--- Log opened Tue Feb 11 00:00:17 2014 20140211 00:01:05< aquileia> shadowm: I would try to merge the strings to "Accelerated speed enabled!\n"+ vgettext("(press $hk to disable)", symbols) , this could fix it 20140211 00:02:09< aquileia> I'll file the report 20140211 00:02:11-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20140211 00:08:28< Jozrael> shadowm: sorry, just saw your question: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/index.php?title=How_to_play_Drakes 20140211 00:08:30< Jozrael> As an example 20140211 00:10:43-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20140211 00:11:05< aquileia> shadowm: http://gna.org/bugs/index.php?21634 20140211 00:17:38-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@g228175031.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 00:20:29-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20140211 00:22:01-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 00:42:23< irker740> wesnoth: Alarantalara wesnoth-old:master be60c664cf9f / projectfiles/Xcode/Resources/SDLMain.nib/ (designable.nib keyedobjects.nib): Remove old chengelog entries in OS X windowed copy http://git.io/4IfeWg 20140211 00:46:23-!- cib0 [~cib@p508BC146.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20140211 00:58:46-!- Jetrel_ [~Jetrel@c-75-73-180-126.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 00:59:03-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@x2f460b0.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 01:01:01-!- Jetrel [~Jetrel@c-75-73-180-126.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20140211 01:06:14-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-57.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20140211 01:13:40< aquileia> is missile_offset broken? I found no documentation on the wiki and saw no real difference between 0~0.1 and 0~2 20140211 01:16:00< shadowm> Is the frame a missile_frame? 20140211 01:16:08< aquileia> yes 20140211 01:16:25< mattsc> Soliton: is this one done? https://gna.org/bugs/?16001 20140211 01:16:33< mattsc> It looks like you merged it here: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/commit/e827728e78e3ad841b5b5707013568b7c514e402 20140211 01:17:15< mattsc> It's also still mentioned on the EasyCoding page, which is how I came across it. 20140211 01:21:37< aquileia> It could well be that I just don't know how to use it properly. http://pastebin.com/dT4yiAGq 20140211 01:22:37< aquileia> There really isn't much information out there, I simply supposed it would be parallel to the other cases 20140211 01:24:40< shadowm> aquileia: Within the foo_frame you should use offset, not foo_offset. 20140211 01:25:22< aquileia> ok, that explains the last half hour of not getting it right 20140211 01:25:26< aquileia> thanks! 20140211 01:26:53< mattsc> I'll have to get on a plane (yet again), but I'll read the logs later ... 20140211 01:27:11-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.11.10 (start of string+feature freeze) planned for February 22nd | asheviere (old server) will be shut down on 16th Feb 2014, migrate all stuff, cf dev mailinglist | 218 bugs, 347 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! 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An entry for missile_offset would be nice, so this is what I'll add. 20140211 01:47:49< aquileia> Somewhat minimalistic, but matching the overall style. 20140211 01:52:06< shadowm> Except that missile_offset isn't strictly part of the syntax. 20140211 01:52:32< shadowm> It's only part of the syntax as long as there is a missile_frame; same goes for foo_offset and foo_frame. 20140211 02:00:56-!- matijaskala [~matija@149.126.128.0] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 02:02:20-!- matijaskala [~matija@149.126.128.0] has left #wesnoth-dev ["Konversation terminated!"] 20140211 02:07:29-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@g228175031.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140211 02:11:13-!- Velensk [~Velensk@cpe-75-187-86-211.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 02:31:59-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 20140211 02:32:10-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.135.249.95] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 03:01:26-!- yann 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Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20140211 07:33:54< zookeeper> mattsc, i interpret it as meaning that sighted events can never trigger for sides without fog or shroud, except when an ambusher is revealed 20140211 07:34:47< irker039> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master cd5974f5ecaf / data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/scenarios/15_The_Lost_General.cfg: HttT S15: Try to spawn Burlin on a location that's not water http://git.io/_av8kw 20140211 07:34:50< irker039> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 5293851c8efa / data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/scenarios/17_Scepter_of_Fire.cfg: HttT S17: Use [note] for the scenario objective note http://git.io/SJeoVg 20140211 07:35:49< shadowm> Is it intentional that choosing to go down the Arkan-thoria after HttT scenario 18 allows you to make it to Return to Wesnoth with a ridiculous amount of gold? 20140211 07:36:02< shadowm> 1976 gold, to be exact. 20140211 07:36:11< zookeeper> nothing's intentional in that branch, i'm afraid :p 20140211 07:36:31< zookeeper> frankly i'd kinda like to remove it because 1) it was never finished 2) no one wants to finish it 20140211 07:37:08< shadowm> It was fun, though. There's pretty much no other sequence in HttT where I get to make much use of merfolk besides Bay of Pearls. 