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20130818 00:37:37< shadowm> Does anyone have an opinion on this absolutely preposterous amount of .gitignore files?
20130818 00:37:42< shadowm> 18:34:45 <shadowm> shadowm@nanacore:~/src/wesnoth$ find . -name .gitignore | wc -l
20130818 00:37:45< shadowm> 18:34:45 <shadowm> 170
20130818 00:39:08< un214> shouldn't there be 1?
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20130818 00:46:59< irker062> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master cf8adf901452 / Doxyfile: Bump Doxyfile version number https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/commit/cf8adf901452e72586e498bc4021a3e5d53d49f2
20130818 00:47:33< iwontbecreative> shadowm: Might be easier to have all in just one file indeed
20130818 00:48:04< Gallaecio> I did not even knew you could have more than one…
20130818 00:48:36< shadowm> Yeah, I realized after I found some .pyc files being ignored without being in .gitignore or .git/info/exclude.
20130818 00:51:04< shadowm> Ivanovic: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/index.php?title=ReleasingWesnoth&diff=51767&oldid=51166
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20130818 00:51:09< shadowm> For future releases.
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20130818 00:52:06< irker062> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:1.10 fefa476b8571 / Doxyfile: Bump Doxyfile version number https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/commit/fefa476b857139b5dfdc5f67a20d5bcf65a91d84
20130818 00:53:11< iwontbecreative> Hmmm anyone knows what's the issue with stats.wesnoth.org ?
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20130818 01:04:11< AI0867> shadowm: you already noted a while back that it was the result of the conversion and that they don't do quite the same thing as the svn:ignore properties we had
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20130818 01:12:03< Gallaecio> shadowm: about the version bumps, if CMake is used both to build the game and the documentation, have you considered using CMake to define the version in a centralized way instead of updating the version in more than one place?
20130818 01:14:44< irker062> wesnoth: Adrián Chaves Fernández (Gallaecio) wesnoth-old:1.10 bb762f4015d1 / data/core/images/maps/l10n/gl/wesnoth--overlay.png: [Galician Translation] Added an image that had been left behind because of .giti https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/commit/bb762f4015d1f0a03d30218a728b817872d70224
20130818 01:14:47< irker062> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:1.10 20335188f441 / data/core/images/maps/l10n/gl/wesnoth--overlay.png: Merge pull request #67 from Gallaecio/1.10-gl https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/commit/20335188f4411579c1b62839debbaf8fd766b0e1
20130818 01:20:06< shadowm> AI0867: I did?
20130818 01:21:26< shadowm> Gallaecio: I don't use cmake, but I have the cronjob used to build devdocs.w.o in my console here and it doesn't use cmake.
20130818 01:21:41< shadowm> It just changes to the target dir and runs doxygen without any arguments on it.
20130818 01:21:59< shadowm> Incidentally, "Generated by doxygen 1.7.1 on Mon May 20 2013 20:54:56 for The Battle for Wesnoth". :\
20130818 01:22:14< Gallaecio> OK, nevermind then.
20130818 01:22:25< shadowm> I've got to wonder if anyone actually uses devdocs.w.o.
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20130818 01:32:23< jamit> shadowm: I use it sometimes.
20130818 01:32:45< irker062> wesnoth: Groggy Dice wesnoth-old:master 45fa75c08267 / data/tools/wmllint: change introduction's reference to checking out wmllint from 1.4 branch, to wmll http://git.io/ZrMDmQ
20130818 01:33:18< irker062> wesnoth: Groggy Dice wesnoth-old:master 46e9d8dc1dbe / data/tools/wmllint: wmllint: bugfix missing "stringfreeze" long argument in getopt, and correct help https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/commit/46e9d8dc1dbe9bf2f63f53904f991de7fec19f4c
20130818 01:33:20< irker062> wesnoth: Groggy Dice wesnoth-old:master db560619e8fa / data/tools/wmllint: wmllint: add switch -K --known for suppresing consistency_check() http://git.io/JsjCcg
20130818 01:33:22< irker062> wesnoth: Groggy Dice wesnoth-old:master 93af90d2db67 / data/tools/wmllint: additions to wmllint help http://git.io/K77PTw
20130818 01:33:25< irker062> wesnoth: Groggy Dice wesnoth-old:master 8b3aba7ccb0f / data/tools/wmllint: wmllint: extend scenario check to include first scenario http://git.io/CdlVGA
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20130818 01:35:38< shadowm> groggy: Would you consider yourself to be the new de facto maintainer of wmllint now? :)
20130818 01:36:11< groggy> i dunno. there's some real-life projects i really need to get cracking on
20130818 01:36:29< groggy> this wesnoth stuff has in fact been a dangerous distraction
20130818 01:36:57< groggy> of course, esr himself did "appoint" me wmllint maintainer
20130818 01:38:09< shadowm> I must've missed that.
