunderers are bad against the other undead units
20130725 02:18:39< Grognor> also because they only get one shot
20130725 02:18:42< PK_> except DA. They're good against DA
20130725 02:18:54< PK_> If only they had a shotgun advancement with MC's Collateral.
20130725 02:18:54< Grognor> what no, DA shoots back almost as hard
20130725 02:19:06< Grognor> MC?
20130725 02:19:13< PK_> Modern Combat.
20130725 02:19:16< mcwise> I thought he is trolling with that note on DA
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20130725 02:19:37< PK_> Thunderer's are one of two ranged units that dwarves have.
20130725 02:19:47< Grognor> one thing to do I guess is just literally not attack the undead during night
20130725 02:19:53< mcwise> yes
20130725 02:19:54< PK_> if the opponent gets lots of DA, thunderers are the better choice because they smack it to the DA in retal.
20130725 02:20:02< Grognor> except DA, of course.
20130725 02:20:16< Grognor> okay that makes sense
20130725 02:20:18< mcwise> dwarves can just stand their ground (or stand their mountain) during night and push at day
20130725 02:20:27< Grognor> typically, however, the enemy is smart enough to only attack your melee units with DA
20130725 02:20:40< Grognor> I know mcwise was
20130725 02:20:50< mcwise> yes
20130725 02:20:52< mcwise> I remember now
20130725 02:21:05< mcwise> my epic DA rush towards your village lol
20130725 02:21:24< Grognor> one idea that seems like it *should* work against undead is dwarvish guardsman
20130725 02:21:32< Grognor> but it doesn't! because almost the entire faction has pierce resist!
20130725 02:21:39< Grognor> it's ridiculous, it's not even funny
20130725 02:21:50< PK_> the one faction I can't recruit 50% spearmen
20130725 02:21:58< PK_> sad face
20130725 02:22:09< Grognor> yeah you have to get mages and those are expensive :[
20130725 02:22:15< PK_> mages and hi.
20130725 02:22:17< PK_> all day long
20130725 02:22:42< Grognor> undead have some hardcounters for HI though
20130725 02:22:48< PK_> a single horseman isn't a bad idea vs undead if you're lieu.
20130725 02:22:53< mcwise> man you guys know too much about the game
20130725 02:22:55< Grognor> ghosts and DA
20130725 02:22:57< Grognor> lieu?
20130725 02:23:02< PK_> lieutenant leader
20130725 02:23:05< Grognor> oh, lieuten-
20130725 02:23:07< Grognor> yeah
20130725 02:23:15< PK_> horsemen, so good at picking off da
20130725 02:23:19< Grognor> I'm picking up the abbreviations
20130725 02:23:33< Grognor> are fencers a good idea against undead?
20130725 02:23:39< PK_> meeeeh
20130725 02:23:41< Grognor> you know, for sneaking off to poke the DAs
20130725 02:23:43< PK_> they have ups and downs
20130725 02:24:13< PK_> but I haven't played much recently, and the one game of loys vs undead I played I had one fencer, and it did okay.
20130725 02:24:27< PK_> slightly better than a spearman.
20130725 02:24:36< Grognor> I played drakes against undead once and 
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20130725 02:24:58< Grognor> well I got a saurian skirmisher and let's just say he pulled his own weight and the weight of at least 2 dragons
20130725 02:24:58< mcwise> of all the races, I am most unfamiliar with drakes :|
20130725 02:25:07< PK_> I pretty much never play anything that isn't Loys/Undead/Knalgans
20130725 02:25:10< PK_> in that order
20130725 02:25:20< Grognor> they're weak against pierce and cold and they do lots of ranged fire damage. that's what you need to know about drakes
20130725 02:25:31< mcwise> well they have so many different units
20130725 02:25:33< PK_> They're also expensive, and have low evasion
20130725 02:25:38< PK_> but are fast and tough
20130725 02:25:44< Grognor> I usually pick random because I don't like when the enemy counterpicks me on turn 1 :[
20130725 02:25:58< PK_> I just play loys, cause you can't really "counterpick" them.
20130725 02:26:03< mcwise> well I either pick undead, dwarves or random :P
20130725 02:26:04< Grognor> loyalists have more unit options than any other faction
20130725 02:26:14< Grognor> well you can get stuff with pierce resist
20130725 02:26:17< PK_> yeah
20130725 02:26:21< Grognor> since 80% of the loyalist army does pierce
20130725 02:26:25< PK_> mmmm
20130725 02:26:28< Grognor> okay, 50%
20130725 02:26:29< Grognor> but still
20130725 02:26:33< PK_> Archers, Horsemen, and Spearmen
20130725 02:26:41< PK_> that's 3 units, but yes. Good ones.
