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20140219 00:52:57< shadowm> I thought phpBB used to not let moderators in when the board was disabled, meh.
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20140219 01:42:13< janebot> Wesnoth Forums | Developers’ Discussions • [STATUS] Unscheduled Wesnoth.org maintenance downtime by shadowm [ 02-19-2014 01:41 ] [ http://r.wesnoth.org/p567110 ]
20140219 01:45:51-!- shadowm changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.11.10 (start of string+feature freeze) planned for February 22nd | 222 bugs, 350 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Alternate logs: http://wesnoth.debian.net | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20140219 01:56:53< iceiceice> SigurdFD: Come chat with me if you see this tonight.
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20140219 02:27:21< shadowm> I had stuff pending to do with the forums once they were back online, what was it?
20140219 02:28:58< shadowm> Oh right.
20140219 02:29:25< shadowm> iceiceice: Congratulations, you are a developer now! (In the forums.) Be sure to read the PM that's awaiting in your inbox.
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20140219 05:03:12< shadowm> I completed TRoW! What mainline campaign shall have the dubious honor of being the next one I play to the end?
20140219 05:04:29< mattsc> SotBE - on nightmare
20140219 05:05:11< shadowm> ._.
20140219 05:06:30< shadowm> I'm going to play LoW.
20140219 05:07:27< mattsc> :(
20140219 05:07:33< mattsc> :D
20140219 05:08:20< shadowm> Last time I tried to play it I ragequit around the sixth scenario or so? Whichever scenario is the second time the player arrives to Wesmere.
20140219 05:08:55< shadowm> Partly because I found the multiple recruit lists mechanic confusing and frustrating.
20140219 05:13:52< vultraz> Hm...
20140219 05:13:56< vultraz> I also need to play LoW
20140219 05:14:04< vultraz> I have never gotten past scenario 2
20140219 05:14:21< vultraz> me and bumba were going to do a youtube lp of it but that went nowhere >_>
20140219 05:14:25< vultraz> also SotBE
20140219 05:14:28< vultraz> and uhhh
20140219 05:14:46< vultraz> I think I played everything else
20140219 05:15:03< shadowm> I've never completed LoW, DM, SotBE, or DW.
20140219 05:15:08< vultraz> (yes, including the last scenario of THoT *shudder*)
20140219 05:15:13< vultraz> Oh right, DM
20140219 05:15:16< vultraz> never finished that
20140219 05:15:44< vultraz> shadowm: who designed the last scenario of THoT again?
20140219 05:15:47< mattsc> I guess I've completed all but NR - of which I refused to play the last scenario.
20140219 05:15:51< shadowm> Taurus.
20140219 05:15:57< mattsc> *last three scenarios
20140219 05:16:39< shadowm> I was fairly close to finishing THoT once, but I ragequit during the last quarter of _that_ scenario.
20140219 05:16:51< shadowm> So I guess that's another item for my list.
20140219 05:17:03< shadowm> And I guess I've never played the second branch of TSG.
20140219 05:17:46< shadowm> Oh uh actually I've never completed SoF either.
20140219 05:17:54< vultraz> I also never played the last scenario of NR, actually
20140219 05:17:58< vultraz> it was too big
20140219 05:18:15< shadowm> I did, on an Intel Celeron with 256 MiB of RAM <insert rant here>.
20140219 05:18:36< shadowm> As amusing as that story is, that was long before it hit mainline.
20140219 05:18:40< vultraz> What was that, tinycore?
20140219 05:19:16< shadowm> No, it was blackcore's predecessor, <Unnamed computer #2>.
20140219 05:20:08< shadowm> Hm, I think UtBS is really the first campaign I ever completed without cheating... back when it was UMC.
20140219 05:21:05< vultraz> Ya know, I think I'm going to improve the last scenario of THoT when I get my laptop back
20140219 05:21:51< shadowm> It's not a bug, it's a feature™.
20140219 05:22:03< shadowm> Same goes for the entirety of NR assuming it hasn't bit-rotted to hell.
