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20131021 00:05:45< bumbadadabum> Jetrel_new: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=561310#p561310
20131021 00:05:49< bumbadadabum> I don't know about this
20131021 00:05:53< bumbadadabum> answer this
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20131021 02:28:30< irker486> wesnoth: David Mikos wesnoth-old:master fff592d99c19 / data/ (6 files in 2 dirs): thunderer melee timings & THoT masked thunderer use new knife sound. http://git.io/CPW15A
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20131021 03:34:11< irker486> wesnoth: David Mikos wesnoth-old:master 78cf3be5aceb / src/ (multiplayer_connect_engine.cpp multiplayer_connect_engine.hpp): Fix bug 20936 in shuffle sides by reverting d49b183fb1252d913b8ca8afdbc0feec885b http://git.io/uU0v0g
20131021 03:40:52< irker486> wesnoth: David Mikos wesnoth-old:master a3b6759ad05c / changelog: Add changelog entry for shuffle sides bug fix. http://git.io/QGuMeg
20131021 04:15:45 * shadowm prods elias .
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20131021 06:55:37< shadowm> I was going to fix the formatting in the CompilingWesnothOnWindows page in the wiki, but it seems the Windows developers not only like to complain about being underprivileged, but they are also mysteriously allergic to proper and meaningful text structure and content.
20131021 06:56:07< shadowm> I'll just try to fix the CB readme in the Git repository instead.
20131021 06:57:43< shadowm> To make matters worse, nobody has realized that the aforementioned page is a wiki page and that we don't need to keep every obsolete iteration around.
20131021 07:01:13< vultraz> Wasn't there also some outdated Doxygen stuff re the repository?
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20131021 07:05:02< shadowm> I am sure there are many things that are both outdated and unrelated to compiling guides, yes.
20131021 07:17:42< Soliton> Coffee_irc: maybe some more comments are needed for the shuffle sides feature to prevent future misunderstandings.
20131021 07:18:08< Coffee_irc> Soliton: I tried to be a bit more verbose in the comment area
20131021 07:18:26< Coffee_irc> by adding a bit more about how it worked
20131021 07:18:38< Coffee_irc> but I will take a further look at it for mp campaigns later
20131021 07:19:02< Soliton> ok, i didn't notice when looking at the revert commit.
20131021 07:19:05< Coffee_irc> since I already have a UMC one I can see if it works in practise
20131021 07:21:43< Soliton> get_children_to_swap() for example makes no mention why those children are the ones in need to be swapped.
20131021 07:23:37< Coffee_irc> I'll clear that up with comments later
20131021 07:23:47< Coffee_irc> makes sense to me
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20131021 07:31:57< irker486> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 038e76ee4765 / projectfiles/CodeBlocks/README.txt: Make the CodeBlocks projectfiles README pretty and not confusing http://git.io/BJyJ_Q
20131021 07:35:01< shadowm> zookeeper: What I'm trying to say is that you must make sure that neither you nor your translators include commas as part of the translatable strings.
20131021 07:35:13< zookeeper> ohhh, right.
20131021 07:36:05< zookeeper> yeah that could be a bit of a problem indeed.
20131021 07:36:22< shadowm> Or ellipses or any other instances of '..' in substrings.
20131021 07:45:26< zookeeper> commas can't be escaped in this case, right?
20131021 07:46:03< shadowm> No.
20131021 07:46:40< shadowm> Hm, well, maybe, actually, assuming the presentation target supports Pango markup.
20131021 07:47:25< shadowm> If I'm not mistaken, Pango accepts XML decimal entities, so "&#44;" should get you a comma that the rand code won't see.
20131021 07:47:33< zookeeper> mm-hmmh
20131021 07:50:11< zookeeper> but then again, making the thing clear enough for translators might be more trouble than the switch-based approach.
