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20131105 00:58:48-!- Topic for #wesnoth: Wesnoth User Channel | http://www.wesnoth.org/ | Latest stable version: 1.10.7 | Latest development version: 1.11.6 | Check the upness of Wesnoth servers on http://status.wesnoth.org | Public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com
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20131105 18:26:22< lord-knyghtmare> Hello, I am facing a problem with Wesnoth 1.11.6
20131105 18:27:32< lord-knyghtmare> In any scenario where shroud/fog_of_war is enabled, unit movement becomes 'stuttered'
20131105 18:34:01< fabi> yes
20131105 18:34:06< bumbadadabum> wesbot: seen alarantalara
20131105 18:34:07< wesbot> bumbadadabum: Person, who 17h 20m ago used nick Alarantalara, 16h 34m ago as Alarantalara1 they were seen quitting on the channels #wesnoth-dev and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: Quit: Leaving.
20131105 18:34:28< fabi> i have noticed that as well
20131105 18:34:36< lord-knyghtmare> Is there any solution to this one?
20131105 18:34:56< fabi> I don't think so.
20131105 18:35:06< lord-knyghtmare> Or do I have to remain using Wesnoth 1.10.7, which works fine in my MacBook Pro?
20131105 18:35:20< fabi> There has been a change on how fog/shroud is lifted.
20131105 18:35:33< fabi> Once it was lifted at the end of the unit movement.
20131105 18:35:35< lord-knyghtmare> in what manner?
20131105 18:35:46< fabi> Now it is lifted step by step.
20131105 18:36:24< lord-knyghtmare> which explains why the game seems fine when delay shroud updates is enabled
20131105 18:36:30< fabi> indeed
20131105 18:36:56< fabi> I think lifting the fog/shroud step by step is a nice feature to look at.
20131105 18:37:17< fabi> But if it slows down certain environments too much it might be better removed or made an option.
20131105 18:37:39< lord-knyghtmare> I think making it an option sounds logical
20131105 18:38:02< fabi> It is noticable on my system as well (4 cores @ 2.0 Ghz), a linux desktop, but not that grave that it hurts me.
20131105 18:38:25< fabi> Yes, but we try to avoid options.
20131105 18:38:37< fabi> Because of the testing space explosion.
20131105 18:38:55< fabi> Just imagine you have only 5 options in your application.
20131105 18:39:24< fabi> All of them are just Yes/No, True/False. On/Off. Booleans with only 2 possible values.
20131105 18:40:02< fabi> Then you have already 2^5 = 32 possible configurations.
20131105 18:40:37< fabi> When testing you have to go through all of them to make sure that the app still works properly in every situation.
20131105 18:41:15< lord-knyghtmare> Can it be removed then?
20131105 18:41:25< bumbadadabum> please don't
20131105 18:41:27< bumbadadabum> I like it
20131105 18:41:39< bumbadadabum> I don't notice the slowdown that much
20131105 18:42:31< bumbadadabum> perhaps an option WOULD be good in this situation
20131105 18:42:46< bumbadadabum> apparently it really is a problem on lower-end PCs
20131105 18:43:25< fabi> Do you know who coded the feature?
20131105 18:43:31< fabi> It might have been jamit.
20131105 18:43:45< bumbadadabum> wasn't it anon?
20131105 18:43:51< lord-knyghtmare> Also, here is another problem
20131105 18:44:02< lord-knyghtmare> Wait, how do I upload a screenshot here?
20131105 18:44:09< fabi> bumbadadabum: Anonymissimus?
20131105 18:44:18< bumbadadabum> fabi: y
20131105 18:44:28< bumbadadabum> I don't recall who coded it though
20131105 18:44:28< fabi> lord-knyghtmare: use imagebin.com
20131105 18:44:32< bumbadadabum> lemme search the git repo
20131105 18:44:55< fabi> sorry, imagebin.org
20131105 18:46:10< lord-knyghtmare> fabi: uploading the image
20131105 18:46:36< bumbadadabum> fabi: Where's the fog coding located?
20131105 18:46:37< fabi> lord-knyghtmare: You get an url which you can paste here.
20131105 18:48:01< lord-knyghtmare> fabi: http://imagebin.org/275881
20131105 18:48:40< lord-knyghtmare> I see this phenomenon occurring every time I play Wesnoth 1.11.6
20131105 18:49:35< fabi> sorry, I can't spot the issue.
20131105 18:49:48< fabi> Where is it hidden?
20131105 18:50:16< lord-knyghtmare> the issue is that unit movement leaves images of unit bases on every hex the unit passes
20131105 18:50:33< lord-knyghtmare> It's clearly visible on the screenshot
20131105 18:51:19< fabi> ah yes
20131105 18:51:33< fabi> The units without hp/xp bar and movement orb.
20131105 18:51:51< fabi> Never seen it.
20131105 18:52:08< bumbadadabum> me neither
20131105 18:52:49< fabi> lord-knyghtmare: Please fill a bug report at bugs.wesnoth.org and attach the screenshot.
20131105 18:52:57< lord-knyghtmare> okay
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20131105 18:58:20< lord-knyghtmare> which 'item group' should the bug go to?
20131105 19:07:14< lord-knyghtmare> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?21257 Reported
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