20140219 05:22:37< vultraz> It's a bad feature
20140219 05:22:51< vultraz> It took be upward of 150 turns to complete
20140219 05:24:55< vultraz> shadowm: it's basically AtS E2S10 but worse
20140219 05:30:11< vultraz> So yeah. I shall pull a mattsc and fix it
20140219 05:30:51< shadowm> Uh huh, good luck becoming an AI expert.
20140219 05:31:20< vultraz> Not AI specifically. More like make it not so damn LONG
20140219 05:31:41< vultraz> half of the time I was just moving units and doing nothing whatsoever
20140219 05:32:31< vultraz> at least in NR you're fighting
20140219 05:33:12< vultraz> But I can't do anything on this computer bc it takes 10 minutes to load wesnoth
20140219 05:33:15< shadowm> Ugh, it's very hard to tell Kalenz and Landar apart from other loyal fighters/archers.
20140219 05:33:34< shadowm> The crowns look too much like the loyal ring overlays.
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20140219 06:00:41< shadowm> LoW scenario 2 has no story map.
20140219 06:01:16< shadowm> And... I guess I can't recruit scouts? Huh.
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20140219 06:25:08< mattsc> What?  Did anybody mention my name?
20140219 06:25:37< shadowm> Neither does scenario 3...
20140219 06:32:29< vultraz> mattsc: only in passing
20140219 06:33:05< mattsc> vultraz: ah, good then  (I was busy drinking beer to warm up)
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20140219 09:40:02< irker333> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master eadb22f67b5b / data/gui/default/widget/label_default.cfg: gui2/tlabel: Add gold_small variation http://git.io/EGYgQQ
20140219 09:40:05< irker333> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master a9c93201c80d / / (8 files in 3 dirs): theme ui, gui2/ttheme_list: New theme chooser, implement [theme] description http://git.io/3Sg-9g
20140219 09:40:08< irker333> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 1ce9448b1e92 / data/themes/ (default.cfg pandora.cfg unit_box.cfg widescreen.cfg): theme ui: Add descriptions to the user-visible mainline themes http://git.io/Q1ocaA
20140219 09:40:11< irker333> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master d6d2d2a9ff3d / changelog: Update changelogs http://git.io/EySKNA
20140219 09:41:15< irker333> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 87c57ca6c01d / data/gui/default/window/theme_list.cfg: gui2/ttheme_list: Replace unwieldy message text http://git.io/_K-FPg
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20140219 09:56:47< shadowm> fendrin: My descriptions from http://git.io/Q1ocaA are correct, I hope?
20140219 09:57:16< shadowm> (And before anyone asks, yes, I'm looking into implementing [theme] id and making name translatable.)
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20140219 10:20:47< shadowm> aquileia: You wanted to ask me something a couple of days ago, I think?
20140219 10:22:09< aquileia> It was just a proposal for an easier procedure concerning the 'blog' thread to be created
20140219 10:22:40< aquileia> I prepared a message, but can't find it anymore... so I'll write it again
20140219 10:24:54< shadowm> Sure, I'm all ears. Er, or eyes, I guess.
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20140219 10:32:30< aquileia> The current model is counting on manual transfer to the news section. My idea would require a proofreader forum group and something similar to wesbot, I think. If a proofreader wants to announce a proof-read version of a post in the 'news proposal' thread, he would just have to reply with this version preceded by a '\news' command. The bot checks the thread for this command and - if the author has proof read rights - automatical
20140219 10:33:04< zookeeper> cut off at "automatical"
20140219 10:34:00< aquileia> Due to technical problems or insufficent trust of proof readers?
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20140219 10:34:36< zookeeper> no, i mean you reached the irc message limit (or whatever) at "automatical" and we never saw any of the rest.
20140219 10:34:45< aquileia> ah, ok
20140219 10:34:58< aquileia> automatically releases it on the main page. This would keep proof reading simple, but free you from pointless work.
