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20140222 00:07:11< irker886> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth-old:master ed43da24f3fd / RELEASE_NOTES: Updated RELEASE_NOTES. http://git.io/uF64gQ
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20140222 00:35:10< irker886> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth-old:master a80fb5618c2e / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/scenarios/11_Captured.cfg: Tweaked the exit events. http://git.io/5DWIoA
20140222 00:35:33 * zookeeper will try to wake up before the release
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20140222 00:38:53< shadowm> Is that the last thing in EI that needed to be rewritten?
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20140222 00:47:39< iceiceice> hi, new PR for the idle controller thing, if you want to help test that is what i will resume after dinner, I think its almost ready to commit
20140222 00:47:40< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/pull/106
20140222 00:48:00< irker886> wesnoth: aquileia wesnoth-old:master 0e124d56afce / data/core/units/elves/Ranger.cfg: Elvish Ranger converted to new animation syntax http://git.io/Q-vo6g
20140222 00:48:02< irker886> wesnoth: aquileia wesnoth-old:master d46b7e29a021 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 3 UtBS units use [base_unit], fix Central Body http://git.io/IlOeSA
20140222 00:48:04< irker886> wesnoth: aquileia wesnoth-old:master 4bf8c098951b / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/ (6 files in 2 dirs): deleting #wmllint: usage magic comments http://git.io/M9fsiA
20140222 00:48:06< irker886> wesnoth: aquileia wesnoth-old:master aeac3fad89cb / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/ (4 files in 2 dirs): small UtBS unit WML clean up (4 units) http://git.io/wQcebQ
20140222 00:48:08< irker886> wesnoth: aquileia wesnoth-old:master 7954281a59fd / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/monsters/Small_Mudcrawler.cfg: UtBS small mudcrawler update http://git.io/2ucZzg
20140222 00:48:10< irker886> wesnoth: aquileia wesnoth-old:master 15f225cb1c47 / / (39 files in 6 dirs): AnimationWML update for UtBS http://git.io/VeML6A
20140222 00:48:12< irker886> wesnoth: aquileia wesnoth-old:master a169517e20c8 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/elves/ (Corrupted_Elf.cfg Desert_Archer.cfg): fix two UtBS animations http://git.io/pwGTKg
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20140222 00:48:21< shadowm> iceiceice: By the way, you don't need to submit PRs for every single thing having push access.
20140222 00:48:32< iceiceice> i know but i think i like it that way
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20140222 00:49:00< iceiceice> i've sort of gotten used to that workflow, and i like having my own clone so i can use the github interface to check diffs easily 
20140222 00:49:05< shadowm> aquileia: It's done.
20140222 00:49:11< iceiceice> once i'm pushing things to my clone i might as well just use PR's it seems
20140222 00:49:22< iceiceice> unless it is spammy for you or something
20140222 00:49:37< aquileia> shadowm: Thanks!
20140222 00:51:57< aquileia> Only one PR to go... happygrue? Opened your present from sleepwalker?
20140222 00:52:20< happygrue> can't do it, because I haven't rebuilt
20140222 00:52:25< happygrue> busy, but can someone else please?
20140222 00:52:38< happygrue> I wanted to look at stuff in game before pushing it
20140222 00:52:50< happygrue> shadowm: thanks for the update
20140222 00:52:54< aquileia> I just asked because shadowm said in between he fixed the project files
20140222 00:52:57< happygrue> but I won't get to it tomorrow
20140222 00:53:04< happygrue> yeah, busy with stuff, won't be able to build just now
20140222 00:53:08< happygrue> maybe I can do it late tonight
20140222 00:54:07< iceiceice> aquileia: i'm looking at the PR 104 (that's what you are talking about, right?) and it says it can't merge automatically, theres some merge conflict
20140222 00:54:44< aquileia> I guess it's the changelog
20140222 00:54:45< iceiceice> i think its just in the changelog?
20140222 00:55:02< iceiceice> yeah so maybe you can, rebase the whole topic thread onto master and fix the changelog?
20140222 00:56:09< iceiceice> after updating master?
20140222 00:56:44< iceiceice> i'm actually going to go get food this time... i'm sure someone will help you if it doesn't work, and i will later otherwise
20140222 00:57:04< iceiceice> if its really a pain you can just delete the changelog commit and make a new one i guess
20140222 00:57:11< iceiceice> bbl
20140222 00:57:28< shadowm> It's most likely the changelog. Resolving merge conflicts manually isn't too hard if you know what you are doing, though.
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20140222 00:57:51< aquileia> I'll do it, I'm just occupied writing a commit message for my own repo
20140222 00:59:32< irker886> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 5e7b4ece1d46 / data/tools/wesnoth/campaignserver_client.py src/addon/validation.cpp: campaignd: Serve 1.12 clients on port 15007 http://git.io/PfTbmw
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20140222 01:14:21< shadowm> happygrue: In case you still need it later: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21371130/wesnoth-win32/wesnoth-build-1.11.9-298-g5e7b4ec.tar.bz2
20140222 01:14:50< shadowm> Or anyone else running on Windows.
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20140222 01:19:39< happygrue> okay, thanks shadowm
20140222 01:19:48< happygrue> on my list of things to do later tonight
20140222 01:23:18< aquileia> I'm stuck... I tried to update my repo, and now Github wants me to make a commit of all changes to master since the moment I forked... that doesn't seem advisable as it'd mess up the PR as soon as it is involved
20140222 01:24:18< shadowm> Hm, that's why PRs are best done from new branches.
20140222 01:24:55< aquileia> It is a new branch, but it was based on an outdated master and now I feel the wrath of git
20140222 01:25:40< shadowm> So why not create a new branch from the current master instead?
20140222 01:26:00< shadowm> Or you are trying to update the branch instead?
20140222 01:26:09< aquileia> I'd first need a real master, and this is what I'm trying
20140222 01:26:54< shadowm> The remote branch 'origin/master' (as opposed to the local 'master') should be a suitable starting point for a new branch.
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20140222 01:27:17< aquileia> Why can't there be a "reset this fork to be synced with it's master" button on the web interface?
20140222 01:27:48< shadowm> That's probably because it requires a force-push, which isn't a thing that people should do without understanding the consequences.
20140222 01:28:30< aquileia> People like me ;p
20140222 01:29:35< shadowm> As for how to reset a local branch to match the remote branch it's tracking, uh, I don't know how that is done.
20140222 01:30:24< shadowm> _8680_: Help
20140222 01:31:18< shadowm> (Yes, one could delete master and recreate it tracking origin/master, but that strikes me as a bad idea somehow.)
20140222 01:31:37< aquileia> Especially with 2,5 GB
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20140222 01:33:02< aquileia> I just need a clean slate because the changelog indentation fix was done twice
20140222 01:33:25< aquileia> But a total reset seems the easiest way
20140222 01:34:32< iceiceice> aquileia: 
20140222 01:34:35< iceiceice> i just looked at log
20140222 01:34:36< shadowm> Hm, there might be a non-complicated super-destructive way to do it, actually.
20140222 01:34:55< iceiceice> so basically you *wish* that all the commits you had made were done one the *updated* master, right?
20140222 01:35:03< iceiceice> so the asnwer is, go to your topic branch
20140222 01:35:59< iceiceice> type git rebase master
20140222 01:35:59< aquileia> relative to
20140222 01:35:59< iceiceice> yeah
20140222 01:35:59< iceiceice> rebase will go back, figure out all your commits you made as diffs,
20140222 01:35:59< iceiceice> and reapply them to the updated master branch
20140222 01:35:59< _8680_> shadowm: Hm?
20140222 01:35:59< iceiceice> then, force push from your local to your origin 
20140222 01:35:59< shadowm> Oh, I though he wanted to throw those away.
20140222 01:35:59< iceiceice> to get the toic updated
20140222 01:35:59< shadowm> thought*
20140222 01:35:59< _8680_> What’s the issue?
20140222 01:35:59< iceiceice> maybe i misunderstood
20140222 01:36:23< iceiceice> wait so what happened?
20140222 01:36:29< iceiceice> did you pull upstream master into your topic branch?
20140222 01:36:46< aquileia> Into my local master, not the branch
20140222 01:36:53< iceiceice> ok but that's good i think
20140222 01:37:28< _8680_> aquileia: What are you trying to do?
20140222 01:37:28< aquileia> but before doing anything GitHub wants me to commit the diff due to this pull
20140222 01:37:46< iceiceice> so theres a merge issue or something?
20140222 01:38:11< iceiceice> also you really mean github there and not git?
20140222 01:38:16< aquileia> anything (whether discarding my changes or not) that gives me an up-to-date master would be ok
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20140222 01:39:22< _8680_> aquileia: What is preventing you from using `git pull <upstream repository> master`?
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20140222 01:40:53< aquileia> I tried, but the github interface considers all those pulled diffs as my own changes...
20140222 01:41:20< iceiceice> ok i think i didnt understand what your set up is
20140222 01:41:40< _8680_> aquileia: Are you on your master branch, or on a topic branch?
20140222 01:41:47< iceiceice> are you having like, a local repo on your machine with command line, and a personal repo on github?
20140222 01:41:56< iceiceice> or do you only have the personal repo/
20140222 01:42:50< iceiceice> because when you are pulling from upstream, usually you would pull by git command line to your local, then push that to origin (your personal repo on github)
20140222 01:43:10< aquileia> Sorry if it is confusing. I have my fork aquileia/wesnoth-old which I cloned locally, then create a topic branch khalifate-graphics-update
20140222 01:43:17< iceiceice> y i see
20140222 01:43:23< _8680_> aquileia: What branch are you currently on?
20140222 01:43:32< aquileia> local master
20140222 01:44:11< _8680_> Okay, and if you run `git pull <upstream repository> master`, does that command give an error message?
20140222 01:45:46< aquileia> replacing <upstream repository> by git@github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth-old.git ?
20140222 01:46:22< _8680_> You should have defined that as a remote repository, but yes.
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20140222 01:46:58< _8680_> (`git remote add upstream git@github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth-old.git`, and then you can refer to it as “upstream”.)
