--- Log opened Wed Jan 22 00:00:25 2014
20140122 00:05:59< AI0867> I'm running fairly vanilla debian stable
20140122 00:06:06< AI0867> well, with KDE, but that's it
20140122 00:06:21< AI0867> I doubt that'd affect SDL's drawing onto its own canvas
20140122 00:07:14< AI0867> and yeah, that sounds like the same bug
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20140122 00:51:44< AI0867> loonycyborg: looks like the mingw build on asheviere is actually broken
20140122 00:52:22< loonycyborg> Hmm? It completed successfully for me
20140122 00:52:32< loonycyborg> After I fixed the libvorbisfile issue
20140122 00:52:59< AI0867> well, did you build it *on* asheviere? because the stuff I found there includes logs saying the dependencies for building 'wesnoth' aren't met
20140122 00:54:35< loonycyborg> http://asheviere.wesnoth.org/files/hidden/win/
20140122 00:54:50< loonycyborg> wesnoth.exe here is from january 2014
20140122 00:56:50< loonycyborg> Just tried it again, all mandatory config checks passed and build is up-to-date
20140122 00:58:35< loonycyborg> I did it from 'ssh loonycyborg@asheviere.wesnoth.org' :P
20140122 00:58:45< loonycyborg> So yes, on asheviere
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20140122 01:09:57< irker456> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 65aab693b8f4 / data/core/units.cfg: Remove a wmllint spelling exception that doesn't belong http://git.io/p5a5-g
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20140122 02:05:42< AI0867> loonycyborg: where is the build? is it the stuff referred to in ~loonycyborg/ ?
20140122 02:05:49< AI0867> compile-wesnoth and scons.log ?
20140122 02:06:08< AI0867> that is, /usr/src/svn-checkouts/wesnoth-mingw32
20140122 02:06:10< loonycyborg> scons.log is old log
20140122 02:06:28< loonycyborg> I don't remember anymore why I saved it even
20140122 02:06:58< loonycyborg> compile-wesnoth is the script I use to run the build
20140122 02:07:15< loonycyborg> It contains the path where the build is
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20140122 02:10:34< AI0867> what kind of scons options do you use to get it to use the stuff in win-deps? The things in .scons-option-cache don't seem sufficient
20140122 02:11:06< loonycyborg> It is sufficient
20140122 02:11:12< loonycyborg> I use ./compile-wesnoth
20140122 02:11:14< loonycyborg> that's it
20140122 02:11:49< AI0867> okay
20140122 02:14:36< AI0867> well, I get this: scons: *** Directory path for option luadir does not exist: /home/ai/src/wesnoth-mingw/win-deps/Lua
20140122 02:14:58< AI0867> which makes sense, as we moved lua into the tree
20140122 02:15:03< AI0867> and it's not in win-deps.tar.bz2
20140122 02:16:38< AI0867> also, that git clone has its own parallel tree by now, thanks to a force push by ivanovic
20140122 02:17:17< AI0867> not particularly important now, as we already fixed the issue on baldras just days ago
20140122 02:25:06< loonycyborg> You mean where? You're moving this setup to baldras?
20140122 02:27:24< loonycyborg> ehh
20140122 02:27:41< loonycyborg> I still don't fully understand implication of this parallel tree thing
20140122 02:27:54< loonycyborg> Goddamn confusing igt
20140122 02:27:57< loonycyborg> *git
20140122 02:40:53< loonycyborg> Anyway, good night
20140122 02:42:06< AI0867> loonycyborg: I'm moving it to my local machine, but baldras also has clones, obviously
20140122 02:44:08< AI0867> as for the git thing, a force push (which you shouldn't do) can push things that do not match current history. If you pull from a repository where this has happened, and you previously pulled the overwritten commits, git automatically tries to merge the new tree (that you just pulled) with the old one that you already have locally
20140122 02:44:37< AI0867> this is not about it, it's about distributed VCSs and overwriting history
20140122 02:44:52< AI0867> svn would just error out loudly, I expect
20140122 02:44:58< AI0867> the solution is to not overwrite history
20140122 02:46:05< shadowm> I think SVN won't notice unless the revision count has changed or you perform an operation which involves diffs that can't be reconciled.
20140122 02:47:25< AI0867> so it might just randomly update and ignore the fact that everything changed under the hood?
20140122 02:47:32< AI0867> that's so much more reasonable ;)
20140122 02:49:35< shadowm> Well, updating a working tree could fall under the latter category depending on the impact on the commits between BASE and HEAD.