20130818 01:40:06< shadowm> I was going to point you to a FR that Elvish_Hunter was supposedly going to file about the unit_type.zoc semantics change, but it turns out the FR doesn't actually exist yet. :\
20130818 01:40:31< groggy> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=38317&p=548119#p548119
20130818 01:41:00< AI0867> shadowm: I remember someone complaining about it. I thought it was you
20130818 01:41:02< shadowm> Ah, that. Heh.
20130818 01:41:37< shadowm> AI0867: Potentially? I promust have forgotten ay have forgotten.
20130818 01:42:25< shadowm> It doesn't matter much in any case. Nothing will happen unless we decide whether we prefer the current rather opaque approach or folding it all into a single file.
20130818 01:43:49< shadowm> I for one would rather see it all in a single file like this: http://pastebin.com/sv249Bn6
20130818 01:43:49< groggy> there's also limits to my pthon knowledge - i havent set up a class yet
20130818 01:43:59< AI0867> well, the reconversion might fix the ignore files
20130818 01:44:23< AI0867> and the centralized/distributed thing might be done then too
20130818 01:44:37< groggy> havent figured out the stuff in wmliterator and wmltools either
20130818 01:44:48< shadowm> AI0867: Yeah, you know what my opinion on rewriting history is...
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20130818 01:49:34< irker062> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 6e69dd15fbca / .gitignore: Restrict some .gitignore patterns to the root of the working tree http://git.io/f5GJDQ
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20130818 01:51:41< irker062> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:1.10 473d95378245 / .gitignore: Update .gitignore to match the copy from master http://git.io/4MuvbA
20130818 01:51:44< shadowm> Gallaecio, stikonas: That _should_ help in the future unless I missed something.
20130818 01:53:30< Gallaecio> Great
20130818 01:54:17< shadowm> Okay why is ./website/stats.wesnoth.org/.gitignore anything but a gitignore file.
20130818 01:54:30< shadowm> !file website/stats.wesnoth.org/.gitignore
20130818 01:54:30< shikadibot> shadowm: Web interface URL to file website/stats.wesnoth.org/.gitignore: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/blob/master/website/stats.wesnoth.org/.gitignore
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20130818 01:55:48< shadowm> wesbot: log 35965
20130818 01:55:49< wesbot> cornmander * r35965 : port to turbogears 2 -&gt; much better debugging features and better URL generation control
20130818 01:55:52< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=35965
20130818 01:58:26< shadowm> Yeah, someone did a svn propset or propedit wrong.
20130818 01:59:17< groggy> shadowm: i believe EH considers his commit sufficient: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/commit/3eb9299bd20b3f9295e211cefb932fe9e95bb741
20130818 01:59:43< groggy> it does leave a blank line
20130818 01:59:48< shadowm> *unit_type.ellipse in what I said above, sorry.
20130818 02:00:09< groggy> oh a variable. sorry
20130818 02:00:33< shadowm> No, not a variable, I just use that notation to refer to any part of a WML tree for convenience.
20130818 02:00:53< shadowm> groggy: Okay, now I see why wmllint never warned me about instances of that in my campaign.
20130818 02:00:58< shadowm>     ellipse="misc/ellipse-nozoc"
20130818 02:01:24< shadowm> That substitution only occurs on unquoted instances of the attribute/value pair. :\
20130818 02:03:47< shadowm> So yeah, no, adding that plain text substitution pair to the tuple isn't enough.
20130818 02:04:05< shadowm> I don't think that kind of syntax changes belong there, in general.
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20130818 02:06:48< groggy> well, if EH doesnt get to it in a couple of days, i may look at it
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20130818 02:07:02< irker062> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master f62c9d647d32 / website/stats.wesnoth.org/.gitignore: Remove a .gitignore file that is not a .gitignore file http://git.io/CqLoDg
20130818 02:07:17< shadowm> I probably should PM him since he hasn't answered my log messages for a while.
20130818 02:07:27< groggy> with 1.11.6 out, the pressure is off... at least for me
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20130818 02:09:47< groggy> my own plans include adding an -m --missing= switch for the no side= change
20130818 02:10:44< groggy> 'warn' (default) will warn the author that no side= will now be applied to all sides
20130818 02:11:10< groggy> 'new' will tell lint to ignore no side= key
20130818 02:12:49< groggy> then i'll try to set up an option to prompt the user if he wants side= inserted
20130818 02:13:15< shadowm> I think we can all agree that there are multiple things wrong with this: http://pastebin.com/mG0y0r2U
20130818 02:13:41 * shadowm ponders possible methods to trace down the sources of each pattern.
20130818 02:14:26< shadowm> Without the sort -u step the result is 632 lines long, too.
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20130818 02:51:33< shadowm> So I used this: http://pastebin.com/aK5Mxy13
20130818 02:51:46< shadowm> And got this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21371130/wesnoth-gitignore-sources
20130818 02:53:02< shadowm> A sorted version: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21371130/wesnoth-gitignore-sources-sorted
20130818 02:53:32< shadowm> There is plenty of room for... uh... optimization... there.
