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20130809 00:00:41< AI0867> In fact, it may have had some unintended consequences. Checking…
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20130809 00:13:19< irker157> wesnoth: Thibault Févry wesnoth-old:master 1dc00f0d9355 / data/tools/wesnoth/wmlparser.py: More range() destruction. http://git.io/pKNfbg
20130809 00:13:21< irker157> wesnoth: Thibault Févry wesnoth-old:master e825989bbeb0 / data/tools/ (8 files in 2 dirs): More range() genocide. http://git.io/IKIzIQ
20130809 00:15:10< AI0867> STOP BREAKING MY REVERT WHILE I HANDMERGE IT!
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20130809 00:20:21< irker157> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master 38b224c1ff7f / / (258 files in 85 dirs): Revert "Revert "Merge branch 'master' of github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth-old"" http://git.io/8I0H6A
20130809 00:20:23< irker157> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master abe67d813653 / data/tools/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth-old http://git.io/n2arTQ
20130809 00:20:57< AI0867> iwontbecreative: for when you read this: DON'T BE AFARID OF MERGE COMMITS
20130809 00:21:08< AI0867> I see people reacting irrationally to them a lot
20130809 00:26:08< AI0867> your checkout hadn't been updated in a while, so the branches had diverged. The merge commit then brings them back together
20130809 00:26:38< AI0867> a lot changed because there had been 152 commits in between
20130809 00:26:51< AI0867> your revert of the merge commit then reverted those 152 commits
20130809 00:28:06< fabi> Ivanovic: Hi, a friend of mine suggested to split the github repository for several reasons. I guess most of them have already been discussed here. I told him that we would like to split it but that it would also cause work to adjust your release procedure/tools. He offered to do everything what is needed to to the split and keep your procedure at the same complexity. I guess he knows what he is doing, his daily work involves such stuff.
20130809 00:28:36< fabi> Ivanovic: What do you think?
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20130809 01:07:34< iwontbecreative> AI0867 : Oh, sorry about that :/ 
20130809 01:07:53< iwontbecreative> Not used to toy with VCS in general
20130809 01:09:27< iwontbecreative> I'm off now, bye
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20130809 04:44:37< vultraz> are there any plans for 1.11.6 soon?
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20130809 04:50:28< vultraz> if there isn't, then I won't wait up on releasing a new version of my campaign, so just checking
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20130809 07:22:10< Ivanovic_> vultraz: no fixed plans yet but i can get a new 1.11.x release out quite fast...
20130809 07:22:23< Ivanovic_> like maybe saturday next week
20130809 07:22:38< vultraz> hm....
20130809 07:22:53< Ivanovic_> fabi: i am very hesitant about splitting the repository unless you talk about splitting out stuff like website, resources and such
20130809 07:23:35< Ivanovic_> but e.g. splitting src, campaigns and po would IMO be a case of "ugh, this will be some overhead!"
20130809 07:23:45< Ivanovic_> not just for the plain release procedure but e.g. when fixing typos
20130809 07:23:48< Ivanovic_> there you need to:
20130809 07:23:53< Ivanovic_> 1) fix the original string
20130809 07:24:01< Ivanovic_> 2) add the fixed string to utils/pofix.py
20130809 07:24:10< Ivanovic_> 3) apply utils/pofix.py on all po files
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20130809 07:26:41< vultraz> Ivanovic_: alright, well, if next week saturday, I'll delay releasing my campaign until then
20130809 07:33:10< Ivanovic_> the main question is if there are already enough new things and if master is stable enough for a release
20130809 07:33:39< vultraz> changelog size looks similar to what 1.11.3 went out with
20130809 07:33:46< shadowm> A release manager would most likely know all that!
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20130809 10:15:23< vultraz> blagh, does anyone know how to convert a lua table to a WML table, inside a lua function
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20130809 12:50:14< thunderstruck> Does anyone know what's the difference between "id" and "side" in SideWML? "id" is undocumented in wiki, but is used in mp::connect.
20130809 12:52:52< zookeeper> at least in SP it defines the id of the leader, probably the same in MP
20130809 12:54:36< thunderstruck> Yes, I think you're right.
20130809 12:54:55< thunderstruck> I should change a variable's name from "id_" to something more sensible, though.