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20140219 10:35:42< zookeeper> i find it odd that no one's solved that problem one way or another. either your client or freenode or something should tell you your message was truncated.
20140219 10:36:33< aquileia> I was just copying the second half, but then saw your post and misunderstood it... but thanks for the hint
20140219 10:36:37< zookeeper> if it's all done client-side then there's a lot of crappy clients around
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20140219 10:38:05< vultraz> on chatzilla it just truncates it and sticks it on a new line if the message is too long
20140219 10:38:41< zookeeper> aquileia, oh right.
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20140219 10:40:02< shadowm> IIRC the IRC RFCs don't allow for many possible server responses to PRIVMSG.
20140219 10:41:15< shadowm> aquileia: The bot would require SSH access to the server so that's not much of an improvement IMO.
20140219 10:41:50< shadowm> Oh, and someone would need to code the bot. I for one swore off IRC bot coding forever.
20140219 10:44:04< aquileia> I didn't mean a IRC bot, but the SSH issue is the same for others - proposal withdrawn, I guess.
20140219 10:44:23< aquileia> s/a/an
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20140219 11:02:38-!- Topic for #wesnoth-dev: 1.11.10 (start of string+feature freeze) planned for February 22nd | 222 bugs, 350 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Alternate logs: http://wesnoth.debian.net | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20140219 11:02:38-!- Topic set by shadowm [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] [Wed Feb 19 01:45:51 2014]
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20140219 11:02:38-!- Irssi: #wesnoth-dev: Total of 59 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 59 normal]
20140219 11:02:45-!- Channel #wesnoth-dev created Tue Jan 27 05:28:41 2009
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20140219 11:30:17< shadowm> Argh.
20140219 11:30:54< shadowm> My previous proof-of-concept for the theme selector slipped into that commit. :x
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20140219 11:39:14< irker333> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 0752af913729 / src/game_preferences_display.cpp: preferences: Remove broken theme selection proof-of-concept code leftovers http://git.io/cAacAg
20140219 11:50:13< shadowm> Huh. :\
20140219 11:51:11< shadowm> Ah, nvm. I mistook display::get_theme() for controller_base::get_theme().
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20140219 11:57:15< irker333> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 4a44369d8ab0 / / (6 files in 3 dirs): theme ui: Implement [theme] id= attribute, defaults to name= http://git.io/PajEWQ
20140219 11:57:18< irker333> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 91cbc9aff14c / data/themes/ (default.cfg editor.cfg null.cfg pandora.cfg unit_box.cfg widescreen.cfg): theme ui: Convert mainline themes to use id= and translatable name= values http://git.io/OLT0oQ
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20140219 12:24:23< aquileia> Coffee_irc: Hmm... image_diagonal is great, but having to handle haloes seperately seems impractical. 
20140219 12:24:52< aquileia> Or do I overlook something?
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20140219 13:07:58< aquileia> zookeeper: Welcome to your daily dose of reminder! Today's issue features a last tweak to the ranged animations of shadowm.ages.
20140219 13:09:28 * zookeeper notes
20140219 13:09:42< aquileia> It is up to you to decide whether you like the sword as the source of the shadow bolt
20140219 13:11:33< shadowm> shadowm.ages? Yes, I guess that's a property of shadowm I wish was always false.
20140219 13:12:43< aquileia> Sorry, I couldn't resist...
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20140219 14:48:39< Dugi> trademark: If you are there, can you please read the PM I sent you on the forums?
20140219 14:59:01< trademark> Dugi, hi, I gonna read it
20140219 14:59:04< trademark> (now)
20140219 14:59:11< Dugi> trademark: Thanks.
20140219 15:00:17< trademark> your work will be only on the client side, right?
20140219 15:00:45< trademark> but I guess you'll need to extend the protocol if someone rank an add-on
20140219 15:01:22< trademark> would you?
20140219 15:01:37< Dugi> trademark: The client needs to download some extra data that would have to be stored by the server.