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20131021 08:44:02-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: current repo: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old (Please read the dev-ml for the latest status!) | 197 bugs, 339 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20131021 08:54:46< AI0867> wesbot: bug #20936
20131021 08:54:46< wesbot> Bug #20936  Assigned to: David Mikos <coffee>  Status: Fixed  Priority: 5 - Normal
20131021 08:54:49< wesbot> Summary: 2p - Hamlets: Bonus village given to wrong side
20131021 08:54:52< wesbot> Original submission: See the attached replay.  To reproduce, start a local mul
20131021 08:54:55< wesbot> tiplayer game on 2p - Hamlets, turn on Shuffle Sides, put yourself in the first 
20131021 08:54:58< wesbot> URL: http://gna.org/bugs/?20936
20131021 08:55:00< wesbot> Attached file (1st): http://gna.org/bugs/download.php?file_id=18189
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20131021 10:12:52< Coffee_irc> bumbadadabum: ping
20131021 10:13:00< bumbadadabum> pong
20131021 10:13:07< Coffee_irc> hi
20131021 10:13:15< Coffee_irc> sorry to bring up again the chill wave stuff
20131021 10:13:25< bumbadadabum> np
20131021 10:13:26< Coffee_irc> you got a sec?
20131021 10:13:31< bumbadadabum> yes
20131021 10:13:44< Coffee_irc> I've been testing with the new animation and was wondering about the miss frames
20131021 10:13:50< Coffee_irc> for the chill wave
20131021 10:14:01< Coffee_irc> at the moment they look identical
20131021 10:14:07< bumbadadabum> yeah, maybe we could do something with that\
20131021 10:14:22< Coffee_irc> I was wondering if for the miss frames we could do a transparency to nothing effect
20131021 10:14:29< Coffee_irc> to make it look like it is evaporating
20131021 10:15:24< bumbadadabum> we'd have to split the macros, though
20131021 10:15:30< Coffee_irc> no
20131021 10:15:39< Coffee_irc> we'd do it like for the fireball macro
20131021 10:15:52< Coffee_irc> with the if hits=yes and such
20131021 10:16:57< Coffee_irc> so instead of icemissile1~7 we might have for the miss missile1~O([100%,80%,60%,40%,20%,0%])
20131021 10:17:08< bumbadadabum> didn't 2 [if]s in a row mess up?
20131021 10:17:14< Coffee_irc> nope
20131021 10:17:20< Coffee_irc> you can have as many as you want
20131021 10:17:25< Coffee_irc> as long as they are not nested
20131021 10:17:35< Coffee_irc> if you nest them, then they can't be stacked
20131021 10:17:56< bumbadadabum> I had some trouble with [if] hits=yes [/if] [if] hits=no [/if]4
20131021 10:18:16< Coffee_irc> yeah, that won't work
20131021 10:18:20< Coffee_irc> you'd need else
20131021 10:18:25< Coffee_irc> for the sedon if
20131021 10:18:29< Coffee_irc> *second
20131021 10:18:36< bumbadadabum> but what if it
20131021 10:18:42< bumbadadabum> 's for something different
20131021 10:19:07< Coffee_irc> it would be fine because the missile_frames have a unique name
20131021 10:19:17< bumbadadabum> oh of course
20131021 10:19:17< Coffee_irc> like for the lightning animation macro or fireball
20131021 10:19:35< bumbadadabum> yeah I was just being silly
20131021 10:19:42< Coffee_irc> maybe this is something to fix in the future so you don't have to worry about these things
20131021 10:20:12< Coffee_irc> but I probably couldn't be bothered and try to pass it on to boucman :P
20131021 10:22:31< Coffee_irc> bumbadadabum: http://pastebin.com/JunDBPW2
20131021 10:23:17< bumbadadabum> Coffee_irc: maybe do have it go past frame 1
20131021 10:23:23< bumbadadabum> maybe frame 3
20131021 10:23:56< Coffee_irc> like: image="projectiles/icemissile-n-[1~3].png~O([100%,66%,33%]):40"
20131021 10:24:00< bumbadadabum> yes
20131021 10:25:10< Coffee_irc> bumbadadabum: it kind of looks like the hit frame now
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20131021 10:25:37< bumbadadabum> does it?