20130818 02:55:28< shadowm> The first pattern is just 0x0A (LF), which is ignored by Git, but still.
20130818 02:57:16< shadowm> It's a trailing blank line.
20130818 02:58:00< shadowm> I guess a good first step for cleanup would be identifying the .gitignore files that are identical to each other.
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20130818 04:59:58< irker062> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 21191cd52084 / doc/doxygen/footer.html: Doxygen: update footer links http://git.io/g-Cjhg
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20130818 05:22:53< shadowm> AI0867: Weren't we going to discard libana?
20130818 05:24:14< shadowm> Also, I just ran doxygen on the source tree on my desktop (nanacore).
20130818 05:24:15< shadowm> 23:18:28 <shadowm> nanacore does in 6:54 minutes what wesnoth.org does in 1 hour 57 minutes.
20130818 05:40:57< irker062> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 42bdb96e1c15 / src/map.hpp: Doxygen comment fixes http://git.io/YAqRmQ
20130818 05:41:00< irker062> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 1678bce91e38 / src/floating_point_emulation.hpp: Doxygen comment fixes http://git.io/A6Nwgw
20130818 05:41:03< irker062> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 2a0034a6bb93 / src/unit_types.cpp: Doxygen comment fixes https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/commit/2a0034a6bb932fedd12c2440e81b7382cc539d7c
20130818 05:41:06< irker062> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master d8afccde1c37 / src/unit.cpp: Doxygen comment fixes http://git.io/U80lpg
20130818 05:41:09< irker062> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 9e13bf380c1a / src/actions/undo.cpp: Doxygen comment fixes http://git.io/dp5KsQ
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20130818 05:41:15< irker062> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master a8ff10955886 / src/editor/toolkit/editor_toolkit.cpp: Doxygen comment fixes http://git.io/sQdOZw
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20130818 06:59:02< irker062> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:1.10 266f7180aa49 / players_changelog: Fix players_changelog formatting https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/commit/266f7180aa4952046dc9348c03272109b07abfb4
20130818 06:59:09< irker062> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 2e93f56778ae / players_changelog: Fix players_changelog formatting http://git.io/JOXNEA
20130818 07:05:04< shadowm> _Coffee: Does ~ have a special meaning in the new animation syntax that could conflict with image path functions?
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20130818 07:09:28< _8680_> shadowm: From what I remember, “foo[1~3].png” expands to “foo1.png,foo2.png,foo3.png”.
20130818 07:09:44< shadowm> Yes, but is that only parsed within the brackets?
20130818 07:10:14< _Coffee> shadowm: ~ is like before for offsets in files
20130818 07:10:23< _Coffee> before the syntax changes
20130818 07:10:38< _8680_> shadowm: I don’t remember. I believe it wasn’t in my test implementation, but I don’t know about the implementation that went into the game. Shall I check?
20130818 07:11:14< shadowm> What I really want to know is why {DEFENSE_ANIM "units/elves-wood/lady.png~CS(-255,-255,-255)" "units/elves-wood/lady.png~CS(-255,-255,-255)" {SOUND_LIST:ELF_FEMALE_HIT} } results in lady.png appearing untinted during the defense animation.
20130818 07:11:14< _Coffee> _8680_: that's right
20130818 07:11:24< _Coffee> I put all the syntax changes into the wiki page
20130818 07:11:51< shadowm> (This is a really dumbed down test case I just concocted and the issue that led me to investigate this is actually more practical and involves ~PAL() instead.)
20130818 07:12:06< _Coffee> I can check
20130818 07:12:36< shadowm> _Coffee: In that case, here is the test WML: http://pastebin.com/aPqbE4Cm
20130818 07:12:49< shadowm> The trigger is the defense animation when the unit is attacked, of course.
20130818 07:14:12< shadowm> In Wesnoth 1.10 the black silhouette resulting from ~CS(-255,-255,-255) is merely tinted red when hit, not reverted to the unmodified base image.
20130818 07:15:09< shadowm> What I see is that the macro is substituted with an animation that has a frame with image="units/elves-wood/lady.png~CS(-255,-255,-255)":1,"units/elves-wood/lady.png~CS(-255,-255,-255)":250,"units/elves-wood/lady.png~CS(-255,-255,-255)":1
20130818 07:15:37< _Coffee> yeah, that is what it should be
20130818 07:15:49< shadowm> Is that supposed to cause problems?
20130818 07:15:50< _Coffee> and only if there are square brackets should it care about the ~ inside
20130818 07:16:30< shadowm> Right.
20130818 07:17:28< shadowm> I wonder if the quotes could be causing problems? Although I'd expect "image not found" messages in stderr in that case, and there are none such.
20130818 07:18:15< shadowm> Since the macro arguments include parentheses, the quotes are really necessary to prevent the preprocessor from claiming that there are unmatched parentheses and failing.