20140222 01:47:16< shadowm> If I first cloned from wesnoth/wesnoth-old.git, 'origin' would have been automatically registered as a remote repository with that name.
20140222 01:47:36< shadowm> s/name/URI/
20140222 01:47:40< aquileia> It says I can't pull with unmerged files
20140222 01:47:53< _8680_> shadowm: “I have my fork aquileia/wesnoth-old which I cloned […]”
20140222 01:48:04< shadowm> Right.
20140222 01:48:17< _8680_> aquileia: Have you made changes to your master branch?
20140222 01:48:42< aquileia> The changes are in fact my last try to pull upstream
20140222 01:48:57< iceiceice> oh maybe you can do git reset --hard head?
20140222 01:48:58< aquileia> That's why I'm totally confused...
20140222 01:49:30< _8680_> Are you sure there’s no work that you could lose on your master branch?
20140222 01:49:49< _8680_> If so, you can just overwrite it with upstream’s master branch.
20140222 01:50:33< aquileia> How? My master branch was merged via PR, so there's nothing to loose
20140222 01:51:21< iceiceice> so if you use git reset --hard HEAD, it will make every file in your repo look like it did at the HEAD commit
20140222 01:51:30< iceiceice> after that you should be able to merge
20140222 01:51:34< iceiceice> assuming that
20140222 01:51:35< _8680_> $ git fetch upstream
20140222 01:51:42< iceiceice> git is complaining about work in the head that is uncommitted
20140222 01:51:49< _8680_> $ git checkout -B master upstream/master
20140222 01:51:55< _8680_> …is how I’d do that.
20140222 01:52:13< Espreon> noy: Do the Khalifate units with the "long sword" attack use what would qualify as "longswords"? Also, I think we should change "naphtha attack" to something else... it reminds me of Asheviere's "cold". "naphtha blast" maybe?
20140222 01:53:30< aquileia> error: you need to resolve your current index first
20140222 01:53:53< aquileia> But before wesnoth-dev becomes a git helpdesk...
20140222 01:54:31< noy> Espreon: its tough to say
20140222 01:54:32< aquileia> I think it's less work to take the 6 files, copy them over and write an new changelog entry
20140222 01:55:01< shadowm> aquileia: Did you use git reset --hard to reset the index?
20140222 01:55:06< _8680_> aquileia: Okay then, push the big red button, by which I mean add the --force (-f) switch: $ git checkout -Bf master upstream/master
20140222 01:55:07< aquileia> No
20140222 01:55:10< iceiceice> so another thing to keep in mind is that, no matter how screwy things get, if a command goes awry, you can go to "git reflog", find the point just before you typed it, and reset --hard to that commit, and it should be like the bad thing never happened
20140222 01:55:22< _8680_> Or follow shadowm’s advice, both should work.
20140222 01:55:22< shadowm> aquileia: Because after that, what _8680_ is suggesting should work.
20140222 01:56:33< _8680_> -f (--force) is less typing, but should be used carefully.
20140222 01:58:07< aquileia> And what will happen with my forked repo?
20140222 01:58:07< _8680_> In this case, --force (-f) means “discard the unsaved changes”, so it’s fine, given that that’s what you want.
20140222 01:58:16< _8680_> aquileia: Nothing, until you push to it.
20140222 01:58:30< aquileia> so I'll force push, right?
20140222 01:58:57< _8680_> I don’t know, I don’t know what you want to do with your fork.
20140222 01:59:16< _8680_> All I know is that you want to update your local master branch.
20140222 01:59:25< Espreon> noy: I see. Note that I'm asking because it seems the remerging of the Khalifate introduced a separate "long sword" string, which exists along a "longsword" string.
20140222 01:59:52< noy> Its probably a shorter sword
20140222 02:00:02< noy> not like a claymore or something like that
20140222 02:00:12< noy> but longer than a gladius?
20140222 02:00:21< aquileia> Ahmm... it tried to push to wesnoth's master.
20140222 02:00:31< aquileia> Glad I have no access
20140222 02:00:36< noy> Naptha won't be changed
20140222 02:00:53< noy> its been discussed at length, and that's the name we agreed on
20140222 02:01:13< shadowm> See, this is why I try to make sure people have some experience with git before giving them access. ;)
20140222 02:01:30< Espreon> noy: Very well, then.
20140222 02:03:25< _8680_> noy: “attack” vs. “blast” was discussed at length, or the spelling of “naphtha”?
20140222 02:04:08< _8680_> aquileia: So… is your master branch up-to-date now?
20140222 02:04:51< aquileia> locally yes, on github no
20140222 02:04:56< shadowm> $ git push --force origin      (origin is your fork on GitHUb, upstream is wesnoth/wesnoth-old)
20140222 02:05:27< shadowm> (Since you used git checkout to recreate master from upstream/master, it defaults to upstream instead of origin for stuff.)
20140222 02:06:53< _8680_> I advise renaming “origin” to “fork”, for clarity (`git remote rename origin fork`).
20140222 02:06:55< aquileia> I guess I'm doingsomething horribly wrong... http://pastebin.com/EU83CPQ1
20140222 02:07:59< _8680_> $ git push --force origin master
20140222 02:09:17< _8680_> In general, $ git push <remote repository> <branch or tag>
20140222 02:10:38< iceiceice> Espreon, noy: Maybe "naphtha strike"?
20140222 02:11:02< _8680_> You can also push from one ‘ref’ to a different one: $ git push <remote> <from>:<to>
20140222 02:11:11< aquileia> Thank god (and thank you three), I'm up to date at last
20140222 02:11:44< iceiceice> :)
20140222 02:12:13< _8680_> You can also delete remote refs (branches, tags) with (dangerous, naturally): $ git push <remote> :<target>
20140222 02:13:04< iceiceice> hmm did not actually know that
20140222 02:13:28< irker886> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 8fabcb99169c / / (4 files in 3 dirs): LoW: include LOW_BIGMAP in the journey map macros http://git.io/c3Kq5Q
20140222 02:13:51< aquileia> And now I'm no longer up to date ;)
20140222 02:13:56< _8680_> (I.e., “push (empty) to <target>”.)
20140222 02:14:19< _8680_> aquileia: Updating should be easy enough.
20140222 02:14:29< aquileia> I'll create a new branch with a new PR if noone has objections
20140222 02:14:59< aquileia> _8680_: I don't really need to, as long as the changelog is ok
20140222 02:15:44< iceiceice> aquileia -- its probably easier to just rebase your topic onto master now that master is up to date
20140222 02:16:09< iceiceice> if you force push to your origin then, then your change log will be automatically updated
20140222 02:16:19< iceiceice> *not change log, pull request
20140222 02:16:55< aquileia> I think there was a merge conflict the last time I tried to get it it
20140222 02:17:06< iceiceice> yeah so this would be a way to resolve that i guess
20140222 02:17:37< iceiceice> i guess when you rebase it will say theres a conflict on change log, and then you open up the changelog and see whats going on and fix it
20140222 02:18:41< shadowm> aquileia: Objections? It depends on what the PR would be about.
20140222 02:19:17< aquileia> 6 changed images plus 2 lines changelog - the latter created all this chaos
20140222 02:19:32< shadowm> At this point you should probably add yourself to Miscellaneous Contributors in data/core/about.cfg, though, since your commits in the last PR, while dealing only with WML, are far from trivial.
20140222 02:20:16< aquileia> Really? I'm such a noob with git I create more work than I do it seems...
20140222 02:20:24< iceiceice> quick question: does anyone know if it is possible to send "all white chat messages", like those obtained from [chat] tags, or from server messages, to the other clients in a networked game?
20140222 02:20:45< iceiceice> like is there a network::send_server_message command or something? i can't seem to find anything lke this
20140222 02:21:01< shadowm> I wouldn't have any objections on image changes that have been approved by someone with an olive or blue name or urgently needed by someone with a red name.
20140222 02:21:11< shadowm> *light blue
20140222 02:22:05< shadowm> iceiceice: You want to know how the current MP game chat system works?
20140222 02:22:25< iceiceice> i think i understand this,
20140222 02:22:39< iceiceice> basicaly what i want is a C++ command that issues something that looks like a server message to the other clients
20140222 02:22:53< shadowm> But is not an actual server message, right?
20140222 02:23:00< iceiceice> no its a "host" message i guess
20140222 02:23:10< aquileia> I rather asked about objections to the procedure of repllacing 104 by a new 107
20140222 02:23:36< shadowm> iceiceice: You could look into the implementation of the wesnoth.message Lua function (which is used to implement [chat] in WML).
20140222 02:23:43< iceiceice> hmm i see
20140222 02:23:45< iceiceice> thx
20140222 02:24:14< shadowm> I believe whatever's providing the underlying framework for that is also used for things like deprecation messages, [wml_message], console commands and so on.
20140222 02:26:31< shadowm> aquileia: According to GitHub, PR 104 comes from the khalifate-graphics-update branch in your fork. Is there any particular reason you'd prefer to open a new PR instead of force-pushing the changes to your branch?
20140222 02:27:37< shadowm> Hm, wow, we sure have had a lot of PRs so far. I didn't expect we would be over 40 by this point.
20140222 02:27:48< aquileia> Ah, I could push from my new khalifate-base to the old khalifate-graphics-update... then it'll register as the old one
20140222 02:30:22< iceiceice> shadowm: thanks thats what i wanted
20140222 02:34:40< aquileia> iceiceice: You're under miscellaneous as well... shadowm, is this ok?
20140222 02:35:03< shadowm> Yes.
20140222 02:35:25< aquileia> Ok
20140222 02:36:02< irker886> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master eb1e105d7373 / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/chapter1/01_The_Uprooting.cfg: LoW S1: "did not deserved" -> "did not deserve" http://git.io/cWiZAg
20140222 02:37:09< iceiceice> ok i think i'm going to push out this idle controller thing, it seems to be working correctly and i will test it more during beta
20140222 02:39:20< aquileia> I seem to have messed up the encoing of about.cfg - the first line is part of the diff
20140222 02:39:53< shadowm> 20140221 23:39:44 error config: Skipping over a utf8 BOM
20140222 02:39:58< shadowm> Not just that. :p
20140222 02:40:23< aquileia> But it's local right now...
