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[~FrozenFyr@1.22.169.53] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 15:46:12-!- FrozenFyre_ is now known as FrozenFyre 20130809 15:46:36< FrozenFyre> Hi everyone 20130809 15:47:03< FrozenFyre> May I ask, why I get a 'mandatory wml child missing error' while trying to watch a replay on wesnoth 1.10.6? 20130809 15:47:15< FrozenFyre> And can someone tell me how I can solve it? thank you 20130809 15:50:13-!- Captain_Wrathbow [~wrathbow@ppp-70-226-161-103.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 15:51:29< thunderstruck> FrozenFyre: is the replay you're watching comes from 1.10.6? 20130809 15:56:51-!- Kostic [~marko@85.202.113.113] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 15:57:34< FrozenFyre> I checked the gna bugs page, and it says it is fixed, but doesn't mention how 20130809 16:07:52-!- diffycat [~diffycat@85.113.55.206] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 16:10:52-!- ngoclong19 [~Thunderbi@118.68.39.131] has quit [Quit: ngoclong19] 20130809 16:18:58-!- Jetrel_new 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lipkab. Do you think CW will show today? 20130809 20:02:02-!- Captain_Wrathbow [~wrathbow@ppp-70-226-161-103.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 20:02:20< lipkab> JackStorm448: Here he is. 20130809 20:02:26< lipkab> Captain_Wrathbow: Hi. 20130809 20:02:33< Captain_Wrathbow> Yes. Here I am! 20130809 20:03:11-!- H-Hour_ [~H-Hour@cpc7-sgyl35-2-0-cust428.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 20:03:16< Captain_Wrathbow> GambCiv? 20130809 20:03:40< JackStorm448> Finaly 20130809 20:03:51< lipkab> I'll rehost. 20130809 20:03:55< Captain_Wrathbow> Ok 20130809 20:04:07< JackStorm448> I'll be right there 20130809 20:04:57< JackStorm448> On second thought I might be a second 20130809 20:05:37-!- H-Hour [~H-Hour@cpc7-sgyl35-2-0-cust428.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20130809 20:10:01-!- Dunno [~Adium@dsb178.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 20:15:42-!- Polarina [~polarina@wesnoth/translator/Polarina] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20130809 20:16:29-!- Polarina [~polarina@115-109-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 20:16:51-!- Polarina is now known as Guest93358 20130809 20:29:38-!- Grognor [~Kraken@ip-64-134-223-162.public.wayport.net] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 20:36:56-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 20:37:05-!- JackStorm448 [~androirc@bas22-toronto12-2925003984.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130809 20:38:30< Grognor> monday is game day 20130809 20:44:05-!- Kostic [~marko@85.202.113.113] has quit [Quit: Kostic] 20130809 20:44:09< bumbadadabum> but it's friday 20130809 20:44:36< Dunno> DUM-DUM-DUUUUM 20130809 20:44:46< Grognor> friday is also game day 20130809 20:44:53< Grognor> who's ready for game 20130809 20:44:58< bumbadadabum> Every day is game day! 20130809 20:45:07< bumbadadabum> [/unemployed] 20130809 20:47:44< Grognor> the man speaks the truth 20130809 20:47:50< Grognor> [I am also unemployed] 20130809 20:51:09-!- Dunno [~Adium@dsb178.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20130809 20:52:59-!- bumbadadabum [~bumba@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20130809 20:54:35-!- Falcon` [~Falcon@falcon.kolosowscy.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20130809 21:05:36< Grognor> just "played" a guy who recruited nothing but elvish scouts and left on turn 3 20130809 21:08:20-!- Falcon` [~Falcon@falcon.kolosowscy.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 21:17:59< blarumyrran> Maybe they were carrying out a secret mission, and completed it 20130809 21:18:13< blarumyrran> He had no reason to linger around afterwards 20130809 21:18:55< Grognor> why does every competent player fetishize choosing random 20130809 21:19:08< blarumyrran> fog advantage 20130809 21:19:29< Grognor> my god 20130809 21:19:42< Grognor> I know it confers an advantage 20130809 21:19:45< Grognor> jesuschrist 20130809 21:20:01< Grognor> what I'm confused about is why the equilibrium is universally both players choosing random, instead of neither player choosing random 20130809 21:20:18< Grognor> it's analogous to cooperating instead of defecting in the prisoner's dilemma 20130809 21:20:30< Grognor> which will actually happen if both players see each other's moves before they are made 20130809 21:20:44< Grognor> doing so is good for three reasons: 20130809 21:20:51< Grognor> 1) you get to play the faction you most feel like playing 20130809 21:21:02< Grognor> 2) you get to optimize your recruitment at the beginning 20130809 21:21:20< Grognor> 3) your leader will be of your choosing, rather than chosen according to the caprice of the wind 20130809 21:21:27< Grognor> 4) no mirror matches 20130809 21:21:39< Grognor> I didn't miscount; I came up with an extra reason after saying there were 3 reasons 20130809 21:22:07< Grognor> can you imagine a 2v2 where all four players land drakes 20130809 21:22:10< Grognor> what a boring game that would be 20130809 