20130818 07:18:43< shadowm> But this results in the unusual substitution above, which I'm unsure the animations engine is equipped to handle.
20130818 07:18:47< _Coffee> trying expanded macro
20130818 07:20:01< _Coffee> nope
20130818 07:20:07< _Coffee> still shows undarkened
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20130818 07:20:50< shadowm> So something is somehow dropping the image path functions when parsing that.
20130818 07:21:48< shadowm> Well, when the unit is hit, anyway. It seems to work fine when the attack misses.
20130818 07:21:51< _Coffee> even when expanding to multiple frames it glitches
20130818 07:23:03< _Coffee> and also when dropping the timing
20130818 07:23:58< shadowm> So this appears to have last worked correctly on 1.11.1. Hm.
20130818 07:24:14< _Coffee> yeah, it is a bug I may have introduced
20130818 07:24:15< shadowm> I guess I could run a bisect.
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20130818 07:34:55< _Coffee> shadowm: the problem I believe is in progressive_image function in unit_frame.cpp
20130818 07:35:07< _Coffee> it gets the correct image name into this
20130818 07:35:23 * shadowm is bisecting.
20130818 07:39:30< shadowm> I missed the opportunity to speed this up using -O0 instead of -O3. :\
20130818 07:40:17< _Coffee> shadowm: I think I see the problem
20130818 07:41:04< _Coffee> image::locator elsewhere (other than in progressive_image) has 2 arguments and splits them into image and mod
20130818 07:41:59< _Coffee> I think you'll find the problem occurred in the commit that introduced the progressive_image function
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20130818 07:46:12< _Coffee> shadowm: testing with image_mod function instead
20130818 07:47:50< shadowm> Hit a commit that won't build. Oops.
20130818 07:49:33< shadowm> Almost done, I think.
20130818 07:50:26< shadowm> _Coffee: http://pastebin.com/rKbJ4620
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20130818 07:51:09< _Coffee> shadowm: I thought so :P
20130818 07:51:09< shadowm> It's not a particularly nice commit to look at. The diffstat is full of WML noise.
20130818 07:51:29< _Coffee> that is when the progressive_image function was added
20130818 08:11:55< _Coffee> shadowm: fixed (here anyway)
20130818 08:13:30< _Coffee> can commit to git once I resync with main code on my computer
20130818 08:15:57< shadowm> Okay, cool.
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20130818 13:29:55< irker761> wesnoth: Adrián Chaves Fernández (Gallaecio) wesnoth-old:master 79424012911c / po/ (9 files in 9 dirs): Updated the Galician translation http://git.io/5RYyxA
20130818 13:29:55< irker761> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master b955bb69aff5 / po/ (9 files in 9 dirs): Merge pull request #69 from Gallaecio/gl http://git.io/pF7-SA
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20130818 13:40:26< _Coffee> hmm
20130818 13:40:52< _Coffee> I made a change earlier and ran "git commit -a -m ..." and itdoesn't appear to have gone through
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20130818 13:48:09< _Coffee> do I need to use git push?
20130818 13:49:51< AI0867> shadowm: probably, nobody's made a decision on that yet though
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20130818 13:57:21< _Coffee> is there a page that lists wesnoth/git-hub specific commands on the wiki?
20130818 13:58:00< _Coffee> seems like that might be a good idea if other people are like me and require googling to get stuff done with it
20130818 13:58:07< _Coffee> I'd be happy to contribute
20130818 13:58:36< _Coffee> I notice that there are heaps of "forks" in strange places when looking at the repository listings, so I can't be alone
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20130818 14:01:09< irker761> wesnoth: David Mikos wesnoth-old:master 51a85d3d098b / src/unit_animation.cpp: Fix image modifications on hit and death animation WML not showing. Original bug http://git.io/TcjoyQ
20130818 14:01:11< irker761> wesnoth: David Mikos wesnoth-old:master 04d3bf3dd5a0 / po/ (9 files in 9 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth-old http://git.io/BBo1JQ
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20130818 14:07:27< shadowm> _Coffee: What do you mean forks in strange places?
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20130818 14:07:57< _Coffee> shadowm: well, when creating a branch the way github recommends I had to "fork" the repository
20130818 14:08:04< shadowm> AI0867: Okay, and who would have to make a decision anyway?
20130818 14:08:17< _Coffee> and in doing so I noticed that other people have done this only maybe half the time
20130818 14:08:21< shadowm> _Coffee: Mainline developers don't need to fork.
20130818 14:08:38< _Coffee> there looks to be no simple process to follow for merging github "forks"
20130818 14:08:48< shadowm> There actually is.
20130818 14:09:28< _Coffee> still might help if there was a wiki IMO for those that want to fork and post online for comments from other developers
20130818 14:09:43< shadowm> https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests
20130818 14:09:52< _Coffee> it is not obvious the changing of the repository url and such (to me anyways)
20130818 14:09:57< shadowm> But mainline developers do not need to fork or create pull requests.