20130725 02:27:00< PK_> Oh, and mermen
20130725 02:27:06< PK_> but I almost never get mermen
20130725 02:27:14< Grognor> yeah they're easy to forget about
20130725 02:27:18< PK_> if I do it's just to get a village
20130725 02:27:23< Grognor> but that is in fact 50% of the available units
20130725 02:27:29< PK_> really? 8?
20130725 02:27:33< PK_> Huh. I thought it was 9.
20130725 02:27:44< PK_> I guess you're right.
20130725 02:28:00< PK_> But yes. Blade/Pierce resist is a generally good recruit versus loys
20130725 02:28:02< mcwise> ach, damn me
20130725 02:28:07< mcwise> I always mix loyalists and rebels.
20130725 02:28:09< Grognor> plus, spearmen, archers, and mermen are on the cheaper half of the loyalist faction
20130725 02:28:18< PK_> Yes. Also truth
20130725 02:28:21< Grognor> so there are usually more of them than the non-pierce units
20130725 02:28:32< PK_> So if you know your opponent is loyalist -
20130725 02:28:35< PK_> Drakes get saurians
20130725 02:28:39< Grognor> I'm just saying, I associate loyalists with pierce damage and this is not entirely unreasonable
20130725 02:28:40< PK_> Undead cry
20130725 02:28:54< Grognor> undead get lots of ghosts and skeletons and maybe a ghoul or two
20130725 02:29:02< PK_> Rebels might get more wose.
20130725 02:29:09< PK_> DA, Ghoul, Ghost is the best choice for Undead vs Loys
20130725 02:29:13< Grognor> no way! mages do fire damage, which explodes woses
20130725 02:29:26< PK_> I only get mage on the support end
20130725 02:29:36< Grognor> I'd get skeleton archers against loyalists
20130725 02:29:39< PK_> but that's why I said "might"
20130725 02:29:43< Grognor> because horsemen and cavalrymen are weak to pierce
20130725 02:29:55< Grognor> and this is the only source of pierce damage from undead
20130725 02:29:56< PK_> I've never gotten more than one of either.
20130725 02:30:18< PK_> Cavalrymen might be an okay choice against something.
20130725 02:30:25< PK_> but I'm not sure what...
20130725 02:30:30< mcwise> guys
20130725 02:30:31< mcwise> why don't you
20130725 02:30:32< Grognor> uh
20130725 02:30:33< mcwise> play vs each other
20130725 02:30:36< mcwise> :D
20130725 02:30:39< PK_> Because I hate default.
20130725 02:30:45< PK_> I play like, once a year.
20130725 02:30:58< Grognor> northerners?
20130725 02:31:03< Grognor> yeahhh
20130725 02:31:22< PK_> northerners are my second least favorite
20130725 02:31:24< PK_> next to drakes
20130725 02:31:28< PK_> who I can't play for my life
20130725 02:31:31< Grognor> I kinda like them
20130725 02:31:44< Grognor> I like all the factions
20130725 02:31:55< PK_> I like all the mods I make.
20130725 02:31:56< Grognor> even the rebels
20130725 02:32:05< PK_> I'm fine with rebels, but they just bug me
20130725 02:32:07< Grognor> it's a shame we can't play with each other
20130725 02:32:07< PK_> Forests....
20130725 02:32:20< Grognor> I'm a vanilla man at heart, you see
20130725 02:32:23< PK_> Yeah, sorry.
20130725 02:32:28< Grognor> I almost never use mods
20130725 02:32:32< PK_> Played vanilla from 1.1 to like 1.4
20130725 02:32:42< PK_> then I got bored and dabbled in mods
20130725 02:33:01< PK_> or was it 1.3
20130725 02:33:05< PK_> I don't even remember
20130725 02:33:23< Grognor> vanilla is the schelling point
20130725 02:33:26< Grognor> this is a pretty obscure game
20130725 02:33:35< Grognor> anything else, you'll have a hard time finding anyone to play with, ne?
20130725 02:33:40< PK_> I just like making games with other games.
20130725 02:33:53< PK_> and this one is really easy
20130725 02:33:59< Grognor> bah, program something in LISP and program a game that programs games
20130725 02:34:24< PK_> I don't have a lisp. I can speak just fine.
