--- Log opened Sun Nov 17 00:00:04 2013 20131117 00:07:57< gfgtdf> SigurdFD: no im no git expert i think Soliton knows about git, is there any special relation between that bug and git ? 20131117 00:09:22< SigurdFD> I could troubleshoot it using git as a timemachine, but between the commits in quesion, my method of troubleshooting (running a mapgen) doesn't work because of changes to the map format. 20131117 00:10:34< SigurdFD> I'm looking to create an alt timeline of the commits in question, but without the map format changes. Thus I could bisect & compile until I found the right spot. 20131117 00:16:16-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 00:22:35-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has quit [Quit: Smell ya later!] 20131117 00:35:59-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 00:37:50-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has quit [Client Quit] 20131117 00:43:34-!- nurupo [~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo] has quit [Quit: sasl test] 20131117 00:44:08-!- nurupo [~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 01:13:54-!- happygrue [~happygrue@c-66-30-155-184.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 01:13:54-!- happygrue [~happygrue@c-66-30-155-184.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 20131117 01:13:54-!- happygrue [~happygrue@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 01:26:33-!- mattsc [~mattsc@154.20.32.246] has quit [Quit: Ciao] 20131117 01:58:58-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20131117 01:59:07-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@d110127.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 20131117 02:15:06-!- happygrue [~happygrue@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20131117 02:34:04-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20131117 02:35:36-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 03:22:02-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-253-192.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 03:26:51-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@x2f4eb44.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 03:30:28-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20131117 03:30:45-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20131117 04:05:02-!- irker681 [~irker@ai0867.net] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20131117 04:14:25-!- Chusslove [~Chusslove@unaffiliated/chusslove] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20131117 04:18:02-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-253-192.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20131117 04:36:05-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@192-0-128-11.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20131117 04:44:05-!- Chusslove [~Chusslove@unaffiliated/chusslove] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 04:44:07< shadowm> "User interface has been improved to act better upon these changes and now it supports different types of level selection and difficulties dialog for campaigns." 20131117 04:44:44< shadowm> Re multiplayer campaigns. I can't make heads or tails of the last part of that sentence. 20131117 04:45:27< shadowm> Oooo, grammar errors. 20131117 04:47:55< shadowm> mattsc: "[b]As a result of the recruitment changes, some scenarios may have become somewhat unbalanced. Feedback about how the new recruitment engine affects the gameplay in scenarios is needed.[/b]" Does this affect single-player as well? 20131117 05:00:59< shadowm> I have made the announcement draft available on Moderators'. 20131117 05:01:15< shadowm> If anyone has anything to say about it, you've got 1 hour. 20131117 05:05:34-!- knotwork [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 05:05:48-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@x2f4eb44.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Changing host] 20131117 05:05:48-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 05:12:17< shadowm> Front page announcement draft available here: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=562706#p562706 20131117 05:19:51-!- Gambit [~derek@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20131117 05:31:13-!- mattsc [~mattsc@154.20.32.246] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 05:32:13< mattsc> shadowm: that's flix' announcement, not mine; but yes, it affects both MP and SP 20131117 05:33:22< mattsc> In fact, I believe the intention of that statement is to refer mostly to SP scenarios 20131117 05:34:06< shadowm> Okay, added a bit noting it applies to both. 20131117 05:36:38-!- horon [~horon@nttkyo210231.tkyo.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 05:36:47-!- tomreyn [~tomreyn@megaglest/team/tomreyn] has quit [Quit: tomreyn] 20131117 05:37:10-!