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20130927 00:26:20< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/builds/11841632
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20130927 00:28:01< gfgtdf> shadowm: you said before you wanted to modernizing/replacing the theme UI, what part exaclty are you unhappy with?
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20130927 00:36:02< shadowm> gfgtdf: We can't add our own functionality to it in WML, e.g. to display/control item inventories or any other such add-on things.
20130927 00:37:51< gfgtdf> shadowm: do you have a special solution in mind on how it should be from the wml authours point of view?
20130927 00:39:20< shadowm> Not really anything even remotely resembling a formal proposal, but being able to control panel contents and establish callbacks (either in WML or Lua) would probably be the gist of it.
20130927 00:39:55< shadowm> Like, "add this button with these properties when playing this scenario/campaign, I want you to invoke this Lua function/throw this WML event upon activation by the user".
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20130927 00:46:33< gfgtdf> hm ok
20130927 00:47:05< shadowm> Except that buttons would be just a special case.
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20130927 00:47:36< shadowm> For inventories, being able to see a list of items just like we can see the list of attacks would be another special case.
20130927 00:49:20< gfgtdf> shadowm: so you mean like integrating gui2 panel form lua in the ui.
20130927 00:49:52< shadowm> That would be a possible implementation option, yes.
20130927 00:50:07< shadowm> GUI2 is obviously not ready for that kind of usage yet.
20130927 00:51:06< gfgtdf> shadowm: hm i dnt know much about gui2, so why is it not?
20130927 00:51:20< shadowm> s/obviously/as far as I know/
20130927 00:52:17< shadowm> I don't know. GUI2 seems fully synchronous and monopolizes the event loop as far as I can tell. The implications for the theme UI (which has to deal with the game display) should be obvious.
20130927 00:52:46< shadowm> I also haven't seen a single instance of a GUI2 widget being used without a containing dialog.
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20130927 01:11:53< shadowm> 20130926 20:11:17 error config: Undefined macro in #ifver/#ifnver first argument at ~add-ons/After_the_Storm/_main.cfg:94
20130927 01:12:00< shadowm>     #ifver WESNOTH_VERSION >= 1.11.0
20130927 01:12:18< shadowm> See? This kind of stability issues.
20130927 01:14:50< shadowm> The behavior I'm getting here is completely nonsensical on multiple levels.
20130927 01:17:46< shadowm> gui2::show_error_message() appears to be ignoring the third arugment, or I am somehow getting invisible invalid Pango markup, _and_ WESNOTH_VERSION is not defined when I have this change compiled in.
20130927 01:19:56< shadowm> Judging by the absolutely inconsistent behavior I'm getting on each run there's probably a WML cache issue somehwere.
20130927 01:20:19< shadowm> gui2::show_error_message() seemingly ignoring the third argument remains a constant, though.
20130927 01:21:12< shadowm> /** @todo implement the markup mode. */
20130927 01:21:23< shadowm> Funny story, GUI2.
20130927 01:22:01< shadowm> And then people get mad when I rant about GUI2.
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20130927 02:01:48< irker700> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master adf1e3f7d5d9 / src/ (gui/dialogs/message.cpp gui/dialogs/message.hpp tests/gui/test_gui2.cpp): gui2: Implement Pango markup flag for tmessage and related wrappers http://git.io/QJ5RcA
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20130927 11:23:32< shadowm> !log ca3ff0b4a08c9e45d04a970bdbb9dbcee50cc6e0
20130927 11:23:35< shikadibot> shadowm: Revision ca3ff0b4a08c (Ignacio R. Morelle) on Tue Mar 22 08:40:33 2011:
20130927 11:23:39< shikadibot> shadowm: config: Treat VERSION specially when probing cache invalidation scenarios
20130927 11:23:42< shikadibot> shadowm:  
20130927 11:23:45< shikadibot> shadowm: It's not explained in the code at all, but I guess the point of
20130927 11:23:47< shikadibot> shadowm: (+8 discarded lines)
20130927 11:23:50< shikadibot> shadowm: Web interface URL: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/commit/ca3ff0b4a08c
20130927 11:24:26< shadowm> "It's not explained in the code at all".
20130927 11:24:31< shadowm> Stupid past shadowmaster.
20130927 11:25:07 * shadowm mutters something about suokko.
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20130927 16:18:05< AI0867> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=39395
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20130927 16:27:26< irker809> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master dbc3bffdef6e / data/campaigns/Liberty/maps/01_The_Raid.map: Liberty::The_Raid: strip trailing spaces in map file http://git.io/cfxHsQ
20130927 16:27:28< irker809> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 932e9eafafdb / / (3 files in 3 dirs): Liberty::The_Raid: Use Messenger Micro AI for wolf rider side http://git.io/WuSsKQ
20130927 16:27:38< mattsc> zookeeper: ^
20130927 16:28:44< mattsc> I did some very minor rebalancing of the scenario.  I didn't add/remove any units, but changed their starting positions somewhat.  I also change three hexes on the right border of the map in order to slow down the wolves a little.
20130927 16:29:03< zookeeper> sounds good to me
20130927 16:29:31< mattsc> I kept it slightly on the tricky side (it's not difficult, but you have to be somewhat careful otherwise the wolves slip through).
20130927 16:29:57< mattsc> The main thing is that you cannot lure the support wolves away any more by giving them an easy target.  :D
20130927 16:31:02< zookeeper> sure, it's good if you actually have to think about how to block the wolves
20130927 16:31:36< mattsc> Personally I think it's more interesting now, but I am biased of course.
20130927 16:32:23< zookeeper> nah, scenario interestingness isn't rocket science :P
20130927 16:34:49< mattsc> zookeeper: :P  In any case, I'll stop bugging you about this now.  (But I do think that you should try it out once at least and tell me if anything should be changed.)
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20130927 16:44:51< zookeeper> mattsc, yeah, i will... :}
20130927 16:45:51< zookeeper> it's also weird how my router occasionally drops the internet connection, but booting up the second computer connected to it (which is almost never on otherwise) brings it back up.
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20130927 17:25:43< flash1900> Anyone a Translator Here?
20130927 17:25:51< bumbadadabum> me
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20130927 21:08:37< thunderstruck> lipkab: Hello. Could you update RELEASE_NOTES for your changes to mp::create?
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20130927 22:10:52< jack_> hi
20130927 22:11:18< jack_> how is every one today?
20130927 22:12:50< jack_> does any one Answer??
20130927 22:14:44< jack_> I am having issues with wesnoth minnor any here to help?
20130927 22:19:42< jack_> I not sure to say it, it could be a feature, but at the same time it could be a bug
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20130927 23:35:19< lipkab> thunderstruck: Sure, I'll do it.
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20130927 23:47:23< flix> mattsc: Hey! I just played IftU1 and hadn't the feeling that it is too easy. But I don't know if this scenario was a good one to test save_gold. The ratio was always around 1.0 and the AI was only for short periods in the SAVE_GOLD state.
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20130927 23:51:14< mattsc> flix: okay, noted.  I think if you use a MP scenario and give the AI side a lot more gold than yourself, it might be a better test case.
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20130927 23:54:46< flix> mattsc: I played also one round in Freelands with 100 gold for me and 175 for the AI. I had the feeling that save_gold had a rather low impact there too. I'm really not sure how we should handle it... Tomorrow I'll play another game with a huge amount of gold for the AI.
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20130927 23:57:46< mattsc> flix: sounds good.  I haven't done anything else yet.  I've been distracted by less important things like work ...
20130927 23:58:03< mattsc> I'll try to do a few test runs over the weekend as well.
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