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20130918 02:46:27< irker293> wesnoth: fendrin wesnoth-old:master 80ca05e44814 / src/ (image_modifications.cpp image_modifications.hpp sdl_utils.cpp sdl_utils.hpp): Simplified Rotsprite algorithm. http://git.io/s-r76A
20130918 02:46:27< irker293> wesnoth: fendrin wesnoth-old:master 85f84dd3839a / src/ (image_modifications.cpp image_modifications.hpp sdl_utils.cpp sdl_utils.hpp): Documentation and cleanups to the RotSprite methods. http://git.io/KJhJcw
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20130918 04:06:00< irker293> wesnoth: fendrin wesnoth-old:master 3c8342048360 / src/unit.cpp: Filtering for variation_type=. http://git.io/TQGBDg
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20130918 04:40:28< irker293> wesnoth: fendrin wesnoth-old:master dbad16589111 / src/ (unit.cpp unit_types.cpp unit_types.hpp): Support for variation= in [unit_type]. http://git.io/VEN0Yg
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20130918 05:08:25< shadowm> fendrin: What's the purpose and rationale of the last two commits?
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20130918 05:12:21< shadowm> They seem to be changing or adding WML things, but this is neither specified in the commit descriptions (which are missing altogether) nor in changelog entries (also missing).
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20130918 06:00:43< fabi> shadowm: They are very simple. Filtering for variation_type= allows for filtering the variation type. The rationale is that the wml coder might want to filter not only the unit type but also for the variation_type of the unit.
20130918 06:02:35< fabi> There is nothing more behind it.
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20130918 06:05:30< fabi> [unit_type] variation= allows for specifying the variation to use. It serves the same purpose like [unit] variation=
20130918 06:10:09< shadowm> fabi: Why variation_type instead of variation for the filter?
20130918 06:10:19< shadowm> The [unit] attribute is variation.
20130918 06:10:33< shadowm> Also, why does [unit_type] need to be able to specify a variation?
20130918 06:10:52< fabi> Because you filter with type for the id.
20130918 06:11:50< fabi> Thus I thought filtering with variation_type makes sense.
20130918 06:12:07< shadowm> type=Unit Type     variation=variation_name
20130918 06:12:36< shadowm> That's what I'd use if I needed to filter both on the unit type and variation.
20130918 06:14:05< fabi> The next step will be to have variation_name a translateable string and an additional variation_id.
20130918 06:15:05< shadowm> How does this relate to the variation_type filter?
20130918 06:16:06< fabi> The thought I wrote about above.
20130918 06:16:13< fabi> type filters for id
20130918 06:16:27< fabi> variation_type filters for variation_id
20130918 06:16:42< fabi> That is easy to memorize.
20130918 06:17:21< shadowm> So why not just variation=?
20130918 06:17:54< fabi> That is fine as well. If you prefer just variation I am happy to change it. 
20130918 06:17:56< shadowm> (Noting that currently, [filter_wml] variation= would be equivalent.)
20130918 06:18:04< fabi> no
20130918 06:18:53< fabi> variation= (or currently still variation_type) can be a list.
20130918 06:19:33< shadowm> [filter_wml] variation=var1 [or] variation=var2 [/or] [or] variation=var3 [/or] [...]
20130918 06:19:52< shadowm> I thought that was obvious.
20130918 06:20:06< fabi> Well, yes.
20130918 06:20:49< shadowm> And according to the diff I'm reading, the last commit allows unit_type to specify a 'default' variation. Is that right?
20130918 06:20:57< fabi> yes
20130918 06:21:03< shadowm> Why is this necessary?
20130918 06:21:41< fabi> It is not.
20130918 06:21:44< shadowm> That is, for all this time the default variation for a unit type with variations is to not use a variation. This seems perfectly natural and reasonable to me.
20130918 06:24:09< fabi> Yes, If you do not use variation= in [unit_type] the base unit is still the default.
20130918 06:25:02< shadowm> So why would someone want to use variation= in [unit_type] as opposed to just making that variation the base unit itself?
20130918 06:26:22< fabi> Well, my use case are different variations for height levels.
20130918 06:26:53< fabi> I have deep_submerged, submerged, ground_level, low_level_flight, medium_level_flight, high_level_flight and orbit.
20130918 06:28:08< fabi> I could make one of them the base unit. Maybe ground_level.
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20130918 06:28:24< fabi> But what about units that can never be at ground level?
20130918 06:28:51< fabi> Thus I decided that I never have non variation units in the game.
20130918 06:34:10< fabi> It makes my wml coding a lot easier this way.
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20130918 06:35:46< fabi> I also want to implement for filtering if a unit has a certain variation.
20130918 06:35:57< shadowm> OK, in any case, please do update the changelog. :(
20130918 06:36:03< fabi> Sure.
20130918 06:36:24< irker293> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 1e3e56b699f1 / RELEASE_NOTES: Updated RELEASE_NOTES for add-ons management improvements http://git.io/Tr2CoA
20130918 06:36:26< shadowm> And wiki.
20130918 06:36:38< fabi> Yes.
20130918 06:37:01< fabi> I also want to implement filtering if a unit has a certain variation type.