20140211 07:38:11< shadowm> So that path makes it worth it to keep them around clogging up the recall list. 20140211 07:39:27< shadowm> Also, Delfador's menacing pose portrait doesn't seem intended to be used with ~RIGHT(). A portion of magic lightning is clearly cut off on the left edge of the portrait. 20140211 07:40:41< shadowm> Perhaps it could work as ~FL()~RIGHT(). 20140211 07:42:14< zookeeper> i thought RIGHT would have automatically flipped it, but i guess not 20140211 07:42:34< zookeeper> and why is delfador (almost) always on the right anyway 20140211 07:44:01-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.219.139.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140211 07:47:43-!- boucman_work [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 07:48:30< zookeeper> not to mention the mad variant is used in some pretty weird situations 20140211 07:50:56< vultraz_old> Because he's always right! :p 20140211 07:57:22< shadowm> I assumed you had wired in those. 20140211 07:57:36< zookeeper> nope, i think bumbadadabum did 20140211 08:12:32< irker039> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master a2f1c64eb1f5 / changelog src/game_events/conditional_wml.cpp: Implement [true] and [false] ConditionalWML tags http://git.io/cXbDDQ 20140211 08:13:28 * zookeeper blinks 20140211 08:13:29< zookeeper> what's that 20140211 08:13:53< zookeeper> btw, looks like i've wired in one or two weird portrait variants myself... 20140211 08:14:22< zookeeper> image=portraits/konrad-elvish-mad.png 20140211 08:14:23< zookeeper> message= _ "We have wrested control of the island from the evil undead! Now all we have to do is wait for the ship to arrive, so we can make our way to Elensefar!" 20140211 08:14:26< zookeeper> ... what 20140211 08:20:00-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140211 08:21:52< zookeeper> haha, this line still hasn't died: 20140211 08:21:55< zookeeper> "Come forth and attack, my loyal duelist!" 20140211 08:22:24-!- Fortescue|Home [Fortescue@cpe-65-189-245-210.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 08:24:14-!- Fortescue [Fortescue@cpe-65-189-245-210.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20140211 08:25:14-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 08:32:15-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20140211 08:35:15-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 08:36:15< irker039> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth-old:master a81dfaea0cfa / data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/scenarios/ (5 files): Tweaks to the use of HttT portrait variations. http://git.io/jmykOA 20140211 08:36:17< irker039> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth-old:master 89b11108e588 / changelog src/game_events/conditional_wml.cpp: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old http://git.io/5ggDUA 20140211 08:36:50< zookeeper> huh. i thought github for windows would have been smart enough to avoid merge commits. 20140211 08:38:42< shadowm> There are various cutscenes in HttT where the characters are/may be facing the wrong way, by the way. (Facing for units spawned without an explicit facing appears to be randomized by the engine.) 20140211 08:39:07< zookeeper> yeah, no doubt 20140211 08:39:08< shadowm> Notably, in Plunging into the Darkness, the dwarf leader was facing north the whole time... 20140211 08:40:11-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20140211 08:40:12< shadowm> This used to not be an important issue, but now that that unit type has a north-facing standing animation, well... 20140211 08:40:17-!- exciton_ [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 08:40:33< zookeeper> yeah. i guess we can safely assume that the people who did that won't fix it. 20140211 08:44:15< _8680_> What’s wrong with merge commits? 20140211 08:44:24< zookeeper> they're pure garbage 20140211 08:44:39< _8680_> The official Git UI doesn’t avoid them unless instructed to either. 20140211 08:44:58< irker039> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth-old:master 9f27fad78ff4 / data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/scenarios/ (4 files): More tweaks to use of HttT portrait variations. http://git.io/b0IZkA 20140211 08:47:01-!- Jozrael [~Jozrael@209.133.52.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20140211 08:48:23-!- Jozrael [~Jozrael@12.89.226.214] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 08:52:11-!- Jozrael2 [~Jozrael@cpe-172-251-184-122.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 08:52:21< irker039> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth-old:master 5cffc2683248 / data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Removed ~RIGHT from Delfador's portraits. http://git.io/eZ7U5A 20140211 08:53:06-!- Jozrael [~Jozrael@12.89.226.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20140211 09:06:31-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 09:15:58< shadowm> ... Now clang is hurling nonsensical errors at me. 20140211 09:16:08< shadowm> I'm so, so disappointed. 20140211 09:17:24< shadowm> elias, timotei : If I change the format in which preprocessor and parser errors are displayed, might I accidentally break the UMC IDE or the units.wesnoth.org generation task? 20140211 09:20:23-!