20140222 02:40:33< shadowm> You need to use an editor you can tell to not use a BOM with UTF-8.
20140222 02:40:56< aquileia> I do
20140222 02:40:57< shadowm> That error I pasted is from loading UtBS.
20140222 02:41:31< aquileia> Oh... I tested the  files but never got this...
20140222 02:41:51< shadowm> Probably because it goes away once the WML cache is populated.
20140222 02:41:59< shadowm> I had to use --nocache on the second run to get it again.
20140222 02:43:52< irker886> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master a07c61c4cf79 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/elves/Desert_Star.cfg: UtBS: Revert accidental addition of a UTF-8 BOM http://git.io/ZkRC5Q
20140222 02:44:36< aquileia> No idea why it was inserted - notepad++ recognized it everywhere else
20140222 02:45:12< aquileia> except the about.cfg, that is, where I changed it manually now
20140222 02:45:50< shadowm> I doubt any of the present would have a hint for me to do https://gna.org/bugs/?19797 within the next uh... seven hours?
20140222 02:46:25< AI0867> um
20140222 02:46:30< AI0867> what does that even do?
20140222 02:48:12< shadowm> It used to define whether a game would have a map preview in Load Game or not.
20140222 02:48:27< shadowm> Allegedly.
20140222 02:49:06< shadowm> Nowadays we need hacks like this: http://pastebin.com/QAXLPryf
20140222 02:49:13< aquileia> One last git  question... would git push -f aquileia/wesnoth-old khalifate-base:khalifate-graphics-update work to transfer from base to update?
20140222 02:49:40< shadowm> I don't think so. _8680_ ?
20140222 02:50:01< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master 04a4ec308eaa / src/ (team.cpp team.hpp): define idle controller http://git.io/XsHcJQ
20140222 02:50:03< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master dd80b16bd6c4 / src/ (playsingle_controller.cpp playsingle_controller.hpp): recognize idle state when such a side's turn occurs http://git.io/Jko1fw
20140222 02:50:03< shadowm> Also, the first argument should be eother 'origin' or the full URI in any case.
20140222 02:50:05< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master dee271a7fa67 / src/playturn.cpp: add option to set disconnected side to idle http://git.io/Lq--xg
20140222 02:50:07< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master 15b9385572a3 / src/ (menu_events.cpp playsingle_controller.cpp): add :idle command http://git.io/FALxuQ
20140222 02:50:09< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master 78d9b0f3170b / src/menu_events.cpp: add :controller command to query the controller status of a side http://git.io/4m7dHg
20140222 02:50:11< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master c8c2f453eaf0 / src/ (gui/dialogs/mp_change_control.cpp menu_events.cpp): :control now handles an idle side by reverting it to human before trying to tran http://git.io/viDmtw
20140222 02:50:13< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master c0984d616e1a / src/menu_events.cpp: improve performance of :droid when sides are idle http://git.io/i265ZA
20140222 02:50:15< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master 3cbf1087ed23 / changelog: update changelog http://git.io/M9UpOQ
20140222 02:50:17< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master d6c259468661 / src/ (4 files): create separate code paths for sp idle notification and mp idle notification http://git.io/Ww5r4A
20140222 02:50:19< irker886> wesnoth: cbeck88 wesnoth-old:master 37b0b8dd6952 / / (10 files in 3 dirs): Merge pull request #106 from cbeck88/idle_controller http://git.io/mhCC6w
20140222 02:50:23< shadowm> *either
20140222 02:51:01< shadowm> iceiceice: So you didn't need to change wesnothd in the end?
20140222 02:51:05< iceiceice> nope
20140222 02:52:23< iceiceice> it could be that theres some unforeseen bug whose remedy will ultimately require this i suppose, but i think that right now the idle state works, all the host control commands work, saving and reloading works, and the server never knows about "idle"
20140222 02:52:51< shadowm> Might it need to be documented in the game help, though?
20140222 02:53:01< iceiceice> hmm
20140222 02:53:09< iceiceice> yes i should document the new console commands
20140222 02:53:20< shadowm> Im particular, under Commands -> Multiplayer Commands.
20140222 02:53:25< iceiceice> i'm not actually sure how to do that
20140222 02:53:39< shadowm> Also, RELEASE_NOTES if this is supposed to be visible in the announcement for the crazy MP people.
20140222 02:53:50< iceiceice> hehe ok
20140222 02:54:04< shadowm> data/core/help.cfg for the game help, esp. line 562 onwards.
20140222 02:54:19< iceiceice> wait so whats the difference between players chandelog and release notes?
20140222 02:54:43< shadowm> The players changelog is linked from the announcement, RELEASE_NOTES contains the stuff I paste directly into the fancy announcement.
20140222 02:56:40< shadowm> In other words, R_N is for very important things which everyone should read.
20140222 03:00:38< aquileia> shadowm: I could send you the file resulting from git format-patch, make a new PR, ... or figure out how to overwrite one branch with another
20140222 03:01:07< iceiceice> hmm i found that :give_control was not previously documented
20140222 03:01:11< iceiceice> was this intentional?
20140222 03:01:25< _8680_> aquileia: `git push -f aquileia/wesnoth-old khalifate-base:khalifate-graphics-update` would overwrite the ‘khalifate-graphics-update’ branch in the ‘aquileia/wesnoth-old’ remote repository with your local ‘khalifate-base’ branch.
20140222 03:01:30< shadowm> iceiceice: Probably not. I don't think many people remember that that section exists.
20140222 03:01:48< iceiceice> yeah i think its a good feature, many people woudl probably use it if they knew it existed
20140222 03:01:54< _8680_> aquileia: Do you have a ‘aquileia/wesnoth-old’ remote defined? I believe that should be ‘origin’.
20140222 03:02:02< aquileia> Ok
20140222 03:02:57< aquileia> If I'm in one of the branches right now... will it interfere?
20140222 03:03:47< _8680_> aquileia: `git push <remote> <branch>:<branch>` should not be affected by what branch you’re on.
20140222 03:04:12< shadowm> Now that I think of it, auto-generating the Commands section from the engine's data structures (which are used to generate the :help command output) would be a cool EasyCoding task.
20140222 03:05:01< AI0867> iceiceice: if you've just fixed a bug (or feature request), you should mark it as fixed
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20140222 03:05:24< AI0867> oh, the changelog says it's only partial
20140222 03:05:26< iceiceice> i think theres still work to do there, its just somewhat improved
20140222 03:06:28< iceiceice> the thing to do now i guess is, should add a field like "bool blindfolded" to playmp_controller, which causes the game_display not to render any hexes
20140222 03:06:33< aquileia> now the PR is updated
20140222 03:06:42< iceiceice> and have an "enter blindfolded" checkbox in the lobby
20140222 03:07:02< iceiceice> but i dont really understand game_display that well so its probably not wise to attempt this atm
20140222 03:07:08< iceiceice> not sure though, ihave been looking at it
20140222 03:07:13< AI0867> irker's reports indicate that you could do some more configuration on github
20140222 03:07:24< AI0867> 03:50 < irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck...
20140222 03:07:24< AI0867> and
20140222 03:07:26< AI0867> 03:50 < irker886> wesnoth: cbeck88...
20140222 03:07:31< iceiceice> oh
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20140222 03:08:34< aquileia> iceiceice: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/pull/104
20140222 03:08:42< vultraz> dammit where's fabi 
20140222 03:09:11< aquileia> 2 hours only to get the changelog to merge...
20140222 03:09:31< aquileia> [01:54] <iceiceice> aquileia: i'm looking at the PR 104
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20140222 03:09:45< shadowm> vultraz: Before cursing you might want to take note that in his timezone it's 4 am.
20140222 03:10:02< vultraz> I pinged him hours ago
20140222 03:10:36< _8680_> How many hours?
20140222 03:10:46< happygrue> aquileia: got everything working, it looks good, but you have to update the players changelog with stuff players would probably notice too (eg, new art)
20140222 03:11:11< _8680_> Not everyone stays up until dawn.
20140222 03:11:16< shadowm> I hereby officially announce my decision to not push more features of my own to master before 1.11.10, effective immediately.
20140222 03:11:24< happygrue> doh!
20140222 03:11:28< happygrue> can I get this last one in?
20140222 03:11:36< happygrue> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/pull/104/files
20140222 03:11:38< shadowm> I said my own.
20140222 03:11:44< happygrue> oh, carry on then ;)
20140222 03:12:10< happygrue> and thanks for the build
20140222 03:12:19< shadowm> You people can keep doing your thing until 1.11.10, I am just stating my choice to refrain from doing any such thing myself since... I don't have anything easy left to do, I think.
20140222 03:12:36< iceiceice> quick question: how come the observer eye is on the left now rather than the right?
20140222 03:12:53< shadowm> If I promised any of you a feature, you have less than 6 hours to remind me.
20140222 03:12:55< aquileia> happygrue: During the last 2 hours, three devs kindly helped fixing that changelog...
20140222 03:13:33< shadowm> iceiceice: You mean https://gna.org/bugs/?21542 ?
20140222 03:13:50< happygrue> hehe
20140222 03:14:27< iceiceice> i see
20140222 03:14:50< happygrue> so can I merge while Travis is building?  I get a little note indicating I should be careful about it
20140222 03:14:56< happygrue> _8680_: ^
20140222 03:15:00< AI0867> you can
20140222 03:15:09< AI0867> it just says "travis hasn't confirmed that this builds yet"
20140222 03:15:17< happygrue> I assumed but... I like to ask
20140222 03:15:19< shadowm> It only matters for C++ changes.
20140222 03:15:32< _8680_> I’m not an authority on Travis.
20140222 03:15:40< iceiceice> oh, if anyone is looking for an "easy coding task" that should take about 1 hour maybe,
20140222 03:15:53< shadowm> fabi, iceiceice: I saw that as part of the theme overhaul, the rectangle upon which the observers icon's geometry relied ended up being defined wrong.