20130818 14:10:43< _Coffee> how do you then show to other developers what you are doing?
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20130818 14:11:48< shadowm> You may create a fork on GitHub and work with that, or publish your own downstream repository through some private channel if your resources allow.
20130818 14:12:10< _Coffee> ok
20130818 14:12:26< _Coffee> but for maybe one-time contributers or future devs?
20130818 14:12:35< _Coffee> would it be useful to have a wiki page for that?
20130818 14:12:48< shadowm> Nothing of this is trivial and I personally think keeping things decidedly non-trivial help keep the amount of garbage/useless contributions relatively low/nil.
20130818 14:13:19< shadowm> As for one-time contributors or future developers the process is the usual, you may either fork and create pull requests or use patches.wesnoth.org.
20130818 14:14:07< shadowm> One-time contributors generally won't want to clone the > 1.6 GiB repo, anyway.
20130818 14:14:19< _Coffee> you're probably right
20130818 14:15:13< shadowm> So yeah, did you know that we are supposed to require Git-conforming commit messages?
20130818 14:15:48< shadowm> Maximum of 71 chars for the short introductory subject line, optionally blank line follows and then the full description of the commit, etc. 
20130818 14:16:08< shadowm> I don't really care, but it does make it easier to look at things in git log --format=oneline.
20130818 14:16:40< _Coffee> shadowm: I've used git in the past with those kind of rules and it makes sense
20130818 14:16:42< shadowm> It also avoids GitHub or git format-patch mangling the first line.
20130818 14:17:13< _Coffee> just wondering if (for forgetful people ike me) you have them written down somewhere to make it easy
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20130818 14:18:21< shadowm> I vaguely remember someone writing down the commit messages thing _somewhere_, but my memory's hazy atm.
20130818 14:18:44< shadowm> Ah yes, this: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/GoodCommitCommentingPractice
20130818 14:19:47< _Coffee> bookmarked, thanks
20130818 14:20:16< shadowm> Feel free to not follow point 3 onwards
20130818 14:20:45< shadowm> Also, you did not just have this conversation with me.
20130818 14:21:28< shadowm> Now, I heard something about a bug being fixed?
20130818 14:21:38< _Coffee> yeah, it is fixed here
20130818 14:21:45< _Coffee> the "dark elf" should work fine now
20130818 14:21:55< shadowm> It saddens me that I don't understand the diff at all.
20130818 14:22:45< _Coffee> assuming I did the right thing with git, there should be a simple change to the unit_animation file
20130818 14:22:49< AI0867> shadowm: anyone who feels comfortable throwing out something google paid 5 kUSD for?
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20130818 14:22:56< shadowm> I need coffee.
20130818 14:23:03< shadowm> Ah right, I can't drink coffee.
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20130818 14:23:19< shadowm> I was going to complain about the bug not being fixed and then I realized I did not actually rebuild Wesnoth after pulling.
20130818 14:23:26< _Coffee> in changing to the progressive_image (or comma separated list) the filename was used instead of the whole string with the image mod applied also
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20130818 14:23:35< _Coffee> this is fixed in the above commit
20130818 14:24:22< shadowm> I didn't know there was any code using image locators directly.
20130818 14:24:27< shadowm> s/any//
20130818 14:24:44< _Coffee> well, it just specified a string before, and that is why it worked
20130818 14:25:11< _Coffee> here it uses an array of image_locators, which had to be used insteado of string for existing code integration purposes
20130818 14:25:42< shadowm> Fix confirmed, thanks a bunch. :)
20130818 14:25:43< _Coffee> in the end a small patch, and you should see it working now
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20130818 14:26:09< mordante> servus
20130818 14:26:48< shadowm> AI0867: I thought someone proposed at some point excising it from our source tree and publishing it separately for whoever might be interested.
20130818 14:27:20< shadowm> In practice the code is unused, which is nearly the same thing sans the excising.
20130818 14:28:04< shadowm> loonycyborg even worked on Boost.asio integration (sadly only for the add-ons client atm) after we decided ana was fundamentally broken.
20130818 14:28:59< shadowm> Although I'm not sure who and when made any attempt to contact the author about the issues, if ever; but I do believe the student went Internet-MIA after the period was over.
20130818 14:30:28< mordante> stikonas, has your patch been already applied?
20130818 14:30:36< mordante> already been*
20130818 14:31:55< AI0867> shadowm: I think the author already intended to do that? It may already be on google code
20130818 14:31:57< shadowm> _Coffee: Could we have a changelog entry, though? The changelog needs more love....
20130818 14:32:06< shadowm> (Alternatively, the changelog needs to be put out of its misery.)
20130818 14:32:17< stikonas> mordante: not yet, I'll do another map and resubmit a large commit.  I now know why you were not able to fetch
20130818 14:32:23< stikonas> it was a bug in git-daemon :(
20130818 14:32:32< stikonas> I was running it as a non-root user
20130818 14:32:48< shadowm> AI0867: Shurg.