- exciton_ [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140211 09:20:37-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 09:21:15< shadowm> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21371130/screenshots/wml-error-1.11.9.png --> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21371130/screenshots/wml-error-1.11.10.png 20140211 09:21:40< zookeeper> well that would be nice! 20140211 09:28:44< shadowm> I'm getting this crap from clang for swapping two GUI2 dialog interface headers that have absolutely nothing to do with hotkeys: http://pastebin.com/qm51jec5 20140211 09:29:27< shadowm> gui/dialogs/message.hpp (gui/dialogs/dialog.hpp, gui/widgets/control.hpp) with gui/dialogs/wml_error.hpp (gui/dialogs/dialog.hpp). 20140211 09:34:45< shadowm> Oh, gcc does it too. 20140211 09:35:31< shadowm> Including gui/widgets/control.hpp in gui/dialogs/wml_error.hpp fixes it... for whatever reason. 20140211 09:37:43< shadowm> Oh I see. 20140211 09:38:42< shadowm> gui/widgets/control.hpp <- gui/widgets/widget.hpp <- gui/auxiliary/event/dispatcher.hpp <- hotkey/hotkey_command.hpp. 20140211 09:52:43< Soliton> mattsc: indeed it is, i've closed the bug. thus it should also be removed from the EasyCoding page. thanks for the heads-up. 20140211 09:55:26-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20140211 10:00:24-!- stikonas [~gentoo@cpc18-sgyl27-2-0-cust35.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 10:00:25-!- stikonas [~gentoo@cpc18-sgyl27-2-0-cust35.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Changing host] 20140211 10:00:25-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 10:03:14-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@2001:738:5404:192:9e4e:36ff:fe7c:534c] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 10:07:08-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20140211 10:10:23-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.135.249.92] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 10:18:53-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20140211 10:26:38-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@2001:738:5404:192:9e4e:36ff:fe7c:534c] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20140211 10:36:39-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 10:39:12-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@g228201018.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 10:39:20-!- Jozrael2 [~Jozrael@cpe-172-251-184-122.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20140211 10:39:22-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140211 10:39:36-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 10:39:45-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has quit [Client Quit] 20140211 10:43:04-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@2001:738:5404:192:9e4e:36ff:fe7c:534c] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 10:48:57-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140211 10:49:11-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 10:54:14-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@2001:738:5404:192:9e4e:36ff:fe7c:534c] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20140211 10:55:39-!- stikonas [~gentoo@maths-pgs-002.maths.ed.ac.uk] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 10:55:39-!- stikonas [~gentoo@maths-pgs-002.maths.ed.ac.uk] has quit [Changing host] 20140211 10:55:39-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 10:58:33< fendrin> zookeeper: The "Far North Map". What is labeled "Lintanir Forest" should be "Green Forest", right? 20140211 10:58:34-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@2001:738:5404:192:9e4e:36ff:fe7c:534c] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 10:59:07< zookeeper> fendrin, no, it's lintanir 20140211 11:01:50< fendrin> zookeeper: Okay, what happened to the green one? 20140211 11:02:19< fendrin> Moved or cut away by orcs? 20140211 11:02:27< zookeeper> cut away by me 20140211 11:03:02< zookeeper> or merged with the other forest to make greenwood, if you prefer 20140211 11:03:46< fendrin> I see. 20140211 11:04:10< fendrin> Is there a huge overview map? 20140211 11:04:53< zookeeper> a simple sketch of masks, yes, but not a real map 20140211 11:05:41-!- shadowm [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20140211 11:06:36< fendrin> zookeeper: Ah yes, you showed me that sketch once for selecting which part is needed for LoW. Would you give me a link again, please? 20140211 11:06:42< zookeeper> http://imagebin.org/292715 20140211 11:06:48< fendrin> Thank you :-) 20140211 11:07:32-!- shadowm [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 11:08:07< zookeeper> the east and south are obviously undetailed 20140211 11:09:48< fendrin> It is already a little out of sync with the "Far North Map", isn't it? 20140211 11:10:23< zookeeper> where? 20140211 11:12:02< fendrin> The forest right to Linarig + river is missing. 20140211 11:12:52< zookeeper> what? 20140211 11:13:40< fendrin> You moved it to the north. 20140211 11:13:50< zookeeper> i have no idea what you're trying to refer to 20140211 11:17:31< fendrin> http://imagebin.org/292717 20140211 11:18:16< zookeeper> you're looking at an old map 20140211 11:19:27< fendrin> Okay, that explains everything :-) 20140211 11:19:45-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140211 11:19:59-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 11:31:05-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140211 11:31:19-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 11:53:02-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@2001:738:5404:192:9e4e:36ff:fe7c:534c] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20140211 11:59:09-!