20140222 03:16:03< iceiceice> so some mp players will complain for the following reason
20140222 03:16:16< shadowm> But theme WML is ugly and I don't want to mses with it. In any case, it's been this way since 1.11.9 or 1.11.8.
20140222 03:16:32< iceiceice> many scenarios begin with a [message] tag from the creator to advertise himself and show a nice portrait
20140222 03:16:39< iceiceice> however, the [message] tag blocks the turn bell
20140222 03:16:48< _8680_> Oh, was <https://imagebin.ca/v/17lFr9L3Plfw> ever fixed?
20140222 03:17:03< iceiceice> so they miss their turn / make everyone wait
20140222 03:17:08< shadowm> It does?
20140222 03:17:12< iceiceice> yes
20140222 03:17:17< irker886> wesnoth: aquileia wesnoth-old:master d9cdef2b2c8c / / (8 files in 3 dirs): khalifate graphics update http://git.io/ccKycQ
20140222 03:17:19< irker886> wesnoth: Wintermute wesnoth-old:master 4e7c3c3c485e / / (8 files in 3 dirs): Merge pull request #104 from aquileia/khalifate-graphics-update http://git.io/hy7-pg
20140222 03:17:21< iceiceice> in fact it blocks all wml events from being evaluated
20140222 03:17:29< vultraz> _8680_: at least 12
20140222 03:17:32< iceiceice> as far as i can tell
20140222 03:17:33< vultraz> probably more
20140222 03:17:38< _8680_> vultraz: What?
20140222 03:17:49< vultraz> [14:10:30]	_8680_	How many hours?
20140222 03:17:51< _8680_> At least twelve wh— oh, hours ago.
20140222 03:18:13< iceiceice> i think the correct solution is, not to make message behave differently, but instead, in the lobby when the host clicks "start game", the clients should all play a sound
20140222 03:18:24< _8680_> I thought you were referring to <https://imagebin.ca/v/17lFr9L3Plfw>.
20140222 03:18:28< iceiceice> so its almost the same as "party_full_bell", my first PR :p
20140222 03:18:32< aquileia> happygrue, iceiceice, shadowm, _8680_ : Thanks again, I can finally get some sleep!
20140222 03:18:38< iceiceice> sleep well :)
20140222 03:18:41< _8680_> aquileia: Good night, then.
20140222 03:18:43< happygrue> thank you !
20140222 03:18:45< happygrue> o/
20140222 03:18:49< shadowm> aquileia: np
20140222 03:19:16< vultraz> _8680_: we never decided on the exact implementation of the save schedule dialog. It might require a new string.
20140222 03:19:19< shadowm> I'm going to continue playing LoW.
20140222 03:19:26< vultraz> Since the string freeze is coming up...
20140222 03:19:31< aquileia> Bye
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20140222 03:19:41< shadowm> Less than 6-10 hours remaining for that btw.
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20140222 03:20:57< vultraz> My idea was to have a File -> Save Schedule option to to save the active schedule 
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20140222 03:21:49< _8680_> vultraz: If you’re asking me for suggestions, the only thing I can think of at the moment is preemptively committing all strings you think you might need, but I don’t know how well that might be received.
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20140222 03:24:06< irker886> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master f888359e1415 / changelog: Changelog formatting http://git.io/KCPbog
20140222 03:24:23< shadowm> #ifdef __UNUSED__  \n   _"this string isn't actually used but wmlxgettext will integrate it anyway" \n  #endif
20140222 03:25:19< fabi> hi
20140222 03:25:22< _8680_> So that’s allowed? It felt like cheating to me.
20140222 03:25:38< _8680_> fabi, hello.
20140222 03:26:35< vultraz> \o/
20140222 03:27:04< shadowm> eh
20140222 03:27:19< fabi> ?
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20140222 03:29:19< irker886> wesnoth: happygrue wesnoth-old:master 499ef61db40e / players_changelog: Mirrored changelog entry for pull request #104 in players_changelog http://git.io/r5GpDQ
20140222 03:29:21< irker886> wesnoth: happygrue wesnoth-old:master 248dfc3c5239 / changelog: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old http://git.io/ubFIYQ
20140222 03:29:28< fabi> shadowm: Don't expect LoW to be playable.
20140222 03:29:53< fabi> shadowm: At least scenario 7 is broken.
20140222 03:29:56< vultraz> fabi: can we decide on the format for saving schedules so we can get any necessary strings committed
20140222 03:30:50< fabi> the format?
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20140222 03:31:31< fabi> shadowm: I would love to playtest LoW MP soon, maybe you want to join me?
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20140222 03:32:53< fabi> vultraz: The format is [editor_schedule] [time_of_day] ....
20140222 03:34:26< shadowm> fabi: Eh, wait what, not playable?
20140222 03:34:45< fabi> I am not sure.
20140222 03:34:49< fabi> I did not test it.
20140222 03:35:05< shadowm> I remember the last time we had an arguably unplayable campaign in mainline, everyone grabbed torches and pitchforks and removed it from mainline.
20140222 03:35:08< fabi> There have been a lot of changes to LoW because of the gsoc project.
20140222 03:35:23< shadowm> And then it was brought back to mainline like a couple of hours later. (I wasn't around at the time.)
20140222 03:35:38< fabi> I wouldn't mind to rip LoW out of mainline.
20140222 03:35:51< fabi> It can live on the add-on server for a cycle.
20140222 03:36:01< shadowm> But I like it so far in spite of the unconventional techniques in use. :(
20140222 03:36:03< vultraz> fabi: I mean the interface within the editor. I thought there should be a File -> Save Schedule option that would save the current selected schedule. Or should it happen from within the custom tod dialog? In either case, there needs to be a warning if a user edits a core schedule and tries to saveit
20140222 03:36:47< fabi> shadowm: LoW uses unconventional techniques? I thought it is a quite classic Wesnoth campaign.
20140222 03:36:56< shadowm> I'm about to start playing scenario 7, in fact.
20140222 03:37:16< shadowm> fabi: The recruitment/recall differences between Kalenz/Landar and Cleodil.
20140222 03:37:23< fabi> ah yes
20140222 03:37:28< fabi> That is more important in MP.
20140222 03:37:50< fabi> There the players need to work hard together. Only Cleodil can heal.
20140222 03:37:58< fabi> While the other players can provide tanks. 
20140222 03:39:01< fabi> I do not know if forcing the players to do such extreme teamwork is working well in practise.
20140222 03:39:35< shadowm> Anyway, LoW S7 awaits. I intend to pause it for a bit afterwards and play EI* next, since it's had its share of groundbreaking changes as of late.
20140222 03:39:59< shadowm> (* Until I get bored of it as usual, anyway.)
20140222 03:40:06< fabi> shadowm: You should pause LoW S7 and wait for my next update to it.
20140222 03:41:08< shadowm> Hm, okay, if you say so. But do note that if you need to get strings in advance you might want to use the __UNUSED__ trick I mentioned not too many minutes ago.
20140222 03:42:51< shadowm> EI it is, then. Let's see how far I can make it this time before I get tired of the protagonists' ill-conceived plans.
20140222 03:42:54< fabi> I still have the preferences screen for adjusting the orb (and minimap) colors. Maybe heavily wanted by all color blind ones. But I can
20140222 03:43:05< fabi> 't manage to get it in before Sunday.
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20140222 03:44:32< fabi> It would need only a handfull of simple strings to be translated.
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20140222 03:55:37< irker886> wesnoth: Espreon wesnoth-old:master 283041cd1c46 / data/languages/ang_GB@latin.cfg: Eliminated unneeded bit from ang@latin's label. http://git.io/eiH7CQ
20140222 03:58:24< irker886> wesnoth: Espreon wesnoth-old:1.10 539de53cb3b0 / data/languages/ang_GB@latin.cfg: Eliminated unneeded bit from ang@latin's label. http://git.io/nGOrpQ
20140222 04:07:32< mattsc> fabi: when was LoW S7 broken?
20140222 04:10:10< vultraz> fabi: ...
20140222 04:10:28< mattsc> According to the time stamp on my saves, I played it on July 29.
20140222 04:11:45< iceiceice> hmm does anyone know what this means?
20140222 04:11:46< iceiceice>  error cache: cache /home/chris/.cache/wesnoth/cache-v1.11.9+dev (d4f18ed-Clean)-7d52bb409db193ccea563cdefa94f8422a0b3570.gz is corrupt. Error code: 4
20140222 04:12:29< vultraz> dunno. but just delete the cache
20140222 04:12:34< iceiceice> yeah w/e
20140222 04:16:17< iceiceice> hmm where'd all the 1.11 add-ons go?
20140222 04:17:35< iceiceice> i guess there can be only one :p
20140222 04:18:15< vultraz> *iceiceice is now known as Voldemort*
20140222 04:18:50< iceiceice> lol i mean, its not me its shadowm
20140222 04:18:56< Coffee_irc> iceiceice: you an safely delete all the files in the cache
20140222 04:19:05< _8680_> vultraz: Voldemort?
20140222 04:19:08< _8680_> <http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThereCanBeOnlyOne>
20140222 04:19:26 * happygrue decapitates vultraz and takes his power
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20140222 04:20:33< iceiceice> haha
20140222 04:20:44< mattsc> happygrue: the explosions going along with that used to be much more impressive
20140222 04:20:48< shadowm> Huh?
20140222 04:21:18< iceiceice> shadowm: it looks like the only 1.11 add-ons are iftu and ats right now, i could swear there were others...
20140222 04:21:19< happygrue> mattsc: it's dark
20140222 04:21:20< shadowm> iceiceice: If you are looking for them, connect to add-ons.wesnoth.org:15006 instead of the default (port 15007).
20140222 04:21:27< happygrue> you are likely to be decapitated by a grue
20140222 04:21:33< happygrue> and not see any explosions
20140222 04:21:35< shadowm> You are now connecting to the 1.12 add-ons server, not the 1.11 add-ons server.