20130818 14:32:49< stikonas> but it was still trying and failing to access /root/.config/git
20130818 14:33:09< mordante> stikonas, ok, and indeed fetching now works
20130818 14:33:28< AI0867> I can't find it though
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20130818 14:34:00< shadowm> Hey I just realized something.
20130818 14:34:09< shadowm> I use an IMAP client with a built-in search functionality.
20130818 14:34:29< shadowm> Ta-da: https://mail.gna.org/public/wesnoth-dev/2011-10/msg00027.html
20130818 14:34:41< stikonas> mordante: I've removed that commit from my repository, actually it should be empty now
20130818 14:34:58< stikonas> so don't pull from there yet :)
20130818 14:35:06< mordante> stikonas, it is, but I no longer get error messages when fetching
20130818 14:35:07< shadowm> AI0867: SO yeah, it is in Google Code.
20130818 14:35:47< stikonas> I had seen some strange message with 1.4 branch, so I decided to reclone the repository from github,,,
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20130818 14:36:28< Ivanovic> i got a problem with the pandora build of 1.11.6
20130818 14:36:31< shadowm> "Once feature freeze phase before 1.10 passes I plan to continue working on new network subsystem and I'd prefer to use asio directly." Said loonycyborg before being eaten by a rabid Windows-based system.
20130818 14:37:02< Ivanovic> it does not start, the cache creation is done, but at the point 'loading start menu' i get a crash with the following log output:
20130818 14:37:04< mordante> Ivanovic, can you pastebin the error message
20130818 14:37:04< Ivanovic> *** glibc detected *** ./bin/wesnoth: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x01a69d50 ***
20130818 14:37:37< mordante> let's see whether I can revive my pandora build
20130818 14:38:06< Ivanovic> building itself worked lovely, just running it does not after it has all the cache creation and such done
20130818 14:38:07< loonycyborg> I'm setting up a cross-compile environment on baldras atm :P
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20130818 14:40:10< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: what i am using for the pandora is the following installer script: http://git.openpandora.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=pandora-misc.git;a=blob;f=sdk_installer/openpandora_toolchain.sh;h=ec984b886e99bd3eede1cfda71d2edb595b6fd81;hb=HEAD
20130818 14:40:24< mordante> :q
20130818 14:40:34< mordante> wrong window
20130818 14:41:18< loonycyborg> mordante: ^^ :P
20130818 14:41:39< mordante> loonycyborg, but you're going to debug it?
20130818 14:41:57< loonycyborg> I don't know anything about pandora
20130818 14:42:15< loonycyborg> I was talking about cross-compile environment for minw32
20130818 14:43:14< loonycyborg> Just now realized that pandora involves cross-compiling too
20130818 14:43:24< loonycyborg> I was responding to shadowm
20130818 14:43:59< mordante> ah ok
20130818 14:47:49< shadowm> libintl is gettext, right?
20130818 14:48:02< loonycyborg> YEs
20130818 14:49:09< loonycyborg> Anyway, I remember people were talking about static initialization fiasco here recently
20130818 14:49:23< loonycyborg> Maybe this is what causes pandora failures?
20130818 14:50:38< mordante> well my compiler is running, but will take some time haven't compiled for the pandora in ages
20130818 14:58:40< irker761> wesnoth: David Mikos wesnoth-old:master 911f0073942f / changelog: Changelog entry for 51a85d3d098b699a9ec0553ce6160701c4c8fcbb http://git.io/OWlVDQ
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20130818 16:07:44< mordante> fabi, did you commit the yamg code?
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20130818 16:35:59< mordante> Ivanovic, I can reproduce a crash, but there's no love between me and the debugger, it ignores my breakpoints :-(
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20130818 16:45:01< Ivanovic> :(
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20130818 16:49:36< mordante> well trying other ways to drive gdb into submission ;-)
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20130818 17:07:07< _8680_> Is ~/src/wesnoth-old a reasonable default place to assume that people on Unix descendant systems with wesnoth-old clones will put their clones?
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20130818 17:07:35< mordante> _8680_, why?
20130818 17:08:50< shadowm> git clone foobar.git without an additional final argument will clone the repository into ./foobar, yes.
20130818 17:09:26< _8680_> mordante: For a script I have that uses wesnoth_addon_manager, which it currently defaults to looking for in ~/src/wesnoth-old/data/tools if no other location is given.
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20130818 17:10:00< shadowm> Why don't you look for wam in PATH instead?
20130818 17:10:21< shadowm> Just... assume wam is in PATH, die otherwise.
20130818 17:10:35< mordante> _8680_, it's a horrible default, like any default location for this kind of thing
20130818 17:10:39< _8680_> I didn’t think most people would put Wesnoth tools in PATH. Is that a common practice?
20130818 17:11:12< shadowm> I think it's a reasonable possibility. Alternatively allow your mysterious script to take a path to wam?
