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20131030 09:00:43< fabi> zookeeper: hi, did you read the logs?
20131030 09:00:48< zookeeper> yes
20131030 09:03:23< fabi> I am not quite sure where we want to go with the help browser.
20131030 09:04:21< zookeeper> yeah i don't know either, it's kinda complicated.
20131030 09:04:52< fabi> I can either go the way of disabling more of the terrain information, being in sync with the unit descriptions which avoid terrain specific information since ages. Assuming that you call the help in a situation with no loaded map.
20131030 09:05:01< zookeeper> and i got most of my brain cycles invested elsewhere right now so i can't really think very in-depth about it
20131030 09:05:16< fabi> no problem, take your time.
20131030 09:05:30< fabi> I will just make sure that you have all the information.
20131030 09:06:51< fabi> Another solution would to have a fake map. One that is just there to be used by the help generator to get information about terrain.
20131030 09:07:09< fabi> It can be empty.
20131030 09:07:31< fabi> This would allow me to display all kind of terrain information all the time.
20131030 09:08:22< zookeeper> so is this map thing about the terrain help in general, or just the possible map-snippets-rendered-in-the-browser thing i suggested?
20131030 09:08:38< fabi> terrain help in general
20131030 09:08:41< zookeeper> right
20131030 09:08:54< fabi> The only "thing" in the game that knows about the terrains is a map.
20131030 09:09:19< fabi> No other part of Wesnoth ever touches the [terrain_type] wml.
20131030 09:09:32< zookeeper> well, sounds like a fake map would be the simple workaround then
20131030 09:09:48< fabi> Yes, I agree.
20131030 09:10:05< fabi> If the goal is to reveal every information in the main menu, then yes.
20131030 09:10:54< fabi> I can still find a way to respect the "encountered terrains" whose are saved in the user's preferences.
20131030 09:11:38< zookeeper> i dunno which way is better, but i guess the safer way for now would be to respect the encountered terrains list
20131030 09:12:10< fabi> I will net respect it regarding overlay terrains.
20131030 09:12:13< fabi> not
20131030 09:12:24< fabi> Since a overlay terrain can never be on the list.
20131030 09:12:37< zookeeper> fair enough
20131030 09:13:33< fabi> And I will need some help with cleaning our terrain definitions.
20131030 09:13:46< fabi> Alarantalara seems to be not around at the moment.
20131030 09:14:34< fabi> It makes a lot of sense for every forest terrain to be an overlay only for example.
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20131030 12:17:45< vultraz> wesbot: seen lipkab
20131030 12:17:45< wesbot> vultraz: The person with the nick lipkab last spoke 5d 1h ago.  13h 19m ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth with the message: Quit: Távozom
20131030 12:17:50< vultraz> :/
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20131030 16:59:37< irker102> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master b826e5ead515 / data/ai/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Micro AIs: make recruit_rushers work with new external CA method http://git.io/EWZ6TA
20131030 16:59:37< irker102> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 4e68b4eaa211 / data/ai/micro_ais/scenarios/recruiting.cfg: Recruiting MAI test scenario: add Rush Recruitment MAI for Side 2 http://git.io/xHbQ7Q
20131030 16:59:37< irker102> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 3989b4e14061 / data/ai/lua/generic_rush_engine.lua: Experimental AI: make Healer Placement CA work with new external CAs http://git.io/NPRgwQ
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20131030 18:03:17< irker102> wesnoth: anonymissimus wesnoth-old:master b2f3cf98a5c9 / projectfiles/VC9/wesnoth.vcproj: vc project update http://git.io/QXRA8Q
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20131030 19:00:36< fabi> Hi Jetrel, please let me remind you once more of the new elf artwork :-)
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20131030 19:04:16< fabi> s/of/on ?
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20131030 19:55:14< irker102> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master e469df1d5084 / data/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Move and rename [micro_ai] tag setup file http://git.io/emepYg
20131030 19:55:16< irker102> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 1d488a2c35a7 / data/ai/micro_ais/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Rename ai/micro_ais/ais/ to ai/micro_ais/engines/ http://git.io/RmNzeQ
20131030 20:04:00< fabi> hi mattsc
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20131030 20:07:52< mattsc> hi fabi 
20131030 20:14:15< irker102> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master e18378369bd5 / data/ai/lua/ai_helper.lua: ai_helper: remove unused function ai_helper.got_1_11() http://git.io/AoexMg
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20131030 23:03:57< iceiceice> wesbot: seen fendrin?
20131030 23:03:57< wesbot> iceiceice: Person, who was using the nick fendrin 20d 6h ago, last spoke 2h 59m ago.  is now known as fabi here and on the channels #wesnoth, #wesnoth-de and #wesnoth-umc-dev.
20131030 23:04:16< fabi> iceiceice: hi
20131030 23:04:20-!- fabi is now known as fendrin
20131030 23:04:21< iceiceice> hi :)
20131030 23:04:26< iceiceice> i wanted to enquire about a certain bug
20131030 23:04:34< iceiceice> *
20131030 23:04:40< iceiceice> feature request that is
20131030 23:04:48< iceiceice> slow thinker asked about full featured tunnels: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?19682#discussion
20131030 23:05:48< iceiceice> it says you thought about it but postponed it
20131030 23:06:18< iceiceice> idk i think it would be a nice feature
20131030 23:10:34< fendrin> Yes I agree.
20131030 23:11:01< fendrin> I will work on the request but most likely not for 1.12.
20131030 23:15:14< iceiceice> i see just curious 
20131030 23:15:16< iceiceice> thanks :)
20131030 23:19:23< fendrin> :-)
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