- Gambit [~derek@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 12:04:26-!- alcedine [~alcedine@151.236.26.17] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 12:06:56-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140211 12:07:10-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 12:22:24-!- Gambit [~derek@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140211 12:42:06-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.135.249.92] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140211 12:42:22-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.135.249.92] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 12:53:12-!- happygrue [~happygrue@c-66-30-155-184.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 12:53:12-!- happygrue [~happygrue@c-66-30-155-184.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 20140211 12:53:12-!- happygrue [~happygrue@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 12:57:21-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20140211 12:57:22-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 13:03:51-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.135.249.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20140211 13:03:52-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20140211 13:05:15-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 13:23:12-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140211 13:23:46-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 13:27:11-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.11.10 (start of string+feature freeze) planned for February 22nd | asheviere (old server) will be shut down on 16th Feb 2014, migrate all stuff, cf dev mailinglist | 219 bugs, 346 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20140211 13:27:50-!- Kostic [~Kostic@85.202.113.76] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 13:28:01-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20140211 13:32:37-!- Kostic [~Kostic@85.202.113.76] has quit [Client Quit] 20140211 13:33:01-!- Kostic [~Kostic@85.202.113.238] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 13:34:40-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20140211 13:35:15-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 13:36:01-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140211 13:40:15-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 13:44:00-!- Kostic [~Kostic@85.202.113.238] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20140211 13:52:13-!- Kostic [~Kostic@85.202.113.55] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 13:55:14-!- cib0 [~cib@p5DD209BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 13:59:38< fendrin> zookeeper: Is there a manual how to produce one of your maps? 20140211 14:00:13-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20140211 14:10:02-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140211 14:10:36-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 14:20:17-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 14:29:16-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20140211 14:30:17-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 14:34:23< zookeeper> fendrin, no, i just have my own notes on it which probably aren't very useful for someone else... or at least won't get them all the way 20140211 14:36:40-!- Kostic [~Kostic@85.202.113.55] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20140211 14:37:51< zookeeper> not to mention there's two external programs needed, one of which is windows-only 20140211 14:38:02< vultraz_old> Photoshop? 20140211 14:38:05< zookeeper> no 20140211 14:38:14< vultraz_old> Hm..what, then 20140211 14:38:45< zookeeper> http://www.cartographersguild.com/mapping-elements/11361-treething.html and http://www.ridgenet.net/~jslayton/wilbur.html 20140211 14:39:28< zookeeper> anyway, i've of course thought about writing the whole process down, but it'd be a lot of work and i've had a lot of other things to do, so... 20140211 14:39:33-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140211 14:39:48-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 14:40:06< vultraz_old> You came up with the method yourself? 20140211 14:40:30< zookeeper> yes 20140211 14:40:36< zookeeper> oh, make that three external programs 20140211 14:40:41< zookeeper> 3ds max D: 20140211 14:40:52< vultraz_old> Wow 20140211 14:41:01< zookeeper> and photoshop, but that i used only for the labels and you could make do with GIMP 20140211 14:41:32< zookeeper> i completely forgot about max for a moment, it's needed for the hills and mountains 20140211 14:42:10< vultraz_old> You really should write it down at some point,in case you're hit by a bus 20140211 14:42:48< zookeeper> sure 20140211 14:47:03-!- exciton_ [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 14:50:44-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20140211 14:51:09< mjs-de> ich installiere auf der DNS VM gerade mal less und vim, ich hoffe da hat niemand was dagegen 20140211 14:52:04< fendrin> mjs-de: Wrong channel? 20140211 14:52:39< vultraz_old> what does that even mean o-O 20140211 14:55:18< mjs-de> ups sorry 20140211 14:56:08-!- irker039 [~irker@ai0867.net] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20140211 14:56:27-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 15:01:23-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20140211 15:04:41-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-57.