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20140214 05:01:42< shadowm> 01:59:11 <shadowm> Does anyone here have an official release Windows build (1.11.9, 1.11.8, etc.) of Wesnoth to test?
20140214 05:01:45< shadowm> 01:59:34 <shadowm> ... to test something for me, that is.
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20140214 06:17:01< galegosi1patico> I'm leaving to the office now, but I have a win5 virtual machine that I can use for it.
20140214 06:17:41< shadowm> Oh, it's not necessary anymore. I had vultraz test the thing for me.
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20140214 14:22:58< no0code> hi Ivanovic :)
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20140214 20:15:30< Nobun> Are there wesnoth translators online (that translate wesnoth itself or UMCs)? I had to ask some opinions for a program I am developing
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20140214 20:24:29< Rhonda> Nobun: What question?
20140214 20:26:36< Nobun> about po comments, and mainly about if some default comments are essentials or can be considered optional
20140214 20:26:47< Nobun> I make an example to explain
20140214 20:27:17< Nobun> for example there is no doubt that, for a translation, is absolutely useful, for example, knowing the speaker of a message
20140214 20:27:20< Nobun> so
20140214 20:27:26< Nobun> [speaker]: message 
20140214 20:27:30< Nobun> sorry
20140214 20:27:37< Nobun> [message]: speaker_name
20140214 20:27:44< Nobun> is a very useful information
20140214 20:28:03< Nobun> but I am asking myself if some info can be considered optional
20140214 20:28:19< Nobun> (I am developing an alternate program to extract po files in locale)
20140214 20:28:32< Nobun> for example
20140214 20:28:37< Nobun> if the tag is [side]
20140214 20:29:04< Nobun> in the translations I see the info "type" and "id" seems to me not so important
20140214 20:29:24< Nobun> but before making assumptions I'd like to collect opinions
20140214 20:30:11< Nobun> becouse even if I admit that I try to reduce some "tag parameter infos" mainly becouse of some difficulties I am encountering
20140214 20:30:38< Nobun> I don't want to forget a comment if it is useful guide in a translation
20140214 20:30:49< Nobun> I hope I explained my question
20140214 20:34:40< happygrue> Nobun: have you looked at this:  http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WesnothTranslationsHowTo
20140214 20:34:58< happygrue> someone who knows will eventually answer but you might find help in there
20140214 20:35:16< Nobun> perhaps I explained bad my question
20140214 20:35:37< Nobun> I am not asking about the .po structure (and thank for the link)
20140214 20:36:19< Nobun> more or less I know the structure (actually I developed some years ago a 1.0 of the program, now I am trying to be more accurate)
20140214 20:37:03< Nobun> but I try to understand if some comments (that translators see when using traslation tool like poedit or similar)
20140214 20:37:09< Nobun> like
20140214 20:37:30< Nobun> [side] type = unit id= unit_id
20140214 20:37:47< Nobun> (in po described with #. comment)
20140214 20:38:28< Nobun> are truely useful for a translation (if they actually help them to translate) or if they are useless
20140214 20:39:01< Nobun> for example, like I said
20140214 20:39:27< Nobun> the program comment that shows [message]: speaker is undoubtly extremely useful
20140214 20:39:58< Nobun> but in other circumstances, how much those comments are actually useful?
20140214 20:40:21< Nobun> (I mean... can be enough specifying only the tag where the string was found?)
20140214 20:42:45 * zookeeper has never translated so he doesn't know
20140214 20:44:06< Nobun> I appreciate, zookeeper, thank you ^^
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20140214 21:26:28< galegosimpatico> Dear Nobun: Google translation service keeps surprising me with funny translations. Without a deep blue budget or a legion of open source languistic specialist contributors already following your project, you have no silver bullet. I can tell Wesnoth is translated very well to spanish. I do not know why, but the data is right over there.
20140214 21:30:05< Nobun> eh eh
20140214 21:31:05< Nobun> but I am trying to develop an other way to extract po... and not only WesCamp
20140214 21:31:32< Nobun> there is not an easy tool that can extract .po files in locale 
20140214 21:31:44< Nobun> (with WesCamp you must upload extension)
20140214 21:34:44< Soliton> there's a i18n mailing list, i think. might get the best feedback there.
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