20131021 10:25:44< Coffee_irc> to me it does
20131021 10:25:54< bumbadadabum> maybe offset=0~0.1
20131021 10:25:55< Coffee_irc> but it doesn't look right with one frame also I suppose
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20131021 10:29:11< Coffee_irc> bumbadadabum: actually it looks like you were right about the hits=yes thing
20131021 10:29:19< Coffee_irc> I am getting sometimes the wrong animation drawn
20131021 10:29:23< bumbadadabum> yep
20131021 10:30:19< Coffee_irc> oh I see why the thunderer has 2 macros now
20131021 10:30:24< Coffee_irc> one for hit and one for miss
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20131021 10:33:08< Coffee_irc> I suppose this bug needs to be fixed
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20131021 12:32:04< elias> shadowm: yes?
20131021 12:32:37< elias> shadowm: if it's about the state of investigating the size of units.wesnoth.org, still not got around to that
20131021 12:33:07< elias> shadowm: and me (as well as irssi when I restarted it) forgot the name of that other channel :P
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20131021 17:43:49< Soliton> elias: /script install autochannel
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20131021 18:22:31< elias> Soliton: what does audiochannel do?
20131021 18:22:35< elias> auto
20131021 18:22:52< Soliton> elias: /script info autochannel
20131021 18:23:33< Soliton> adds channels you join to the autojoin list.
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20131021 18:23:59< elias> i think i have that anyway
20131021 18:24:08< elias> ivjust forgot /save
20131021 18:24:26< elias> so on restarting irssi everything was gone
20131021 18:25:47< Soliton> i'm not aware that you have to call /save.
20131021 18:26:15< Soliton> you can check if you have it with /script list.
20131021 18:26:21< elias> oh, so maybe that's what it does
20131021 18:28:01< elias> because by default, channels are saved and rejoined... as long as you do /save before quitting irssi
20131021 18:28:26< Soliton> that's news to me.
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20131021 18:31:36< elias> ah, maybe i did /channel add, i see
20131021 18:32:07< elias> then I'm probably only in the channels right now i was 5 years ago :p
20131021 18:32:51< elias> wonder if there's any other channel i accidentally left last week
20131021 18:34:03< Soliton> maybe you have autolog turned on? then you could check your logs.
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20131021 19:31:05< mattsc> fabi__: FYI: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=39456&p=561363#p561363
20131021 19:31:14< mattsc> Let me know if you have an opinion on this.
20131021 19:31:39< fabi__> mattsc: hi 
20131021 19:31:49< fabi__> mattsc: Do you want to chat or shall I answer in the thread?
20131021 19:32:02< mattsc> fabi__: either way is fine by me
20131021 19:32:09< fabi__> okay
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20131021 20:46:51< thunderstruck> wesbot: ping Coffee_irc 
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20131021 21:10:01< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: pong
20131021 21:10:39< thunderstruck> Hello. I was aware that I didn't fix the thing about colors.
20131021 21:10:49< thunderstruck> I'm just not sure what's wrong there.
20131021 21:11:20< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: looks like all of the settings are set to locked by default
20131021 21:11:49< Coffee_irc> are you sure that any can actually be set to unlocked?
20131021 21:11:59< Coffee_irc> without setting the variable for it?
20131021 21:12:31< thunderstruck> If "Use map settings" is ticked off, it should all the settings should be unlocked.
20131021 21:12:49< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: this is good in theory ;)
20131021 21:13:06< Coffee_irc> but for "use map settings" it doesn't work
20131021 21:13:38< Coffee_irc> as far as I can tell if there is no variable for anything mentioned in the WML it should be unlocked with "use map settings"?
20131021 21:13:51< Coffee_irc> this is the intended behaviour is it not?
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20131021 21:15:29< thunderstruck> But what's the use of "use map settings" then?
20131021 21:15:51< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: sorry to go over it again, but...
20131021 21:16:07< Coffee_irc> if "use map settings" is set then I figure the following should be true:
20131021 21:16:20< Coffee_irc> if no color is specificed in the WML it should be unlocked
20131021 21:16:42< Coffee_irc> if it is specified, then it should be locked unless 'color_lock' is set to false
20131021 21:17:07< thunderstruck> So are you concerned only about color behaviour?
