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20131214 01:16:59< shadowm> fabi: So, you are aware that I cannot see individual enemy units' reach anymore?
20131214 01:17:31< fabi> yes
20131214 01:17:49< shadowm> Is this by design or just a transient bug?
20131214 01:18:00< fabi> bug
20131214 01:18:56< shadowm> Okay then.
20131214 01:19:23< fabi> The hotkey system is working again for you?
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20131214 01:20:45< shadowm> It never stopped working?
20131214 01:21:02< shadowm> Oh you mean the main menu thing after entering a game. Yes.
20131214 01:24:41< fabi> And I think the default handling is now fine enough.
20131214 01:26:37< shadowm> I haven't tested that yet, I only know I somehow ended up with End Turn bound to both alt+space (my custom choice) and the default of ctrl+space.
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20131214 09:57:17< irker073> wesnoth: Andrius Silinskas wesnoth-old:master 66921f48f466 / src/ (multiplayer_connect.cpp multiplayer_connect.hpp): Display side's name in MP Connect. http://git.io/ymGbCw
20131214 09:57:19< irker073> wesnoth: Andrius Silinskas wesnoth-old:master 3b3a120847a3 / src/multiplayer_connect.cpp: Aligned labels in MP Connect screen. http://git.io/UbXKvA
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20131214 10:02:39< thunderstruck> shadowm: How add-on's type is determined?
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20131214 10:26:49< thunderstruck> Hi fabi.
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20131214 12:05:05< thunderstruck> Coffee_irc: Hello. I'm thinking to update MP lobby game item before freeze if I'll have enough time.
20131214 12:05:19< thunderstruck> Do you remember if we agreed on what exactly it should look like?
20131214 12:05:21< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: hi
20131214 12:05:33< Coffee_irc> yeah, I was wondering about that
20131214 12:06:09< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39430
20131214 12:08:16< thunderstruck> Coffee_irc: But that's not showing how MP Campaigns would look.
20131214 12:08:36< thunderstruck> I.e. Campaign's name and difficulty.
20131214 12:10:14< Coffee_irc> in the first line you would put the campaign difficulty and name
20131214 12:10:30< Coffee_irc> somewhere it would be nice to say if it was a campaign or scenario
20131214 12:11:14< thunderstruck> Maybe it's possible to put some emphasis on campaign's name.
20131214 12:11:21< thunderstruck> E.g. make it italic.
20131214 12:11:45< thunderstruck> So, scenarios would not have that and there would be this distinction between them and campaigns.
20131214 12:12:02< Coffee_irc> looks like the size of the map could go as an icon below
20131214 12:12:08< Coffee_irc> like fog and gold
20131214 12:12:23< thunderstruck> Yes, possibly.
20131214 12:12:34< Coffee_irc> leaving the space at the top to read: <campaign name> -- MP campaign
20131214 12:12:50< Coffee_irc> or <scenario name> -- MP Scenario
20131214 12:13:02< thunderstruck> Although, map size could also be displayed above/below actual minimap.
20131214 12:13:06< thunderstruck> Or even on the minimap itsefl.
20131214 12:13:15< Coffee_irc> as an overlay?
20131214 12:13:29< thunderstruck> Maybe.
20131214 12:13:40< thunderstruck> Not sure what exactly you mean by it.
20131214 12:13:42< Coffee_irc> the maps lose detail quickly when shrunk
20131214 12:14:18< Coffee_irc> but a map icon with size of the map is what I think might work best
20131214 12:14:28< Coffee_irc> leaving the space for the campaign type
20131214 12:15:13< Coffee_irc> pushing the text closer to the icons in the bottom row would allow for the extra space
20131214 12:15:19< Coffee_irc> and make it neater, IMO
20131214 12:16:11< thunderstruck> What map icon would look like?
20131214 12:16:24< Coffee_irc> well...
20131214 12:16:34< Coffee_irc> this is where we might have to be nice to one of the artists
20131214 12:18:25< Coffee_irc> but I imagine it might look like a scroll?
20131214 12:18:54< Coffee_irc> like a "treasure map", or maybe a better idea could be found
20131214 12:21:11< Coffee_irc> like that here: http://opengameart.org/content/420-pixel-art-icons-for-medievalfantasy-rpg
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20131214 12:22:31< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: when do you have time to have a look at the UI?
20131214 12:22:40< Coffee_irc> for the settings
20131214 12:23:07< thunderstruck> Coffee_irc: What settings?
20131214 12:23:30< Coffee_irc> well, the "campaign" and modifications text and such
20131214 12:24:21< Coffee_irc> the things we've been discussing on the forum and here for some time on and off :P
20131214 12:24:27< Coffee_irc> minor but important
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20131214 12:26:48< thunderstruck> Sorry, but I'm still not sure what're you talking about. Is it MP Configure or Create screen?
