--- Log opened Sat Sep 07 00:01:00 2013 20130907 00:05:18-!- desophos [~desophos@n138h11.dhcp.oxy.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20130907 00:08:10-!- Rackmount [~frogsicle@173.240.222.2] has quit [Quit: Thanks for the ride Bandit, and good luck tapping that *grimace* hot... hot... 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Is this the right place to ask dumbass questions about the code? 20130907 05:03:17-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20130907 05:04:15< celticminstrel> Wesnoth code or WML code? 20130907 05:04:16< XanatosGambit> justinzane: yes. #wesnoth-dev is also relevant 20130907 05:04:20< shadowm> Depends on whether you mean the code that makes up campaigns, scenarios, units, and so on (WML and Lua), or the code that makes up the game engine (C++). 20130907 05:04:28< XanatosGambit> But the forums are probably best. 20130907 05:04:30< celticminstrel> Ah yes, -dev, I was trying to remember that. 20130907 05:04:47< XanatosGambit> Well no, "best" isn't the right word. Um... 20130907 05:04:50< shadowm> For the latter only #wesnoth-dev would be suitable, but most of the relevant people are asleep at this time of the day. 20130907 05:04:50< justinzane> Right now, C++... 20130907 05:05:03< justinzane> thanks, shadowm 20130907 05:05:08< shadowm> Depending on the question, I or someone else might be able to help too. 20130907 05:08:41< justinzane> Well, I've been thinking about the eternally interesting "randomess" of combat. And, it struck me that most combat should not have a linear distribution for damage, specifically. So I was wanting to edit the damage code to try several different type of distributions. 20130907 05:08:41-!- XanatosGambit [~derek@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130907 05:10:22< shadowm> In 1.11.x and Git master the attack code is in src/actions/attack.?pp, I believe; src/actions.?pp in 1.10.x and earlier. 20130907 05:10:24< justinzane> Basically, I'm having a heck of a time determining where exactly this gets calculated. I though I'd ask before trying to do a call graph of al the sources. 20130907 05:10:49< justinzane> Ok. That is where I had honed in on. 20130907 05:11:48< justinzane> On a related note, does anyone know if there is some sport -- perhaps fencing -- that generates statistically analyzable data? 20130907 05:13:15< shadowm> Not me, at least. I don't know anything about statistics or sports. 20130907 05:18:06-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@ip68-3-135-148.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 05:26:47< justinzane> just found this: http://scores-sca.org/public/scores_current.php?R=10&Shoot=89&W=274&Show=ALL&DL=Y 20130907 05:27:23< justinzane> Ranged combat scores... kinda-sorta :) 20130907 05:44:21-!- desophos [~desophos@n138h11.dhcp.oxy.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20130907 05:46:48-!- desophos [~desophos@n138h11.dhcp.oxy.edu] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 06:02:44-!- justinzane is now known as absent_justinzan 20130907 06:03:38-!- absent_justinzan is now known as justinzane 20130907 06:31:23-!- diffycat [~diffycat@85.113.55.206] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 06:35:12-!- oldtopman [~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman] has quit [Quit: *poof*] 20130907 06:48:29-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [] 20130907 06:59:50-!- iwaim [~iwaim@2001:2c0:40e:2002:0:4:14:80] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20130907 06:59:52-!- iwaim__ [~iwaim@2001:2c0:40e:2002:0:4:14:80] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 07:08:32< justinzane> Another question: what is the intent of the "attack/defense_weight" value? It seems to be used to force the AI to de-prefer certain attack types when defending; but, that seems to defeat the purpose of having the AI choose the best attack in a situation. 20130907 07:24:40< Soliton> naturally you're going to use it in situations where the AI is not going to choose the best attack. 20130907 07:51:02-!- ancestral [~ancestral@65-128-232-98.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: And that’s the end of THAT chapter.] 20130907 08:10:25-!- ngoclong19 [~Thunderbi@118.68.38.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20130907 08:11:11-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@x2f4fd52.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Changing host] 20130907 08:11:11-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 08:21:20-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: KABOOM! It seems that I have exploded. 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20130907 14:15:20< Abhijit> noob here 20130907 14:20:31-!- ngoclong19 [~Thunderbi@118.68.38.96] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 14:28:15-!- bhldev [~brian@198-84-226-84.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20130907 14:32:09-!- bhldev [~brian@198-84-226-84.