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20130827 00:09:12< irker212> wesnoth: Espreon wesnoth-old:1.10 2a81f1140caf / l10n-track: Updated l10n-track. http://git.io/Nz-WLQ
20130827 00:23:09< shadowm> mattsc: No, I had only asked wesbot in query when was the last time you had been in the channel.
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20130827 00:27:37< mattsc> shadowm: okay
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20130827 04:37:03< shadowm> wesbot: seen groggy
20130827 04:37:03< wesbot> shadowm: Person, who 9d 2h ago used nick groggy, last spoke 9d 2h ago.  5d 22h ago as bdfe they left with the message: Client Quit
20130827 04:39:31< irker212> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master c22a631d7693 / data/themes/editor.cfg: Add wmllint spelling exception for 'playlist' in editor theme WML http://git.io/zSBa7g
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20130827 10:30:27< thunderstruck> What this is supposed to mean http://git.io/p56IKA?
20130827 10:30:30< thunderstruck> Soliton: ^
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20130827 10:58:21< AI0867> thunderstruck: looks pretty clear to me
20130827 10:58:48< AI0867> if the function returns "ai", return that, otherwise, "human"
20130827 11:00:32< thunderstruck> AI0867: I know the ternary operator. I am just wondering what is exactly a client type in Wesnoth's context.
20130827 11:03:31< thunderstruck> In particular, I wonder if client_type=ai makes any sense, 'cause client_type lacks a setter.
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20130827 11:20:26< Soliton> thunderstruck: where is that used?
20130827 11:22:38< thunderstruck> Soliton: It's used to "tweak" controllers for MP: assign a "controller" attribute for a host side's cfg to "client_type".
20130827 11:22:49< thunderstruck> So, host's controller is always "human".
20130827 11:23:17< AI0867> you have a point
20130827 11:23:22 * AI0867 tries something
20130827 11:23:56< thunderstruck> If host controller != human, the host's side will be not controlable.
20130827 11:24:02< thunderstruck> Not sure why, though.
20130827 11:24:47< Soliton> well, then it's not that host's side.
20130827 11:25:11< Soliton> sides controlled by a host are either ai or human.
20130827 11:25:29< Soliton> other sides should be network and controlled by some other host/client.
20130827 11:26:36< Soliton> i don't know what that has to do with any preferences though.
20130827 11:26:49< Soliton> that shouldn't be configurable.
20130827 11:27:11< thunderstruck> In my opinion, there's a contradiction here: "sides controlled by a host are either ai" - if side is AI, it's not controlable by a player.
20130827 11:27:47< Soliton> that's no contradiction.
20130827 11:28:11< thunderstruck> controller by a host != controller by ai?
20130827 11:28:14< Soliton> your client controls the side whether the user does it or it's done automatically for an AI.
20130827 11:28:44< Soliton> another client can't tell the difference anyway.
20130827 11:29:12< thunderstruck> Ahh.. I see.
20130827 11:31:53< thunderstruck> Soliton: But I assume it would be safe to remove that from preferences and always use "human"?
20130827 11:32:26< AI0867> looks that way
20130827 11:32:33< AI0867> (that's what I've just done locally)
20130827 11:32:48< Soliton> probably. i'd check out the commits that introduced this though.
20130827 11:33:58< thunderstruck> Is there a way to check that if the code has been moved around?
20130827 11:34:43< Soliton> git blame ...; git show ...; repeat until interesting commit found.
20130827 11:35:20< AI0867> git pickaxe also helps
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20130827 11:36:58< trademark_> Is it possible to retreive the addon license via the gui? I can't find any buttons to do so
20130827 11:37:17< Soliton> i doubt it.
20130827 11:37:26< Soliton> they all have the same license anyway.
20130827 11:38:11< AI0867> it's from before the preferences partitioning
20130827 11:39:17< trademark_> well, not in case the server is not the Wesnoth one's, but it seems that Wesnoth is the only addon server around. BTW, I just understood that the license request was useful when uploading an addon
20130827 11:40:32< Soliton> thunderstruck: very nice would be if you can add the info you just got somewhere in the source documentation where you did/would have looked for it to understand how side controllers work.
20130827 11:40:38< AI0867> okay, it's commit e77e738b0ccaa8a6626705
20130827 11:40:45< AI0867> shikadibot: log e77e738b0ccaa8a6626705
20130827 11:40:46< shikadibot> AI0867: Revision e77e738b0cca (Dave White) on Thu Nov 13 22:00:05 2003:
20130827 11:40:50< shikadibot> AI0867: made it so if client_type=ai is in preferences file, ...
