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20140225 00:28:02< irker200> wesnoth-umc-dev: anonymissimus * r19503 /trunk/A_Simple_Campaign/units/Custom_Unit.cfg: 
20140225 00:28:02< irker200> wesnoth-umc-dev: wmllint fix
20140225 00:28:05< irker200> wesnoth-umc-dev: anonymissimus * r19504 /trunk/A_Simple_Campaign/ (.project .wesnoth): 
20140225 00:28:06< irker200> wesnoth-umc-dev: remove eclipse files
20140225 00:28:09< irker200> wesnoth-umc-dev: anonymissimus * r19505 /trunk/A_Simple_Campaign/version: 
20140225 00:28:10< irker200> wesnoth-umc-dev: update version, releasing for 1.12
20140225 00:28:50< mattsc> Fred, y u so stupid ?!?
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20140225 03:27:34< irker200> wesnoth-umc-dev: RC: Is now a 1 player mp campaign.
20140225 03:29:04< irker200> wesnoth-umc-dev: sigurdfdragon * r19507 /trunk/Random_Campaign/_main.cfg: 
20140225 03:29:05< irker200> wesnoth-umc-dev: RC: Disable 1 & 3 player mp 4 scenario campaign.
20140225 03:38:38< irker200> wesnoth-umc-dev: sigurdfdragon * r19508 /trunk/Random_Campaign/ (utils_sp/_sides.cfg scenarios_sp/SP_00.cfg): 
20140225 03:38:39< irker200> wesnoth-umc-dev: RC: Make opponent list work without hardcoding.
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20140225 04:31:43< irker200> wesnoth-umc-dev: sigurdfdragon * r19509 /trunk/Random_Campaign/_main.cfg: 
20140225 04:31:44< irker200> wesnoth-umc-dev: RC: Allow era choice for the campaign.
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20140225 05:12:37< irker200> wesnoth-umc-dev: RC: Change accessing eras to by number.
20140225 05:12:38< irker200> wesnoth-umc-dev: 1. This allows for use of arbitrary eras instead of the hard coded one.
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20140225 14:36:06< mattsc> vultraz: well, I said yesterday that I was not aware of any bugs in the MAIs.  That statement was true, but the implied "there almost certainly will be bugs that I haven't found yet" is also, of course.
20140225 14:37:23< mattsc> And sure enough, somebody found a bug in the messenger AI that produces a error if the messenger is removed in a moveto event.  This type of bug might also affect other MAIs, although I don't know yet if guardians is affected.
20140225 14:38:06< mattsc> So ... if you still find a problem with the guardians (or any other MAI), please let me know.  The fix for this one is easy, I just need to go through all the AIs and try to find all possible occurrences of this.
20140225 14:44:57< vultraz> mattsc: in my case the unit was killed via combat, and the error appeared next turn
20140225 14:45:03< vultraz> no moveto events
20140225 14:45:14< vultraz> next side turn*
20140225 14:46:08< mattsc> vultraz: yeah, that's like because of the faulty BCA removal thingy then and should not be an issue any more.
20140225 14:46:44< vultraz> Ok
20140225 14:47:04< vultraz> Did you ever have any replicable results with my messenger mai grouping issue?
20140225 14:47:27< mattsc> vultraz: no, I never managed to replicate that
20140225 14:47:36< vultraz> Hm
20140225 14:47:56< vultraz> :/ Can't understand it. Problems for days until I talked to you, then it works
20140225 14:48:57< mattsc> It's because of my magical powers.
20140225 14:49:39< vultraz> xD
20140225 14:50:04< vultraz> I have to do another pass on that scenario anyway, I'll see if issues crop up again
20140225 14:50:51< mattsc> Okay - any issues you find, please let me know.  I'd like the MAIs to be as bug free as possible going into 1.12.0.
20140225 14:51:02< mattsc> That goes without saying, I guess ...  :P
20140225 14:51:51< mattsc> On the other hand, I am pretty close to giving up concerning Fred ...
20140225 14:54:21< vultraz> I had a FR regarding them awhile back...can't remember it now
20140225 14:54:29< vultraz> something to do with [avoid]
20140225 14:55:15< mattsc> vultraz: I do remember and worked on it quite a bit and decided that I can't do it by myself, or at least not before 1.11.13.
20140225 14:55:28< vultraz> Oh, ah
20140225 14:55:38< vultraz> (what was it?)
20140225 14:56:13< mattsc> Doing path-finding taking [avoid] into account for the Goto MAI
20140225 14:56:56< mattsc> I got the basic concept working, but there are complications that require a lot more care and testing than I had time for.
20140225 14:57:40< mattsc> It also requires changes to the C++ path finding code, so you have to be extremely careful with that, not just to make sure it doesn't break anything, but also to not slow things down.