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 15:07:11-!- knotwork_ [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20140211 15:07:26-!- knotwork_ [~markm@142.68.215.102] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 15:07:26-!- knotwork_ [~markm@142.68.215.102] has quit [Changing host] 20140211 15:07:26-!- knotwork_ [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 15:10:52-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-57.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20140211 15:14:42-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@g228201018.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20140211 15:22:43-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@f049142127.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 15:39:11-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 15:55:59-!- mattsc [~mattsc@BeaverNet-166.caltech.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 16:09:24-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.135.134.73] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 16:15:07-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.135.134.73] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140211 16:15:24-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.135.134.73] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 16:16:46-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.135.134.73] has quit [Client Quit] 20140211 16:25:37-!- trademark [~trademark@nsg93-8-88-175-59-164.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 16:33:32< mattsc> Soliton: thanks. I've removed it from the EasyCoding page. 20140211 16:34:39< mattsc> I've also updated the AI tasks and removed a couple other ones that are obviously done, but I really don't know much about most of the other topics. 20140211 16:35:13-!- Kostic [~Kostic@85.202.113.238] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 16:35:47< mattsc> So if others could go over the page and (specifically also) add tasks, that would be very good. These are always very popular during the GSoC student application period. 20140211 16:52:11-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 17:04:24-!- boucman_work [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20140211 17:16:53-!- thunderstruck [~zaibotren@cpc13-sgyl31-2-0-cust696.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 17:22:29-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc1-finc14-2-0-cust12.4-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 17:40:51-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.219.139.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 17:50:17-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140211 17:50:50-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 17:51:53-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20140211 17:55:33-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20140211 18:01:40-!- exciton_ [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140211 18:03:23-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20140211 18:06:55-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 18:13:16-!- Jozrael [~Jozrael@209.133.52.235] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 18:20:43-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 18:31:04-!- aquileia [93aba7b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.171.167.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20140211 18:32:44-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 18:33:23-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 18:40:30-!- knotwork_ [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20140211 18:40:53-!- knotwork [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 18:45:50< elias> shadowm: the error format is broken anyway, since it doesn't handle names with spaces 20140211 18:47:50< elias> so for units.wesnoth.org, worst case i still can't parse errors, best case the new format allows me to parse them :) 20140211 18:55:51-!- aquileia [93aba5a3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.171.165.163] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 19:00:17-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc1-finc14-2-0-cust12.4-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140211 19:16:34-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 19:18:31< mattsc> Crab_: hi. Good timing, I have a question. ;) 20140211 19:18:41< Crab_> hello 20140211 19:19:40-!- Kostic [~Kostic@85.202.113.238] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20140211 19:19:49< mattsc> If I want to check in Lua if the [ai][avoid] tag is set, I cannot use ai.get_avoid() because an empty table returned might mean that it is not set or that no hexes satisfy the filter. 20140211 19:20:15< Ivanovic> Crab_, AI0867, mordante, mattsc, trademark, thunderstruck, everyone else interested in gsoc 2014: the ideas list could use a little more ideas 20140211 19:20:22< mattsc> So if I want to figure that out, do I need to go through the table dump of wesnoth.sides, or is there an easier way? 20140211 19:20:29< Ivanovic> there are only three ideas listed so far, one of them being "create your own" 20140211 19:20:36< Ivanovic> with this we will *not* be accepted! 20140211 19:20:40< Ivanovic> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SummerOfCodeIdeas 20140211 19:21:37< Crab_> mattsc: what's the practical difference? 20140211 19:22:28< mattsc> I have a micro AI that should use the [ai][avoid] SLF if set, or a default otherwise. 