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20140228 01:07:25-!- Topic for #wesnoth-umc-dev: Wesnoth-UMC-Dev Project discussion and support channel | http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net | Staff: AI0867, Espreon | Blog: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net/blog/ | IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org, http://irclogs.ai0867.net
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20140228 13:39:46< irker194> windfolk: Bär Halberkamp Era_of_Chaos:master 52fa3294e829 / units/human-aragwaithi/Aragwaith_Flagbearer.cfg: Updated the Aragwaith Flagbearer to the new syntax http://git.io/Tqoxjg
20140228 13:39:49< irker194> windfolk: Bär Halberkamp Era_of_Chaos:master fa91c4bd1a9d / units/human-aragwaithi/ (Aragwaith_Greatbow.cfg Aragwaith_Guard.cfg Aragwaith_Guardian.cfg): Updated a few more Aragwaithi to the new syntax http://git.io/oguQJQ
20140228 13:39:52< irker194> windfolk: Bär Halberkamp Era_of_Chaos:master ae7ab0d5e000 / / (14 files in 4 dirs): Ran wmlindent http://git.io/JMCTMA
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20140228 16:01:22< irker194> wesnoth-umc-dev: ln-zookeeper * r19539 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
20140228 16:01:24< irker194> wesnoth-umc-dev: Added PickYourRecruits.
20140228 16:02:17< irker194> wesnoth-umc-dev: ln-zookeeper * r19540 /trunk/PickYourRecruits_Era: 
20140228 16:02:18< irker194> wesnoth-umc-dev: Deleted the now-obsolete PickYourRecruits_Era.
20140228 16:05:00< zookeeper> now, what'd be the best way to make the AI pick units...
20140228 16:07:24< mattsc> zookeeper: I don't know what that means
20140228 16:07:46< zookeeper> mattsc, care to name any mainline campaign scenarios where there's anything special about how and what the AI recruits?
20140228 16:08:39< mattsc> zookeeper: except for the LIMIT_RECRUIT macros ...  Hmm ...
20140228 16:09:43< zookeeper> mattsc, eh, basically the AI has every possible unit available for recruit, and i want it to pick a random but still sensible "dream team"
20140228 16:10:16< mattsc> Random is easy ...
20140228 16:10:21< mattsc> Sensible is harder ...
20140228 16:10:22< zookeeper> in PYR you choose your recruit list on the first turn, and then play a normal match from second turn onwards
20140228 16:10:34< zookeeper> i figured i'd just pick a random unit of each usage
20140228 16:11:32< mattsc> zookeeper: sure, that might work.  I guess I misunderstood the question.  You are not asking how to code this, are you?
20140228 16:13:33< zookeeper> no, i just figured that if there's any special recruitment handling in some scenarios then i'd have a look
20140228 16:13:56< mattsc> zookeeper: another option might be to count melee and ranged attacks, as well as weapon specials and abilities.
20140228 16:14:25< mattsc> zookeeper: I am not aware of any scenario doing something like that.
20140228 16:14:49< mattsc> If you want to go sophisticated, you could check out how Alarantalara's recruiter pick its units.
20140228 16:15:26< mattsc> It won't be usable directly, but it might give some idea how to balance unit types.
20140228 16:16:02< zookeeper> mmyeah
20140228 16:16:06< zookeeper> it doesn
20140228 16:16:30< zookeeper> 't need to be super sophisticated, just something that doesn't pick all units of the same type (like scouts) or something else silly
20140228 16:17:42< zookeeper> the special thing it needs to be able to cope with is that the recruits vanish immediately
20140228 16:18:29< zookeeper> although i guess i could workaround that if necessary
20140228 16:18:40< zookeeper> anyway, thanks, i'll see what i can come up with
20140228 16:19:10< mattsc> okay  :)
20140228 16:49:27< irker194> mattsc: mattsc AI-demos:master 7892e60c8acd / lua/ai_helper.lua: ai_helper: add the checked AI actions functions http://git.io/00aUqg
20140228 16:49:29< irker194> mattsc: mattsc AI-demos:master 515b70f42e39 / lua/ai_helper.lua: Use checked AI action functions in ai_helper functions http://git.io/qu2q8Q
20140228 16:49:31< irker194> mattsc: mattsc AI-demos:master 7e662e2050b2 / lua/ (generic_recruit_engine.lua generic_rush_engine.lua move_to_any_target.lua): Generic rush/recruit: use checked AI action functions http://git.io/JsBjnQ
20140228 16:49:33< irker194> mattsc: mattsc AI-demos:master 7ab0f6c9c229 / lua/generic_rush_engine.lua: Generic rush spread poison: prevent AI being disabled by WML events http://git.io/EAryOg
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20140228 17:10:09< irker194> mattsc: mattsc AI-demos:master 0872a990b306 / lua/ca_move_unittype.lua: move_unittype CA: use checked AI action functions http://git.io/YKkpaw
20140228 17:10:11< irker194> mattsc: mattsc AI-demos:master da34b1ef84d3 / lua/prune_cart_engine.lua: Prune cart: use checked AI action functions http://git.io/C9ZfhQ
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