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20131107 00:33:29< justinzane> There seems to have been an "OVERRIDE" macro instead of just "override" that I managed to stomp on. What was the purpose of that?
20131107 00:34:53< shadowm> It's a conditional wrapping a C+11 keyword where available.
20131107 00:35:09< shadowm> !file src/global.hpp
20131107 00:35:09< shikadibot> shadowm: Web interface URL to file src/global.hpp: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/blob/master/src/global.hpp
20131107 00:39:03< justinzane> shadowm: thanks. did not remeber that override was 11 only
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20131107 03:32:53< irker199> wesnoth: Alarantalara wesnoth-old:master 27cd8e6cf88c / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: Simplify filters excluding dust devils and flesh golems http://git.io/52DINw
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20131107 04:10:45< irker199> wesnoth: Alarantalara wesnoth-old:master 3567d63852e6 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/ (8 files): UtBS: Remove obsolete ai keys http://git.io/GJTv2A
20131107 04:16:35< irker199> wesnoth: Alarantalara wesnoth-old:master d27769dcac09 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: Remove obsolete AI keys from UtBS:8 http://git.io/PEvMyw
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20131107 10:19:25< lipkab> fabi: Even if that line's a bit unclear, the rest of the description makes it obvious enough.
20131107 10:20:31< lipkab> (But, of course, you're always welcome to propose a better description)
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20131107 11:07:25< bumbadadabum> zookeeper: Can you look at https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/pull/81?
20131107 11:09:03< zookeeper> bumbadadabum, what are the resulting differences in resistances for the chocobone and death knight?
20131107 11:09:11< zookeeper> s/differences/changes
20131107 11:09:12< bumbadadabum> zookeeper: Look at the diff
20131107 11:09:21< bumbadadabum> +    [resistance]
20131107 11:09:21< bumbadadabum>  +        blade=60
20131107 11:09:21< bumbadadabum>  +        impact=120
20131107 11:09:21< bumbadadabum>  +        pierce=40
20131107 11:09:21< bumbadadabum>  +    [/resistance]
20131107 11:09:32< bumbadadabum> aka what the skeleton has
20131107 11:09:40< bumbadadabum> more extreme resists and weaknesses
20131107 11:09:46< zookeeper> i don't know what they were before
20131107 11:10:45< bumbadadabum>             blade=90
20131107 11:10:45< bumbadadabum>             pierce=70
20131107 11:10:45< bumbadadabum>             impact=110
20131107 11:10:45< bumbadadabum>             fire=120
20131107 11:10:45< bumbadadabum>             cold=40
20131107 11:10:45< bumbadadabum>             arcane=150
20131107 11:11:12< bumbadadabum> Those resists are the lich's
20131107 11:11:18< bumbadadabum> and Familiar's
20131107 11:11:48< bumbadadabum> not really suited for an armored skeleton in my opinion
20131107 11:11:53< zookeeper> so chocobone basically just gets -10 blade?
20131107 11:12:12< bumbadadabum> the chocobone gets an entirely different movetype
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20131107 11:12:27< zookeeper> dude, i know
20131107 11:12:34< zookeeper> i was asking what the difference in resistances will be
20131107 11:12:50< bumbadadabum> yes
20131107 11:13:02< bumbadadabum> also, I forgot a little thing
20131107 11:13:12< bumbadadabum> forgot to set movement in deep water to 4
20131107 11:13:44< bumbadadabum> or 3 rather
20131107 11:13:56< bumbadadabum> (I always though they had 4 movement in deep water, weird)
20131107 11:15:05< zookeeper> so any particular reason for the chocobone's -10 blade?
20131107 11:15:29< bumbadadabum> I copied the resistances over from the skeleton rider
20131107 11:16:23< bumbadadabum> although I might tweak them a bit
20131107 11:16:36< bumbadadabum> since this one is using a different mount
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20131107 14:48:02< justinzane> Silly question, but is support for distcc/ccache hidden in the CMakeLists.txt somewhere?
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20131107 15:05:53< justinzane> Along those lines, Wesnoth has 2 build systems, SCons and CMake. Which is the "generally preferred", "most used", 
20131107 15:06:04< justinzane> of the two?
20131107 15:06:23< bumbadadabum> I prefer scons, but idk which one is the generally preferred one
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20131107 15:47:47< AI0867> justinzane: both are used quite a lot, though I picked scons for the automated build (because I use it myself)
20131107 15:48:01< AI0867> both were added as possible replacements for the old autotools system
20131107 15:48:14< justinzane> bumbadadabum: So do I. I wanted to entertain myself with Google's "include-what-you-use" and it, as well as many other of the LLVM/clang tools seem to assume that you've got cmake. So, I'm trying to get CMake to work for me like SCons does.