20140222 04:21:53< vult_decapitated> Ah, thanks for reminding me
20140222 04:22:00< mattsc> grue sounds like something I eat for breakfast
20140222 04:22:01< iceiceice> ohh i see
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20140222 04:27:12< _8680_> mattsc: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_%28monster%29>
20140222 04:28:00< iceiceice> hmm...
20140222 04:28:07< iceiceice> can anyone suggest a "game has begun" sound
20140222 04:28:32< iceiceice> i guess i will keep trying random ones
20140222 04:29:26< fabi> mattsc: Well, not exactly broken. It just does not work like expected anymore.
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20140222 04:30:13< happygrue> iceiceice: something like the turn gong but a different pitch maybe?
20140222 04:30:37< iceiceice> i feel like i would ideally like the sound of a gate opening
20140222 04:30:49< iceiceice> but not having that, i'm going with "join.wav" i guess?
20140222 04:30:55< shadowm>     message= _ "No! You have defeated me, and can re-enter Wesnoth!"
20140222 04:31:07< shadowm> This line...
20140222 04:31:11< shadowm> Where do I even begin.
20140222 04:32:27< shadowm>     message= _ "I will aid you. Although, I too, think that yours is the foolish choice. You should stay, and fight."
20140222 04:32:35< shadowm> For one the elves are right.
20140222 04:34:22< iceiceice> hmm all these sounds are kind of annoying
20140222 04:34:25< iceiceice> but i guess for testing it is fine
20140222 04:34:53< iceiceice> i'll have to find an alternate gong somewhere i guess
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20140222 04:36:26< irker886> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 3e801a88fade / data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/scenarios/02_The_Escape_Tunnel.cfg: EI S2: Refresh the game map after altering terrains http://git.io/yaG7wA
20140222 04:36:48< Coffee_irc> iceiceice: you could always try something like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P526n6wfP4
20140222 04:37:46< iceiceice> hahaha
20140222 04:37:49< iceiceice> that is awesome
20140222 04:38:08< iceiceice> lol and the youtube comments do not fail me either
20140222 04:45:06< iceiceice> Coffee_irc: we can just commit this as "drake_theme.ogg", right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw&t=12s 
20140222 04:45:57< mattsc> _8680_: there's no reason why I can't have monsters for breakfast  ;)
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20140222 04:51:39< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master 38207ab54a44 / data/core/help.cfg: add :idle, :controller, :give_control help http://git.io/Z3EogA
20140222 04:51:41< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master 141bf2e1995b / RELEASE_NOTES: update RELEASE_NOTES http://git.io/Gs7tIg
20140222 04:51:43< irker886> wesnoth: cbeck88 wesnoth-old:master 9e4fd80718e3 / RELEASE_NOTES data/core/help.cfg: Merge pull request #107 from cbeck88/idle_controller_help http://git.io/2vMUQQ
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20140222 04:52:23< shadowm> Has "gui" been used in lowercase form in the help before?
20140222 04:53:12< shadowm> It's probably best to assume the reader has no idea what "GUI" means anyway and omit its mention altogether.
20140222 04:57:31< iceiceice> you know, i thought everyone knew what a gui was
20140222 04:57:37< iceiceice> haha
20140222 04:58:19< iceiceice> but then again i am routinely surprised when half of the technical help questions on the BfW forums have nothing to do with BfW and are really "how do I use my OS / how do I use my computer?"
20140222 05:10:47< AI0867> elias: it would have been helpful if you'd told me you had commented out part of my code
20140222 05:12:02< AI0867> the issue here is that the path the preprocessor spits out is space-delimited
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20140222 05:40:08< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master 21e167f6eb07 / src/ (game_config.cpp game_config.hpp multiplayer_wait.cpp): add a sound played when the host clicks "begin" in an mp game http://git.io/GJHgkA
20140222 05:40:10< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master 61a6b4b7d866 / changelog: update changelog http://git.io/VLonFg
20140222 05:40:12< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master 41fff387e8fc / changelog src/game_config.cpp src/game_config.hpp src/multiplayer_wait.cpp: Merge pull request #108 from cbeck88/game_start_bell http://git.io/EVL4DQ
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20140222 07:20:13< iceiceice> hi, i think i have managed to create a "blindfold replay" feature, it turned out to be a lot easier than i thought it would be
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20140222 07:20:33< iceiceice> at least in the simplest cases, it is enough to put an update lock on the video display for the relevant observer, which is removed whent hey take control of a side
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20140222 07:20:52< iceiceice> there's some minor visual glitches but i think it is pretty good,
20140222 07:21:09< iceiceice> and i'm pretty sure if there are any bugs in my implementation it doesn't bleed over in the case where the relevant checkbox is off
20140222 07:21:24< iceiceice> however i haven't rigorously tested the feature, i would prefer to get sleep and do that in beta
20140222 07:21:33< iceiceice> is it all right if i commit this?
20140222 07:21:38< iceiceice> *alright
20140222 07:21:39< iceiceice> ?
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20140222 07:27:11-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.11.10 (start of string+feature freeze) planned for February 22nd | 223 bugs, 351 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Alternate logs: http://wesnoth.debian.net | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20140222 07:44:02< irker886> wesnoth: JaMiT wesnoth-old:master 8f73eb02f052 / src/game_events/ (handlers.cpp handlers.hpp menu_item.cpp pump.cpp): Change game_events::manager::iteration to not store a pointer. http://git.io/WfswUA
20140222 07:44:04< irker886> wesnoth: JaMiT wesnoth-old:master 2a825ffdc34a / src/game_events/ (handlers.cpp handlers.hpp pump.cpp): Allow an event handler to be destroyed just before it handles an event. http://git.io/k3G90w
20140222 07:44:06< irker886> wesnoth: JaMiT wesnoth-old:master f3c18b629251 / src/utils/smart_list.hpp: Implementation of a "smart" linked list. http://git.io/bsZ1uQ
20140222 07:44:08< irker886> wesnoth: JaMiT wesnoth-old:master 3f584e2435ea / src/game_events/ (handlers.cpp handlers.hpp): Implementation of a list of event handlers. http://git.io/X1KL1Q
20140222 07:44:10< irker886> wesnoth: JaMiT wesnoth-old:master 03770e4be38b / src/game_events/handlers.cpp: Index events by name. http://git.io/eyTUyg
20140222 07:44:12< irker886> wesnoth: JaMiT wesnoth-old:master edbd4fcb72a5 / changelog src/game_events/handlers.cpp src/game_events/handlers.hpp: Optimizing game event firing. http://git.io/Hl_AXA
20140222 07:44:14< irker886> wesnoth: JaMiT wesnoth-old:master 33cb3e491f3f / src/game_events/ (handlers.cpp handlers.hpp): Speed the lookup of a game event handler by ID. http://git.io/wPDcEg
20140222 07:44:16< irker886> wesnoth: JaMiT wesnoth-old:master 939e0805ba64 / src/game_events/ (handlers.cpp handlers.hpp): Merge event_handler::set_index() into the constructor. http://git.io/rV8V7Q
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20140222 07:56:47< iceiceice> jamit: i think travis is not compiling these latest commits? https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/jobs/19383782
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20140222 07:58:43< jamit> So the travis bot is now iceiceice?
20140222 07:58:55< iceiceice> :p
20140222 07:59:09< iceiceice> i would like to see if travis compiles my thing i guess so i can go to sleep...
20140222 07:59:26< iceiceice> but i guess thats silly anyways
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20140222 08:03:49< irker886> wesnoth: JaMiT wesnoth-old:master 077bbdac919e / src/utils/smart_list.hpp: Actually use the predicate supplied to smart_list::sort. http://git.io/P_hh0Q
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20140222 08:12:00< zookeeper> shadowm, the last one i've had any concrete plans to rewrite, yes. of course there remains plenty of scenarios which are completely awful.
20140222 08:15:34< jamit> I didn't think travis-ci had retired.
20140222 08:19:18< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master cb9d69aff4a3 / src/ (4 files): create blindfold_replay preference with checkbox in lobby http://git.io/0QqhZA
20140222 08:19:20< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master c77580d70bd0 / src/ (5 files): blindfold_replay is passed to mp scenario, and implemeted with a screen update l http://git.io/i5i4Gg
20140222 08:19:22< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master 31d48040d206 / src/playmp_controller.cpp: move blindfold removal to first human turn (when obs takes control) http://git.io/gJtsBg
20140222 08:19:24< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master d35d4589c64b / RELEASE_NOTES changelog: update changelog and RELEASE_NOTES http://git.io/KPdB2A
20140222 08:19:26< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master 1c4fcb08dd58 / / (11 files in 2 dirs): Merge pull request #109 from cbeck88/blindfold http://git.io/gZG81g
20140222 08:20:25< zookeeper> shadowm, what, there is unbelievable cheesy and dumb dialogue in EI? surely you must be mistaken.
20140222 08:20:39< zookeeper> "Go, go far from here! But me and my kind will chase you, and kill you!"
20140222 08:20:42< zookeeper> "You have defeated me! I can terrorize the villagers no more..."
20140222 08:20:49< zookeeper> ...
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20140222 08:29:21< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/builds/19384360
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20140222 08:31:51< Ivanovic> AI0867, elias, fabi, loonycyborg, shadowm, Soliton, vultraz, zookeeper, everyone else who cares: i plan to work on the release in about 2h
20140222 08:32:05< Ivanovic> so that is how much time you still have left for the last minute changes breaking everything
20140222 08:32:07< Ivanovic> ;)
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20140222 08:35:36< mordante> servus
20140222 08:35:38< iceiceice> gnight to you all, i am out 
20140222 08:35:44< iceiceice> or good morning as the case may be
20140222 08:35:45< Ivanovic> guten morgen mordante
20140222 08:35:48< mordante> bye iceiceice 
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20140222 08:35:53< iceiceice> bye
20140222 08:35:54< mordante> servus Ivanovic 
20140222 08:36:25< mordante> Ivanovic, I'm somewhat happy the Pandora issue is still there, else I would be puzzled what actually solved it ;-)
20140222 08:37:07< jamit> travis said: src/game_events/handlers.cpp:158:29: error: default initialization of an object of const type 'const game_events::handler_list' requires a user-provided default constructor
20140222 08:37:07< jamit> But why? The default default constructor should be just fine, shouldn't it?