- irker328 [~irker@ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 05:37:10< irker328> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master e072ab691f84 / changelog players_changelog src/wesconfig.h: Post-release version bump to 1.11.7+dev http://git.io/5Wx6uw 20131117 05:37:13< irker328> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 953fb32e1f81 / Doxyfile: Bump Doxyfile version number http://git.io/iupqUQ 20131117 05:40:44< shadowm> Ivanovic: ^ (Although I imagine you're already gone by now.) 20131117 05:49:36< shadowm> AI0867, gfgtdf, thunderstruck, Coffee_irc, whoever else cares: The 1.11 and trunk wesnothds on wesnoth.org are now running the latest code. 20131117 06:00:03< mattsc> shadowm: I read both the front page announcement and the release notes drafts. That's an impressive list of release notes! They both look good to me, I just have one minor grammar comment: 20131117 06:00:37< mattsc> to allow goes either with gerund, or with object plus infinitive (at least in the part of the English speaking world that I live in) 20131117 06:01:22< mattsc> In other words, it's: 'allow me to use something' or 'allow the use of'. That appears in two parts of the release notes. 20131117 06:01:48-!- Guest15226 is now known as _8680_ 20131117 06:02:31< mattsc> As in, it appears (incorrectly as far as I know as) as 'allow to use' in two places. 20131117 06:03:18< mattsc> ... but you might want to confirm that with somebody who's actually a native English speaker before taking my word for it. :P 20131117 06:11:06< _8680_> I’ll confirm that about “allow”. 20131117 06:11:58< _8680_> “allowing to use the same campaign” should be “allowing the same campaign to be used”; “allow to change the neutral sorting criterion” should be “allow the neutral sorting criterion to be changed”. 20131117 06:17:15< _8680_> Also, would it not be better for the Game Paths dialog example to show user data in a more normal location than /tmp? Or would that be infeasible for a Wesnoth instance running out of its source tree, as that appears to be? 20131117 06:21:04< shadowm> _8680_: Why would it be unfeasible? 20131117 06:21:23< _8680_> I wouldn’t know whether it is. 20131117 06:21:25< shadowm> I don't think it needs to be changed since it's just an example. 20131117 06:21:46< shadowm> "allowing to use" -- I didn't write that. 20131117 06:22:45< shadowm> "e new options allow changing the neutral sorting criterion" better¡ 20131117 06:22:58< shadowm> Er, "The new options allow changing the neutral sorting criterion" -- better? 20131117 06:23:06< _8680_> Yes. 20131117 06:23:22< shadowm> That sounded like sleep-deprived me or something. 20131117 06:25:02-!- SigurdFD [SigurdFD@24.154.98.89] has quit [] 20131117 06:31:28-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-253-192.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 06:32:44< shadowm> 1.11.x wesnothd versions_accepted config updated, announcement posted, front page updated. 20131117 06:33:04-!- shadowm changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 194 bugs, 345 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! 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It does tend to mail people subscribed to the repository notifications, but I'd encourage you to use it if you aren't exactly sure of your changes yet. 20131117 12:29:03< elias> python.org recommends "python" for version 2.x and "python3" for 3.x executables 20131117 12:29:17-!- tomreyn [~tomreyn@megaglest/team/tomreyn] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 12:29:27< elias> and almost all distributions follow that recommendation 20131117 12:30:25< elias> some others wanted to accelerate porting to 3 and just named the 3.x one python 20131117 12:31:15< elias> personally, I'd actually say we should run the scripts through the 2to3 conversion and require python3 :) 20131117 12:34:20-!- Gambit [~derek@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 12:46:17< Melkon> hello, can someone help me how to find something in the code? 20131117 12:46:31< Melkon> i want to fix that "hide the hourglass item from the statusbar when there is no timer " 20131117 12:46:40< Melkon> but i had no result when i searched for hourglass or statusbar 20131117 12:57:13-!- lipkab2 [~the_new_l@apn-151-0-97-103.vodafone.hu] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 20131117 13:09:06-!- Kostic [~marko@net232-1-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 13:13:47-!- Kostic [~marko@net232-1-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20131117 13:14:14-!- Kostic [~marko@net232-1-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 13:18:00-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@192-0-128-11.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 13:24:07-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 13:28:46< Soliton> the file name is sand-clock.png. 20131117 13:39:17-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@46.246.45.46] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 13:39:17-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@46.246.45.46] has quit [Changing host] 20131117 13:39:17-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 13:40:50-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20131117 13:42:42-!- stikonas_ is now known as stikonas 20131117 14:01:43-!- lobby [~wesnoth@wesnoth/bot/lobby] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 14:01:43-!