20140211 19:22:51< mattsc> It should still use [ai][avoid] even if no hexes satisfy the filter. 20140211 19:23:22< Crab_> mattsc: afair, the default [avoid] aspect is '[not][/not]' - implemented as 'filter that satisfies no hexes' 20140211 19:23:43< mattsc> Crab_: I believe that is true. 20140211 19:24:21< mattsc> So I do need to go through the side table and see whether it is set to that? 20140211 19:24:37< mattsc> Actually, no, I don't. 20140211 19:24:57< mattsc> I can see if there is a non-default facet - but I still need to search the table for it. 20140211 19:25:15 * Ivanovic fears that we will not be accepted because there are just *NO* ideas listed... 20140211 19:25:51< mattsc> Ivanovic: possible AI projects would have been my next question for Crab_. As I said, I cannot be the main mentor for a project this summer. 20140211 19:26:27< mattsc> Also, the types of AI projects that Wesnoth typically does (and that make sense IMO) are not exactly my field of expertise. 20140211 19:26:33< vultraz_old> what about fendrin's suggestion to bring back ranged attacking? 20140211 19:26:52< Crab_> mattsc: so, if someone sets the filter to [not][/not], you won't be able to figure that out from the value of the filter itself in any way, checking the side table looks like a better idea 20140211 19:26:56< Crab_> Ivanovic: noted. 20140211 19:27:17< Crab_> Ivanovic: when the deadline is? 20140211 19:27:32< vultraz_old> I believe he mentioned the AI being better suited for such thing now - perhaps there could be a project for resurrecting he behavior and adapting the ai 20140211 19:27:38< vultraz_old> (just my 2cents) 20140211 19:27:53< mattsc> Crab_: yeah - it's not that hard to do, I just need to search a few levels down in the table. 20140211 19:27:54< Ivanovic> Crab_: friday at 19:00 in europe 20140211 19:28:33< Ivanovic> mattsc: maybe you have some idea for a lua based ai project which AI0867 could mentor with you and Crab_ as support? 20140211 19:29:51< mattsc> Ivanovic, Crab_: I'd love to have a "figure out how to do a defensive unit positioning CA" project, but that's very much a bottomless pit with no clear end to the project. 20140211 19:30:08< mattsc> I just don't know if it makes a good GSoC project. 20140211 19:30:50< Crab_> mattsc: for 'defensive positioning' - I was toying with that as gsoc idea for ~3 years, it usually attracts a lot of attention but no student was able to convince me to try this as a project 20140211 19:31:03-!- aquileia [93aba5a3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.171.165.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20140211 19:31:06< mattsc> I do have such CAs in several of my AIs, but they don't work very well and I honestly don't know what to do about that. 20140211 19:31:20< mattsc> Crab_: yes 20140211 19:31:38< mattsc> It could just be that I don't know what I am doing ... 20140211 19:32:02< Crab_> mattsc: there's some low hanging fruit like retreating at-or-before wrong time of day, and some possibilities for data-driven testing, but overall it's not looking very good 20140211 19:32:10< mattsc> Well, I do know for sure that I don't know what I am doing, but it could be that that's the reason why I am not getting anywhere with it rather than that it's inherently hard (is what I meant) 20140211 19:32:43< mattsc> Crab_: yes, agreed. 20140211 19:33:05< vultraz_old> Perhaps a student might come up with a better take? (ignore me if I'm just making noise) 20140211 19:33:11< mattsc> I am planning to get back to that (working on this aspect of the 'Fred' AI) as soon as I am done with SotBE, btw. 20140211 19:33:42< Crab_> mattsc: what you're planning/doing with the SotBE, btw? 20140211 19:33:46< mattsc> vultraz_old: that's what I mean. I don't know if I am having problem because I am too stupid, or because the task is hard. 20140211 19:34:05< mattsc> Crab_: turning it into an expert-level campaign :) 20140211 19:34:13< Crab_> ah, I see :) interesting 20140211 19:34:30< mattsc> Just rebalancing. I've added a few AI tidbits, but nothing too exciting 20140211 19:35:37< mattsc> Unfortauntely, rebalancing is a slow (and somewhat tedious) process, so it's taking a long time ... 20140211 19:36:10< mattsc> But there's no going back at this time, so I need to have it done before 1.12.0 20140211 19:37:09< mattsc> Crab_: so what sort of AI projects are you imagining, if any? 20140211 19:37:44< Crab_> mattsc: don't know yet - will take a look at proposed untaken ideas from previous years, to see if I can find something there 20140211 19:37:57< vultraz_old> mattsc: perhaps it's worth listing in any case 20140211 19:38:01-!- stikonas [~gentoo@cpc18-sgyl27-2-0-cust35.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 19:38:02-!- stikonas [~gentoo@cpc18-sgyl27-2-0-cust35.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Changing host] 20140211 19:38:02-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 19:38:47< mattsc> vultraz_old: as I said, I'm not available for full-time mentoring this summer, so it should only be listed if somebody else is able and willing to take the lead on it. 20140211 19:39:09< mattsc> Crab_: ok. I'm traveling this week, but will check the logs for periods when I am not online. 20140211 19:39:19< mattsc> (mostly I am just sitting in meetings with my laptop) 20140211 19:39:40< Crab_> mattsc: ok, will write here if/when I find something useful 20140211 19:39:55< mattsc> Crab_: great, thanks 20140211 19:50:38-!