20131021 21:17:09< Coffee_irc> if "use map settings" is unticked then everything should be unlocked
20131021 21:17:26< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: well, for me it is the most important for players
20131021 21:17:34< Coffee_irc> they like to change the colors around
20131021 21:18:12< Coffee_irc> but really it should be able to be set so that the income and such can also be changed if intended with "use map settings"
20131021 21:18:32< Coffee_irc> for maps such as "auction-x" the default gold for AI is often increased for example
20131021 21:19:01< thunderstruck> I mean, are you fine that all other settings gets locked if "use map settings" is ticked and no lock attributes were specified?
20131021 21:19:21< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: not really
20131021 21:19:37< Coffee_irc> that's not how it is documented as far as I can tell
20131021 21:19:38< thunderstruck> I see. I thought that we agreed on those things last time.
20131021 21:20:38< thunderstruck> Well, documentation is a different thing.
20131021 21:20:41< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: then what do you mean about using "N.B. the lock attributes use "Use map settings" option as their default value. "
20131021 21:20:51< Coffee_irc> from http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SideWML
20131021 21:20:52< thunderstruck> I think I've updated it last time.
20131021 21:22:24< Coffee_irc> maybe it would make sense to say that all the locks are set to "true" by default if "use map settings" is on and "false" if not
20131021 21:22:24< thunderstruck> That means that attribute's default value gets set to whatever "Use map settings" value is (whether it is ticked or not).
20131021 21:22:40< thunderstruck> Yes, that sounds better.
20131021 21:22:51< Coffee_irc> then people like me would not be confused
20131021 21:23:02< thunderstruck> But I thought that we're discussing the actual behaviour, not the documentation.
20131021 21:23:18< thunderstruck> Sorry that you got confused.
20131021 21:23:23< thunderstruck> I'm sorry that*
20131021 21:24:11< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: then it is worth setting all the 'color_lock's to false in all the default multiplayer maps?
20131021 21:25:01< thunderstruck> I guess "color_lock" could be an exception and have a fixed default value.
20131021 21:25:10< thunderstruck> Which would be "no".
20131021 21:25:35< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: problem is that in some maps you can have the same color as AI units or units you can't see on the list
20131021 21:27:10< Coffee_irc> if you don't allow players to change these things (and gold and such) for some maps you can end up with the situation where no one will play with "use map settings"
20131021 21:27:33< Coffee_irc> and the xp will not be good or the time of day for starting will be out of sync
20131021 21:27:58< Coffee_irc> this is why it is a bit thorny IMO
20131021 21:28:07< Coffee_irc> but with good defaults we can avoid this
20131021 21:28:18< Coffee_irc> for the standard mp maps in core
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20131021 21:28:51< thunderstruck> By "good defaults" you mean that if "use map settings" was unticked, the default settings value should still reflect the values in WML?
20131021 21:29:01< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: depends on the map
20131021 21:29:40< Coffee_irc> might have to add "gold lock" no and "income lock" to all the standard plain mp combat maps
20131021 21:29:50< Coffee_irc> as well as "color_lock" no
20131021 21:30:16< Coffee_irc> and for "auction X" it would make sense to be able to change the AI gold and income
20131021 21:30:46< thunderstruck> How this is related to AI?
20131021 21:31:02< Coffee_irc> for the survivals (2p dark forecast and 6p hex) there is a separate AI side with a color already set
20131021 21:31:03< thunderstruck> I mean that those settings don't influence just players or just AI sides.
20131021 21:31:27< thunderstruck> And it is not visible to a player, right?
20131021 21:31:35< thunderstruck> the side is not visible*
20131021 21:32:04< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: problem is that the player can choose the same color as the AI without knowing (because they can't see it on the list)
20131021 21:32:17< Coffee_irc> and then you have 2 sides with the same color
20131021 21:32:32< thunderstruck> But isn't it a separete issue?
20131021 21:32:39< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: I suppose so
20131021 21:32:55< Coffee_irc> and that could be fixed by taking out some colors that are already locked from selection I suppose
20131021 21:33:04< Coffee_irc> or in other ways
20131021 21:33:41< thunderstruck> I don't really have much time. Could we focus on "Use map settings" behaviour again?
20131021 21:34:05< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: perhaps it is fine as it is
20131021 21:34:20< Coffee_irc> and just could do with setting some default values for the mp maps
20131021 21:36:11< thunderstruck> So the question is which locks should get those values in standard mp scenarios.