20130827 11:40:54< shikadibot> AI0867:  
20130827 11:40:55< shikadibot> AI0867: ...the player will join networked games as an AI
20130827 11:40:57< shikadibot> AI0867: Web interface URL: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/commit/e77e738b0cca
20130827 11:41:09< AI0867> it's a feature that may have never been used
20130827 11:41:48< thunderstruck> AI0867: Thanks. I you found it way faster than me :)
20130827 11:42:07< thunderstruck> You found*
20130827 11:43:19< AI0867> thunderstruck: (git log|gitk) -S"search string"
20130827 11:43:29< AI0867> that's the git pickaxe
20130827 11:43:54< thunderstruck> AI0867: I've already figured that out, but it took a while to run that command on my machine.
20130827 11:44:04< AI0867> it doesn't always pick up on everything, but it'll get you a commit to work from rather quickly
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20130827 11:45:26< irker227> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master 0001b355e0b0 / src/ (game_preferences.cpp game_preferences.hpp play_controller.cpp playcampaign.cpp): Remove unused join-as-AI feature. Spotted by thunderstruck http://git.io/v84IYQ
20130827 11:46:59< thunderstruck> AI0867: Thanks. Although you just have probably did an extra work for me - I'll have to move some of that code in my branch.
20130827 11:48:07< thunderstruck> Soliton: You want to me add some comments in the code which would explain that?
20130827 11:50:46< Soliton> thunderstruck: yes. anytime something was not particularly obvious from the code either the code should be made more obvious or it needs comments.
20130827 11:51:23< thunderstruck> Soliton: Well, while separating mp::connect into gui and engine, I refactored most of the controllers set up, so now it is quite obvious what is happening.
20130827 11:51:26< Soliton> thunderstruck: and the best candidate to notice such things is someone new to the codebase.
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20130827 11:51:40< thunderstruck> Although, some more polishing might be better.
20130827 11:51:48< Soliton> thunderstruck: alright, even better.
20130827 11:52:03< thunderstruck> But if you're talking about controllers in some other place - I don't know that stuff.
20130827 11:52:15< thunderstruck> I was interested only how to set up them, not how to use them later.
20130827 11:52:47< thunderstruck> Although, some polishing might make it more obvious*
20130827 11:53:11< Soliton> it was a general comment, i didn't have any specific code in mind.
20130827 11:57:11< thunderstruck> Soliton: By the way, you have mentioned a backwards compatibility when I've changed a server's protocol a bit. Is that something I would need to care about before pushing my changes to master?
20130827 11:57:21< thunderstruck> I mean, is it a high priority thing.
20130827 11:57:51< Soliton> no.
20130827 11:58:18< Soliton> you should note incompatible changes in the RELEASE_NOTES and changelogs though.
20130827 11:59:02< thunderstruck> Sure.
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20130827 16:10:08< vultraz> hey mattsc 
20130827 16:10:59< mattsc> hi there, vultraz 
20130827 16:16:48< mattsc> vultraz: btw, taking the avoid aspect into account in the Messenger MAI is not as simple as I had hoped.
20130827 16:17:09< vultraz> really? crab_ made it sound simple :/
20130827 16:17:35< mattsc> I should go and see what Crab_ wrote ...
20130827 16:17:51< mattsc> The problem is that wesnoth.find_path does not take avoided areas into account.
20130827 16:18:26< mattsc> So I'll have to write my own cost function for that, which does normal path finding plus a stiff penalty for avoided areas.
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20130827 16:19:01< mattsc> Shouldn't be too hard, but it's a bit more work than simply excluding the avoided hexes from a set of locations.