20131214 12:27:25< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: the screen that appears when a player is to join a game that is already avertised
20131214 12:29:08< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: I think the other screens are good IMO
20131214 12:29:49< Coffee_irc> but with the new modifications feature and mp campaigns, the join screen needs reorganizing
20131214 12:29:52< thunderstruck> Do you have in mind that dialog which allows a player to select faction, leader and such?
20131214 12:30:40< thunderstruck> Or just lobby?
20131214 12:30:54< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: it all looks good to me on the creation side of things, and when you actually join a game
20131214 12:31:27< Coffee_irc> it's the lobby that _you_ mentioned that needs changing: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39430 :P
20131214 12:32:00< thunderstruck> Ok. I'm just not sure why you started to took about settings.
20131214 12:32:15< thunderstruck> I should have time for it after the Tuesday when I'm done with my last exam :)
20131214 12:32:23< Coffee_irc> no, I meant only the screen in the lobby for advertized games
20131214 12:34:04< Coffee_irc> even though we got dust balls and cricket noises from the forum thread (apart from bumbadadabum's post) I think it will matter to players
20131214 12:34:38< Coffee_irc> and it probably won't take long to do
20131214 12:36:08< Coffee_irc> I am a bit tired tonight (it's 11PM), but I can look at this with you tomorrow any time and spend some hours on it if you like?
20131214 12:38:05< Coffee_irc> or I could try some changes here on my local repository and catch up with you some time this next week?
20131214 12:39:26< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: ok, I'll make some changes tomorrow and catch you after your exams
20131214 12:40:00< Coffee_irc> if it doesn't work out, we can always leave it as is
20131214 12:41:02< thunderstruck> Coffee_irc: Okay. That's fine by me.
20131214 12:42:29< thunderstruck> I would also love to get rid of MP Wait dialog before freeze, but probably that's too much work to be done in time.
20131214 12:43:11< Coffee_irc> thunderstruck: I wouldn't worry, people have been wanting mp campaign support for so long they won't mind a small wait
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20131214 18:19:00< mordante> AI0867, dcdce05935f7410e57ba4d76f069a3d4b1c9fdc6 gives a linker error, util.cpp now depends on preferences.cpp for providing functions
20131214 18:20:01< mordante> AI0867, this causes the core library to depend on the game library
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20131214 19:02:55< mordante> I'm off bye
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20131214 20:18:03< anonymissimus> lipk: according to my compiler and http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/locale/tolower/, std::tolower needs 2 parameters
20131214 20:19:48< anonymissimus> so, fix it
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20131214 21:16:07< thunderstruck> anonymissimus, lipk: tolower is declared in <cctype> and takes one argument. The two arguments version is declared in <locale>.
20131214 21:16:32< thunderstruck> Maybe your problem is that wrong version is used.
20131214 21:18:36< mattsc> zookeeper: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=39730&p=564093#p564093
20131214 21:18:50< mattsc> In case you want to add something or correct me on anything
20131214 21:19:36< mattsc> (I really haven't read that entire thread, it's just that last post that caught my attention)
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20131214 21:57:19< irker764> wesnoth: Bär Halberkamp wesnoth-old:master eea8ce607985 / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/scenarios/01_The_Outpost.cfg: Added facing=se for Dacyn and Gweddry in S1 http://git.io/VwTqFw
20131214 21:57:22< irker764> wesnoth: Bär Halberkamp wesnoth-old:master 7411ed053fe2 / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/scenarios/02_The_Escape_Tunnel.cfg: EI: Made the undead side not appear in side list before it actually appears http://git.io/UqCp9w
20131214 21:57:25< irker764> wesnoth: Bär Halberkamp wesnoth-old:master 8d12ff8208c5 / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/scenarios/02_The_Escape_Tunnel.cfg: Also made side 4 hidden until it appears http://git.io/kPv9AQ
20131214 21:57:28< irker764> wesnoth: Bär Halberkamp wesnoth-old:master b7a0f40e342b / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/scenarios/02_The_Escape_Tunnel.cfg: Added some macros to S2 to make the code more compact http://git.io/pJdlEw
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20131214 22:29:35< shadowm> thunderstruck: Depends on the context. Add-ons in the add-ons server have their type defined by the author. Locally, there's pretty much no concept of add-on type.
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20131214 22:31:14< shadowm> thunderstruck: Locally there are only WML files and directories which may define campaigns ([campaign]) or otherwise introduce WML that affects Wesnoth's functionality ([units], [multiplayer], etc.), usually depending on some condition (#ifdef MULTIPLAYER, #ifdef <campaign symbol from the [campaign] tag>)...
20131214 22:31:28< shadowm> Not sure if that helps.
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