20131107 15:48:19< AI0867> so we went from 1 outdated build system to 1 outdated build system and 2 new ones
20131107 15:48:36< AI0867> it took more than a year before we finally retired autotools
20131107 15:49:13< justinzane> That seems to be common -- adding new without deprecating/removing old.
20131107 15:49:49< AI0867> justinzane: I use ccache with scons. I don't know if it's supported in cmake
20131107 15:50:19< justinzane> I've been using distcc with SCons and cannot get it to work with CMake yet.
20131107 15:50:59< justinzane> For my, distcc is the difference between 120sec rebuilds and 15 min rebuilds
20131107 15:51:16< justinzane> sed 's/my/me/'
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20131107 16:42:23< anonymissimus> wesbot: #bug 18713
20131107 16:42:38< anonymissimus> wesbot: bug #18713
20131107 16:42:38< wesbot> Bug #18713  Assigned to: J Tyne <jamit>  Status: Fixed  Priority: 5 - Normal
20131107 16:42:41< wesbot> Summary: Creating a WML event handler inside another and firing it immediately afterwards does not work
20131107 16:42:44< wesbot> Original submission: In the mainline test scenario, the following code additio
20131107 16:42:47< wesbot> n, which should result in an empty map with no units after all other prestart ev
20131107 16:42:50< wesbot> URL: http://gna.org/bugs/?18713
20131107 16:53:47< anonymissimus> jamit: MSVC doesn't like you initializing a size_t with -1, what about using UINT_MAX instead ?
20131107 16:54:15< anonymissimus> (size_t = unsigned int)
20131107 16:56:49< anonymissimus> orther than that static_cast<size_t>(-1) also works
20131107 16:57:20< anonymissimus> or perhaps you better make it a signed type
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20131107 18:26:10< mattsc> gfgtdf: hi.  You wrote the hotkeys system for right-click menu items, right?
20131107 18:26:30< gfgtdf> mattsc: yes
20131107 18:26:48< mattsc> I like it a lot, but I might have found 2 issues with it.  Or maybe I am just too stupid to use them correctly.
20131107 18:26:56< gfgtdf> mattsc: ok tell me
20131107 18:28:01< mattsc> First, the hotkey assignments don't seem to be persistent over save/load cycles.  The option still shows up in the hotkeys dialog after loading a savegame, but without an assigned hotkey.
20131107 18:28:48< mattsc> Second, it would be nice to have the hotkey show up in the right-click menu when using it.  I see it for all the default items, but not for my custom-made ones.
20131107 18:29:00< mattsc> *I see them ...
20131107 18:29:27< gfgtdf> mattsc: the hotkeys are saved in the game prefereces not in the savegame files, no normaly they should be independent from save/load
20131107 18:30:11< gfgtdf> mattsc: if you save the game and then load it are the hotkeys presitent in this caase ?
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20131107 18:30:17< mattsc> gfgtdf: no
20131107 18:31:25< gfgtdf> mattsc: hmm it should be, i'll think about it but it could take some timme becasue i currently dont have teh wesnoth source on this pc
20131107 18:31:34< gfgtdf> s/timme/time
20131107 18:31:39< mattsc> gfgtdf: I thought at first it's because I am doing weird things with Lua and debug mode etc., but then I put a very simply right-click item with hotkey into the first scenario of SotBE, and it didn't stay either after a load.
20131107 18:31:55< mattsc> gfgtdf: sure, there's no rush
20131107 18:32:06< gfgtdf> mattsc: did you use default_hotkeys ?
20131107 18:32:11< mattsc> gfgtdf: yes
20131107 18:32:44< gfgtdf> mattsc: how ? so the default hotkey is reaplied after the load ?
20131107 18:33:29< gfgtdf> mattsc: ir is the menu item unassigned after the load
20131107 18:34:24< mattsc> mattsc: no, the menu item is there (and works), and it shows up in the hotkeys dialog, but without a hotkey assigned to it.
20131107 18:34:50< mattsc> gfgtdf: I think I had this in a start event.  Is that a problem?
20131107 18:36:10< gfgtdf> gfgtdf: i think i have used tzhe prestart event for testing but i this shoudl work in all events.
20131107 18:36:51< mattsc> gfgtdf: let me just recreate my test code quickly, then you can try it yourself.
20131107 18:37:26< gfgtdf> ok
20131107 18:38:46< mattsc> gfgtdf: http://pastebin.com/c5YXrmGW
20131107 18:39:16< mattsc> Replace the existing start event in SotBE S1 with this.  Play to Turn 2, reload the T2 autosave.