- iwaim___ [~iwaim@2001:2c0:40e:2002:0:4:14:80] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20140211 19:51:49-!- iwaim___ [~iwaim@2001:2c0:40e:2002:0:4:14:80] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 20:05:47-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has quit [Quit: Crab_] 20140211 20:07:55-!- thunderstruck [~zaibotren@cpc13-sgyl31-2-0-cust696.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20140211 20:08:13-!- cib0 [~cib@p5DD209BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140211 20:09:09-!- cib0 [~cib@p5DD209BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 20:13:59-!- thunderstruck [~zaibotren@149.254.182.50] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 20:21:11-!- EdB [~edb@85.69.242.6] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 20:31:01-!- thunderstruck [~zaibotren@149.254.182.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20140211 20:32:40-!- thunderstruck [~zaibotren@cpc13-sgyl31-2-0-cust696.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 20:34:39-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20140211 20:35:46-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 20:50:02-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140211 20:50:16-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 20:55:19-!- exciton_ [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 20:56:02-!- exciton_ [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140211 20:58:00-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20140211 20:59:33-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20140211 21:00:08-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 21:02:18-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 21:03:32-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20140211 21:04:12-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20140211 21:05:18-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 21:06:12-!- yann [~dwitch@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140211 21:10:07< timotei> shadowm: It doesn't break anything on the UMC IDE. I use just the output of the preprocessor. 20140211 21:10:23< timotei> So, you can go on enhancing/fixing those error messages :) 20140211 21:17:50< AI0867> fendrin: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=566902#p566902 20140211 21:18:31-!- Kostic [~Kostic@net250-1-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 21:22:01-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 21:23:28-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 21:28:08< shadowm> wesbot: seen LordBob_ 20140211 21:28:08< wesbot> shadowm: The person with the nick LordBob_ last spoke 7d 12h ago. 3d 5h ago they left with the message: Quit: LordBob_ 20140211 21:34:40< happygrue> with regard to GSoC, I've had two items on my wishlist for a while but I really have no idea if either one would be something that could happen over GSoC (or be worth it, etc.): 20140211 21:35:33< happygrue> 1. Stats for the multiplayer server. I recall this being started at one point, but AFAIK there is not a place where we can check stuff like win % of races on various maps, which eras are most played etc. There are a great many stats that could be tracked and would be very interesting 20140211 21:36:50< shadowm> Couldn't GUI2 framework/widget tasks (e.g. combo box, tabs/pagination widget) be made into GSoC ideas? (That's really a question for mordante, I guess.) 20140211 21:38:11< shadowm> Or maybe converting wesnothd (and campaignd?) to use Boost.asio, but that was loonycyborg's own personal project IIRC. 20140211 21:38:49< happygrue> 2. New game type(s). I have wished for a capture the flag style game, or better yet support for victory points, with in game sliders allowing some customization for turns and victory points per turn and such. Also support for such locations in the editor (which seems trivial) so that maps could be created for such games. 20140211 21:39:35< happygrue> WML can do 2 of course, but such a style of game isn't really going to take off unless there is support in the game for easy creation and tweaking of such maps I think 20140211 21:39:42-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20140211 21:39:47< happygrue> the idea being: games can be really long when played with unlimited turns 20140211 21:39:48< shadowm> (Should I take my questionst to the ML?) 20140211 21:40:47< happygrue> it's why I don't play much at present, because a game *could* take 4 hours if it is back and forth enough. Playing with victory points at certain locations and a fixed number of turns would help game stay short enough to schedule better IMO. 20140211 21:40:57-!- Gambit [~derek@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 21:40:57< zookeeper> happygrue, there should now be support for custom sliders in the game creation screen 20140211 21:41:15< happygrue> interesting 20140211 21:41:48< zookeeper> that's through the modification system, i dunno if there's any way to for example tie them into a specific scenario or whether you always have to explicitly select the mods you want to use 20140211 21:49:02< zookeeper> yes, you can 20140211 21:52:30< happygrue> mmm 20140211 21:53:29< AI0867> happygrue: one of the problems with MP stats is that games are rarely played to completion 20140211 21:55:32-!- EdB [~edb@85.69.242.6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20140211 21:58:55-!- Kostic [~Kostic@net250-1-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20140211 22:00:07< happygrue> that is true 20140211 22:00:33-!