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20130805 00:01:46< Octalot> "Perhaps the gold will _give_ our word weight with the council." - grammatically correct, but still hard to read
20130805 00:02:16< Octalot> AI0867: ^
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20130805 00:05:54< Octalot> Ah, I think "give" will look right in context, it fits with the surrounding dialog.
20130805 00:08:44< Octalot> On the next pair of dialog lines, "into" should be "in".
20130805 00:11:42< AI0867> that's what I thought, but fabi maintains the thing
20130805 00:13:40< fabi> Octalot: esr did wrote the prose for LoW. He is better to be asked than me. I am not a native English speaker.
20130805 00:14:44< fabi> s/wrote/write
20130805 00:16:43< irker825> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master 0738a4e59c03 / data/ (41 files in 23 dirs): make reindent minus some wmlindent issues http://git.io/ACEqDg
20130805 00:16:45< irker825> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master 08d1c949f147 / data/ai/micro_ais/scenarios/ (animals.cfg guardians.cfg): wmlindent workarounds for some micro_ai scenarios http://git.io/9IiZeg
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20130805 04:47:10< wesbot> vultraz: The person with the nick Crab_ last spoke 10d 10h ago.  9d 12h ago they left with the message: Quit: Crab_
20130805 04:47:20< vultraz> wesbot: !seen mattsc
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20130805 04:47:27< vultraz> wesbot: !seen neph
20130805 04:47:27< wesbot> vultraz: Sorry, I don't know of neph.
20130805 04:47:33< vultraz> um...whatshisname
20130805 04:47:43< vultraz> shadowm: NOW who am I supposed to talk to
20130805 04:47:47< vultraz> >_>
20130805 04:47:55< shadowm> Stop bothering me with this.
20130805 04:48:12 * vultraz harrumps
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20130805 12:28:39< Crab_> vultraz: hello. you were looking for me earlier today?
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20130805 13:18:06< vultraz> Crab_: well, I was getting an AI error in one of my scenarios about unable to choose attack weapon, but it seems that it was because the unit type in question didn't have any attacks
20130805 13:19:16< Crab_> vultraz: so there is a bug in C++/lua ai routines which make AI try to attack with a unit which has no attacks (emitting  that error message) and you wanted someone to take a look at it?
20130805 13:20:08< vultraz> I wasn't sure what it was at first, but I'm pretty sure no-attack units on ai sides shouldn't derp like that and throw wenoth into an infinite loop of spitting
20130805 13:20:09< vultraz> 20130805 13:43:05 error ai/actions: Error #1009 (attack_result::E_UNABLE_TO_CHOOSE_ATTACKER_WEAPON) in attack by side 2 from location 28,20 to location 28,19 using weapon -1 with aggression 0.4
20130805 13:20:22< bumbadadabum> vultraz: Did you use the messenger escort mai?
20130805 13:20:52< vultraz> as a matter of fact, yes
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20130805 13:21:06< bumbadadabum> vultraz: The escorts can't have no attacks
20130805 13:21:21< bumbadadabum> or they'll give errors
20130805 13:21:30< Crab_> then, the upstream code is wrong to not do the check before trying to attack.
20130805 13:21:47< Crab_> e.g. it would be logged at 'info' level if detected at check time, and at error level if detected at execution time
20130805 13:25:07< Crab_> so a properly configured AI should have none of those AI errors (otherwise there'll be no point in those).
20130805 13:25:26< Crab_> if it's in microAI, mattsc is probably the best person to handle it
20130805 13:32:32< Crab_> vultraz: it is probably best to file a bug (with the how-to-reproduce instructions) if you want the microAI to be changed to check for that. otherwise, if it's something that can be configured in the scenario config (e.g. if you can pick different escorts, etc), just configure it differently.
20130805 13:33:02< vultraz> I just gave the unit type an attack
20130805 13:33:21< bumbadadabum> Crab_: I already told mattsc
20130805 13:33:30< Crab_> bumbadadabum: thanks!
