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20140121 01:07:28< irker756> wesnoth: Allefant wesnoth-old:master a83ae0ab08ba / data/tools/wmlunits: [wmlunits] Filter out eras from dependencies http://git.io/WOa5NA
20140121 01:09:25< shadowm> elias: Around?
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20140121 01:12:12< fabi> wesbot: seen LordBob_?
20140121 01:12:12< wesbot> fabi: The person with the nick LordBob_ last spoke 10d 9h ago.  10d 8h ago person left:
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20140121 11:55:08< elias> shadowm: yes
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20140121 12:02:01< Magoa> Hi, I wondering how I could add my own AI on wesnoth 1.10 with C++ API ?
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20140121 12:56:18< Magoa> Any ideas about how work AI class in C++ ?
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20140121 13:03:17< Soliton> wesbot: seen Crab_
20140121 13:03:17< wesbot> Soliton: Sorry, I don't know of Crab_.
20140121 13:03:21< Soliton> wesbot: seen Crab__
20140121 13:03:21< wesbot> Soliton: Sorry, I don't know of Crab__.
20140121 13:04:27< Soliton> Magoa: probably best to send a forum message to Crab, been a while since he showed up here. he knows about the AI.
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20140121 13:13:15< Magoa> ok, thanks
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20140121 18:16:37< cib0> I wonder if the campaign I've been working on this past year using 1.11.5 will give me any trouble when updating to latest.
20140121 18:17:22< zookeeper> better be prepared for that, in any case.
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20140121 18:31:49< cib0> So.. the game cleared side 2 recall list on scenario end and I'm not sure why.
20140121 18:32:02 * cib0 looks up how persistent=yes works
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20140121 18:32:41< cib0> "If yes, then save_id (see below) is used to identify the side in other scenarios." ah..
20140121 18:33:05< cib0> Wait, so I can preserve recall lists without having them even appear in a specific scenario?
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20140121 19:45:53< cib0> Tempted to do away with this annoying recall problem and just store all units in variables. Except that'd be a boatload of work.
20140121 19:47:25< cib0> Ah, here we go. Forgot that only lua is updated when restarting the scenario, WML requires a full restart.
20140121 19:53:33 * zookeeper has never grasped how the recall list handling for sides != 1 work or are supposed to work
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20140121 20:03:58< mordante> servus
20140121 20:05:01< mordante> AI0867, good to know it now compiles fine
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20140121 20:10:31< AI0867> mattsc: could you pastebin me those xcode warnings?
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20140121 20:19:30< mattsc> AI0867: only seeing 3 at the moment (the 4th was an Xcode configuration error that got mixed in):  http://pastebin.com/JiPpd7rF
20140121 20:26:25< AI0867> #1 looks like a config issue.
20140121 20:26:36< mattsc> yes
20140121 20:26:46< mattsc> I just haven't looked into it yet
20140121 20:27:26< AI0867> and I'm curious what Wesnoth_Prefix.pch is actually needed for (that's warning #3)
20140121 20:29:09< AI0867> it probably *shouldn't* be included for the src/lua tree
20140121 20:29:45< AI0867> you may want to consider removing things from that file and seeing if it continues to compile
20140121 20:30:14< vultraz> The 1st is also on windows
20140121 20:30:21< mattsc> Okay - I'll look into it sometime soon(ish)
20140121 20:31:39< AI0867> I think #2 is a mistake in the header
20140121 20:38:15< mordante> I'm off bye
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20140121 20:45:19< irker456> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master d9aa29a2f256 / src/clipboard.hpp: Make handle_external_event's declaration unconditional http://git.io/_OUuqA
20140121 20:45:20< AI0867> mattsc: ^
20140121 20:45:21< irker456> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth-old:master e9f4fd8766f9 / data/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth-old http://git.io/OfXsRA
20140121 20:49:44< zookeeper> loonycyborg, would you mind doing a trunk windows build? it'd be super useful for me
20140121 20:50:03< mattsc> AI0867: yes, that takes care of #2.  Thank you!
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20140121 21:00:29< loonycyborg> zookeeper: I'll try. Cross-compile setup is kinda broken atm, if I can't fix it I'll multiboot
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20140121 21:05:31< AI0867> loonycyborg: is your cross-compile setup zipped up somewhere?
