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20130916 07:20:02< irker440> wesnoth-umc-dev: doofus-01 * r19254 /trunk/Trinity/ (5 files in 4 dirs): 
20130916 07:20:02< irker440> wesnoth-umc-dev: unit file added
20130916 07:21:45< irker440> wesnoth-umc-dev: doofus-01 * r19255 /trunk/Trinity/ (maps/damned_tower/inside.map images/units/cyborg+female.png): 
20130916 07:21:45< irker440> wesnoth-umc-dev: some overlooked files added
20130916 07:23:50< irker440> wesnoth-umc-dev: doofus-01 * r19256 /trunk/Archaic_Resources/utils/terrain.cfg: 
20130916 07:23:51< irker440> wesnoth-umc-dev: some terrain fixes
20130916 07:25:14< irker440> wesnoth-umc-dev: doofus-01 * r19257 /trunk/Archaic_Era/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
20130916 07:25:14< irker440> wesnoth-umc-dev: some small image and movement fixes to phantom faction
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20130916 17:07:53< irker656> AI-Demos: mattsc master * rd53bae2 / lua/grunt_rush_Freelands_S1_engine.lua : Fred zone attack: decrease enemy_worth in leader_threat zone - http://git.io/6oVEkg
20130916 17:07:53< irker656> We need the AI to be more aggressive against units that are a threat to
20130916 17:07:53< irker656> the leader, but the previous value might have been too high.
20130916 17:12:31< vultraz> mattsc: BTW...I found that using {AI_SIMPLE_ALWAYS_ASPECT inside an additional [ai] tag inside [side] when a MAI is used, it will register, but stuff like [avoid] will not
20130916 17:12:42< vultraz> is there some reason the former works and not the latter?
20130916 17:17:04< mattsc> vultraz: looking at the macro code, the reason why it works for scalar aspects is because it uses the [ai][aspect][facet] syntax, rather than [ai]key=
20130916 17:17:24< mattsc> I don't know right now why it wouldn't work for tag-style aspects
20130916 17:18:05< vultraz> what exactly is a facet anyway
20130916 17:18:09< vultraz> It always confused me
20130916 17:19:15< mattsc> vultraz: I am still hoping that Crab_ will get around to making the old ("classical") syntax work when a Lua AI is present, and then all of these should work ...
20130916 17:20:42< vultraz> ah
20130916 17:21:38< mattsc> vultraz: as for why exactly it is called facet, I am not sure either
20130916 17:22:03< mattsc> but it is one of the possible configurations of an aspect
20130916 17:22:41< mattsc> my guess is that this is why the word is being used.  It's one of the "facets of an aspect"  :P
20130916 17:23:18< vultraz> so...what's the difference between using [ai] {AI_SIMPLE_ALWAYS_ASPECT grouping=no or [ai] grouping=no
20130916 17:24:10< mattsc> The syntax by which it is read
20130916 17:24:36< mattsc> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/AiWML#A_Bit_More_on_Simple_vs._Composite_Aspects
20130916 17:24:55< mattsc> Look at the first two code blocks there
20130916 17:25:32< mattsc> Your second example uses the simple syntax, the macro uses the composite syntax
20130916 17:26:06< mattsc> The simple syntax is the old syntax, then later the composite syntax was added.
20130916 17:26:38< vultraz> I see...
20130916 17:26:48< mattsc> For some reason Crab_ et al. decided that the old syntax should not be used when the lua engine is used, but he doesn't remember why
20130916 17:27:26< mattsc> There probably was a reason at some point, but it's not needed any more, so Crab_'s going to make the old syntax work again too.  Sometime.
20130916 17:29:19< mattsc> vultraz: actually, the last code block in that section is really what the macro uses
20130916 17:29:55< mattsc> and that's probably why it doesn't work for [avoid].  Actually, that is definitely why it doesn't work.
20130916 17:30:03< mattsc> That's what the SIMPLE in the macro name means
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