20140219 15:01:53< trademark> how will you update a rank?
20140219 15:03:07< Dugi> I haven't studied the source code enough yet, but I suppose that it should be done in a similar way than counting the downloads is done.
20140219 15:03:55< trademark> no because the download request already exists
20140219 15:04:05< trademark> will you need to add a client/server request?
20140219 15:04:09< trademark> for this specific purpose
20140219 15:04:39< trademark> firstly, how the user is supposed to vote?
20140219 15:05:29< Dugi> Using some added elements to the add-on descriptions's GUI. I have some experience with Wesnoth's GUI.
20140219 15:06:31< Dugi> Maybe an imput box or a slider.
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20140219 15:09:34< Dugi> trademark: And yes, it will need a new client/server request. I haven't properly understood your question.
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20140219 15:20:55< trademark> Well, it's not really a problem but the add-on server is not done yet, you could add this feature to the old and current running server, if you do that be sure to code such that a future integration will be easy
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20140219 15:27:08< Dugi> trademark: The old add-on server is actually a fork or something? I have the 1.11.9 version, so I suppose that that is the old one. I have no idea what changes are you doing, I can try to separate it mostly into new functions, but if you're doing some sort of deep refactoring, that won't help.
20140219 15:28:13< trademark> it's a rewrite so yeah it's pretty deep :p
20140219 15:28:37< trademark> but if there are some non-trivial logic, put it somewhere else
20140219 15:28:45< trademark> and describe your protocol
20140219 15:30:00< trademark> by completing this document
20140219 15:30:01< trademark> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/blob/asio_umcd/doc/design/umcd/communication_protocol.tex
20140219 15:30:06< trademark> be sure to be on the good branch ;-)
20140219 15:31:17< Dugi> I'll try to remember that. Seems I'll have to revise LaTeX.
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20140219 15:31:43< trademark> Dugi, copy/paste should make it easy ;-)
20140219 15:33:38< Dugi> Yeah.
20140219 15:35:08< trademark> if you do something, make a pull-request and send me a mail, I'll give it a look
20140219 15:36:13< Dugi> Okay. I think I'll be back with some more questions.
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20140219 16:23:43< irker333> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth-old:master aeb9ec79cd4f / / (26 files in 5 dirs): New bigmap and journey markers for EI. http://git.io/eA8v4g
20140219 16:23:45< irker333> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth-old:master 53674ac5fdf4 / / (18 files in 7 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old http://git.io/5ME_Vg
20140219 16:24:20< aquileia> zookeeper: If you are commiting anyhow...
20140219 16:24:45< zookeeper> well i was surprised that went so painlessly
20140219 16:24:58< zookeeper> tortoisesvn already refused to push but luckily github managed to do it
20140219 16:25:02< zookeeper> s/svn/git
20140219 16:28:42< aquileia> all the files for the shadow mages are ready and were uploaded via github, so there should be no problems with them...
20140219 16:29:25< zookeeper> yeah but i have no time right now
20140219 16:29:37< aquileia> no problem
20140219 16:29:51< aquileia> I'll keep remining you
20140219 16:30:07< aquileia> s/remining/reminding
20140219 16:30:33< zookeeper> i only have time for wondering why tortoisegit seems to have no means of letting the user resolve conflicts when they arise. if there's a conflict it just goes stupid.
20140219 16:31:19< aquileia> If you changed your mind and would prefer a pull request, I'm back home and could fork the repo
20140219 16:32:04< aquileia> half a year of repeated internet problems is over
20140219 16:33:03< zookeeper> i don't know if i'd prefer it, i've never had anything to do with pull requests before
20140219 16:33:09< zookeeper> so it'll take some time for me to sort it out anyway
20140219 16:33:59< aquileia> I'm a github noob, but isn't it just clicking on a button?
20140219 16:39:13< aquileia> I will try it on my own repo...