- Topic for #wesnoth-dev: 194 bugs, 345 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! 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I'm getting these errors in the editor, making all terrain icons an "image not found" 20131117 15:10:01< fabi> bumbadadabum: Thanks, I am already on it. 20131117 15:10:17< bumbadadabum> ok 20131117 15:23:56< vultraz> double /terrain :P 20131117 15:24:11< bumbadadabum> and double png 20131117 15:29:29-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@f048076193.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20131117 15:33:48-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@f048076193.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 16:12:06-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@f048076193.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20131117 16:13:32-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@f048076193.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 16:14:30-!- happygrue [~happygrue@c-66-30-155-184.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 16:14:30-!- happygrue [~happygrue@c-66-30-155-184.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 20131117 16:14:30-!- happygrue [~happygrue@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 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overhaul LordBob and me are working on but a version that can go into 1.12 and bring editor and game in sync again. 20131117 18:00:31< bumbadadabum> fabi: I don't know about it... 20131117 18:00:35< _8680_> Why the box around the End Turn button? 20131117 18:00:40< bumbadadabum> It seems too... big 20131117 18:00:52< bumbadadabum> too much empty space 20131117 18:03:10< fabi> bumbadadabum: You talk about the box around the "End Turn" button as well? 20131117 18:03:22< bumbadadabum> fabi: The entire sidebar 20131117 18:04:20< fabi> The space right to the TOD image will contain some related information soon. 20131117 18:04:29< bumbadadabum> ok 20131117 18:05:02< vultraz> fabi: yes, the box around the End Turn button looks..big 20131117 18:05:03< fabi> And the extra space in the horizontal is fine for longer weapon names or general names of traits, abilities, weapon specials, whatever. 20131117 18:05:15< vultraz> fabi: unless LordBob will make a new ET button for 1.12? 20131117 18:05:24< vultraz> that one is still in the old style- it will clash 20131117 18:05:31< fabi> The box is a stub, and I guess the ET button is so as well. 20131117 18:05:50< bumbadadabum> fabi: Eh 20131117 18:05:59< bumbadadabum> In regular wesnoth, that's not really an issue 20131117 18:06:05< bumbadadabum> the horizontal space 20131117 18:06:27< fabi> I will ask LordBob about doing replacements for both. 20131117 18:07:01-!- R2D2C3PO [57a14907@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.161.73.7] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 18:09:02< fabi> bumbadadabum: That is only true if you look at the English gui. The translations have problems to fit into the space. 20131117 18:09:16< bumbadadabum> perhaps 20131117 18:09:23< Alarantalara> If that slider responds to key presses I will be very unhappy. I don't want to zoom while scrolling the map 20131117 18:09:51< Alarantalara> otherwise I like the general feel 20131117 18:10:39< fabi> The slider still responds to key presses (like the one in the editor gui) but that is a bug which will be fixed before the stable release. 20131117 18:11:40< fabi> And the buttons around the minimap are not final. The game will onle keep the "default zoom" one, positioned right next to the slider. 20131117 18:11:54< fabi> The other buttons will control how the minimap works. 20131117 18:15:29< shadowm> jamit: Are you in the process of closing bugs fixed in the release? 20131117 18:15:45< shadowm> Because that's a thing I forgot to do last night. 20131117 18:17:05< jamit> shadowm: I only closed mine. 20131117 18:17:42< shadowm> ... Okay, that works too. I'll deal with the rest. 20131117 18:17:44< jamit> shadowm: I could take a look at the rest if you want. I just remembered because I took a look at the "assigned to me" list. 20131117 18:19:19< shadowm> Either you had a huge number of bugs assigned to you or people didn't fix a lot of bugs for this release. 20131117 18:27:12< shadowm> lipkab: Re: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?21252#comment2, github can't talk to gna.org, not sure what you expected to work there? 20131117 18:34:37< shadowm> fabi: What's the situation with https://gna.org/patch/index.php?3972 ? 20131117 18:35:39< fabi> shadowm: Like the bug reports says: "None". I have had no look at it yet. 20131117 18:36:11< shadowm> fabi: It's not a "bug reports". 20131117 18:36:23< shadowm> Also, shame on you. 20131117 18:37:20-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 18:39:53< lipkab> shadowm: For some reason I thought that we can link commit messages to bugs like in the good old SVN days :( 20131117 18:40:05< lipkab> So that's not the case, apparently. 20131117 18:40:22< bumbadadabum> shadowm: Why don't we use the git issue tracker, actually? 