20140222 08:37:37< mordante> shadowm, regarding your patch I've no real objection, but please add some comment in the #if why it's there
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20140222 08:37:58< jamit> There are no constructors defined, so I thought the compiler should be supplying the default constructor.
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20140222 08:39:26< irker886> wesnoth: Emilien Rotival wesnoth-old:master 2abf696ef413 / data/core/images/units/monsters/ (11 files): Update the giant mudcrawler attack frames http://git.io/lQ2cNA
20140222 08:39:56< LordBob_> One giant steaming pile of mud served, ready to attack again !
20140222 08:40:11< mordante> Ivanovic, I've no breaking changes planned anymore :-P
20140222 08:40:36< vultraz> \o/
20140222 08:40:55< vultraz> LordBob_: now onto the progress bars?
20140222 08:41:56< LordBob_> Yup. We won't be seeing them in today's release, but now that the rest of the UI is done, they're really becoming an eyesore
20140222 08:42:55< Ivanovic> mordante: the interesting part about the pandora issue is that it only happens in the pandora theme
20140222 08:43:22< Ivanovic> mordante: so it might very well be due to the minimap size changes and the init not done properly unless it is in the default size
20140222 08:44:08< Ivanovic> as a shortterm hack: would an ifdefed init for the minimap with the size of the pandora theme work?
20140222 08:44:37< Ivanovic> that is: would it hurt the rest of the game if we used that larger value for every game and rely on "showing less does not hurt"?
20140222 08:47:00< mordante> well I'd like to try to debug it before diving into work arounds
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20140222 08:47:14< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth-old#1795 (master - 1c4fcb0 : Chris Beck): The build is still failing.
20140222 08:47:14< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/builds/19384655
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20140222 08:47:20< mordante> what is the Pandora's resolution?
20140222 08:47:34< Ivanovic> 800x480
20140222 08:47:53< mordante> also starting in windowed mode 1024x768 with the Pandora theme is interesting
20140222 08:54:47< irker886> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth-old:master 011696388b7c / RELEASE_NOTES: fixup Release notes http://git.io/Qtk3IQ
20140222 08:54:51< LordBob_>  Is there anyone tech-savvy out there with access to the new resources repo ? I've been meaning to drop the new favicon in there, but my usual commit-for-dummies approach isn't available. :(
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20140222 08:58:39< shadowm> LordBob_: Did you clone it already?
20140222 08:59:21< LordBob_> Not yet
20140222 08:59:39< shadowm> Well, you need to do that first.
20140222 08:59:47< LordBob_> Since I'm only trying to drop a single file in there, I was hoping to do it from the website maybe 
20140222 08:59:52< LordBob_> Ah. Dang
20140222 09:00:01< shadowm> Oh, the website.
20140222 09:00:03< mordante> Ivanovic, can't reproduce it here, can you reproduce it on your PC?
20140222 09:00:28< shadowm> I thought you could only upload text files with the website?
20140222 09:02:18< shadowm> Whohah.
20140222 09:02:36< shadowm> Who added all the stuff at the end of the changelog block for 1.11.10 and why does it look like that.
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20140222 09:04:55< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth-old#1796 (master - 2abf696 : Emilien Rotival): The build is still failing.
20140222 09:04:55< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/builds/19385010
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20140222 09:08:14< LordBob_> Hum...Ok, somehow cloning of the repo won't start because it requires GitHub Mac...which won't run on my OS. I don't have time for this kind of setup today.
20140222 09:08:20< LordBob_> Shadowm : ^
20140222 09:08:38< LordBob_> So instead I'll do it the old-fashioned way and drop the image on the forum.
20140222 09:09:58< Ivanovic> mordante: no, i can't reproduce it on my desktop
20140222 09:10:15< shadowm> Gah I hate Windows.
20140222 09:10:53< mordante> :-( that makes reproducing hard... /me puts his faith in valgrind
20140222 09:10:53< shadowm> Every time I commit something from there I have to keep fighting it trying to switch to an US keyboard layout.
20140222 09:12:22< shadowm> LordBob_: There's no hurry in that regard, in any case, since the resources repo is completely separate from the release process.
20140222 09:12:49< shadowm> Now, what do you mean GitHub Mac won't run on your OS? I thought you used OS X? (Although I thought OS X shipped with the command-line Git client too?)
20140222 09:13:13< irker886> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master cdab0f2e842a / changelog players_changelog src/text.cpp: Force grayscale font AA with Cairo on Windows (bug #21648) http://git.io/l2BywA
20140222 09:13:16< LordBob_> I do, but apparently Git's latest client runs on 10.7 only
20140222 09:13:16< irker886> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 33d3a6e66e06 / RELEASE_NOTES: Merge branch 'master' of github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth-old http://git.io/dc_OoA
20140222 09:15:02< LordBob_> Instead I am using Gitbox, but that one only handles a single repo
20140222 09:15:47< LordBob_> (its free version, at least)
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20140222 09:16:35< irker886> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 35c2cea6138f / changelog players_changelog: Bring the changelog back to sanity, sync with players_changelog http://git.io/qC7LlA
20140222 09:17:20 * shadowm hits iceiceice with the squeaky rubber mallet.
20140222 09:19:26< irker886> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master c4b2ea89c428 / players_changelog: Fix a capitalization issue in the players_changelog too http://git.io/WgbhhA
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20140222 09:20:06< shadowm> fabi: What happened to the plan to bring back the race and alignment labels in the sidebar?
20140222 09:20:33< shadowm> Also, weren't the previous orb colors going to be brought back or I am misremembering things? ... Which reminds me...
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20140222 09:22:32< shadowm> Of an art thing that's probably too subjective at this point so I guess I'll bring it up at a later time.
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20140222 09:39:09< irker886> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth-old:master dd5be6a23c0b / po/ (11 files in 11 dirs): updated Scottish Gaelic translation http://git.io/FsjP1w
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20140222 09:43:26< shadowm> iceiceice: The party full bell was added in 1.11.8.
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20140222 09:46:31< shadowm> jamit: You broke my build with clang, and also travis'. :(
20140222 09:49:26< mordante> Ivanovic, trunk has compilation issues, which I consider a blocker for a release
20140222 09:49:41< Ivanovic> mordante: it builds nicely over here...
20140222 09:50:23< shadowm> Only fails with clang, which I use, and so does FreeBSD 10 etc.
20140222 09:51:40< shadowm> The OS X binary is also built with clang IIRC.
20140222 09:52:00< mordante> Ivanovic, what shadowm said^
20140222 09:52:10< Ivanovic> ugh, sucks
20140222 09:52:12< Ivanovic> jamit: fix it!
20140222 09:52:14< Ivanovic> ;)
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20140222 10:12:36< shadowm> Ivanovic: Where in the wiki are people supposed to report typos, again?
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20140222 10:22:06< mordante> Ivanovic, valgrind also is happy with the code, which makes debugging it quite hard
20140222 10:22:31< Ivanovic> shadowm: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/index.php?title=SpellingMistakes
20140222 10:23:01< Ivanovic> mordante: you mean the minimap code?
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20140222 10:23:31< vultraz> shouldn't someone commit those spelling fixes
20140222 10:23:43< Ivanovic> vultraz: yeah, would be good...
20140222 10:24:01< irker886> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master a02f1dc49efa / src/multiplayer_lobby.cpp: mp: Simplify blindfold option label tooltip, eliminate contractions http://git.io/NBPiKw
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20140222 10:26:22< irker886> wesnoth: Chusslove Illich (Часлав Илић) wesnoth-old:master 51ffcbf65c33 / data/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Fixed too large size of pt map overlays. http://git.io/o_LVtg
20140222 10:27:38< irker886> wesnoth: Chusslove Illich (Часлав Илић) wesnoth-old:master 5501a281c5e3 / l10n-track: Updated l10n-track. http://git.io/DlZcjg
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20140222 10:28:12< vultraz> I'll deal with it
20140222 10:29:11< irker886> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master b4915f094a5e / data/core/help.cfg: Minor help entry wording change http://git.io/4DjP-Q
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20140222 10:35:45< irker886> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 769320e2085d / data/campaigns/Delfadors_Memoirs/scenarios/12_Terror_at_the_Ford_of_Parthyn.cfg: Defeat all enemies -> Defeat all enemy leaders http://git.io/yJuF1w
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20140222 10:38:12< shadowm> vultraz: "Defeat enemy leaders" in LoW S6 should probably be "Defeat all enemy leaders", while you are at it.
20140222 10:38:32< vultraz> noted
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20140222 10:41:43< irker886> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 807538c8bd4a / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/01_End_of_Peace.cfg: more then -> more than http://git.io/axI7bA
20140222 10:42:17< irker886> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 1810559e91e2 / changelog: Add changelog entry for aliasof/mvt_alias/def_alias wmllint conversions http://git.io/RBXzKQ
20140222 10:44:19< irker886> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 280d646d173c / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/chapter4/13_News_from_the_Front.cfg: Fixed misplaced comma http://git.io/6YPKgA
20140222 10:46:30< irker886> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 69a188ef8545 / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/chapter2/06_Acquaintance_in_Need.cfg: Defeat enemy leaders -> Defeat all enemy leaders http://git.io/O4ygGQ
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20140222 11:05:04< irker886> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 35cfa7b47d47 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/10_Speaking_with_the_Fishes.cfg: Tweaked a line, replaced a mention of Eloh with Yechnagoth, and fixed a typo http://git.io/7JMrnA
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20140222 11:06:46< shadowm> vultraz: You introduced a new typo in the process: 'darknedd'
20140222 11:09:15 * vultraz facepalms
20140222 11:13:05< shadowm> Hm, this broken clang build situation is obstructing me. I guess I'll build with gcc for now...