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20140219 17:13:58< irker333> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 85cc8979a34a / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/maps/18_Northern_Alliance.map: SotBE S18: some changes to map http://git.io/2zVflQ
20140219 17:14:00< irker333> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master dd3e7679664e / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/18_Northern_Alliance.cfg: SotBE S18: make all guards loyal http://git.io/NAEdAA
20140219 17:14:02< irker333> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 5d36d410f6bd / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/18_Northern_Alliance.cfg: SotBE S18: make the human enemy AI leader passive http://git.io/ZrJyfg
20140219 17:14:04< irker333> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master d3b8a4ba602d / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/18_Northern_Alliance.cfg: SotBE S18: decrease human enemy AI aggression during nighttime http://git.io/tB420Q
20140219 17:14:06< irker333> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master d138d73d14ac / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/18_Northern_Alliance.cfg: SotBE S18: increase aggression of orc enemy AI http://git.io/3gJsvg
20140219 17:14:08< irker333> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 5ba55c50ca88 / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/18_Northern_Alliance.cfg: SotBE S18: make human ally AI protect its leader (Howgarth) http://git.io/z7EG8Q
20140219 17:14:10< irker333> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 768b54c320c0 / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/18_Northern_Alliance.cfg: SotBE S18: minor tweak to starting villages for side 6 http://git.io/o2n1zA
20140219 17:14:12< irker333> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 6dbecc86d804 / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/18_Northern_Alliance.cfg: SotBE S18: minor change to starting location of human reinforcements http://git.io/pbSrZg
20140219 17:14:14< irker333> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 093a0c4716d0 / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/18_Northern_Alliance.cfg: SotBE S18: balancing adjustments to gold and income http://git.io/DSXxoQ
20140219 17:14:25< Soliton> yeah, review and if everything is fine you can merge the pull request directly from the web page.
20140219 17:19:43< aquileia> zookeeper: I opened a pull request on wesnoth-resources. You have commit access, so feel free to test it if you want.
20140219 17:20:13< aquileia> Two clicks should suffice.
20140219 17:22:45< aquileia> This should be the  easiest way for you to decide whether you want the shadow mages via a PR
20140219 17:25:37< irker333> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 5afa681705e4 / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Update Xcode project http://git.io/210yAA
20140219 17:27:19< aquileia> zookeeper: direct link for convenience https://github.com/aquileia/wesnoth-resources/pull/1
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20140219 18:15:14< irker333> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master ee8c1afc31bc / RELEASE_NOTES changelog players_changelog: Update changelogs and release notes http://git.io/wGR_Fg
20140219 18:15:47< mattsc> zookeeper, all: as far as I am concerned, I am now done with SotBE.
20140219 18:29:28< zookeeper> cool beans
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20140219 19:51:46< lipkab> iceiceice: Hello.
20140219 19:52:02< iceiceice> lipkab: hi
20140219 19:52:38< iceiceice> i'm momentarily distracted, something strange happened on git... i created a changelog conflict it seems and i tried to solve it by merging, but I think i should have done something else
20140219 19:53:26< iceiceice> its just in my local repo but its going to take me a minute to sort it out
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20140219 19:53:38< lipkab> iceiceice: Given your recent PR, I'm wondering if you could try to resolve an age-old bug.
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20140219 19:54:47< iceiceice> sure, what's it about?
20140219 19:55:01< lipkab> MP eras can have nested events which are injected into the level data, but in  case of MP campaigns, they aren't carried over to subsequent levels.
20140219 19:55:09< lipkab> Same goes for MP mods.
20140219 19:55:56< lipkab> The desired behavior is that these events are present in each scenario of a campaign.
20140219 19:56:17< lipkab> So, that's it.
20140219 19:56:27< iceiceice> ahhhh
20140219 19:56:43< iceiceice> i had some idea that that was supposed to happen but i didn't realize it wasn't working
20140219 19:56:56< iceiceice> that actually explains some things i noticed another time though
20140219 19:57:14< iceiceice> i wonder why?
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20140219 19:57:52< lipkab> Why what?
