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20131105 00:58:48-!- Topic for #wesnoth-umc-dev: Wesnoth-UMC-Dev Project discussion and support channel | http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net | Staff: AI0867, Espreon | Blog: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net/blog/ | IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org, http://irclogs.ai0867.net
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20131105 01:54:53< mattsc> I (re)learned something today.  Influence functions are useless for determining defensive formations.
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20131105 16:25:10< fabi> mattsc: What is a influence function?
20131105 16:27:17< mattsc> fabi: in the context of computer games, it's a map of the playing field showing how much "influence" the own and enemies units have on any part of the map.
20131105 16:27:19< mattsc> http://gameschoolgems.blogspot.ca/2009/12/influence-maps-i.html
20131105 16:27:36< fabi> Ah yes. I see.
20131105 16:28:04< mattsc> They are useful for figuring out where to attack, but they appear to be utterly useless for finding places to set up defensive lines in Wesnoth.
20131105 16:28:58< fabi> Maybe the best way to defensive formations is a rough idea about the use case of units, combined with a rough understanding of how zoc works with considering the terrain which could support the formation.
20131105 16:29:23< fabi> But that is more easily written down than coded :-)
20131105 16:29:41< mattsc> Indeed.
20131105 16:31:10< mattsc> I'm currently trying my umpteenth method of accomplishing this.  None of them has worked very well so far.
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20131105 16:37:28< fabi> I guess a influence map could still be useful in fulfilling the task.
20131105 16:40:58< mattsc> I don't think so, at least not on the detail level.  It might tell you where in general to move units to, but at least on maps like Freelands you know that anyway.
20131105 16:41:26< mattsc> On what hexes exactly to set up your defense is very different from that.
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20131105 19:18:12< irker857> bumbadadabum: Bär Halberkamp Era_of_Chaos:master 02519215b99d / changelog.txt factions/heroes/chaos-empire.cfg: Fixed issue 1 http://git.io/84QOVQ
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