20140222 11:13:45< Ivanovic> mordante, shadowm: are you looking into fixing the build?
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20140222 11:14:04< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth-old#1806 (master - 769320e : Charles Dang): The build is still failing.
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20140222 11:14:23< shadowm> Not me, I need to look at something else first.
20140222 11:15:01< irker886> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 64930edbe4c4 / data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/10_Speaking_with_the_Fishes.cfg: Fixed a typo I made http://git.io/MW82iA
20140222 11:19:17< loonycyborg> Is clang crazy? Why can't it autogenerate the constructor in this case?
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20140222 11:23:51< vultraz> ok I feel stupid, where's the help section on mountains generated (and undead)
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20140222 11:33:23< loonycyborg> Adding a default constructor fixes the clang compile error
20140222 11:33:35< loonycyborg> But I still have no idea why does clang require it
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20140222 11:45:36< irker886> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master bbdb45c237d9 / src/serialization/parser.cpp: parser: Print location and preprocessor substitution trail when skipping BOMs http://git.io/8UaTcw
20140222 11:50:33< mordante> Ivanovic, I'll look in a few minutes, finishing some other stuff at the moment
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20140222 11:54:42< shadowm> Travis sure knows how to grab people's attention.
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20140222 11:56:43< mordante> a good reason not to break things ;-)
20140222 11:57:43< loonycyborg> I already have a fix in local repo
20140222 11:57:49< loonycyborg> need only to push it
20140222 11:58:23< loonycyborg> But only want to wait for a build to finish
20140222 11:59:57< mordante> loonycyborg, ok then I leave it to you
20140222 12:01:06< AI0867> "The reason is that if the class doesn't have a user-defined constructor, then it can be POD, and the POD class is not initialized by default. So if you declare a const object of POD which is uninitialized, what use of it? So I think the Standard enforces this rule so that the object can actually be useful."
20140222 12:01:22< AI0867> "if the object is of const-qualified type, the underlying class type shall have a user-declared default constructor."
20140222 12:02:40< loonycyborg> Why does gcc allow it then?
20140222 12:03:33< AI0867> gcc allows lots of stuff
20140222 12:03:46< irker886> wesnoth: loonycyborg wesnoth-old:master e1a275682c2e / src/game_events/handlers.hpp: Add a user-defined default constructor to handler_list to fix build with clang http://git.io/LTrnPg
20140222 12:04:47< loonycyborg> I actually tried handler_list() = default too just to see if it will fail with clang and it does
20140222 12:05:52< loonycyborg> But anyway, this type clearly isn't a POD so default constructor should be called and initialize sub-objects, no?
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20140222 12:06:56< loonycyborg> Why force this rule on non-POD classes too?
20140222 12:06:59< loonycyborg> It's silly
20140222 12:07:11< loonycyborg> just make you write an empty constructor
20140222 12:07:42< mordante> and who says the empty constructor is the right initialisation?
20140222 12:09:04< loonycyborg> Its lack suggests that the code's author didn't want anything other than default constructing sub-objects
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20140222 12:11:58< irker886> wesnoth: Mark de Wever wesnoth-old:master 698eeb0e63bc / src/actions/attack.hpp: Initialize all members. http://git.io/6kgurQ
20140222 12:13:28< mordante> jup that is often the case, but I guess the standard has other ideas or clang has a bug
20140222 12:14:18< mordante> Ivanovic, I see you fixed the NDEBUG flags, nice :-)
20140222 12:15:33< AI0867> yeah, now just to fix it upstream ;)
20140222 12:15:58< Ivanovic> mordante: yeah, required some hacking but now it is fixed
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20140222 12:33:46< Ivanovic> HUI!
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20140222 12:40:19< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth-old#1815 (master - 698eeb0 : Mark de Wever): The build was fixed.
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20140222 12:41:07< Ivanovic> _8680_, AI0867, Coffee_irc, Crab_, elias, fabi, happygrue, jamit, loonycyborg, mordante, shadowm, Soliton, trademark_, vultraz, zookeeper, everyone else who cares: ready for 1.11.10 aka 1.12.0 beta1?
20140222 12:41:23< loonycyborg> yes
20140222 12:41:48< mordante> Ivanovic, yes :-)
20140222 12:42:34< shadowm> Yes!
20140222 12:43:05< happygrue> yes
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20140222 12:43:46< uruk-hai> hi all!
20140222 12:43:56< mordante> hi uruk-hai 
20140222 12:44:57< uruk-hai> is there someone who is working with xcode on wesnoth?
20140222 12:45:20< uruk-hai> i could appreciate a helping hand with the building :)
20140222 12:45:59< shadowm> mattsc uses xcode.
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20140222 12:50:40< uruk-hai> thanks :)
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20140222 13:13:54< Ivanovic> okay, i'll work on the release now
20140222 13:14:08< Ivanovic> you should have had enough time for commits since my announcement mail...
20140222 13:14:19-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: releasing 1.11.10 (start of string+feature freeze) | 223 bugs, 351 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Alternate logs: http://wesnoth.debian.net | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20140222 13:16:56< aquileia> shadowm: don't kill me... there are 2 more BOM's
20140222 13:17:58< shadowm> Uh, where?
20140222 13:18:31 * happygrue calls the BOM squad
20140222 13:18:39< aquileia> Liberty/units/
20140222 13:18:40< shadowm> Oh, Liberty, I see.
20140222 13:20:16< shadowm> I'll fix it after the tag.
20140222 13:20:39< irker886> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth-old:master f3f33217e817 / / (853 files in 28 dirs): pot-update, regenerated doc files (prepare for 1.11.10) http://git.io/llsndA
20140222 13:20:41< irker886> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth-old:master 07978ccbe57b / changelog players_changelog src/wesconfig.h: bump version to 1.11.10 http://git.io/4pusyQ
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20140222 13:22:22< shadowm> Ivanovic: Or maybe right now?
20140222 13:22:36< Ivanovic> shadowm: what exactly would this change mean?
20140222 13:22:43< Ivanovic> sorry that i do not understand BOM
20140222 13:22:49< shadowm> Removing two extraneous non-printable characters from two WML files.
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20140222 13:23:12< Ivanovic> do those result in any warning or even error?
20140222 13:23:39< shadowm> -<U+FEFF>#textdomain wesnoth-l
20140222 13:23:39< shadowm> +#textdomain wesnoth-l
20140222 13:23:48< shadowm> Yes.
20140222 13:23:52< Ivanovic> ugh, okay, those have the potential to hurt
20140222 13:23:55< Ivanovic> do so now please
20140222 13:27:11-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: releasing 1.11.10 (start of string+feature freeze) | 225 bugs, 350 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Alternate logs: http://wesnoth.debian.net | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20140222 13:28:40< irker886> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 95fc2306a676 / data/campaigns/Liberty/units/ (Shadow_Lord.cfg Shadow_Mage.cfg): Liberty: Revert accidental addition of UTF-8 BOMs http://git.io/nIrQlg
20140222 13:28:44< shadowm> > Receiving objects: 100% (878/878), 38.75 MiB | 235.00 KiB/s, done.
20140222 13:29:00< shadowm> Love how I had to download about 40 MiB over a slow connection to push such a tiny change...
20140222 13:30:05< aquileia> Sorry - at that time, I wasn't aware
20140222 13:30:42< shadowm> Ivanovic: Done.
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20140222 13:45:12< irker886> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth-old:master ce437137886e / / (53 files in 28 dirs): another pot-update, just to be sure http://git.io/_stUfg
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20140222 13:52:33< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth-old#1816 (master - 07978cc : Nils Kneuper): The build has errored.
20140222 13:52:33< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/builds/19392741
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20140222 13:59:29< Ivanovic> ooookay, not good
20140222 13:59:49< Ivanovic> someone changed something at the audio part and i now get continuous buffer underrun errors from alsa
20140222 13:59:54< Ivanovic> ALSA lib /var/tmp/portage/media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.27.2/work/alsa-lib-1.0.27.2/src/pcm/pcm.c:7843:(snd_pcm_recover) underrun occurred
20140222 14:00:18< shadowm> Uh, I got those all the time here since years.
20140222 14:00:41< Ivanovic> uhm, okay, this is very strange, next time starting it they are gone...
20140222 14:00:50< Ivanovic> shadowm: but not about 10 per second flooding stdout, right?
20140222 14:04:36< Ivanovic> since it now seems to work i will just go on...
20140222 14:07:22< shadowm> Only when running under valgrind.
20140222 14:07:29< irker886> wesnoth: ivanovic wesnoth-old: ce437137886e tagged as 1.11.10
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20140222 14:31:00< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: tagging done, uploading the tarball to sf.net now
20140222 14:31:26-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: released 1.11.10, announcing "soon" | string+feature freeze active on master | 225 bugs, 350 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Alternate logs: http://wesnoth.debian.net | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20140222 14:42:59< AI0867> Ivanovic: looks like you need to redo the topicchange due to a netsplit
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20140222 18:56:52< EliDupree> Hi, I'm having some trouble understanding the attack code behavior. When is kill XP rewarded? I have a situation where I heal a "killed" unit in an attacker_hits event
20140222 18:57:30< EliDupree> It seems that if I heal it and change its underlying_id, the killer earns kill XP, but if I heal it and change its side, both sides earn fighting XP
20140222 18:57:38< EliDupree> But the combat is invalidated either way
20140222 18:58:05< EliDupree> My reading of the code seems to suggest that if combat is invalidated in an attacker_hits event, kill XP should never be awarded
20140222 18:58:15< EliDupree> because it doesn't reach unit_killed()
20140222 19:08:42< EliDupree> My bad - , the unit's underlying ID wasn't actually changing in the one case.
20140222 19:09:10< EliDupree> So it wasn't being invalidated until the unit's HP are checked after the last breath event.
20140222 19:10:03< EliDupree> Which seems strange. Why the delay? Seems to me that if you want to heal a unit to stop its death, you'd normally do that in a last breath event
20140222 19:10:36< EliDupree> While if a unit is healed in an attacker_hits event, it would make sense to allow the combat to continue
20140222 19:11:51< vultraz> How does it handle drain?