20140225 14:59:12< mattsc> vultraz: so it's not forgotten.  It's on my list and I've made progress on it, but it's postponed until the 1.13 branch (which is what I mean up there, of course, not 1.11.13)
20140225 14:59:13< vultraz> Blegh. So code. Much complex
20140225 14:59:40< vultraz> I have a feeling 1.13 will be interesting
20140225 15:00:45< vultraz> Hoping to be able to finish the unitbox theme with lordbob
20140225 15:00:46< mattsc> Well, we'll see.  I'd really like to get a new decent MP AI into that branch, but as I said, I'm at a loss at the moment how to get Fred to do what I want him to do.
20140225 15:01:05< mattsc> But yeah, I'm sure there will be plenty of other interesting stuff
20140225 15:02:18< vultraz> GSoC always brings nice things
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20140225 19:36:52< irker175> wesnoth-umc-dev: anonymissimus * r19511 /trunk/Plan_Your_Advancements_Mod/lua/ (_main _main.lua): 
20140225 19:36:53< irker175> wesnoth-umc-dev: fix broken image
20140225 19:36:56< irker175> wesnoth-umc-dev: anonymissimus * r19512 /trunk/Plan_Your_Advancements_Mod/dist/ (required_version version): 
20140225 19:36:57< irker175> wesnoth-umc-dev: bump version & required version
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20140225 20:44:38< mattsc> Velensk: hi, sorry, I just don't want to tie up #wesnoth-dev with this
20140225 20:44:45< Velensk> The Caravans should go on a wide path around the rough terrain in the middle and try to avoid enemies
20140225 20:44:55< Velensk> mattsc: quite alright
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20140225 20:45:56< mattsc> Velensk: there's a possibility that two Goto AIs (one for the caravans and one for the escorts) might work.  Or a combination of Goto and Hang Out.
20140225 20:47:54< mattsc> Velensk: another option would, of course, be to adapt the messenger AI.  I can't do that in 1.11 atm, but we could export it into your campaign, change it, and then port it into mainline for 1.13.
20140225 20:48:59< mattsc> ^ this is about control multiple units with it.  The bug with the error message will be fixed in 1.11.11, of course.
20140225 20:49:08< mattsc> s/control/controling
20140225 20:49:50< Velensk> mattsc: I would appreciate it if the ai was adapted more to the circumstance I have. What would you need to be able to help me?
20140225 20:50:17< mattsc> Current version of the scenario.  Is the one on the add-on server up to date?
20140225 20:51:51< Velensk> The one on 1.10 is fine however I have not uploaded the one I am working on for 1.11
20140225 20:52:18< mattsc> Velensk: maybe just send me the scenario in a PM then?
20140225 20:52:29< Velensk> Thank you, I will.
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20140225 20:52:43< Velensk> you'll need Era of Four Moons to play it
20140225 20:53:01< mattsc> no worries, I can get that off the server (actually, I think I have it already)
20140225 20:53:15< mattsc> Velensk: have a look at this: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Micro_AIs#Patrol_Micro_AI_.28ai_type.3Dpatrol.29
20140225 20:53:37< mattsc> and see if what's described under 'id or [filter]' would work for the Messenger AI for your purpose?
20140225 20:54:22< Velensk> a filter would work just fine
20140225 20:55:10< Velensk> a filter for units to be protected that is
20140225 20:55:24< mattsc> right - that's how I meant it
20140225 20:55:44< mattsc> okay - I would like to keep the id= key for backward compatibility, so I'll see if I can implement it in the same way then
20140225 21:02:06< Velensk> mattsc: I just sent you it
20140225 21:04:04< mattsc> Velensk: got it, thanks.  I don't think I'll have time today, but should be able to have at least a first look at it tomorrow.
20140225 21:08:28< mattsc> Velensk: is the EoFM on the 1.11 add-ons server?  Or do I just use the one from 1.11?
20140225 21:08:44< mattsc> * ... from 1.10
20140225 21:09:33< Velensk> mattsc: EoFM is on the 1.11 server or if it isn't it should be. I have some changes on my copy from both servers but they should both be usable.
20140225 21:14:32< mattsc> Velensk: oh, right, 1.11.10 uses the 1.12 add-ons server, not the 1.11 server
20140225 21:15:01< mattsc> I can get there with 1.11.9 though, so no problem
20140225 21:21:04< mattsc> Velensk: okay, I confirmed that I can get into scenario 4 without problems.  I'll look into the AI tomorrow.
20140225 21:21:19< Velensk> mattsc: thank you
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20140225 21:35:05< irker175> wesnoth-umc-dev: sigurdfdragon * r19513 /trunk/Random_Campaign/ (utils_common/dialog.cfg utils_sp/_sides.cfg): 
20140225 21:35:06< irker175> wesnoth-umc-dev: RC: Make computer side & dialog work with shuffle sides.
20140225 21:35:06< irker175> wesnoth-umc-dev: The code needs changes if ever to make this path more than 1p.
20140225 21:35:07< irker175> wesnoth-umc-dev: The changes in dialog will cause giltches in the 3p version.
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