20130805 13:33:32< bumbadadabum> and I recall he said he'd look into it
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20130805 15:57:06< irker193> wesnoth: Pierre T wesnoth-old:asio_umcd 6f78e09252a3 / src/tools/code_generator/sql2cpp/sql_parser.cpp: Convert sql type to cpp type. The struct is now more or less useable. http://git.io/wPPikQ
20130805 15:57:08< irker193> wesnoth: Pierre T wesnoth-old:asio_umcd 731ce144aaf5 / src/ (tools/code_generator/sql2cpp/sql_parser.cpp umcd/protocol/wml/umcd_protocol.hpp): Add license text in the top of the file and preprocessor define. http://git.io/cUs5ww
20130805 15:57:10< irker193> wesnoth: Pierre T wesnoth-old:asio_umcd 6421e46f1f98 / src/tools/code_generator/sql2cpp/sql_parser.cpp: Use a local variable in the define rule. http://git.io/epL7_A
20130805 15:57:12< irker193> wesnoth: Pierre T wesnoth-old:asio_umcd 0b52f41a7fec / src/tools/code_generator/sql2cpp/sql_parser.cpp: Add the header declaration only for the types used in the file. http://git.io/IH2UuA
20130805 15:57:14< irker193> wesnoth: Pierre T wesnoth-old:asio_umcd aea7045922fc / src/tools/code_generator/sql2cpp/sql_parser.cpp: Add namespace decl (namespace pod). http://git.io/Y15COg
20130805 15:57:16< irker193> wesnoth: Pierre T wesnoth-old:asio_umcd 5f4702ce60f1 / src/tools/code_generator/sql2cpp/sql_parser.cpp: Add auto-generated file warning. http://git.io/fAHuXA
20130805 15:57:18< irker193> wesnoth: Pierre T wesnoth-old:asio_umcd b7c57a6bc254 / src/tools/code_generator/sql2cpp/ (sql_constraint.hpp sql_parser.cpp): Parsing of the primary key constraint. http://git.io/zcrI4w
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20130805 17:13:31< mattsc> vultraz, Crab_: yeah, that's a bug in the Messenger MAI that I'm aware of, as bumbadadabum says, but with all my travels it got put on the low-priority-items list and I forgot about it.  Thanks for the reminder.
20130805 17:14:57< mattsc> I don't think I'll have time to deal with it before I'm back from the current trip though.  (And it wouldn't have gotten lost forever, but it would have been even longer…)
20130805 17:15:11< vultraz> hey mattsc 
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20130805 17:15:38< vultraz> mattsc: I have a question, when deleting MAIs, do you need to define the ai_type?
20130805 17:16:08< mattsc> hi vultraz.  Yes, you do.
20130805 17:16:36< vultraz> mattsc: well, when I did, it told me I needed all the other required keys for that mai
20130805 17:17:17< vultraz> ai_type=guardian_unit, and it said guardian_type, id, etc, is missing
20130805 17:17:23< mattsc> vultraz: uh, it shouldn't…  That would be a bug also.  Could you send me the scenario code for that and I'll look into it?
20130805 17:17:40< mattsc> I really just logged in to say the thing about the Messenger MAI, will have to be gone again soon.
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20130805 17:24:19< vultraz> mattsc: I had it in a die event, since it seems the MAIs break once their relative units die http://pastebin.com/VBKZSQsp
20130805 17:24:37< vultraz> complaining about "unit is nil"
20130805 17:25:09< mattsc> vultraz: this is with what Wesnoth version?
20130805 17:25:15< vultraz> 1.11.5
20130805 17:25:29< vultraz> (the release, not +dev)
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20130805 17:27:27< mattsc> vultraz: this (the unit is nil thing) is due to a bug (in Wesnoth, not with the MAI).
20130805 17:27:33< mattsc> It's fixed already here: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/commit/d92d96fd076ad3fbb30ce74afff6d3ac605d782d
20130805 17:27:38< mattsc> but that was post 1.11.5
20130805 17:28:08< vultraz> ok
20130805 17:28:36< vultraz> but that still leaves the thing where action=delete still demands all the requited keys for the ai_type
20130805 17:28:56< mattsc> Still, the removal process should not ask you for all the required keys, only side=, action= and ai_type=; plus id= for MAIs that attach to a unit
20130805 17:29:03< mattsc> right
20130805 17:31:23< mattsc> vultraz: I'll check later if that's handled incorrectly by the Guardian MAIs.  I have to be off again now.
20130805 17:31:43< vultraz> ok
20130805 17:31:57< mattsc> vultraz: FYI, I'll be checking the logs occasionally until Thursday, after that I'll likely be without Internet access for 2 weeks.  :)
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20130805 20:40:50< A_Guy> Weird, leader moves off of keep even when it has gold to recruit
20130805 20:41:02< A_Guy> Leader seems to place a higher priority on village capturing than recruiting
20130805 20:41:10< A_Guy> It moved off the keep even when it had gold to recruit
20130805 20:41:21< A_Guy> Keep wasn't vacant yet, but the units could move
20130805 20:41:32< lipkab> Captain_Wrathbow: Hi.
20130805 20:47:02< A_Guy> Will the AI ever use an allied village to attack from?
20130805 20:47:10< A_Guy> Hmm, this may be the wrong chat.
20130805 20:48:09< lipkab> A_Guy: The AI never captures allied villages AFAIK.
20130805 20:48:19< A_Guy> Uh-huh.
20130805 20:49:14< lipkab> I'm not an AI guru, but I asked that question explicitly some years ago, and the answer was 'no'.
20130805 20:49:36< A_Guy> Uh-huh, thanks.
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20130805 22:26:29< AI0867> wesbot: seen mattsc
20130805 22:26:29< wesbot> AI0867: The person with the nick mattsc last spoke 4h 54m ago.  4h 52m ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: Quit: Traveling for most of August, won't be around much.
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