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20130827 16:19:04< irker430> wesnoth: Adrián Chaves Fernández (Gallaecio) wesnoth-old:master 0f5fa532a663 / data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/images/ (maps/l10n/gl/did--overlay.png misc/l10n/gl/descent-into-darkness--overlay.png): Updated the Galician translation of the “Descent Into Darkness” map. http://git.io/f6BMpg
20130827 16:19:06< irker430> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master 8bb8ea647b5b / data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/images/ (maps/l10n/gl/did--overlay.png misc/l10n/gl/descent-into-darkness--overlay.png): Merge branch 'gl' of https://github.com/Gallaecio/wesnoth-old http://git.io/a5uTCA
20130827 16:19:08< irker430> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master 3b9ba35c3054 / data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/images/maps/l10n/gl/did--overlay.png: Optipng run on gl did--overlay.png http://git.io/Hjq1Rg
20130827 16:19:10< irker430> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master 20970a3c3839 / l10n-track: l10n-track update http://git.io/NUz5-Q
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20130827 16:23:02< vultraz> 20130822 11:55:28< Crab_> vultraz: either messenger AI does something wrong (in that case it should be fixed inside mai) or the function it uses for pathfinding doesn't respect avoid (and this should be fixed at that function level)
20130827 16:23:37< mattsc> vultraz: yes, I am just reading up on it.  The critical comment is this one though:
20130827 16:23:39< mattsc> 20130822 11:57:23< Crab_> vultraz: if that function is not available or it's not working properly, it has to be fixed/added.
20130827 16:24:18< mattsc> As far as I know, there is no path_finding function available in Lua that takes the [avoid] aspect into account by default.
20130827 16:24:36< mattsc> However, it is easy enough to write (in Lua), so I'll just add it to the ai_helper functions.
20130827 16:25:45< mattsc> I guess that's the option Crab_ writes about at 12:07:46  :)
20130827 16:27:32< mattsc> And concerning your comment at 12:24:54: yeah, I would guess that all the MAIs are buggy to some extent at this point since they have not been tested a whole lot yet.
20130827 16:27:38< Soliton> reimplementing pathfinding in lua that likely will work subtly different to the c++ version sounds like a bad idea.
20130827 16:27:44< mattsc> So, thanks for using and testing.  :)
20130827 16:30:08< mattsc> Soliton: it's not really reimplementing it (if I understand things correctly), it's using it with a different cost function (which is specifically an option provided in the Lua interface).  However, if somebody wants to add an "avoid_hexes" option to wesnoth.find_path, I'm all for that.
20130827 16:30:52< mattsc> The question is, where does that stop?  Custom cost functions will always be required for some option or another.  They exist on both the C++ and Lua level.
20130827 16:31:10< mattsc> s/option/use case
20130827 16:32:09< irker430> wesnoth: trewe wesnoth-old:master 14c7ee0458a4 / data/ (6 files in 6 dirs): new maps for portuguese image localization http://git.io/noraxQ
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20130827 16:32:13< Soliton> is there a c++ function that does pathfinding and respects [avoid]?
20130827 16:32:15< irker430> wesnoth: trewe wesnoth-old:master e098d5c1e270 / changelog players_changelog: updated changelog http://git.io/VoL1TQ
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20130827 16:32:19< irker430> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master e6c346cd28db / data/core/images/help/l10n/pt/ (hpxp.png tooltip.png): Optipng run on pt image l10n http://git.io/L0yVgA
20130827 16:32:21< irker430> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master fb78aa072b05 / l10n-track: l10n-track update http://git.io/fFzNpw
20130827 16:32:54< mattsc> flix: you have worked with path finding functions on the C++ side.  Do you know the answer to Soliton's question?
20130827 16:33:03< Soliton> presumably there must be since the default ai does that?
20130827 16:33:21< mattsc> Soliton: yeah, that makes sense, but I don't know.
20130827 16:33:30< Soliton> my point is that you should not duplicate existing functionality.
20130827 16:34:09< flix> mattsc: hi, I don't know. Let me take a look.
20130827 16:34:12< Soliton> mattsc: make a feature request then and find out. :-)
20130827 16:34:17< mattsc> Soliton: yes, absolutely.
20130827 16:34:39< irker430> wesnoth: Adrián Chaves Fernández (Gallaecio) wesnoth-old:master 71c75e43c19c / data/ai/micro_ais/scenarios/hang_out.cfg: Removed double spaces from a couple of internationalized strings. http://git.io/EcmRRQ
20130827 16:34:41< irker430> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master d028a228aa74 / data/ai/micro_ais/scenarios/hang_out.cfg: Merge pull request #68 from Gallaecio/removeDoubleSpaces http://git.io/6SwFzw
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20130827 16:51:17< vultraz> mattsc: any insight on the other issue, BTW?