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20130809 13:09:31< irker772> wesnoth: Adrián Chaves Fernández (Gallaecio) wesnoth-old:master 8a475fc24f04 / po/wesnoth-utbs/gl.po: [Galician translation] Finished translating Under the Burning Suns. http://git.io/n4z-ew
20130809 13:09:31< irker772> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master 85aa5e5cbc88 / po/wesnoth-utbs/gl.po: Merge pull request #48 from Gallaecio/gl http://git.io/9wFQpw
20130809 13:12:42< irker772> wesnoth: Adrián Chaves Fernández (Gallaecio) wesnoth-old:1.10 c98c4698fa98 / po/wesnoth-utbs/gl.po: [Galician translation] Finished translating Under the Burning Suns. http://git.io/R4bEhw
20130809 13:12:44< irker772> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:1.10 ee47868df6c6 / po/wesnoth-utbs/gl.po: Merge pull request #49 from Gallaecio/1.10-gl http://git.io/2I80yg
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20130809 14:15:40< trademark_> hello!
20130809 14:15:48< trademark_> I'd like to use this file https://github.com/opencog/opencog/blob/master/lib/FindUnixODBC.cmake
20130809 14:16:26< trademark_> it is said to be under the BSD license, is it ok? They also say "For details see the accompanying COPYING-CMAKE-SCRIPTS file.". But I can't find this file.
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20130809 14:33:24< thunderstruck> Is "--give--" option in mp::connect controller combo just a hint for a user?
20130809 14:33:43< thunderstruck> Or was it intended to make it do something?
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20130809 17:59:43< gfgtdf> i noticed a bug with compiling with MS VS 2010: in the file menu_events.cpp you cannot say "type_and_gender(NULL, unit_race::NUM_GENDERS)", you have to cast NULL to "const unit_type*", that is a VS 2010 specific bug (http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/520043).
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20130809 21:04:14< irker636> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth-old:1.10 4f49c2ad10a6 / / (59 files in 2 dirs): UTBS typo fix pointed out by Gallaecio http://git.io/vqGR6A
20130809 21:06:09< Gallaecio> Ivanovic: so that avoids marking the strings as fuzzy?
20130809 21:06:14< Ivanovic> exactly
20130809 21:06:25< Ivanovic> the script changes the reference string
20130809 21:06:38< Ivanovic> and since the reference string is then identical, it just works
20130809 21:08:46< Gallaecio> Ivanovic: how long before the code freezes for the stable release?
20130809 21:08:54< Ivanovic> code freeze?
20130809 21:09:00< Ivanovic> there are no "real" code freezes
20130809 21:09:04< Gallaecio> Repo freeze.
20130809 21:09:10< Ivanovic> i just release and what is in then is in, what not is not
20130809 21:09:31< Gallaecio> So, when it the limit, 00:00 tonight?
20130809 21:09:38< Ivanovic> i am not 100% sure if i can really release tomorrow (then it would be around 3pm local time in germany (currently it is 9pm))
20130809 21:09:52< Gallaecio> Cool.
20130809 21:09:55< Ivanovic> for stuff to be in this release: the commit has to be done before that
20130809 21:10:16< Ivanovic> it might be though that I wait till sunday with releasing due to being too busy with real life stuff
20130809 21:10:22< Gallaecio> I will try to get some images in today, then.
20130809 21:10:43< Gallaecio> OK, that would work even better for me :)
20130809 21:10:52< Gallaecio> Real Life™ first.
20130809 21:11:27< Ivanovic> AI0867, boucman, Espreon, fabi, loonycyborg, shadowm, Soliton, zookeeper, everyone else who cares: what do you think of 1.11.6 next weekend? (not tomorrow but the week after)
20130809 21:11:38< boucman> ok here
20130809 21:11:44< loonycyborg> Righty then
20130809 21:11:51< fabi> Ivanovic: yeah,ok
20130809 21:12:08< Ivanovic> fabi: have you seen my reply from this morning?
20130809 21:12:28< Ivanovic> i am a little hesitant about the fallout a split can have (besides the obvious parts for the release procedure)
20130809 21:15:10< Ivanovic> fabi: maybe your friend can write a little about his proposal and the possible problems (and benefits) he sees?
20130809 21:15:43< fabi> Ivanovic: Yes. I try to lure him into irc. Maybe this is the easiest way to discuss the issue.
20130809 21:16:02< Ivanovic> you might have noticed that i am not around too often these days in irc
20130809 21:16:31< Ivanovic> (freaking thing called "real life" and strange concept of "working for money" (non wesnoth related work that is!))
20130809 21:17:07< fabi> Yeah, I noticed.
20130809 21:18:02< Ivanovic> okay, the last days in addition my bouncer was broken and i had no physical access to the machine to fix it...
20130809 21:19:47< fabi> Ivanovic: Well, the issue is not urgent. We will find the time to discuss it properly.
20130809 21:19:59< Ivanovic> sure
20130809 21:20:34< Ivanovic> and i would love to hear from esr about the state of the "processing run" of the github repo to fix the outstanding issues...
20130809 21:20:35< Ivanovic> ;)
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