20131117 18:41:04< lipkab> 'Cause it's not good enough. 20131117 18:41:09< bumbadadabum> Why? 20131117 18:41:17< lipkab> I have no clue. 20131117 18:41:25< lipkab> ...but people say so. 20131117 18:41:45< bumbadadabum> it seems to have the same features as the gna bug tracker 20131117 18:41:51< bumbadadabum> but it's more unified 20131117 18:41:54< bumbadadabum> and allows labeling 20131117 18:42:03< bumbadadabum> and better sorting 20131117 18:42:26 * lipkab shrugs 20131117 18:42:43< lipkab> I'm not the guy to convince. 20131117 18:43:10< bumbadadabum> lipkab: I'm indirectly asking for others' opinions 20131117 18:45:04< shadowm> I have never used the GitHub issue tracker (the Git issue tracker is a mailing list). 20131117 18:47:52< shadowm> All fixed bugs are closed now. 20131117 18:49:17< vultraz> The GH one has a nicer interface, for one :P 20131117 18:49:41< shadowm> If you must discuss this, please keep it objective and use the mailing list. 20131117 18:50:04< bumbadadabum> I might bring it up in the ML 20131117 18:51:57< lipkab> bumbadadabum: Well, actually, it *is* the plan to leave Gna and self-host the bug tracker. 20131117 18:52:23< shadowm> It was the plan, at least. Nobody has done a single thing to make it happen. 20131117 18:52:30< vultraz> I don't see the point of that when we have aperfectly good one right here 20131117 18:52:54< vultraz> Plus, AI0867 has already suggested we use GH's release system as opposed to Sf. Why not keep everything in one place? 20131117 18:53:52-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc1-finc14-2-0-cust12.4-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: DCW] 20131117 18:54:13< lipkab> shadowm: Yeah, but it's still kind of pointless to start argumenting against the Gna tracker. 20131117 18:54:29< lipkab> Unless bumbadadabum volunteers to do the conversion, that is. 20131117 18:54:43< shadowm> I don't think anyone said argumenting against it was a thing that was going to be done. 20131117 18:55:00< shadowm> Gna.org is doomed and no self-respecting project should use it. 20131117 18:55:12< bumbadadabum> lipkab: there is no real conversion for the bug tracker 20131117 18:55:23< lipkab> bumbadadabum: Ah? 20131117 18:55:24< bumbadadabum> just telling people to submit things to github instead of gna 20131117 18:55:33< lipkab> And the open bugs? 20131117 18:55:38< lipkab> And closed bugs? 20131117 18:55:41< shadowm> No, we actually want to have our entire bug history with us. 20131117 18:55:45< bumbadadabum> ok 20131117 18:55:47< shadowm> This was done before when we moved _to_ gna.org. 20131117 18:56:04< lipkab> You suggest to drop ALL THOSE PRECIOUS BUGS?!?! 20131117 18:56:11< bumbadadabum> eh 20131117 18:56:14-!- _jay [~jay@cpe-67-240-147-107.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 18:56:18< shadowm> Otherwise we might become unable to refer to old bugs if gna.org closes down in the future. 20131117 18:56:31< bumbadadabum> I have no idea how to convert the bugs 20131117 18:57:02< lipkab> Now, 20131117 18:57:08< lipkab> ...nothing. 20131117 18:57:35< lipkab> wesbot: seen Crab_ 20131117 18:57:35< wesbot> lipkab: The person with the nick Crab_ last spoke 53d 2h ago. 53d 2h ago person left: 20131117 18:58:45< _jay> Quick question, I'm new to xdelta patching- does this look right? I assume you patch the source and rebuild again http://www.pasteall.org/47351 20131117 19:00:17< shadowm> _jay: I haven't used xdelta in years, but IIRC you have to bunzip2 (not unpack) the source tarball first. 20131117 19:00:59< shadowm> i.e. `bunzip2 wesnoth-1.11.6.tar.bz2`, which should leave you with a wesnoth-1.11.6.tar file. 20131117 19:01:17< _jay> ok thx I'll give that a shot 20131117 19:04:19-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20131117 19:04:30< _jay> result: http://www.pasteall.org/47353 20131117 19:05:41< _jay> I guess I can just build it and see what happens, xdelta doesn't give too much feedback.. 20131117 19:05:44-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 19:09:45< shadowm> The changelog file should start with a 1.11.7 heading, for starters. 20131117 19:11:01-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20131117 19:11:16-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 19:16:03-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@192-0-128-11.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20131117 19:17:47-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Quit: Távozom] 20131117 19:18:49< _jay> bah it doesn't 20131117 19:20:24< shadowm> So what did you do in what order? 20131117 19:22:03-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20131117 19:22:11< _jay> there we go, I found the --help thing 20131117 19:22:19< _jay> thanks for the help 20131117 19:22:31< _jay> changelog now reflects 1.11.7 :) 20131117 19:23:16-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 19:24:31< _jay> https://wesnoth.org/wiki/Xdelta_for_Linux is not working, but I assume this is known 20131117 19:25:05< shadowm> Don't use https. 20131117 19:27:13< _jay> ok, building - thanks again for the assistance 20131117 19:27:15-!