20131021 21:36:14< thunderstruck> ?
20131021 21:36:22< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: I think so
20131021 21:36:36< Coffee_irc> I'm happy for someone else to chime in their opinion on this
20131021 21:36:40< Soliton> the defaults should be set so default mp maps work as before.
20131021 21:36:53< Coffee_irc> Soliton: that makes sense
20131021 21:37:22< Soliton> putting lots of *_lock=no settings everywhere is not useful.
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20131021 21:37:57< thunderstruck> From some point of view it does make sense. But it doesn't if you actually think that "Use map settings" was ticked.
20131021 21:38:17< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: "use map settings" is only a guide
20131021 21:38:24< Coffee_irc> that is how it is now
20131021 21:39:12< Soliton> it means that whatever the author clearly specified as a mandatory setting should not be allowed to change.
20131021 21:39:34< Soliton> i.e. by a *_lock=true setting.
20131021 21:40:47< thunderstruck> Alright. Now it makes more sense since you tell me that it is only a "guide".
20131021 21:40:50< Coffee_irc> what Soliton is saying makes the most sense IMO
20131021 21:41:08< Coffee_irc> what I meant is that it is intended by the author that the player play with "use map settings" on
20131021 21:41:17< Coffee_irc> and most players I've seen always have it ticked
20131021 21:42:03< thunderstruck> I think that I should remove that "use map settings" as default value. So that things would be as they used to be.
20131021 21:42:24< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: yeah, this would be simplest
20131021 21:42:28< thunderstruck> And then add a new attribute, which would trigger that all *_lock would be "true".
20131021 21:42:44< thunderstruck> This would avoid the tedious work specifying every lock for MP campaigns.
20131021 21:42:49< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: what have you got for locking all the things? :P
20131021 21:42:51< thunderstruck> And would not break the mp scenarios.
20131021 21:43:10< thunderstruck> Huh?
20131021 21:43:22< thunderstruck> Are you asking why do I want to do that?
20131021 21:43:28< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: I suppose it makes sense for the MP campaigns
20131021 21:43:39< Coffee_irc> which is what this is probably all for in the end?
20131021 21:43:49< thunderstruck> Yes, that's right.
20131021 21:43:52< Coffee_irc> except they have a setting to choose from that is the equivalent
20131021 21:43:59< Coffee_irc> EASY, MEDIUM, and HARD
20131021 21:44:17< thunderstruck> But I honestly thoght that this would make sense for MP scenarios as well.
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20131021 21:44:43< thunderstruck> s/thoght/thought
20131021 21:44:51< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: IMO it doesn't make sense based on what players do online
20131021 21:45:14< mattsc> Coffee_irc: not to distract you for now, but for later:  http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=39505
20131021 21:45:23< Coffee_irc> although I think players of cmapiangs need different settings
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20131021 21:45:55< thunderstruck> Yes. I shouldn't have tried to generalize this solution.
20131021 21:46:02< Coffee_irc> mattsc, thunderstruck: oh yeah there is the shuffle sides thing too
20131021 21:46:12< Coffee_irc> I did say I'd look at that
20131021 21:46:30< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: from what I've seen with players playing my UMC MP campaign
20131021 21:46:42< Coffee_irc> it is better to give sensible default locked values for campaigns
20131021 21:47:01< Coffee_irc> or newbie will play with 30% xp instead of 100% and complain that it is too hard
20131021 21:47:23< Coffee_irc> or choose ridiculous gold to start with
20131021 21:47:38< Coffee_irc> and no one will join if it is a long campaign
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20131021 21:47:45< thunderstruck> Okay, so I will just add some new attribute for that. Luckily, I will barely have to change the current code to do that.
20131021 21:48:26< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: my opinion is that you want it to be hard to change values for MP campaigns
20131021 21:48:37< Coffee_irc> beyond EASY, MEDIUM, and HARD
20131021 21:48:44< Coffee_irc> and also to simplify testing
20131021 21:49:10< Coffee_irc> regular scenarios do not have EASY, MEDIUM, or HARD and hence require tweaking in some cases
20131021 21:49:32< Coffee_irc> or auction-x could be too ewasy or too hard for some players for example
20131021 21:49:35< Coffee_irc> *easy
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20131021 21:52:52< Coffee_irc> mattsc: done ;)
20131021 21:53:27< mattsc> Coffee_irc: I do vaguely remember to seeing some commits about 18h ago.  ;)
20131021 21:53:41< mattsc> Umm, no 'to' in that sentence ...