21:23:53< blarumyrran> there's a no-mirror-matches era out there; i think the reason it isn't in core wesnoth is that mirror matches aren't generally thought to be THAT unfun 20130809 21:24:15< blarumyrran> ever since undead mirror matches were fixed, anyway 20130809 21:24:41-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20130809 21:25:27< blarumyrran> s/era/scenario? I dunno 20130809 21:31:52< Captain_Wrathbow> Would have to be an era or MP modification, right? A scenario would lock you into a specific map, which would be no fun. 20130809 21:32:04< zookeeper> era 20130809 21:32:48< blarumyrran> Captain_Wrathbow: there's a 2-level multiplayer campaign where the second map is a random mp 1v1 scenario 20130809 21:33:19< blarumyrran> and the first one ends immediately 20130809 21:34:17< mcwise> blarumyrran, what was the undead vs undead issue? 20130809 21:34:43< blarumyrran> mcwise: adepts only had a cold attack 20130809 21:35:05< blarumyrran> so undead had no attacks that would really hurt undead 20130809 21:35:14< mcwise> oh 20130809 21:35:15< mcwise> ok 20130809 21:35:37< zookeeper> the archer had impact melee. that was about the best :P 20130809 21:36:31-!- fabi_ [~fabi@88-134-60-101-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 21:36:31-!- fabi_ [~fabi@88-134-60-101-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Changing host] 20130809 21:36:31-!- fabi_ [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 21:40:21-!- fabi [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20130809 21:43:26-!- salluc69 [~lucky@109.52.115.247] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 21:52:49< Grognor> zombies also have impact, and more than you might think 20130809 21:54:09-!- diffycat [~diffycat@85.113.55.206] has quit [Quit: diffycat] 20130809 21:54:11< Grognor> like 6 base right? and then at night that's 8, and then vs. skulltowns it's like 10 or something right? wait that can't be right, no way is a zombie getting 10-2 ever 20130809 22:07:55-!- Kostic [~marko@net30-1-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 22:27:48-!- Guest93358 is now known as Polarina 20130809 22:27:54-!- Polarina [~polarina@115-109-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is] has quit [Changing host] 20130809 22:27:54-!- Polarina [~polarina@wesnoth/translator/Polarina] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 22:31:31-!- MadMerlin3 is now known as MadMerlin 20130809 22:32:38-!- mcwise [~mcwise@p54A3B245.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20130809 22:42:21-!- JackStorm448 [~androirc@bas22-toronto12-2925003984.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 22:45:00-!- jetrel_laptop_ [~jetrel_la@67-6-117-45.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 22:46:31-!- jetrel_laptop [~jetrel_la@67-6-114-87.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20130809 22:46:32-!- jetrel_laptop_ is now known as jetrel_laptop 20130809 22:51:11-!- Falcon` is now known as falcon` 20130809 22:58:07-!- salluc69 [~lucky@109.52.115.247] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via] 20130809 23:03:15-!- Gambit [~derek@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 23:06:07-!- falcon` [~Falcon@falcon.kolosowscy.pl] has quit [Quit: I'll be back!] 20130809 23:07:36-!- Kostic [~marko@net30-1-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs] has quit [Quit: Kostic] 20130809 23:07:52-!- Captain_Wrathbow [~wrathbow@ppp-70-226-161-103.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has quit [Quit: Soli Deo Gloria] 20130809 23:08:28-!- JackStorm448 [~androirc@bas22-toronto12-2925003984.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130809 23:16:21-!- R2D2CDPO [57a14679@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.161.70.121] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 23:18:42-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130809 23:19:42-!- falcon` [~Falcon@falcon.kolosowscy.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 23:20:42-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 23:32:54-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@apn-5-63-212-215.vodafone.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20130809 23:38:18-!- R2D2CDPO [57a14679@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.161.70.121] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20130809 23:38:53-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 23:38:59-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@apn-5-63-212-215.vodafone.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 23:42:33-!- jetrel_laptop [~jetrel_la@67-6-117-45.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: jetrel_laptop] 20130809 23:44:48-!- mcwise [~mcwise@p54A3B245.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20130809 23:50:28-!- Haldrik [~haldrik@unaffiliated/haldrik] has quit [Quit: Haldrik] 20130809 23:51:33-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20130809 23:51:41-!- mcwise [~mcwise@p54A3B245.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20130809 23:56:13-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] --- Log closed Sat Aug 10 00:00:49 2013