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reporting. http://git.io/3pWUOg 20131029 11:04:29< Coffee_irc> boucman_work: done the debug print for animations 20131029 11:04:47< boucman_work> ok, good 20131029 11:05:19< Coffee_irc> boucman_work: I've thought a bit about the 'if' 'else' problem and I think I have a work around 20131029 11:05:35 * boucman_work is all ears 20131029 11:06:01< Coffee_irc> by having an anti-hits, anti-event, and-unit filter flag set in the code 20131029 11:06:28< Coffee_irc> and then flipping the result for a more generic else statement 20131029 11:06:44< Coffee_irc> so it still generates the appropriate frames 20131029 11:07:09< Coffee_irc> mathematically I believe it is possible to do, even with the unit_filter and such, nesting and combining 20131029 11:07:46< Coffee_irc> but it would require changing all 'else' in animation blocks to mean exclusive else 20131029 11:08:33< Coffee_irc> really what it should have been is 'or' instead 20131029 11:09:13< Coffee_irc> I'm happy to do an analysis of the units in core first, to make sure that it really wouldn't affect much 20131029 11:11:01< Coffee_irc> what I am thinking is replace all the current 'else' statements in the code with notional 'or' blocks 20131029 11:11:25< boucman_work> I'm not sure I understand, could you pastebin some example WML maybe ? 20131029 11:11:28< Coffee_irc> and use an exclusive 'else' for things like hits and directions, as intended for most animations 20131029 11:11:50< Coffee_irc> boucman_work: I can set up some examples in coder's corner on the forums maybe? 20131029 11:12:02< Coffee_irc> like for the square split? 20131029 11:12:26< boucman_work> I can't look at the forum from here, but bastebin is fine if it's just to discuss... 20131029 11:13:09< Coffee_irc> just a sec 20131029 11:14:37< Coffee_irc> http://pastebin.com/esSruFsD 20131029 11:14:58< Coffee_irc> ^ so you wouldn't have to say hits=no in the else statement 20131029 11:15:19< Coffee_irc> because anything that is an anti-match for the first 'if' gives a score of -1 20131029 11:18:52< Coffee_irc> http://pastebin.com/LHiN3hCh 20131029 11:19:21< Coffee_irc> ^this one with the current 'else' turned into 'or'. and an 'else' at the end that catches all the remaining animations 20131029 11:20:10< Coffee_irc> cool thing is that this can be done with score as well, so there are 2 possible implementations 20131029 11:23:45< Coffee_irc> I'm happy to dicuss this another time if you are busy at work and such 20131029 11:24:20-!- markus_ is now known as mjs-de 20131029 11:34:01-!- horon [~horon@nttkyo386211.tkyo.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 11:42:55-!- Kostic [~marko@85.202.113.206] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 11:53:37-!- Turuk [~Turuk@cpe-65-29-217-233.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 12:04:40-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 12:33:19-!- nurupo|away is now known as nurupo 20131029 13:07:45-!- Kostic [~marko@85.202.113.206] has quit [Quit: Kostic] 20131029 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Check now with the changes I just committed (as shown over in the other channel). I'm not done yet, but the error should be gone. 20131029 18:37:09< mattsc> AI0867: I thought I had removed all uses of the macro; and I had done so in mainline, but had forgotten about AI-demos. 20131029 18:47:46-!- zookeeper2 [~lmsnie@87-100-225-7.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 18:48:05-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20131029 18:48:09-!- zookeeper2 is now known as zookeeper 20131029 18:48:11-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@87-100-225-7.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Changing host] 20131029 18:48:11-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 19:11:02-!- molgrum [~molgrum@h-94-220.a230.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20131029 19:19:26-!- molgrum [~molgrum@h-94-220.a230.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 19:27:30-!- nurupo|away [~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20131029 19:30:23-!- nurupo|away [~nurupo.ga@biribiri.org] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 19:36:15-!- nurupo|away is now known as nurupo 20131029 19:36:24-!- nurupo [~nurupo.ga@biribiri.org] has quit [Changing host] 20131029 19:36:24-!- nurupo [~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 19:54:00-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 19:58:57-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20131029 20:00:01-!- molgrum [~molgrum@h-94-220.a230.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Lämnar] 20131029 20:00:20-!- molgrum [~molgrum@h-94-220.a230.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 20:05:17-!- thunderstruck [~zaibotren@cpc13-sgyl31-2-0-cust696.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20131029 20:10:43-!- thunderstruck [~zaibotren@cpc13-sgyl31-2-0-cust696.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 20:11:21-!- Vandal [Ganrao@cpe-65-189-245-210.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20131029 20:21:30-!- Vandal [Ganrao@cpe-65-189-245-210.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 20:51:35-!- iceiceice [~iceiceice@cpe-68-173-55-128.