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20140122 06:49:38< AI0867> loonycyborg: ugh. One issue is that the win-deps tarball hasn't been updated since 2008. The directory sitting next to it has been though
20140122 06:51:00< AI0867> I foolishly assumed that the directory was the contents of the tarball
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20140122 10:05:07< loonycyborg> AI0867: nope, it's old
20140122 10:05:38< loonycyborg> Better get actual win-deps dir from asheviere with rsync over ssh :P
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20140122 14:28:08< irker139> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master d9659f69b4a7 / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Xcode project: remove Wesnoth_Prefix.pch from 'Prefix Header' setting http://git.io/_HZ_OA
20140122 14:28:10< irker139> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 1012bd0affc6 / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj:  Xcode project: don't show warnings for third-party code (release build) http://git.io/P51j_Q
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20140122 14:30:17< mattsc> AI0867: and with that, both Xcode builds are warning-free  \o/
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20140122 14:40:15< mattsc> Hmm, just noting for reference (comment I just left with d9659f69b4a7):
20140122 14:40:26< mattsc> "Line 4951 was accidentally committed here. It sets the gcc version for both builds to the default compiler. This is probably okay that way as the compiler was set to gcc 4 for the release build previously, which is not supported (or at least installed by default) in current Xcode versions)."
20140122 14:41:41< mattsc> I think it is okay to make this commit, but it should not have been mixed in with d9659f69b4a7 of course, that was accidental.  Noting it here in case somebody runs into problems with it in the future.
20140122 14:51:35< irker139> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 62273f51b386 / data/ai/utils/default_config.cfg: RCA AI: revert gold saving default back to 'off' http://git.io/pyzlww
20140122 14:54:18< AI0867> loonycyborg: I used recursive scp instead =P
20140122 14:54:42< AI0867> mattsc: is there a 'strict' switch you can turn on now?
20140122 14:55:28< mattsc> AI0867: ah, yes, thanks for the reminder.  I'm sure there is and was going to check out how to do that, but had forgotten.
20140122 14:56:08< mattsc> AI0867 (and others): thanks for all your help with this.  When I started this, Xcode produced over 70 warnings!
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20140122 15:05:38< irker139> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 61905ba0c712 / RELEASE_NOTES changelog players_changelog: Update release notes and changelogs with gold saving default change http://git.io/K04DCQ
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20140122 15:58:09< irker139> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master aaf0922da171 / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/01_End_of_Peace.cfg: SotBE S1: enable AI gold saving http://git.io/xl2euA
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20140122 17:23:52< irker139> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 73074e4d0337 / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Xcode project: set gcc version to Xcode default for wesnothd http://git.io/TcPdFQ
20140122 17:23:54< irker139> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master cb482ecdeac9 / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Xcode project: enable strict compilation http://git.io/TlKJMA
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20140122 17:26:15< mattsc> AI0867: ^
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20140122 17:41:32< EliDupree> grr... setting listboxes inactive is hard in 1.10.7
20140122 17:42:30< EliDupree> I don't know if it's possible - It's a horizontal_listbox of toggle_panels with an image and a label in each
20140122 17:43:09< EliDupree> And if I set each of those widgets inactive separately, then most clicks don't work, but clicking the image still does
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20140122 19:01:24< vultraz> EliDupree: since when do you click an image?
20140122 19:01:33< EliDupree> what?
20140122 19:01:55< EliDupree> The image is in the dialog, so I can click on it. What's the question?
20140122 19:02:21< vultraz> clicking on an image shouldn't return a callback...
20140122 19:02:24< vultraz> right?
20140122 19:02:39< EliDupree> The image is in the toggle_panel
20140122 19:02:57< EliDupree> so it should trigger the listbox's callback if it's active
20140122 19:03:19< vultraz> right. ok
20140122 19:03:24< vultraz> sorry, it's 6 AM
20140122 19:03:29< EliDupree> no problem :)
20140122 19:03:42< vultraz> I didn't even know you could set a listbox to inacvtive 
20140122 19:04:08< vultraz> doesn't set_dialog_active(false, "listbox") work?
20140122 19:04:14< EliDupree> nope
20140122 19:05:31< vultraz> What are you trying to do, anyway
20140122 19:05:46< vultraz> that requires an inactive listbox
20140122 19:06:11< EliDupree> A settings screen. At first you can pick settings
20140122 19:06:16< EliDupree> later you can view the screen but can't change it
20140122 19:06:25< EliDupree> I've already found multiple workarounds, though
20140122 19:08:20< mattsc> idl string concat
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20140122 19:08:44< mattsc> oops   :\ 
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20140122 19:42:23< Kilian]> Hi, someone asked on one of the 1 million wesnoth ML's for a legal windows VM, I think I can help here, feel free to ping me
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20140122 20:19:39< mattsc> loonycyborg: ^ 
20140122 20:20:13< loonycyborg> Kilian]: Yes
20140122 20:20:20< Kilian]> Hi
20140122 20:20:27< loonycyborg> please tell me how exactly you accomplish it
20140122 20:20:49< Kilian]> I have a legal msdn account
20140122 20:20:54< loonycyborg> Maybe even reply to that email :P
20140122 20:20:58< loonycyborg> But
20140122 20:21:07< loonycyborg> Can you transfer those licenses to us?