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 14:38:48-!- Abhijit [~abhijit@unaffiliated/abhijit] has quit [Quit: Help Me Make It for Open Source Contribution Through Micro Finance http://igg.me/at/abhijitnavale/x/3196928] 20130907 14:52:09-!- EliDupree [~quassel@66-189-34-122.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 15:20:07-!- oldtopman [~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 15:28:29-!- Wuzzy [~Wuzzy@p549FBDFB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 15:34:21-!- ArneBab [~quassel@212.255.232.197] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 15:36:56-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@212.255.16.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20130907 15:50:50-!- absent_justinzan is now known as justinzane 20130907 16:10:29-!- MouldyOldBones [~mob@gateway/tor-sasl/mouldyoldbones] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20130907 16:10:30-!- Ard0nik [~ardonik@adsl-75-28-106-56.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 16:11:41-!- Ardonik [~ardonik@adsl-75-28-107-190.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20130907 16:12:38-!- Ard0nik [~ardonik@adsl-75-28-106-56.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130907 16:13:14-!- Ard0nik [~ardonik@75.28.106.125] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 16:20:33-!- MouldyOldBones [~mob@gateway/tor-sasl/mouldyoldbones] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 16:30:13-!- TC01 [~TC01@128.220.109.12] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130907 16:37:14-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 16:39:36-!- Ard0nik [~ardonik@75.28.106.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20130907 16:40:29-!- Octalot [~noct@86.159.77.104] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 16:41:10< Necrosporus> Can be wesnoth add-ons written entirely on Lua including unit descriptions, events and so on? 20130907 16:41:22< Necrosporus> Is it better or worse to do than to use WML? 20130907 16:41:58< Necrosporus> * in lua 20130907 16:42:20< celticminstrel> I think only the scenario actions can be Lua? Not sure though. 20130907 16:42:40< celticminstrel> You can definitely write your events entirely in Lua. 20130907 16:52:41-!- Ard0nik [~ardonik@adsl-75-28-102-209.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 16:54:21-!- horon [~horon@nttkyo176024.tkyo.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20130907 17:29:54-!- bhldev [~brian@198-84-226-84.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20130907 17:31:24-!- TooLmaN [~TooLmaN@c-71-226-1-37.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 17:31:37-!- bhldev [~brian@198.84.226.84] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 17:39:16-!- Falcon` is now known as falcon` 20130907 17:48:37-!- Octalot [~noct@86.159.77.104] has quit [] 20130907 17:54:40-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@x2f4fd52.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Changing host] 20130907 17:54:41-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 17:58:14-!- TC01 [~TC01@128.220.109.12] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 18:03:51-!- Kostic [~marko@85.202.113.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20130907 18:31:00-!- TooLmaN [~TooLmaN@c-71-226-1-37.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20130907 18:33:25-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DC6ACB7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 18:40:13-!- bhldev [~brian@198.84.226.84] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20130907 18:42:57-!- bhldev [~brian@198-84-226-84.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 18:45:02-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@apn-5-206-136-81.vodafone.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130907 18:46:07-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@apn-94-44-253-96.vodafone.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 19:11:06-!- Kostic [~marko@net89-1-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 19:20:20-!- falcon` is now known as Falcon` 20130907 19:23:26-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@ip68-3-135-148.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 19:26:58-!- ngoclong19 [~Thunderbi@118.68.38.96] has quit [Quit: ngoclong19] 20130907 19:34:59-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@apn-94-44-253-96.vodafone.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20130907 19:42:34-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 19:55:47-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@apn-94-44-253-96.vodafone.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20130907 20:02:50-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20130907 20:09:49-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@apn-94-44-253-96.vodafone.hu] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - 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