20140121 21:06:39< loonycyborg> It's on asheviere.wesnoth.org
20140121 21:07:43< loonycyborg> I don't remember if I zipped it somewhere
20140121 21:08:14< loonycyborg> I've always build boost with appropriate toolchain and it's unlikely to work otherwise
20140121 21:08:54< shadowm> We need more categories for the bug tracker, really.
20140121 21:09:05< shadowm> It'd make it easier to search for certain kinds of bugs.
20140121 21:09:10< loonycyborg> So chances are there will be incompatibilities if you use a different build of gcc 
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20140121 21:10:25< shadowm> elias: I noticed that wesnoth_addon_manager filters the contents of the .pbl file before passing them to the server. Why is that?
20140121 21:15:17< AI0867> who was working on/advocating redmine again?
20140121 21:18:44< lipkab> AI0867: Crab.
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20140121 21:27:08< zookeeper> loonycyborg, oh, okay. thanks!
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20140121 21:50:25< elias> shadowm: it has to remove the password
20140121 21:50:42< elias> at least that's how it was 5 years or so ago - the .pbl had a password in plaintext inside
20140121 21:51:04< shadowm> elias: The server _needs_ the password. :|
20140121 21:51:11< shadowm> Passphrase.
20140121 21:51:31< elias> hm
20140121 21:51:36< AI0867> it's not like the PBL is served to the user
20140121 21:51:39< elias> i don't remember then
20140121 21:51:45< shadowm> elias: I'm not talking of the contents of the .pbl in the archive sent to the server (the .pbl itself isn't supposed to be sent in it). I'm talking of the contents of the .pbl sent in the request itself.
20140121 21:52:16< shadowm> elias: The fact that the .pbl's contents are filtered by wesnoth_addon_manager results in bugs like https://gna.org/bugs/?21189 every time the .pbl format changes.
20140121 21:52:54< shadowm> The built-in add-ons client in the game proper sends the whole .pbl to the add-ons server after generating a passphrase (if not provided) and lets it figure out what to do with its contents.
20140121 21:52:59< elias> maybe I can look at it once wmlunits mostly works again
20140121 21:53:11< shadowm> As a result, right now wesnoth_addons_manager is missing two important features.
20140121 21:53:21< elias> i should still have a fork of wesnoth_addon_manager somewhere using wmlparser2 instead of wmlparser
20140121 21:53:30< shadowm> #21189, and the [feedback] tag.
20140121 21:53:37< elias> maybe I'll be able to make that work some time as well
20140121 21:54:17< shadowm> So, for example, I can't upload my add-on with wesnoth_addon_manager and expect that to work properly because it uses both.
20140121 21:54:48< shadowm> Since wesnoth_addon_manager doesn't know about either, they aren't sent to the server, and the add-on ends up without a URL or dependencies list.
20140121 21:55:34< shadowm> Adding the dependencies field to the list seems trivial. [feedback]? Not so much.
20140121 21:59:58< elias> ah, the WML is different apparently
20140121 22:00:04< elias> need to construct an [upload]
20140121 22:01:09< elias> would it be correct to simply put every attribute in the .pbl file inside the [upload]?
20140121 22:01:12< elias> that would be easy enough
20140121 22:01:26< elias> well, attribute/tag I mean
20140121 22:02:32< shadowm> Isn't that what I said above? Anyway, the reference implementation is in src/addon/client.cpp line 103, addons_client::upload_addon().
20140121 22:03:14< shadowm> The only thing the client alters in any form before sending the .pbl is the passphrase.
20140121 22:06:02< shadowm> Hm, as things stand right now, one could have a [data] tag in the .pbl override the actual filesystem contents.
20140121 22:06:27< elias> heh
20140121 22:06:43< elias> well, that could be a nice feature
20140121 22:06:59< elias> can do the whole addon in a single file
20140121 22:08:09< elias> i'll fix it, but probably not today... need to figure out how to set up a test addon server
20140121 22:08:22< shadowm> It's not too hard. Do you use cmake or scons?
20140121 22:08:32< elias> scons, and yes, I did it before
20140121 22:09:03< shadowm> campaignd will generate all the configuration it needs when first run and work as expected.
20140121 22:09:23< shadowm> The only thing you may want to customize is the port number, but then again, the default will just work with a client of the same branch.
20140121 22:26:01< loonycyborg> zookeeper: http://asheviere.wesnoth.org/files/hidden/win/
20140121 22:26:09< loonycyborg> It works again
20140121 22:29:50< zookeeper> loonycyborg, thanks a lot!