20130827 16:52:18< mattsc> vultraz: no, haven't had time yet during which I am awake enough -- 9 hours jetlag are too much to handle for old people like me.  ;)
20130827 16:53:16< vultraz> heh :P
20130827 16:54:22< vultraz> just as long as it eventually does get fixed, since it kinda breaks my scenario 3
20130827 16:55:53< mattsc> vultraz: it will get fixed, at the latest sometime in 2015  :P
20130827 16:57:22< mattsc> vultraz: to clarify: is the issue that units that could move out of the way for the messenger don't do so, or that the MAI moves units into the way of the messenger?
20130827 16:57:37< vultraz> both
20130827 16:57:51< vultraz> they just sit there in a big circle
20130827 16:57:59< mattsc> The fact that it does not move to the red-circled hex is a separate issue which might come from the fact that the messenger does not have to hit each waypoint exactly.
20130827 16:58:12< vultraz> with the occasional outside unit moving to the head of the group
20130827 16:58:17< vultraz> then after a few turns
20130827 16:58:32< vultraz> they'll suddenly all up and go to the next waypoint correctly
20130827 16:58:37< vultraz> rinse and repeat
20130827 16:58:58< mattsc> could you PM me a replay of when that's happening?
20130827 16:59:25< vultraz> lemme make one
20130827 16:59:42< mattsc> Thanks.  No rush, I'll likely not get to it today anyway.
20130827 17:02:34< flix> mattsc, Soliton: It seems that calculate_moves() in src/ai/contexts.xpp removes the avoided hexes "manually". Nothing there in src/pathfind/
20130827 17:03:32< mattsc> flix: yeah, I'm just checking things out myself as well...
20130827 17:04:23< mattsc> flix: do you know whether an AI unit would move across a row of avoided hexes in order to get to a target on the other side?
20130827 17:04:47< mattsc> As in, does it only not stop in those hexes, or not move through them either?
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20130827 17:06:52< flix> mattsc: Looking at the code I guess a unit can move through such a row. But to make sure you should test it.
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20130827 17:07:47< mattsc> flix: yeah, I will.
20130827 17:08:32< vultraz> oh how nice, NOW it suddenly decides to WORK. >_>
20130827 17:08:56 * vultraz glares at screen
20130827 17:12:04< vultraz> seriously. wtf
20130827 17:14:14< vultraz> mattsc: it seems wesnoth is not cooperating and has decided to suddenly NOT display the problem
20130827 17:14:18< vultraz> gahh
20130827 17:16:18< vultraz> I have no idea what is going on here
20130827 17:16:23< mattsc> vultraz: hee hee.  :P  It might be that it just happens in very specific situations (combinations of units and terrain).  So that makes it just so much more important for you to send me a replay, if you see it again.
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20130827 17:21:13< mattsc> flix, Soliton: so, yeah, looking at the code it appears that the default AI goes through all the hexes a unit can reach and removes hexes manually that are avoided (among other things).  Does that agree with your interpretation, flix?
20130827 17:21:43< flix> mattsc: yes.
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20130827 17:22:12< mattsc> Soliton: that means that the capability needed for the Messenger AI does not exist in the C++ code.
20130827 17:22:28< mattsc> functionality?
20130827 17:23:23< Soliton> maybe the functionality can be extracted in some helper function to make it easier to allow lua access?
20130827 17:24:41< mattsc> Soliton: I think it means that we need to write a custom cost function that does not exist yet, which can be done in either C++ or Lua.   (again, this is assuming I interpret how things work correctly)
20130827 17:25:22< mattsc> The difference is that the AI only does this for hexes the unit can reach on the current move, while the waypoint for the messenger might be several moves away.
20130827 17:27:17< mattsc> I could write this in Lua (I've done something similar once before) to demonstrate the method, then somebody else could implement it in C++
20130827 17:27:54< mattsc> … unless we have a volunteer who wants to do it in C++ in the first place.  :)
20130827 17:36:21< Soliton> mattsc: well, the functionality is already there in C++ in one form or another. the question is just how best to expose it to lua.
20130827 17:37:03< Soliton> mattsc: i'm not sure why you're saying that it doesn't exist yet but maybe i'm missing something.
20130827 17:38:27< mattsc> Soliton: yes, I agree that the general functionality is there.  What I mean is that (I think) the custom cost function needed for this is not written yet.  Do I see that wrong?
20130827 17:39:42< Soliton> mattsc: right, but it's already determined how it must work based on current code, no?
20130827 17:40:21< Soliton> maybe not for the multi-move thing you mentioned.