20140122 20:21:18< loonycyborg> MSDN account applies only to YOU
20140122 20:21:21< Kilian]> iam not registering on any ML again ;)
20140122 20:22:20< Kilian]> loonycyborg: my idea was to create a new vm, which can you use, for 4 months, that's the time my subscribtion will be canceld
20140122 20:23:23< loonycyborg> It's still shady. With same success I can pirate it
20140122 20:23:42< loonycyborg> And I don't want to depend on expiring subsriptions
20140122 20:23:48< Kilian]> if it doesn't help you its not a problem for me
20140122 20:23:57< Kilian]> you could try reactos ;)
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20140122 20:24:03< loonycyborg> Thanks for your offer anyway
20140122 20:24:22< Kilian]> loonycyborg: write MS an email, they will help you for sure
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20140122 20:46:45< mattsc> vultraz: thanks for your comment.  I just replied to it   (don't know if you get a notification of that)
20140122 20:56:15< vultraz> mattsc: yes, I get notifications
20140122 20:56:47< mattsc> vultraz: okay, cool.
20140122 20:57:32< vultraz> I personally don't see why some people are still using 10.5 when software stopped supporting it awhile ago
20140122 20:57:48< vultraz> But I suppose it's the same deal with Windows XP
20140122 20:58:05< vultraz> the whole, "all the new os'es are horrible" mentality
20140122 20:59:46< vultraz> As long as your solution works, though, should be all good
20140122 21:01:19< mattsc> Yeah, using gcc was probably necessary at some point, but it does not seem to be any more, at least not back to OS X 10.5
20140122 21:02:19< mattsc> We had several people test that with different version before we made the 1.11.8 release, and even afterward nobody's complained
20140122 21:02:30< Guest30333> vultraz: Assuming you’re talking about Mac OS X 10.5, some reasons people might not upgrade therefrom are: (a) their hardware doesn’t meet a newer version’s requirements; (b) they don’t consider a newer version worth the price; (c) they don’t have time.
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20140122 21:03:03< ancestral> Any Macs released in Early 2006 are Intel Core Duo and cannot upgrade to 10.6
20140122 21:03:34< mattsc> #3 is usually what keeps me from upgrading.  If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
20140122 21:03:41< _8680_> (I typed “Assuming you’re talking about Mac OS X” before mattsc confirmed that.)
20140122 21:04:35< ancestral> Sorry, OS X :-P
20140122 21:06:26< ancestral> IIRC someone on the development team was using their PowerMac G5 and they were part of the reason to continue supporting OS X 10.5 (as 10.5 is as new as the G5 can handle)
20140122 21:07:34< ancestral> Otherwise, any Intel Core 2 can run at least OS X 10.6; those machines started coming out in late ’06.
20140122 21:08:05< ancestral> And if you’re running 10.4 or 10.5, you can still order the 10.6 Snow Leopard disc from Apple, amazingly enough. $19.99
20140122 21:12:23< vultraz> the 2006 mac we had was able to run 10.7'
20140122 21:12:30< vultraz> Not 10.8 tho
20140122 21:12:40< vultraz> But it's retired now
20140122 21:12:46< vultraz> (also the battery was blowing up again)
20140122 21:13:08< vultraz> (and I mean literally blowing up)
20140122 21:14:12< mattsc> vultraz: blowing up like a balloon or like an explosion?  I've had the former happen, but not the latter.
20140122 21:14:18< vultraz> Former
20140122 21:14:26< vultraz> Happened once before, too
20140122 21:14:28< ancestral> They don't explode, but they can bulge
20140122 21:14:40< vultraz> I really should go in and see if I left any files I want on there...
20140122 21:14:56< ancestral> It happens typically after they’re consumed, but the 2.2/2.4 batteries tended to fail sooner
20140122 21:15:43< mattsc> I don't have that battery any more so I can't look up what version it was, but it was an impressive size when I recycled it.
20140122 21:16:12< ancestral> Point of interest: If an embedded battery in a Mac bulges in its first 3 years, regardless of warranty status, the repair is free
20140122 21:16:46< ancestral> mattsc: I’ve seen plenty of them, but I can tell you I’ve never seen one leak
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20140122 21:17:56< mattsc> actually: http://imagebin.org/288206
20140122 21:18:14< mattsc> That was pretty early on.  It easily got twice as thick later on.
20140122 21:18:44< mattsc> Well, 1.5 times, maybe.  I don't remember ...
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