20130818 17:11:42< shadowm> Or make it reasonably easy to alter the script to point it to wam.
20130818 17:12:04< _8680_> mordante: I wrote the script for me specifically, and that’s where I have it; this is the last thing that makes it still more for me specifically.
20130818 17:12:51< _8680_> shadowm: I think I will add an easily-changed variable with the default path at the start of the script.
20130818 17:13:38< shadowm> Dropping that kind of innocuous stuff in PATH generally makes things easier for me: http://pastebin.com/a9m6HE5s
20130818 17:14:02< _8680_> shadowm: The “mysterious script” is just a wrapper around wesnoth_addon_manager that performs some additional checks. I don’t know if I’ll actually release it, but I did want to make it more general.
20130818 17:14:21< shadowm> What kind of checks?
20130818 17:15:04 * _8680_ checks.
20130818 17:15:19< shadowm> (The logical conclusion to my approach might be a bit messy, though: http://pastebin.com/sdHU5Uzc )
20130818 17:15:42< _8680_> Currently only that the version number has been bumped, since I forgot to do that a few times.
20130818 17:15:50< mordante> _8680_, using defaults that make no sense or for sense one developer specifically are a bad idea. 
20130818 17:16:15< _8680_> mordante: Which is why I’m asking this.
20130818 17:16:54< mordante> so better have the user to specify the location and use a small script or alias for your local case
20130818 17:17:24< mordante> eg alias foo='bar ~/src/wesnoth-old/data/tools'
20130818 17:17:29< shadowm> Wait, how do you know whether the version number has been bumped?
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20130818 17:17:57< shadowm> Oh right, you probably look into wam -l or something, never mind.
20130818 17:18:10< _8680_> shadowm: Yes.
20130818 17:18:13< shadowm> Yes, I will continue to call it wam.
20130818 17:18:28< shadowm> I don't like long application names.
20130818 17:19:10< shadowm> Especially not names that include underscores, since that's an extra keypress for me compared to hyphens.
20130818 17:20:54< _8680_> The main reason why I wrote the script was because I didn’t want to bother remembering what wesnoth_addon_manager’s parameters do, or looking them up every time I used it.
20130818 17:21:04< fabi> mordante: yes I did.
20130818 17:21:27< _8680_> (Not that, in general, I have a problem with learning how to use software properly.)
20130818 17:21:33< fabi> mordante: But it was modified later on by a pull request.
20130818 17:22:16< fabi> mordante: And lipk helped to make it cleaner.
20130818 17:22:18< shadowm> People have been misusing the Doxygen @ref command, I see.
20130818 17:22:26< shadowm> /home/shadowm/src/wesnoth/src/buffered_istream.hpp:25: warning: unable to resolve reference to `std::istream' for \ref command
20130818 17:22:29< shadowm> Et cetera.
20130818 17:22:34< mordante> fabi, did you write it or somebody else
20130818 17:22:42< fabi> mordante: pyrophorus
20130818 17:23:08< mordante> fabi, why not clean it before committing, the code is more C as C++
20130818 17:23:10< shadowm> Okay, no, it's actually just src/buffered_istream.hpp that's included all over the place, plus some .cpp file.
20130818 17:24:20< fabi> mordante: I did clean it, and lipk did so as well. But I agree that it is still very low level. Especially that he always uses pointers and new.
20130818 17:24:30< shadowm> Oh, that's mordante's file.
20130818 17:24:52< shadowm> Oh well, that didn't stop me from fixing a comment in a GUI2 code file earlier.
20130818 17:25:08< fabi> shadowm: It was you mentioning that you could also make use of a proper ~ROTATE() image path function?
20130818 17:25:29< mordante> fabi, so why was it then committed if the code is not clean?
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20130818 17:25:43< shadowm> fabi: I only said that regarding 90° transforms.
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20130818 17:26:06< shadowm> Anything else will inevitably look like crap with pixel art regardless of the interpolation method used.
20130818 17:27:25< fabi> shadowm: Oh, okay. This is already implemented. I just lifted some simplified implementation of the "rotsprite" algorithm which is designed to rotate pixel art properly. The results are fine. 
20130818 17:29:23< shadowm> Nah.
20130818 17:29:33< fabi> nah?
20130818 17:29:42 * shadowm nods.
20130818 17:30:21< fabi> The results of rotsprite are still looking like crap in your eyes?
20130818 17:31:06< shadowm> I don't know, I haven't seen them, and as with most things pixel-art, the results vary a lot from case to case.
20130818 17:31:52< shadowm> I personally don't need non-90° transforms at this time in Wesnoth. And I'll probably never need them either.
20130818 17:31:57< fabi> http://info.sonicretro.org/RotSprite
20130818 17:32:25< shadowm> Yeah, that's not really 'fine' in my view.
20130818 17:33:18< shadowm> It's very close, but every imperfection tends to count with pixel art.