20130827 17:40:52< Soliton> that sounds like something just waiting to be needed by the (c++) ai though.
20130827 17:41:53< mattsc> Soliton: yes, I think so, even for the multi-move case.  I believe that's all that's needed is to add getNoPathValue() as penalty to all hexes on which a unit would stop.
20130827 17:42:13< mattsc> And then an option needs to be added to use this cost function or not.
20130827 17:43:11< Soliton> sounds you're well equipped to make a nice feature request for this. :-)
20130827 17:43:13< mattsc> … but I am not the right person to do this on the C++ side.  I could maybe figure it out, but it would take me 100 times longer than somebody who actually knows C++ well.
20130827 17:43:26< mattsc> Soliton: sure  :)
20130827 17:44:02< Soliton> at least i don't see the use of "prototyping" it in lua if it's all there in existing code already.
20130827 17:44:12< mattsc> I'm just trying to fish for somebody here who'll be volunteering to do so.  Anybody?  EasyCoding task here.  :D
20130827 17:44:39< Soliton> and then there is the danger of it never being done and implementations diverging etc.
20130827 17:45:35< mattsc> Soliton: agreed.  The advantage of doing it in Lua is that I can have it done by tomorrow, while it might never get done if I put it out as a FR.
20130827 17:46:04< mattsc> But that's really the only advantage of that approach.
20130827 17:47:01< Soliton> mattsc: well, it sounded like Crab would do it if need be since he basically proposed it as well.
20130827 17:48:34< mattsc> Soliton: that would be nice indeed.  I'll try to bug him about it next time I see him, now that I'm back.
20130827 17:49:29< mattsc> Soliton, flix: thanks
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20130827 19:44:39< mordante> servus
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20130827 19:51:20< lipkab> hi mordante 
20130827 19:53:26< mordante> hi lipkab 
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20130827 20:28:09< Ivanovic> AI0867, mordante, elias_US, fabi, everyone else who might travel to fosdem: i plan to apply for a fosdem games devroom
20130827 20:28:16< Ivanovic> do you support this move?
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20130827 20:30:59< AI0867> Ivanovic: I doubt I'll give a talk myself, but yes
20130827 20:30:59< mordante> Ivanovic, I think it is a good idea, think it had its merits the last two times
20130827 20:31:29< mordante> also not sure whether I'll give a talk
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20130827 20:32:03< gfgtdf> hi
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20130827 20:33:50< mordante> hi gfgtdf 
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20130827 20:51:17< gfgtdf> hi mordante, if i want a to use handwriting font on my campaign what would be better, delivering the campaign with the font or rendering it on my pc and then delivering the campaign with image files. I mean epsecialy about tralslatability, i think text is easier to translate but if the font cannot display othr laguage symbols it'd could cause event more problems, so i dont know what is better.
20130827 20:53:07< gfgtdf>  mordante: i fogot the "?"
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20130827 20:56:21< mordante> gfgtdf, I've no idea how easy/hard it is to create your own font, but it seems the most portable
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20130827 20:56:36< mordante> gfgtdf, also getting it to work with images seems quite hard
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20130827 21:01:39< gfgtdf> mordante: hm ye, i think i wouldnt make i own font it use a free font from the inet, does the font need to be under gpl or is another open licence ok too?
20130827 21:03:47< gfgtdf>    "my own font, instead i'd use a free" intsead of "i own font it use a free"*
20130827 21:04:10< AI0867> if you want to distribute it with your add-on, it should be GPLv2+
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20130827 21:21:19< gfgtdf> hm ok
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20130827 21:46:06< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth-old#493 (asio_umcd - 9aae2b3 : Pierre T): The build has errored.
20130827 21:46:06< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/builds/10682281
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20130827 21:53:21< lipkab> The GitHub desktop client is cool.
20130827 21:53:58< lipkab> It almost makes up for lack of git integration in VS.
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20130827 22:04:24< mordante> I'm off night
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20130827 22:10:55< gfgtdf> nigh
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20130827 22:34:15< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth-old#493 (asio_umcd - 9aae2b3 : Pierre T): The build is still failing.
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20130827 22:43:08< irker640> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth-old:1.10 770a4c080918 / / (27 files in 26 dirs): updated Vietnamese translation http://git.io/nhPXXA
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20130827 23:26:39< fabi> Ivanovic: Yes, I want to hold a speech myself.
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