20140219 20:00:34< iceiceice> i wonder why it is not adding those events
20140219 20:02:44< iceiceice> is it not adding the era at all in a campaign?
20140219 20:02:50< iceiceice> i guess that is possible?
20140219 20:04:43< iceiceice> is there a bugs.w.o report about this btw?
20140219 20:04:54< lipkab> Err... I don't think so.
20140219 20:04:57< iceiceice> do we know if the next scenario in an mp campaign is getting the era tag at all?
20140219 20:05:02< iceiceice> like in the save file?
20140219 20:05:15< iceiceice> i'm going to check and see if wesnoth.game_config.era finds the era in the second scenario
20140219 20:05:27< iceiceice> becuase it seems more likely that eras just aren't added in the 2nd scenario
20140219 20:05:32< iceiceice> than that the events are stripped out
20140219 20:08:01< lipkab> Events need some special handling.
20140219 20:08:02< lipkab> Era & mod events are added in multiplayer_connect, I believe, but that stuff is only run before the first scenario.
20140219 20:09:12< iceiceice> yeah and that makes sense i guess
20140219 20:09:15< lipkab> playmp_scenario is run before each, but it's not synced, so if a player doesn't have the files locally (in case of require_era=no eras), they will get an OOS.
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20140219 20:10:30< lipkab> So pretty much the best solution I see is storing these events in the carryover.
20140219 20:10:45< iceiceice> yeah that makes sense
20140219 20:10:54< iceiceice> so right now
20140219 20:11:04< iceiceice> i've added next_scenario_settings and next_scenario_append
20140219 20:11:12< iceiceice> the former is merged with the scenario
20140219 20:11:20< iceiceice> the latter is append_children'ed
20140219 20:11:29< iceiceice> so the former is intended for like, attributes, [side] tags,
20140219 20:11:31< iceiceice> the latter is for events
20140219 20:11:37< iceiceice> but i have set it up so it is cleared after every round
20140219 20:11:49< _8680_> iceiceice: What Git troubles are you having?
20140219 20:12:00< iceiceice> _8680_ i worked it out i think
20140219 20:12:05< _8680_> Oh, okay.
20140219 20:12:12< Ivanovic> lipkab: sorry, i was ill yesterday and not able to test it, it is on my list for tomorrow though
20140219 20:12:18< Ivanovic> (right now i am too tired)
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20140219 20:12:31< lipkab> Ivanovic: Okay.
20140219 20:12:54< iceiceice> lipkab: so maybe the right thing is to create an "era" config filed in carryover_info
20140219 20:12:56< iceiceice> and also a "mods"
20140219 20:13:01< iceiceice> and these are permanently carried over
20140219 20:13:50< iceiceice> or just a "persisent_WML" and add both of these
20140219 20:14:15< lipkab> iceiceice: Both solutions are fine, I think.
20140219 20:14:46< iceiceice> alright, i can code that up quite easily, i know how to do it right now
20140219 20:14:53< iceiceice> thanks for the suggestion, i didn't even realize that was a bug
20140219 20:15:01< iceiceice> *that that bug existed
20140219 20:15:21< iceiceice> i'm going to commit this other part i did then i think
20140219 20:15:39< lipkab> You're absolutely welcome :)
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20140219 20:18:44< irker333> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master f689cc841231 / src/ (game_end_exceptions.cpp game_end_exceptions.hpp): create next_scenario_settings member of end_level_data http://git.io/CYNXNg
20140219 20:18:46< irker333> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master 9d7255a29d39 / src/game_events/action_wml.cpp: next_scenario_settings is read from [endlevel] WML tag http://git.io/WjziFA
20140219 20:18:48< irker333> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master d07c784ae5f2 / src/playcampaign.cpp: carryover WML is applied at start of scenario by playcampaign.cpp http://git.io/UkGI9w
20140219 20:18:50< irker333> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master 655a08beed2d / src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): add and implement next_scenario_append http://git.io/njyw6A
20140219 20:18:52< irker333> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master 82e71a9fba8f / src/playcampaign.cpp: merge the "allow_new_game" field before test for mp ui http://git.io/5gRnEg
20140219 20:18:54< irker333> wesnoth: cbeck88 wesnoth-old:master acb49a55802b / src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Merge pull request #98 from cbeck88/carryover_WML http://git.io/X1DjyQ
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20140219 20:20:53< irker333> wesnoth: cbeck88 wesnoth-old:master 803edf935601 / changelog: Update changelog http://git.io/hu752w
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20140219 20:28:28< zookeeper> bumbadadabum, up for a map tweaking job in EI?
