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20130830 16:23:02< vultraz> hey mattsc 
20130830 16:27:07< mattsc> hi vultraz
20130830 16:27:10< mattsc> The wolves MAI is really not meant for situations as in that scenario of yours.
20130830 16:27:43< mattsc> First, it tries to assemble the wolves into a pack, so spreading them around all around the player like that is opposite to what the AI is trying to do.
20130830 16:28:24< mattsc> Second, it was written for packs of 3, and later expanded to work with arbitrary number of wolves, but 6 is kind of pushing it.
20130830 16:28:44< mattsc> And third, it works best with sparse prey (although that's probably minor)
20130830 16:29:06< mattsc> So it's really not the AI you want for this situation.
20130830 16:30:10< vultraz> ah
20130830 16:31:01< mattsc> I debug-assembled the wolves into a pack and killed off a lot of the units on the map, and then they pretty much did what I'd expect them to do.
20130830 16:31:49< mattsc> although, strangely, they didn't attack, but that must come from one of the other AI settings you're using (maybe the caution=10 setting?), since attacks are left to the RCA AI.
20130830 16:34:20< vultraz> sorry for wasting your time, then
20130830 16:39:20< mattsc> No worries, it's always good to have real scenario tests of the MAIs (even when it's about figuring out what doesn't work).  And it probably means that I need to make the description on the wiki clearer.
20130830 16:40:10< mattsc> Those wolves are pretty scary.  I'd hate to meet one of them in the woods at night.  :)
20130830 16:43:31< vultraz> :)
20130830 16:43:38< vultraz> zerovirus drew them
20130830 17:08:20< vultraz> mattsc: BTW. is there anything I should know about the swarm mai?
20130830 17:09:11< mattsc> vultraz: umm ...
20130830 17:09:46< mattsc> It only has a couple very simple rules.  Just try it out in the test scenario, that should tell you all you need to know (and is what the test scenarios are for)
20130830 17:10:11< vultraz> any specific numbers?
20130830 17:10:51< mattsc> numbers?
20130830 17:11:33< vultraz> like the wolves, you said it's optimized for 3
20130830 17:12:20< mattsc> oh, number of units ...  No, this one should work pretty much for any number of units
20130830 17:12:47< vultraz> alright
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20130830 18:00:39< mattsc> vultraz: I added a brief section about required keys for deleting an MAI:  http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Micro_AIs#2._Activating_and_configuring_.28or_deleting.29_a_Micro_AI
20130830 18:00:45< mattsc> (scroll down about a page or so)
20130830 18:01:01< mattsc> feel free to add to that if you'd like it to be more detailed.
20130830 18:01:27< mattsc> I also added a couple sentence to the Wolves MAI description to say that it works best for small packs etc.
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