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20140131 00:46:22< AI0867> Espreon: can you check PR #91?
20140131 00:46:31< AI0867> (and isn't there some tool that needs to be run?)
20140131 00:46:58< Espreon> AI0867: Yeah, you need lbundle-check.py, I think it's called
20140131 00:48:45< AI0867> do you know the license on that script? Maybe we can import it into the repository
20140131 00:48:52< Espreon> Sadly, I don't.
20140131 00:49:08< Espreon> It's a KDE script, I think, so it should be free
20140131 00:49:17< AI0867> Copyright © 2007 Chusslove Illich (Часлав Илић) <caslav.ilic@gmx.net>
20140131 00:49:20< AI0867> huh
20140131 00:49:47< Espreon> Yeah. Heh heh. Chusslove has a lot to do with image localization stuff, it seems.
20140131 00:49:53< Espreon> More than I thought.
20140131 00:55:49< Espreon> AI0867: ... Yeah, I don't deal with the new maps. I'd ask zookeeper to deal with it.
20140131 00:56:18< Espreon> Though, the first thing that comes to mind when I look at the request is: UGLY MERGE COMMIT AAAH!
20140131 00:56:53< Espreon> AI0867: Well, at least, have him look at them.
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20140131 07:52:54< mordante> servus
20140131 07:56:19< mordante> AI0867, ping
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20140131 08:45:27< zookeeper> shadowm, i hope the hotkey translations can be restored rather than the translators having to do them again after the textdomains are fixed.
20140131 08:47:43< shadowm> They still exist commented out in the .po files, and in the worst case that's what Git is for.
20140131 08:49:02< shadowm> No idea whether the textdomain change should be reverted or not though, that's why I decided to ask in the mailing list about it (even though experience tells me asking in the mailing list about _anything_ is utterly useless 90% of the time).
20140131 08:49:40< zookeeper> indeed
20140131 08:50:43< AI0867> mordante: pong
20140131 08:50:52< shadowm> As far as I care, the wesnoth vs. wesnoth-lib textdomain seems to be a relic of the past from back when the map editor was a completely different executable built from a subset of the codebase, but internationalization practices aren't my field here.
20140131 08:51:35< AI0867> you're probably right, but it seems to me that the hotkey thing is entirely accidental
20140131 08:51:44< AI0867> otherwise, the strings should have been moved too
20140131 08:52:26< AI0867> so until we actually merge the two or redefine the split, the correct textdomain should be restored to that file
20140131 08:52:34< shadowm> I assume it's accidental, although I thought this kind of thing would be caught early by either Ivanovic (during a pot-update) or translators.
20140131 08:53:57< shadowm> Right now, defining the correct textdomain for that file alone won't help without a pot-update pass afterwards unless you grab older po or mo files.
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20140131 16:32:31< elias|FOSDEM> hm, where's this hotel
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20140131 17:30:32< AI0867> elias|FOSDEM: very nearby
20140131 17:30:43< AI0867> <5 min from the greek
20140131 17:41:10< AI0867> elias|FOSDEM: close to gare du central and the grote markt
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20140131 17:48:47< AI0867> cib0: Ivanovic asks if you want to join us at FOSDEM
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20140131 17:50:26< cib0> Isn't that happening right now?
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20140131 17:54:13< AI0867> cib0: yes
20140131 17:54:38< AI0867> well, FOSDEM is tomorrow and sunday, but we're here already
20140131 17:55:31< cib0> Ah. Yeah, that'd be a bit short term, but thanks for asking. =)
20140131 17:59:45< elias|FOSDEM> yay, made it to the Greek :)
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20140131 19:56:47< mattsc> Hi zookeeper.  I probably will have some time to look into the ai_controller code over the weekend.  Do you think we should try to change it so that it works with leader-less sides, or should we have it throw up a warning message that it is not meant for that purpose.
20140131 19:57:23< mattsc> I think we should go through and fix the parts that are compromised by changes to the AI syntax.
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20140131 19:58:01< zookeeper> well, is it difficult to make it work on leaderless sides? if not then sure that'd be nice
20140131 19:58:41< mattsc> I don't think it's too hard, but it's a pretty impressive bit of code and I haven't dug in too deeply yet.
20140131 19:58:59< mattsc> You don't see any fundamental reasons why we shouldn't try?
20140131 20:01:21< mattsc> zookeeper: also, this wording:  https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/blob/master/data/core/macros/ai_controller.cfg#L76
20140131 20:01:53< mattsc> obviously won't work then.  Do you have a suggestion for an alternative, ideally something that works both for sides with and without leaders?
20140131 20:02:23< mattsc> Oops, I mean line 133 in the same file.
20140131 20:05:18< zookeeper> well, yeah, i guess it'd be more work then
20140131 20:05:37< zookeeper> so, err, let's keep it just for sides with leaders, mmkay? :p
20140131 20:05:54< mattsc> Less work's always good.  :)
20140131 20:06:52< mattsc> I'll just check whether there's a problem with the AI syntax in 1.11.8+dev then.  I've already fixed one of those a while ago, maybe that was the only one ...
20140131 20:07:10< mattsc> And we had already agreed to take it out of SotBE S3, right?
20140131 20:08:09< zookeeper> if we didn't, then we should agree now :p
20140131 20:08:34< mattsc> Good.  Let's do that then.  I'll take care of it.
20140131 20:08:38< zookeeper> awesome
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20140131 20:12:09< zookeeper> btw, i think that when i originally started writing it i wasn't sure how much and what kind of orders you should be able to issue, and the current very limited set is very intentional
20140131 20:13:03< zookeeper> IIRC at some point there was an alternate version with a lot more and more precise options
20140131 20:13:34< zookeeper> or maybe not, my seemingly clear recollections have been wrong before
20140131 20:15:38< zookeeper> i'm not sure if the currently disabled "defend location" order should ever be brought back... but if it was, then i think the locations should definitely be scenario-defined so you'd just choose from a list of named locations
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20140131 20:42:13< mattsc> zookeeper: okay, that sounds reasonable.  Let me know if there is anything specific that you'd like me to look into, other than just checking the AI syntax.
20140131 20:49:27< zookeeper> anything else that might make it not work? i guess that's not very specific... :>
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20140131 20:49:46< zookeeper> but as far as i understood it's the AI stuff which is the only nonfunctionality-causing part
20140131 20:51:37< mattsc> Well, when I said it's mostly not working that's because it's not meant for sides without leader.  :P
20140131 20:53:26< mattsc> Besides that, there was one thing that I have already fixed that was an AI syntax thing (wrong syntax for [ai][goal]).
20140131 20:54:00< mattsc> And besides that, I think it's just that the AI parameters are not read correctly into the original_settings array.
20140131 20:54:41< mattsc> That is also a change-of-syntax thing, I think, but since that isn't being used for anything at the moment, AFAICT, it's not really a problem.
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