20140219 20:34:02< iceiceice> quick question: so now that I have commit privileges, I don't *need* to use pull requests, but I actually quite like the workflow of having my own fork on github which I push to, and i find the github gui diff to be helpful for sanity checking
20140219 20:34:20< iceiceice> i guess i can just push to upstream instead of origin, instead of using pull requests,
20140219 20:34:31< iceiceice> is it annoying to generate pull requests? i guess that spams people perhaps?
20140219 20:34:50< iceiceice> more so than just committing?
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20140219 20:36:31< bumbadadabum> zookeeper: Sure
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20140219 20:37:58< zookeeper> bumbadadabum, cool. see, i just updated the bigmap and journey markers for EI, and previously "evacuation" took place at the banks of the great river - which didn't make any sense.
20140219 20:37:59< zookeeper> so, i changed it to happen immediately outside the orcish prison, meaning that the bridge takes you from the island back to the mainland.
20140219 20:38:21< zookeeper> but, the map is summery and doesn't match the map of "lake vrug"
20140219 20:38:53< zookeeper> so, if you'd like, the map would need to be changed to a wintery one
20140219 20:42:20< zookeeper> should be a pretty straightforward thing, except that you'd need to be careful with snow because we wouldn't want the map to actually become harder as a consequence
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20140219 20:51:57< bumbadadabum> yeah
20140219 20:52:01< bumbadadabum> I'll look at it later
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20140219 20:55:19< zookeeper> bumbadadabum, cool, thanks. but if you find that you don't feel like it then just say
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20140219 21:58:57< irker333> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth-old:master d9ba6ac4c8ef / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/scenarios/05_Northern_Outpost.cfg: Make sure Dacyn stops casting even on :n-triggered victory. http://git.io/xA_WbQ
20140219 21:58:59< irker333> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth-old:master a62609027813 / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/scenarios/ (07a_The_Crossing.cfg 11_Captured.cfg): Removed ability to recruit Young Ogres. http://git.io/lZiCFA
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20140219 22:58:03< irker333> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth-old:master c1374ba032a0 / / (12 files in 4 dirs): Clarified 'Evacuation' now taking place at Lake Vrug. http://git.io/QTEbhA
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20140219 23:40:05< aquileia> Which file ending would I need to run the wesnoth-optipng script on Windows?
20140219 23:42:06< EliDupree> Does wesnoth.scroll_to_tile interact with the RNG at all? I have a script with inconsistent OOS issues, and it fairly often works right up to a wesnoth.scroll_to_tile call and then desyncs when I do the same thing again right afterwards.
20140219 23:50:15< EliDupree> I don't want to believe it, but, well.... http://pastebin.com/7s8BHL80
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20140219 23:55:23< EliDupree> It doesn't always OOS right after that line, but that's one of the common results. Sometimes it OOSes after one of the later wesnoth.scroll_to_tile lines. It never OOSes in the middle of one of blocks of EoHS.random lines.
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20140219 23:58:05< shadowm> wesbot: seen fabi 
20140219 23:58:06< wesbot> shadowm: Queried user last spoke 1d 1h ago.  fabi is currently here and on the channels #wesnoth, #wesnoth-de and #wesnoth-umc-dev.
20140219 23:58:14< EliDupree> This is on 1.11.9+dev from about a week ago
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