--- Log opened Thu Sep 12 00:00:39 2013 20130912 00:01:20-!- justinzane [~justinzan@tiny.justinzane.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130912 00:08:29< gfgtdf> fabi: do oyu plan to iplement it in lua/wml or make the c++ atttack_unit function and the dialog acessible in wml/lua ? 20130912 00:09:33< fabi> gfgtdf: I have not yet decided. I guess the most work would be a proper c++ solution, but also give the best results. 20130912 00:11:29< gfgtdf> fabi: what do you mean by "best" ? i thought in the end all results are the same 20130912 00:11:47-!- happygrue [~happygrue@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130912 00:11:48< fabi> No, I doubt that. 20130912 00:12:54< fabi> The biggest issue is not how to make ranged attacks work but how to alter the interface to make the user experience smooth without destroying any of the current usability. 20130912 00:15:51< gfgtdf> fabi: wich part exaclty could be destroyed? 20130912 00:16:55< fabi> Well, destroying user interface features is not hard to archive. You change something in mouse_events.cpp and everything goes crazy. 20130912 00:18:42< fabi> I like the player to see which units can be attacked simply by selecting the unit in question. If you also want to display the units that can be reached after a possible movement the problem has reached a certain level of complexity already. 20130912 00:21:15-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130912 00:24:19< gfgtdf> fabi: you mean specialy for you ranges weps ? 20130912 00:24:23< gfgtdf> ranged* 20130912 00:24:38< gfgtdf> especialy* 20130912 00:24:47< fabi> yes 20130912 00:26:57< gfgtdf> fabi: is you plan still to make a [filter] on weapons wich default to a is_adjacent wich specifies wich units can be attacked ? 20130912 00:27:49< gfgtdf> your* 20130912 00:31:21< fabi> gfgtdf: Even that point is not yet decided. Having the option to filter for units to attack is already possible with weapon specials. Thus just a max_range=4 (hex fields) and min_range=2 (hex fields) could be enough. 20130912 00:32:13< fabi> And might perform much better than filtering the range. 20130912 00:35:42< gfgtdf> hm yes 20130912 00:43:23-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20130912 00:45:21-!- Turuk [Turuk@cpe-65-29-217-233.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20130912 00:46:31-!- tomreyn [~tomreyn@megaglest/team/tomreyn] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130912 00:58:03-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@69.62.144.56] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130912 01:04:39-!- Yukiria [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130912 01:04:52-!- Yukiria [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has quit [Client Quit] 20130912 01:05:20-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130912 01:12:12-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has quit [Quit: brb] 20130912 01:13:48-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130912 01:15:24-!- vultraz 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20130912 17:18:51< bumbadadabum> AI0867: I edited it with the Mint editor 20130912 17:19:03< bumbadadabum> dunno which one that is 20130912 17:19:16< AI0867> ah, looks like it was jetrel 20130912 17:20:08< bumbadadabum> Ok. 20130912 17:20:17< AI0867> Jetrel_new: I don't know what editor you used to add sleepwalker's animations, but it converted the file to DOS format and added the pointless utf-8 byte order mark 20130912 17:20:27< bumbadadabum> The wmlindent things were mine though 20130912 17:21:39< AI0867> or so it seems... 20130912 17:21:43< AI0867> meh 20130912 17:22:32< bumbadadabum> AI0867: What's the difference between DOS and unix format actually? 20130912 17:22:35< bumbadadabum> it looks the same 20130912 17:22:51< bumbadadabum> and worked fine in game as well 20130912 17:25:00-!- rei4dan [~reinis@87.110.9.112] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20130912 17:25:44-!- rei4dan [~reinis@87.110.9.112] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130912 17:25:59< irker774> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master e2fc0028eba0 / data/core/units/dwarves/ (Dragonguard.cfg Thunderer.cfg): dos2unix and BOM removal http://git.io/Cw6AEg 20130912 17:26:01< irker774> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master a3cf7cf3c2fe / data/core/units/dwarves/Thunderer.cfg: Fix file encoding http://git.io/yxRyCA 20130912 17:26:03< irker774> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master bc2fd63e94c6 / data/core/units/dwarves/ (Dragonguard.cfg Thunderer.cfg): wmlindent http://git.io/5ipP5A 20130912 17:26:12< AI0867> bumbadadabum: DOS ends lines with CR (carriage return) and LF (line feed) 20130912 17:26:16< AI0867> unix only uses LF 20130912 17:26:20< bumbadadabum> ok 20130912 17:26:39< bumbadadabum> google said it messes up in the terminal 20130912 17:26:45< AI0867> so stupid editors in windows will see unix files as one long line with odd marks in between 20130912 17:27:03< AI0867> stupid editors under unix will see stray ^M at the end of every line 20130912 17:27:04< bumbadadabum> AI0867: I had that with Notepad and my EoC .cfg files 20130912 17:27:15< AI0867> yes, notepad can't handle it 20130912 17:27:31< AI0867> the BOM is more annoying 20130912 17:27:43< AI0867> it's three bytes at the start of the file to tell you about the byte order 20130912 17:27:50< AI0867> except that utf-8 doesn't have a byte order 20130912 17:28:17< bumbadadabum> ok 20130912 17:28:35< AI0867> I while back I tought wesnoth to recognize it and then ignore it and complain about it, but before that, it would cause the add-on to fail to parse 20130912 17:28:48< AI0867> s/tought/taught 20130912 17:28:52< bumbadadabum> ok 20130912 17:29:19< AI0867> and the case of the thunderer, it had the ‘’ encoded in some ISO encoding, rather than utf-8 20130912 17:29:36< AI0867> probably also caused by a misbehaving editor 20130912 17:54:38-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@f054162075.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130912 17:54:43-!- justinzane is now known as absent_justinzan 20130912 17:55:10< thunderstruck> Soliton: Do you know why "notify_next_scenario" got deprecated? 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