- irker302 [~irker@ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 22:00:33< irker302> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 77d258474e0b / data/ai/micro_ais/cas/ca_hang_out.lua: Hang Out MAI: use [ai][avoid] if [micro_ai][avoid] is not given http://git.io/8JjTNw 20140211 22:01:28-!- trademark [~trademark@nsg93-8-88-175-59-164.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20140211 22:02:14-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 22:04:58-!- aquileia [25a28c84@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.162.140.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 22:08:13-!- Kostic [~Kostic@net140-1-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 22:08:56-!- Kostic [~Kostic@net140-1-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20140211 22:12:33< aquileia> zookeeper: new shadow mages with adequate ranged animations on https://github.com/aquileia/wesnoth-resources 20140211 22:19:23< aquileia> I can't make a pull request without downloading the repo I think, and that is out of question with my current internet connection... so putting them in a separate one is all I can do, sorry 20140211 22:20:35-!- cib0 [~cib@p5DD209BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20140211 22:27:25-!- thunderstruck [~zaibotren@cpc13-sgyl31-2-0-cust696.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20140211 22:31:21< zookeeper> aquileia, that's fine, i've never dealt with pull requests anyway :p 20140211 22:31:43< aquileia> ok 20140211 22:37:44< aquileia> happygrue: By the way, the first batch of cropped khalifate units are there, too. 20140211 22:40:17< shadowm> BOOST_FOREACH(const std::string& uc, user_files) { 20140211 22:40:20< shadowm> const std::string file = uc; 20140211 22:40:39< shadowm> In src/game_config_manager.cpp game_config_manager::load_addons_cfg() around line 210. 20140211 22:40:43< happygrue> ah, thanks aquileia 20140211 22:40:53< happygrue> did you see he posted a bunch more in the thread? 20140211 22:40:55< shadowm> I've got to wonder what was the logic applied here. 20140211 22:41:13< happygrue> I was going to wait a bit to see if they change based on feedback before adding them 20140211 22:41:15< aquileia> I saw them and commented 20140211 22:41:28< happygrue> ah, been busy, I'm a bit behind in many things right now :D 20140211 22:42:10-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20140211 22:42:20< shadowm> const int size_minus_extension = file.size() - 4; 20140211 22:42:27< shadowm> if(file.substr(size_minus_extension, file.size()) == ".cfg") { 20140211 22:42:52< shadowm> No check done for a filename with byte count < 4. 20140211 22:43:33< shadowm> It seems the last author of these lines is thunderstruck. 20140211 22:43:50< aquileia> Reminds me that it was me who ask you whether you saw version 6, just to remember that you are Wintermute over there. Same thing 20140211 22:43:56< shadowm> But I _think_ the code is originally AI0867's? 20140211 22:48:18< shadowm> std::basic_string::substr()'s first argument is a size_t, if I have a file named 'foo' that means it's an int(-1) cast to size_t, but isn't that supposed to throw std::out_of_range? 20140211 22:49:27< shadowm> Oh, never mind, I forgot it requests ENTIRE_FILE_PATH, so the path can never be shorter than std::string(".cfg"). 20140211 22:50:15< shadowm> Probably, until the day comes it becomes possible to tell Wesnoth to check under / instead of data/add-ons/. 20140211 22:53:57-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140211 22:59:33-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140211 23:06:41-!- cib0 [~cib@p5DD209BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140211 23:13:55< shadowm> N_("$error, value '$value' at $pos"))); 20140211 23:14:15< shadowm> Exactly to whom is this information in parser error s supposed to be useful? 20140211 23:14:43< shadowm> To me it seems to be exposing an implementation detail (the tokenizer) to an audience that has no idea what that even is. 20140211 23:15:04-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20140211 23:27:19< EliDupree> Is [filter_vision] buggy in the current trunk? 20140211 23:27:35< EliDupree> It's working fine for shroud, but every hex is showing up as fogged. 20140211 23:45:14-!- aquileia [25a28c84@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.162.140.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20140211 23:45:39-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@f049142127.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140211 23:50:43-!- cib0 [~cib@p5DD209BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20140211 23:51:32< mattsc> EliDupree: I made a recent change to filter_vision (bug fix for hidden units under fog; no shroud), but tested it in a fogged scenario and it seemed to work correctly. 20140211 23:52:04< EliDupree> How recently? 20140211 23:53:15< mattsc> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/commit/22dec61d3e1321934834f93f6376255305f0861c 20140211 23:54:08< EliDupree> hmm 20140211 23:54:31< mattsc> EliDupree: this is for SUFs only, not SLFs, btw 20140211 23:54:41< EliDupree> Well I've been using it with wesnoth.match_location in Lua, and wesnoth.match_unit with a private unit 20140211 23:54:56< EliDupree> Both make everything fogged 20140211 23:55:06< EliDupree> I guess I could check it with a real unit 20140211 23:56:43< EliDupree> hmm... nope, can't make it show up as visible 20140211 23:57:48< mattsc> And if you try with WML? --- Log closed Wed Feb 12 00:00:18 2014