20131107 18:39:40< mattsc> The menu item (using right click) before and after saving works, but the hotkey only works before.
20131107 18:40:58< mattsc> gfgtdf: what about my second issue?  Should the hotkey be displayed in the content menu?
20131107 18:42:15< gfgtdf> mattsc: i tgink that would be useful, but it isnt implemented.
20131107 18:42:19< gfgtdf> think*
20131107 18:45:45< mattsc> gfgtdf: okay, no worries on the second issue (although it would be nice to have), but the first one makes the hotkeys unusable for my purpose.
20131107 18:46:02< gfgtdf> mattsc: ye that is a serious bug
20131107 18:46:39< gfgtdf> mattsc: and "Replace the existing start event in SotBE S1 with this. Play to Turn 2, reload the T2 autosave." is all you did?
20131107 18:46:58< mattsc> yes, that's the entire process
20131107 18:47:35< mattsc> started the campaign from the main menu, tested the hotkey on Turn 1, ended the turn without doing anything, tested on T2, reloaded, tested again.
20131107 18:49:48< gfgtdf> mattsc: if you play to turn 2 then clode the game and then load the autosave does it work in that case ?
20131107 18:49:54< gfgtdf> close*
20131107 18:50:40< mattsc> gfgtdf: no  (just tried)
20131107 18:51:26< mattsc> gfgtdf: by the way, you don't even have to go to Turn 2 for this, it works with the Turn 1 save just as well.  I just went to T2 to make sure it wasn't something weird to do with T1.
20131107 18:51:39< mattsc> Well, or rather: it doesn't work on T1 either
20131107 18:51:46< gfgtdf> mattsc: hmm seems like the hotkeys are not saved like they should be
20131107 18:52:06< mattsc> gfgtdf: have you tried to reproduce it yet?
20131107 18:52:30< gfgtdf> mattsc: i have no wesnoth source (and no trunk version) on this pc currently
20131107 18:53:08< mattsc> You don't need the source for this (it's all in the data/ directory), but I guess you do need a trunk version.
20131107 18:53:56< gfgtdf> mattsc: can you look at your userdata/preferences file and search for the string m01_test (the id of your meu item) ?
20131107 18:55:40< mattsc> gfgtdf: it's not in there
20131107 18:57:28< gfgtdf> mattsc: does chaning the normal (non wml nmenu) hotkeys work ?
20131107 18:57:29< mattsc> There isn't an auto-save hotkeys option or something that I might have disabled, is there?
20131107 18:58:57< gfgtdf> mattsc: i tihnk not
20131107 18:59:48< mattsc> gfgtdf: yes, it does.  I added a hotkey to one of the default options, reloaded, shut down and restarted, and it always remains there.
20131107 19:01:20< mattsc> gfgtdf: and shows up in the preferences file.  I also tried the custom hotkey again after doing that, but no change.
20131107 19:02:51< mattsc> gfgtdf: I have to move on to non-Wesnoth stuff.  Whenever you get around to this will be good.  In the meantime, I will just have to deal with the enormous inconvenience of actually clicking on the menu items.  :D
20131107 19:04:10< gfgtdf> mattsc: according to the current source it seems likethe hotkeys are only saved after you change the hotkeys in the preferences but are loaded before each scenario start/load. that could explain this bug
20131107 19:05:35< mattsc> gfgtdf: ah, interesting, and yes, I just confirmed this.
20131107 19:05:55< mattsc> I started the scenario, then changed one of the default hotkeys in the dialog.
20131107 19:06:16< mattsc> After that, the menu option hotkey persists.  So I have a working work-around now.  :)
20131107 19:06:48< gfgtdf> mattsc: github says: "forked repositories are not currently searchable"  :( :(
20131107 19:11:40< mattsc> gfgtdf: I just confirmed that that work-around also works for my AI CA debugging mode, so I am set for now  (although it should probably be fixed at some point)
20131107 19:11:58< mattsc> I really need to be off now though.  TTYL.
20131107 19:12:06< gfgtdf> bb
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20131107 20:01:11< fabi> justinzane: Scons is more used and maybe even slightly better maintained.
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20131107 20:01:47< thunderstruck> Hi lipkab. Are you aware that your recent changes to mp::create have broken the window on lower resolutions?
20131107 20:01:58< fabi> justinzane: What people use depends mostly on their developing setups. Cmake supports the creation of Eclipse projects more easily for example.