20130725 02:34:48< Grognor> it's a programming language
20130725 02:34:56< mcwise> I think he knows.
20130725 02:35:02< mcwise> PK_ = PunKreator
20130725 02:35:02< PK_> I guessed as much
20130725 02:35:11< mcwise> or more like
20130725 02:35:21< PK_> PunkCreator
20130725 02:35:25< PK_> ?
20130725 02:35:27< mcwise> PanKreatin'
20130725 02:35:31< Grognor> I know that he knows; I was obnoxiously deliberately misinterpreting what he said literally in order to punish him for making a really bad joke
20130725 02:35:32< mcwise> *PunKreatin'
20130725 02:35:46< PK_> My jokes are created by internal organs
20130725 02:35:50< PK_> namely my Puncreas.
20130725 02:36:00< mcwise> Make my day, Pun-k
20130725 02:36:03< Grognor> I was literally about to make that same joke
20130725 02:36:08< Grognor> you son of a bitch
20130725 02:36:18< mcwise> literally hitler
20130725 02:36:21< PK_> Mwa ha ha ha
20130725 02:36:33< PK_> Godwins law. Time to go back to work.
20130725 02:36:43< Grognor> wait, stay for 24 more minutes
20130725 02:36:47< PK_> haha.
20130725 02:36:55< PK_> I was still going to be here. just working on my next project.
20130725 02:37:06< mcwise> Grognor, why 24 minues?
20130725 02:37:09< mcwise> what is happening at 3am
20130725 02:37:12< mcwise> (my time)
20130725 02:37:43< Grognor> that is when I leave
20130725 02:38:03< Grognor> this is why I didn't challenge you to another rematch
20130725 02:38:18< PK_> Hm hm hm.
20130725 02:38:26< PK_> I still need to think up some starter monsters.
20130725 02:38:53< mcwise> Grognor, I would have accepted it and delayed to another day again
20130725 02:39:05< PK_> Now he'll never play you again.
20130725 02:39:06< mcwise> 1 match is challenging enough lol
20130725 02:39:31< mcwise> PK_, take a little stone monster
20130725 02:39:33< mcwise> which throws rocks
20130725 02:39:38< mcwise> and smashes with its fist
20130725 02:39:47< PK_> One of the races of playable characters is rock people though
20130725 02:39:51< Grognor> I heard there was a troll named Grogg
20130725 02:39:54< Grognor> that is loved by the fanbase
20130725 02:41:01< PK_> I figure since any monster you have can die, starting you off with a domestic animal monster thing isn't that terrible.
20130725 02:41:15< PK_> Dog, Cat, Bird, Fish, except cooler.
20130725 02:41:23< Grognor> why do you hate default :[
20130725 02:41:35< PK_> Cause I get bored easy.
20130725 02:42:02< Grognor> well, maybe you should fix that
20130725 02:42:11< PK_> It's a character flaw.
20130725 02:42:28< PK_> or perhaps a pro to prevent the stifling of my creativity through stagnation
20130725 02:43:42< Grognor> I will literally fight you
20130725 02:43:55< PK_> I will literally get beat up and cry
20130725 02:45:05< Grognor> where's your manly spirit??
20130725 02:45:29< PK_> Over at the gym
20130725 02:45:38< PK_> lifting round dumb-bells with his mustache
20130725 02:46:00< Grognor> that was a good joke
20130725 02:46:08< Grognor> I appreciate that joke
20130725 02:46:13< Grognor> good on you, mate
20130725 02:52:24< Grognor> *tumbleweed*
20130725 02:53:49< mcwise> *crickets*
20130725 02:56:50< Grognor> you know what
20130725 02:56:56< Grognor> I think the best way to play this game is 2v2
20130725 02:57:33< mcwise> really=
20130725 02:57:37< mcwise> I like 1on1 for the time being
20130725 02:58:30< Grognor> there's hugely more variety in the possible matchups
20130725 02:58:40< Grognor> four factions instead of two, yous ee
20130725 02:59:04< mcwise> yes. too complex for me, at the moment
20130725 02:59:42< Grognor> I suspect undead + rebels is a particularly strong combination, as is knalgans + loyalists, but I need to empirically test this before concluding anything from theoretical considerations
20130725 03:00:29< Grognor> well, it is time to go
20130725 03:01:06< mcwise> good knight
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