20140222 19:12:33< EliDupree> Drain applies after the event, based on the damage done before the event, if the combat wasn't invalidated by the event (by changing location, underlying_id, or side)
20140222 19:12:56< EliDupree> If it only invalidated the kill by healing, drain happens
20140222 19:13:18< EliDupree> I have an FR about that too https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?21618
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20140222 19:46:40< jamit> I'm not sure if this connection is stable, but I'll give this another shot. Repeating what I said a few hours ago (but did not make it into the log):
20140222 19:46:40< jamit> shadowm, Ivanovic: Sorry about the build, but I could not understand what was wrong. I asked for help, but eventually I had to get some sleep:
20140222 19:46:40< jamit> 20140222 08:37:07< jamit> travis said: src/game_events/handlers.cpp:158:29: error: default initialization of an object of const type 'const game_events::handler_list' requires a user-provided default constructor 
20140222 19:46:40< jamit> 20140222 08:37:07< jamit> But why? The default default constructor should be just fine, shouldn't it? 
20140222 19:46:40< jamit> 20140222 08:37:58< jamit> There are no constructors defined, so I thought the compiler should be supplying the default constructor. 
20140222 19:46:41< jamit> AI0867: Where did you get the answer from? ("The reason is that if the class doesn't have a user-defined constructor...")
20140222 19:47:49< jamit> OK, that made the log. So at least lobby heard me this time. :)
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20140222 19:53:41< mordante> jamit, not sure whether you also saw it, but loonycyborg committed a fig
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20140222 19:56:28< mordante> I'm off night
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20140222 19:59:02< jamit> mordante: Thanks for the reminder
20140222 19:59:20< jamit> loonycyborg: Thanks for the fix.
20140222 20:02:12< jamit> (But I'm still interested in finding out more about why it was broken. It was fine according to the C++ specs I recall.)
20140222 20:09:23< jamit> Oh, another thing I was wondering: is the default initialization problem I triggered something that is controlled by a compile flag? (Depending on what I find out about the problem, I might propose turning that flag off.)
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20140222 20:13:07< iceiceice> shadowm: sorry about whatever you didn't like in the changelog -- is there some reason why we aren't supposed to make * lists to depth 4 or something?
20140222 20:14:31< AI0867> jamit: google
20140222 20:14:43< AI0867> and stackoverflow
20140222 20:25:52< iceiceice> unrelated question about clang vs gcc: why do the travis clang builds go so much faster than the gcc ones? if i started using clang myself would i see similar gains?
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20140222 20:40:54< iceiceice> hmm i guess i didnt realize clang was actually faster for typical code, nm
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20140222 21:06:40< jamit> AI0867: Thanks. Guess I was too tried last night to think to ask Google.
20140222 21:07:02< jamit> Guess my C++ training had focused on constructors instead of initializations.
20140222 21:09:27< jamit> I'll go try to internalize this info.
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20140222 21:26:45< _8680__> iceiceice: Clang is newer, faster, sleeker, more “modern”, etc. See <http://clang.llvm.org/features.html#performance>, if you haven’t already.
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20140222 21:30:50< fabi_> _8680_: What do I need to do for the change?
20140222 21:32:00< _8680_> fabi_: What?
20140222 21:32:04< _8680_> What change?
20140222 21:32:06< fabi_> clang
20140222 21:32:20< _8680_> What about Clang?
20140222 21:32:40< fabi_> I like to compile with clang.
20140222 21:33:12< _8680_> Okay, so do I.
20140222 21:34:22< _8680_> Are you asking me for help with Clang?
20140222 21:34:48< fabi_> yes
20140222 21:35:17< _8680_> I’m not an expert on it, but I can try; what you want help with?
20140222 21:35:23< _8680_> s/what you/what do you/
20140222 21:35:26< AI0867> fabi_: if you're using scons, do: scons cxxtool=clang++
20140222 21:35:28< AI0867> and you're done
20140222 21:35:34< fabi_> tx
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20140222 21:37:05< fabi_> Which clang version best to install?
20140222 21:37:22< _8680_> The latest stable one, I’d assume.
20140222 21:37:50< fabi_> I can choose between .3.2, 3.3 and 3.4
20140222 21:38:20< _8680_> Then 3.4, if it’s considered stable by your Linux distribution.
20140222 21:38:29< _8680_> (You do use Linux, right?)
20140222 21:38:41< fabi_> Ubuntu
20140222 21:38:55< _8680_> 3.4 is the current upstream stable release.
20140222 21:38:59< fabi_> I have found a meta package, it installed 3.2 :-)
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20140222 21:42:37< fabi_> AI0867: Do you have some time?
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20140222 23:02:02< Espreon> shadowm: And what's wrong with breaking shit to fix an inconsistency in a scenario of a campaign that no one cares about?
20140222 23:02:16< Espreon> Just let people know and tell them how to fix it.
20140222 23:05:09< Espreon> Besides, it's not like we'd be doing this in a stable version.
20140222 23:11:31< shadowm> Espreon: Nothing that warrants strong language, I think.
20140222 23:12:07< shadowm> iceiceice: It was the indentation and the lack of a blank line between the 1.11.10 and 1.11.9 blocks that shocked me.
20140222 23:12:26< shadowm> The indenttation was deeper than it should be for that nesting level.
20140222 23:12:35< Espreon> shadowm: Perhaps, but still.
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20140222 23:15:52< Espreon> (A real answer would be appreciated)
20140222 23:16:01< shadowm> fabi_: The gcc and clang meta packages in Debian and derivatives are mostly used to install whichever version is the most well tested (esp. for building packages, in gcc's case).
20140222 23:16:16< shadowm> So if you want to install a newer version you can do so.
20140222 23:16:33< shadowm> Espreon: It's ultimately zookeeper's call as the EI maintainer, not mine.
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20140222 23:18:14< Espreon> All right.
20140222 23:19:46< shadowm> iceiceice: Oh yeah, I have a complaint about one of your new features. :)
20140222 23:20:27< shadowm> I really should have reviewed the diff at least earlier, now I'll have to mess with pofix later...
20140222 23:21:22< Espreon> shadowm: BTW, you may be interested in fixing the "Choose file" string in wesnoth-editor
20140222 23:21:49< shadowm> Espreon: Uh yeah, what is it?
20140222 23:22:09< Espreon> Something that should be in Title Case.
20140222 23:22:22< Espreon> I think it's part of a dialog for the ToD creator.
20140222 23:22:33< shadowm> Well, if you could fix it yourself and deal with pofix that'd be great. Last time I messed with that, Ivanovic tried to eat me.
20140222 23:23:26< Espreon> I guess I'll have to fire up my desktop, then.
20140222 23:23:41< shadowm> There is no hurry, I think.
20140222 23:23:45< Espreon> Well, OK
20140222 23:23:54< shadowm> I am not sure if we are supposed to be committing to master yet or not.
20140222 23:24:25< iceiceice> shadowm: i'm all ears, and sorry about the indentation, i didn't realize i messed that up...
20140222 23:25:47< Ivanovic> shadowm: you are if you want to commit bugfixes and translation updates
20140222 23:25:48< Ivanovic> ;)
20140222 23:26:03< shadowm> This stuff counts as typo fixes and I don't know how to use pofix.
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20140222 23:28:01< Ivanovic> add the string in "old version" and "new version" to pofix.py
20140222 23:28:11< Ivanovic> then run pofix.py on the pot file and all po files
20140222 23:28:12< Espreon> shadowm: Just write the rule, put it under wesnoth-editor, run pofix on all the po files in wesnoth-edior, get the source string in sync, and commit. Though, make sure your rule doesn't change shit that shouldn't be changed in other domains.
20140222 23:32:57< shadowm> Ivanovic: In the same commit?
20140222 23:33:42< shadowm> iceiceice: http://wesnoth.org/images/sshots/wesnoth-1.11.10-2.jpg -- As a training exercise, tell me what is wrong with this picture.
20140222 23:33:43< Ivanovic> yes, i would do all steps in the same commit
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20140222 23:33:53< Ivanovic> change utils/pofix.py and apply it on all po files
20140222 23:34:11< Ivanovic> after applying to the po and pot files make sure that you only applied it to the "correct" files
20140222 23:34:21< Ivanovic> if not: revert the change since you break other stuff...
20140222 23:35:36< shadowm> iceiceice: Hint: it's in the dialog box.
20140222 23:35:48< Espreon> Yes, the pot file too.
20140222 23:36:04 * Espreon tends to forget about those...
20140222 23:37:06< shadowm> Ivanovic: Hm, do I leave the older entries in stringfixes there?
20140222 23:37:13< Ivanovic> yes
20140222 23:37:19< Ivanovic> you only add your line
20140222 23:37:31< iceiceice> shadowm: sry was distracted
20140222 23:37:49< iceiceice> you think it should read "set player's sides to idle?"
20140222 23:38:03< iceiceice> the "replace with local player" is how it has always been i guess, i didnt change that
20140222 23:38:23< shadowm> iceiceice: No, I think that's fine.
20140222 23:38:31< shadowm> The problem is that all options use Sentence case but one.
20140222 23:40:33< iceiceice> i'm afraid i dont understand
20140222 23:40:38< iceiceice> is this about "abort" being capitalized?
20140222 23:41:09< Espreon> Indeed.
20140222 23:42:13< shadowm> "Sentence case looks like this", "Title Case Looks Like This Most of the Time"
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20140222 23:43:14< iceiceice> shadowm: do you think that Abort (without save) should also be an option? you can do this by cancelling the save dialog that pops up but it is less clicks if abort is in the menu i guess
20140222 23:43:42< Ivanovic> n8
20140222 23:44:07< shadowm> Hm, perhaps? I personally don't mind saving all the time since I have loads of disk space to spare.
20140222 23:44:49< shadowm> An actual player might be inclined to not save if the disconnection occurred less than 6 turns into the game, though.
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20140222 23:57:04< iceiceice> y i guess will have to just ask people in testing if they found the extra click annoying
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