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20130818 17:33:44< shadowm> That is, assuming your quality standards are high enough.
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20130818 17:34:14< shadowm> Some people are just content with seeing colorful blobs on the screen.
20130818 17:35:58< fabi> I have these top down sprites I use in my total conversion. They original program is using rotation to produce all 6 directions since ages. But their result is far worse than what the rotsprite does.
20130818 17:36:31< shadowm> Yeah, you see, I actually draw things.
20130818 17:36:59< shadowm> I would not even _try_ to have a program produce pixel art transforms for me.
20130818 17:37:55< fabi> Well, maybe I should mention that rotsprite does not destroy team coloring.
20130818 17:37:59< shadowm> Anyway, you don't need to convince me. I have zero use for any such thing in Wesnoth atm, and I won't be creating any more original content running on the Wesnoth engine.
20130818 17:38:20< fabi> I do not want to convince you.
20130818 17:38:46< mordante> fabi, so why was it then committed if the code is not clean?
20130818 17:39:22< fabi> mordante: I have tested it and got no bugs.
20130818 17:40:07< fabi> mordante: Do we have a convention that calls pointer with new "unclean"?
20130818 17:40:13< mordante> fabi, that was not my question
20130818 17:40:35< fabi> mordante: Well, I have problem to understand your definition of "clean".
20130818 17:40:58< mordante> fabi, before you already said the code was not clean
20130818 17:41:09< fabi> I said that it is very low level.
20130818 17:41:26< mordante> "fabi> mordante: And lipk helped to make it cleaner."
20130818 17:41:32< fabi> You mentioned the word "clean".
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20130818 17:42:37< fabi> mordante: It was unclean first, because it used variables not named to our conventions. I fixed that. Lipk replaced some more variable initialization that was done in the block with the c++ method of doing so.
20130818 17:42:39< mordante> fabi, we don't have a convention against pointers, but we do have coding standard 4.4
20130818 17:42:49< mordante> Write exception-safe code 
20130818 17:42:59< mordante> this code is _not_ exception-safe
20130818 17:44:24< fabi> Yes, I thought so at first as well.
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20130818 17:45:05< fabi> I mean, I thought there might be problems with the memory management.
20130818 17:45:26< fabi> You assume that an exception might leave undeleted data structures?
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20130818 17:47:01< irker761> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 0ee75fb0a9ba / src/buffered_istream.hpp: Doxygen comment fixes http://git.io/euhheQ
20130818 17:47:04< irker761> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master a16edac8c7fe / src/serialization/preprocessor.cpp: Doxygen comment fixes http://git.io/BbAvvA
20130818 17:50:30< mordante> fabi, for example, but there are also other memory related issue by using raw pointers
20130818 17:53:08< fabi> mordante: Would you clean up a little patch of the code for me? I could see how it is done and do the rest. I am not sure how to get rid of pointers produced by new or malloc properly. If I understand my compiler lesions well enough, new uses the heap while other variables are part of the function frame. 
20130818 17:54:01< fabi> Structures on the heap life forever if not manually freed, right?
20130818 17:54:44< shadowm> fabi: Mind if I /query you?
20130818 17:55:13< fabi> shadowm: No, you do not need to ask, just go ahead. 
20130818 17:59:19< mordante> fabi, why use a pointer to an array instead of std::vector
20130818 17:59:49< mordante> fabi, the code also ignores the rule of three
20130818 17:59:55< mordante> afk for a short while
20130818 18:03:15< shadowm> I'm done with the Doxygen format fixes for the foreseeable future. The rest ( http://pastebin.com/UDEa6ZdH ) is either Doxygen not understanding C++ (probably about 96% of the warnings) or people documenting things inconsistently.
20130818 18:04:44< shadowm> (There's at least one case of Doxygen not recognizing operator* as a valid method name.)
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20130818 18:06:14< shadowm> (And regardless, I am sure my audience of 1 person will be pleased with just devdocs.wesnoth.org not being stuck in the past anymore, which was completely unrelated to any of this, caused by an obsolete path in a service script.)
20130818 18:06:42< shadowm> (i.e. everything else is just icing on the cake.)
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20130818 19:00:32< stikonas> mordante: can you try fetching that commit from me now?
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20130818 19:03:49< irker761> wesnoth: loonycyborg wesnoth-old:master 634b0039f80e / SConstruct src/SConscript: Fixed scons configure checks for ming32 cross-compile http://git.io/feDkww
20130818 19:03:51< irker761> wesnoth: loonycyborg wesnoth-old:master e097cdc5c575 / src/windows_tray_notification.hpp: Fixed #includes of windows headers for cross-compile http://git.io/TbHHDg
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20130818 19:41:10< mordante> stikonas, it worked properly now ^
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20130818 20:27:29< irker761> wesnoth: JaMiT wesnoth-old:master 9abafef232fb / src/game_events/handlers.cpp: Simplify some code with utilss::join(). http://git.io/4pR7mQ
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