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20131107 20:37:13< irker230> wesnoth: Andrius Silinskas wesnoth-old:master 51299adce01a / src/flg_manager.cpp: Use "random_leader" only when resolving random. http://git.io/hZyX-w
20131107 20:37:20< thunderstruck> Coffee_irc: ^
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20131107 20:38:57< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: cheers, looks like it works for me
20131107 20:39:17< thunderstruck> You're fast :)
20131107 20:39:41< thunderstruck> That was fast.
20131107 20:39:41< wesbot> thunderstruck: Sometimes we are fast
20131107 20:39:45< Coffee_irc> I've got popups and a sound when my irc name comes up :)
20131107 20:40:24< thunderstruck> (I like this wesbot response)
20131107 20:40:38< Coffee_irc> yeah, not bad
20131107 20:41:10< thunderstruck> So, I'll mark the bug as fixed.
20131107 20:43:07 * thunderstruck thinks that we could use a more user-friendly bug tracker
20131107 20:43:28< bumbadadabum> I personally prefer the github issue tracker to the gna bug tracker
20131107 20:43:48< Coffee_irc> I don't know, I quite like the GNA bug tracker
20131107 20:44:03-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: current repo: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old (Please read the dev-ml for the latest status!) | 198 bugs, 343 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20131107 20:44:06< Coffee_irc> problem for me is that the certificate is self-signed and an error pops up in firefox
20131107 20:44:36< Coffee_irc> for the whole gna site
20131107 20:47:13< thunderstruck> Yeah, that's part of user-friendliness issue.
20131107 20:49:41< fabi> thunderstruck: Yes, we have discussed to change the tracker with the git conversion. Redmine is one of the candidates for example.
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20131107 20:50:21< lipkab> bumbadadabum: Sorry :(
20131107 20:50:34< bumbadadabum> lipkab: no problem
20131107 20:51:59< fabi> hi lipkab
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20131107 21:26:46< gfgtdf> wesbot: seem jamit
20131107 21:26:55< gfgtdf> wesbot: senn jamit
20131107 21:27:01< gfgtdf> wesbot: seen jamit
20131107 21:27:01< wesbot> gfgtdf: The person with the nick jamit last spoke 3d 22h ago.  3d 14h ago they left with the message: Quit: Leaving.
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20131107 21:27:21< shadowm> It's useful to stop and read before pressing Enter.
20131107 21:28:16< gfgtdf> shadowm: but it worked like this too.
20131107 21:29:02< shadowm> After two attempts.
20131107 21:29:10< gfgtdf> ye
20131107 21:29:29< shadowm> That means it didn't work for the first two attempts.
20131107 21:29:51< gfgtdf> but in total it worked at least once
20131107 21:30:13< shadowm> You wrote three lines instead of one.
20131107 21:30:54< bumbadadabum> shadowm: Hey, everyone makes mistakes
20131107 21:31:05< bumbadadabum> shadowm: I bet I could make a list of times YOU made a typo
20131107 21:31:22< shadowm> Habit vs. accident.
20131107 21:52:36< gfgtdf> wesbot: seen mattsc
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20131107 22:20:33< gfgtdf> mattsc: do you have time ?
20131107 22:21:07< mattsc> gfgtdf: Hi.  A little, but not a whole lot.
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20131107 22:23:05< gfgtdf> mattsc: i think this will fix the problem with the default hotkeys: http://pastebin.com/ZsqYfDVP but i cannot commit it now, so i'd be happy if you'd do it
20131107 22:23:44< gfgtdf> mattsc: if commit_wmi_commands is changed like that.
20131107 22:24:56< mattsc> gfgtdf: cool, thanks.  I cannot do that right now, but I can test it and commit it if it works tonight.
20131107 22:25:42< gfgtdf> mattsc: ok ty
20131107 22:26:01< mattsc> gfgtdf: how long until you think you'll be back to being able to commit things?  I can wait (since I have a work-around).
20131107 22:26:07< mattsc> gfgtdf: no, thank you.  :)
20131107 22:28:28< gfgtdf> mattsc: theoreticly i could make a pull request imidiately with the github web editor, but that way i couldnt test it.
20131107 22:29:01< gfgtdf> mattsc: no myabe i couldnt event do that if ma forked repo isnt up to date
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20131107 22:30:01< mattsc> gfgtdf: I really don't mind one way or the other (committing it myself tonight, or waiting until you're back in action), just let me know which you prefer.
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20131107 23:47:31< irker230> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth-old:master 2fc2f875e705 / data/core/about.cfg: add me to about.cfg http://git.io/cYffKA
20131107 23:52:19< shadowm> gfgtdf: You have commit access now?
20131107 23:52:35< shadowm> Why was I not informed of this? Do you want to be added to the Developers group in the forums?
20131107 23:53:14< gfgtdf> shadowm: hm sure.
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