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20131029 20:51:53-!- Vandal [Ganrao@cpe-65-189-245-210.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20131029 20:56:26-!- Vandal [Ganrao@cpe-65-189-245-210.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 21:07:14-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 21:07:37-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Crendgrim, Upth, ToBeFree 20131029 21:10:58-!- Gambit [~derek@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 21:14:05-!- Netsplit over, joins: Crendgrim 20131029 21:14:29-!- Netsplit over, joins: Upth 20131029 21:20:42-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 21:23:55-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.112.25.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 21:26:43-!- Vandal [Ganrao@cpe-65-189-245-210.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20131029 21:32:52-!- ToBeFree [ToBeFree@unaffiliated/tobefree] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 21:34:36-!- Vandal [Ganrao@cpe-65-189-245-210.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 21:42:14-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 21:47:29-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20131029 22:03:46-!- thunderstruck [~zaibotren@cpc13-sgyl31-2-0-cust696.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20131029 22:05:50-!- Vandal [Ganrao@cpe-65-189-245-210.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20131029 22:07:03-!- Vandal [Ganrao@cpe-65-189-245-210.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 22:14:33-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 22:19:11-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20131029 22:24:03-!- fabi [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 22:34:31< fabi> zookeeper: Hello 20131029 22:34:52< fabi> I have a working prototype of generated terrain help topics. 20131029 22:34:58< fabi> But there are two problems. 20131029 22:35:37< fabi> The first one: In the main menu help there is no game map. And without a game map, no "encountered terrains". 20131029 22:36:01-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20131029 22:36:38< fabi> Thus, without extra work and finding a different "source" of terrains the main menu help section will stay empty. 20131029 22:37:35< fabi> It is so already for "factions" which only exist in MP. 20131029 22:39:24< fabi> Also, all terrain specific values in a unit's page are missing. The table which displays movement costs and defense value relies on the encountered terrains since ages. 20131029 22:41:14< fabi> The second problem is: Overlay terrains, those with strings like ^*, can never be on the list of "encountered terrains" because they can't exist in their pure form. 20131029 22:42:50< fabi> Every appearance of them is in terrains called "combined" (there is a difference to "mixed terrain"). 20131029 22:43:15< fabi> It makes much sense to mark help pages for the combined ones as hidden to avoid cluttering the help browser. 20131029 22:43:47< fabi> But that also denies the overlay terrains any accessible entries. 20131029 22:46:22< fabi> shadowm, AI0867 or anybody else who might have an idea or opinion ^ 20131029 22:48:32< fabi> Another idea: I think it makes a lot sense to group units into eras in the help browser in MP. 20131029 22:49:04-!- Vandal [Ganrao@cpe-65-189-245-210.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20131029 22:54:33-!- johndh-mobile [~yaaic@2601:7:8000:1ce:45a5:dfd9:9b66:68ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 22:57:49-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Quit: Távozom] 20131029 23:07:26-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Bye] 20131029 23:07:43-!- mattsc [~mattsc@BeaverNet-166.caltech.edu] has quit [Quit: Computer's napping] 20131029 23:12:29-!- Turuk [~Turuk@cpe-65-29-217-233.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Turuk] 20131029 23:17:36-!- mattsc [~mattsc@68-190-227-202.static.azus.ca.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 23:17:37-!- mattsc [~mattsc@68-190-227-202.static.azus.ca.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 20131029 23:19:54-!- Vandal [Ganrao@cpe-65-189-245-210.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 23:20:54-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 23:26:59-!- Coffee_irc [~david@ppp118-210-106-138.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20131029 23:47:12-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.112.25.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20131029 23:47:39-!- Coffee_irc [~david@ppp118-210-106-138.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 23:51:15-!- Vandal [Ganrao@cpe-65-189-245-210.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20131029 23:54:37-!- Linunix [52f680a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.246.128.162] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20131029 23:55:10-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20131029 23:55:25-!- Vandal [Ganrao@cpe-65-189-245-210.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131029 23:57:05-!- johndh-mobile [~yaaic@2601:7:8000:1ce:45a5:dfd9:9b66:68ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] --- Log closed Wed Oct 30 00:00:09 2013