20140121 22:31:01< AI0867> mattsc: FIFODIR should be set to /var/run/wesnothd by default
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20140121 22:31:18< mattsc> AI0867: yeah, I'm about to commit
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20140121 22:32:17< irker456> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 36c2fa313f0d / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Xcode project: add FIFODIR to preprocessor macros http://git.io/cKRfnw
20140121 22:32:49< mattsc> AI0867, vultraz: that ^ takes care of the fifodir warning in Xcode
20140121 22:35:33< AI0867> =)
20140121 22:35:39< AI0867> SOON
20140121 22:35:57< mattsc> yeah  :)
20140121 22:36:22< mattsc> I'm out of time Wesnoth for today though ...
20140121 22:36:41< mattsc> *time FOR Wesnoth
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20140121 22:42:45< zookeeper> loonycyborg, will the url http://www.wesnoth.org/files/hidden/win/ be obsolete from now on?
20140121 22:43:47< loonycyborg> yes
20140121 22:44:00< loonycyborg> Now wesnoth.org is set to baldras
20140121 22:44:07< zookeeper> okay
20140121 22:44:33< zookeeper> not that i know what baldras and asheviere are really and what their roles are
20140121 22:44:43< AI0867> baldras = new server
20140121 22:44:51< AI0867> asheviere = old server
20140121 22:45:02< AI0867> asheviere still exists, but does very little other than sucking up money
20140121 22:45:15< noy>  time to get rid of her I think
20140121 22:45:29< zookeeper> oh, right.
20140121 22:45:30< AI0867> shadowm's checklist is almost complete
20140121 22:45:34< shadowm> We still have stuff in there though.
20140121 22:45:38< AI0867> https://gist.github.com/shikadilord/054ef53e68189b6f435c
20140121 22:45:45< noy> can we get this done by like, this week?
20140121 22:45:59< shadowm> You'd need to ask Rhonda and Soliton about it, not much I can do.
20140121 22:46:08< shadowm> (The https point in the list can be ignored for now.)
20140121 22:46:32< noy> would it it help if I just said we're going to stop paying by the end of the month? :p
20140121 22:51:32< AI0867> possibly
20140121 22:51:34< AI0867> Soliton: ^
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20140121 23:13:37< crimson_penguin> noy: where do you live again?
20140121 23:13:40< crimson_penguin> "I feel like news agencies could maybe save time and only post when homicide investigators were NOT called to a scene in Surrey." :P
20140121 23:13:59 * crimson_penguin is pretty sure noy doesn't live there, but somewhere around there
20140121 23:14:05< noy> … 
20140121 23:14:26< noy> not in that area, no
20140121 23:17:45< AI0867> that's understandable ;)
20140121 23:26:16< crimson_penguin> really? am I thinking of someone else?
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20140121 23:26:36< mattsc> AI0867: I lied.
20140121 23:26:43< crimson_penguin> to be clear, would you be in "that area" if Vancouver was "in that area"?
20140121 23:26:48< mattsc> I did one more thing (because the computer can do it on its own with minimal time needed by me).  I removed Wesnoth_Prefix.pch from the Xcode project (not the file itself, but the setting including it) and Wesnoth compiles just fine and the warning is gone.
20140121 23:27:47< mattsc> So I assume that this is a left-over from some earlier version of Xcode that required it?
20140121 23:29:03< AI0867> possibly
20140121 23:30:40< mattsc> crimson_penguin: I guess I count as in the "general area", but there's ocean in between.  :P
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20140121 23:31:17< crimson_penguin> mattsc: oh really? I'm in Vancouver
20140121 23:31:54< mattsc> AI0867: I'll do some more test tomorrow morning, but it looks like Xcode appears to be warning free now!  thanks much for your help!
20140121 23:31:59< mattsc> crimson_penguin: Victoria
20140121 23:32:06< crimson_penguin> ah, cool
20140121 23:37:00< mattsc> :)
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20140121 23:41:56< AI0867> ugh, I just found an animation refresh bug of some sort
20140121 23:42:38< AI0867> and now I can't reproduce it any more =/
20140121 23:43:07< AI0867> it started with an aura being on the wrong unit
20140121 23:44:00< AI0867> then arrowkey-scrolling away and back caused all sorts of refresh issues on that auro. black squares, parts of the menu hanging around...
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20140121 23:57:04< shadowm> AI0867: It could be a problem with your window manager/compositor.
20140121 23:57:28< shadowm> Or you somehow managed to reproduce http://gna.org/bugs/?21336 .
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