20130918 06:37:21< shadowm> I thought that's exactly what you just did?
20130918 06:37:23< fabi> Something like has_variation=ground_level
20130918 06:37:33< shadowm> Oh, that.
20130918 06:37:44< shadowm> Yeah, makes sense.
20130918 06:38:12< shadowm> wesbot: seen lipkab
20130918 06:38:13< wesbot> shadowm: The person with the nick lipkab last spoke 9h 8m ago.  8h 44m ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth with the message: Quit: Távozom
20130918 06:38:46< shadowm> lipkab: How would you prefer me to provide feedback on the MP game setup UI changes? Some forum thread, or just IRC?
20130918 06:40:34< shadowm> mattsc, other AI people: Please don't forget RELEASE_NOTES for any changes you feel are important for players/content authors to read about in the announcement for the next release, whenever that'll take place.
20130918 06:41:24< shadowm> lipkab: Actually, the same thing applies to you, seeing as how the MP setup UI changes take up four lines in the changelog.
20130918 06:42:29< shadowm> Not sure who's behind the MP [campaign] changes and I'm too lazy to check at the moment. I'm just preemptively making sure we don't get another insultingly bland announcement like 1.11.6's. Later.
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20130918 10:27:57< groggy> espreon: your brit po commit on 1.10; didnt ivanovic fix the utbs "if if" typo?
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20130918 10:33:50< groggy> thunderstruck: do you intend for new_game_title to be translatable or not?
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20130918 10:35:08< groggy> thunderstruck: you underscored the value, but when wmllint stripped the underscore, you committed the result
20130918 10:36:04< groggy> if you intend for it to be translatable, it will have to be added to wmllint's list of translatables to keep it from stripping the underscore
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20130918 15:51:22< irker916> wesnoth: Pierre T wesnoth-old:asio_umcd b7563a26764e / src/umcd/otl/otl.hpp: Add support for the operator <<(otl_stream, boost::posix_time::ptime). http://git.io/9j5R_A
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20130918 15:51:27< irker916> wesnoth: Pierre T wesnoth-old:asio_umcd 207ba396473b / src/umcd/protocol/core/header_data_stream.cpp: Merge branch 'asio_umcd' of https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old into asio_umc http://git.io/5TE8Mw
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20130918 19:07:34< anonymissimus> fabi: ping
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20130918 19:09:08< anonymissimus> fabi: where do you have "M_PI" defined in your build setup ?
20130918 19:11:48< Soliton> math.h
20130918 19:12:11< Soliton> looks like for msvc you get to define them yourself.
20130918 19:13:56< anonymissimus> yeah; fabi : I recall you defining PI locally at another spot; so the right thing to do is putting it as a global constant somewhere into our project
20130918 19:14:01< Soliton> we should probably add it to some global header.
20130918 19:14:07 * Soliton nods.
20130918 19:14:38< anonymissimus> I recall searching and was surprised that it isn't already somwhere
20130918 19:21:19< Soliton> maybe this would be convenient for us: http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_54_0/libs/math/doc/html/constants.html
20130918 19:23:40< fabi> anonymissimus: hi
20130918 19:26:35< anonymissimus> Soliton: if it doesn't add a dependency (I guess not if it's just a header with constants)
20130918 19:26:53< Soliton> yeah, that is my guess as well.
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20130918 19:33:03< fabi> anonymissimus, Soliton: I am fine with both solutions. Just tell me how you want to get the issue fixed and I will do it.
20130918 19:35:27< Soliton> evaluate the use of that boost lib and/or define the needed math constants in a (maybe new) header of ours.
20130918 19:35:40< Soliton> and make sure that is used consistently.
20130918 19:53:29< fabi> okay
20130918 20:11:59< anonymissimus> fabi: I don't commit my local fix for PI then; if you're going to use the boost lib I guess it will work for me without the need to do anything about it
20130918 20:12:14< fabi> anonymissimus: Yepp
20130918 20:12:40< fabi> anonymissimus: I am already on it.
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20130918 20:16:31< irker432> wesnoth: anonymissimus wesnoth-old:master 93e28f42f36c / src/image_modifications.cpp: fix warnings about unreachable code http://git.io/7z1t3Q
20130918 20:16:31< irker432> wesnoth: anonymissimus wesnoth-old:master c0a24dc4b7c1 / src/sdl_utils.cpp: fix warning about unreachable code http://git.io/Z4Na3w
20130918 20:23:22< fabi> The boost constants are cool. You can use them like that pi<float>.
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20130918 20:32:35< anonymissimus> yes, boost::math::constants::pi<double>() works
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20130918 20:33:34< fabi> I wonder if it makes sense to define a lot of constants like pi_float, pi_double, pi_whatever. The coder might better use the boost lib directly.
20130918 20:40:48< anonymissimus> fabi: you added a header defining pi which refers to the boost pi ?
20130918 20:41:35< fabi> Well, that is the plan. I still search for an already existing header where it might fit in.
20130918 20:54:18< Soliton> i'd just use the boost constants directly, maybe adding a using directive if the namespace is too much.
20130918 20:59:36< fabi> Yes.
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