- _jay [~jay@cpe-67-240-147-107.rochester.res.rr.com] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20131117 19:41:15-!- Chusslove [~Chusslove@unaffiliated/chusslove] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 19:46:55-!- happygrue [~happygrue@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20131117 20:02:32< irker189> wesnoth: JaMiT wesnoth-old:master 31c0b0807fdf / src/game_events/ (7 files): Remove explicit buffering of WMI changes. http://git.io/p9ccUw 20131117 20:02:34< irker189> wesnoth: JaMiT wesnoth-old:master 39828a1960c1 / src/ (game_events/pump.cpp game_events/pump.hpp menu_events.cpp): Rename game_events::commit() to game_events::flush_messages(). http://git.io/mHS3og 20131117 20:12:13-!- knotwork [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20131117 20:22:00-!- knotwork [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 20:25:50-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-221-101-78.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 20:25:51< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth-old#1002 (master - 39828a1 : JaMiT): The build has errored. 20131117 20:25:51< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/builds/14108673 20131117 20:25:51-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-221-101-78.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20131117 20:27:30< jamit> Why does travis not want me to scroll to the bottom of its output? 20131117 20:28:04< shadowm> I don't know. Holding the End key worked for me. 20131117 20:28:34< jamit> That's one of the sites I would disable javascript for on account of it being used annoyingly, but then the site is nonfunctional. (And I can't avoid the site.) 20131117 20:28:55< jamit> The End key works until I move my mouse over the output. 20131117 20:29:33< shadowm> I don't think that behavior is intended, that'd be ridiculous. 20131117 20:30:00< jamit> OK, I can hold the End key down to combat whatever travis is trying to do. 20131117 20:30:27< jamit> The build erred because no output had been received in 10 minutes. 20131117 20:31:34< jamit> Hmm... works better in Chromium than Firefox 20131117 20:35:39-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 20:44:03-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 196 bugs, 345 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! 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20131117 21:30:32< shadowm> python3 exists in Debian squeeze onwards. 20131117 21:32:15< Gambit> AI0867: ? 20131117 21:33:15-!- iwaim__ [~iwaim@2001:2c0:40e:2002:0:4:14:80] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 21:33:39-!- iwaim_ [~iwaim@2001:2c0:40e:2002:0:4:14:80] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20131117 21:33:58< bumbadadabum> Mint has python 2.7 be default 20131117 21:34:02< bumbadadabum> but 3 can be installed 20131117 21:36:42< AI0867> Gambit: mis-select 20131117 21:41:00< AI0867> shadowm: sure, but it only had 3.1, which lacks a lot of things 2.7 has 20131117 21:41:12< AI0867> you want at least 3.2 20131117 21:47:23-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 20131117 21:47:28< shadowm> AI0867: wheezy then (baldras). 20131117 21:49:37-!- R2D2C3PO [57a14907@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.161.73.7] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20131117 21:54:45-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@f048076193.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20131117 22:14:31-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 22:16:34-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 22:31:37-!- knotwork [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20131117 22:32:45-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20131117 22:43:05-!- happygrue [~happygrue@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20131117 22:45:25-!- knotwork [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 23:09:37-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20131117 23:11:35-!- kex [~kex@78.157.10.254] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 23:20:07-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.112.245.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20131117 23:33:31-!- happygrue [~happygrue@c-66-30-155-184.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 23:33:31-!- happygrue [~happygrue@c-66-30-155-184.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 20131117 23:33:31-!- happygrue [~happygrue@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20131117 23:39:38< bumbadadabum> Jetrel_: Hey I was looking through the Horseman WML 20131117 23:39:55< bumbadadabum> and I saw that you're still 'waiting on the NE bob' 20131117 23:40:27< bumbadadabum> That one has been made, and I haven't seen anything to suggest why it shouldn't be in in the thread 20131117 23:40:40< bumbadadabum> so, shall I just add them or do you have anything against it 20131117 23:41:42< Jetrel_> add them 20131117 23:48:40< Jetrel_> yeah, apparently that just fell through the cracks 20131117 23:48:54< bumbadadabum> Ok 20131117 23:48:57< bumbadadabum> It's added --- Log closed Mon Nov 18 00:00:05 2013