20131021 21:54:12< mattsc> Coffee_irc: I just figured you'd be in the best position to reply to that.
20131021 21:54:54< Coffee_irc> well I've agreed to test the shuffle sides feature more extensively and do minor bug fixing on it
20131021 21:55:49< thunderstruck> Soliton: I would like to ask your opinion on what should be a good behaviour for one case. Suppose that MP campaign is being played and that the host win a scenario and thus, goes to mp::connect because of the campaign settings. However, the host decides to quit the game and pressed "Quit" button in mp::connect.
20131021 21:56:25< thunderstruck> So, should some other player be offered to replace host by other player and became a host?
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20131021 21:58:26< Soliton> good question.
20131021 21:58:28< thunderstruck> Coffee_irc: does reverting that shuffle side commit actually fixes things? If I recall, that should at least introduce another bug.
20131021 21:59:16< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: yeah
20131021 21:59:32< Coffee_irc> it fixes the village ownership at the start of 2p malets
20131021 21:59:49< Coffee_irc> and probably introduces a bug in the 2nd scenario of multiplayer campaigns
20131021 22:00:00< Coffee_irc> but I am aware of that
20131021 22:00:22< Coffee_irc> *2p hamlets
20131021 22:01:00< Soliton> thunderstruck: at least if it is indeed not a just loaded/started scenario choosing a new host would good. if it's easier always choosing a new host is fine too, i'd say.
20131021 22:01:40< un214> ever see a game hosted on server "modified client required"
20131021 22:01:54< Soliton> yes.
20131021 22:02:06< un214> what do you suppose that does to the auto-observer if the statement is true
20131021 22:02:35< Soliton> the what now?
20131021 22:02:36< thunderstruck> Soliton: unfortunatelly that's not an easy thing to do. The server destroys the game after host leaves in such case.
20131021 22:02:45< thunderstruck> But I'll see what I can do.
20131021 22:02:55< un214> "all observable games are recorded"
20131021 22:03:44< Soliton> it explodes in a blaze of fire?
20131021 22:04:00< Soliton> or it records the game if it's observable.
20131021 22:04:06< Soliton> one of the two.
20131021 22:04:26< un214> the game is observable, but without the client mods trying to observe it makes no sense
20131021 22:04:43< un214> a non-modified client would go OOS before turn 1
20131021 22:05:00< Soliton> why would the server care?
20131021 22:05:24< un214> the recorder might
20131021 22:05:53< Soliton> the server is the recorder.
20131021 22:06:51< thunderstruck> Coffee_irc: I think that now you also have a bug when the sides have starting villages, they will get randomly shuffled.
20131021 22:07:03< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: no
20131021 22:07:07< Coffee_irc> it works as intended
20131021 22:07:16< un214> it is possible to believe the recording component goes OOS
20131021 22:07:20< Coffee_irc> the implementation is a bit strange to me
20131021 22:07:25< Coffee_irc> but it works
20131021 22:07:54< Soliton> it is possible to believe anything, i believe. :-P
20131021 22:08:18< thunderstruck> Coffee_irc: Are you saying that it was intented that villages would be randomly assigned to any sides?
20131021 22:08:24< un214> it is also possible to believe the game is recorded but only a modified client can play it back
20131021 22:08:34< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: no, the village is awarded to the correct side
20131021 22:09:44< Soliton> un214: and that is infact how it works.
20131021 22:10:11< thunderstruck> Coffee_irc: Did you check test that a reasonable amount of times? You won't be able to see a bug everytime, since there's random involved.
20131021 22:11:21< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: it works
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20131021 22:12:44< thunderstruck> Coffee_irc: Strange. Maybe I don't remember something. Anyway, I have to leave.
20131021 22:12:49< thunderstruck> Good night.
20131021 22:12:54< Coffee_irc> night
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