--- Log opened Tue Mar 04 00:00:02 2014 20140304 00:01:00-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140304 00:01:00-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.109.220.245] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 00:09:22-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.134.73.90] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 00:09:47< iceiceice> happygrue: :) 20140304 00:10:26< sachith500> hey everyone :) 20140304 00:17:34< iceiceice> hmm anyone think they can explain part of the unit_map implementation logic to me? 20140304 00:17:36< iceiceice> particularly at this point: 20140304 00:17:37< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/src/unit_map.hpp#L255 20140304 00:18:42-!- spoffy [~spoffy@152.78.175.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140304 00:21:21< iceiceice> it seems that when an iterator is the last iterator pointing to a unit, 20140304 00:21:27< iceiceice> it should delete the unit even if the unit is not null yet 20140304 00:21:43< iceiceice> otherwise when does it get freed 20140304 00:21:50< iceiceice> i guess when the level ends? 20140304 00:21:56< iceiceice> maybe this scenario doesnt happen or i'm misreading it 20140304 00:25:36-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20140304 00:25:42-!- stikonas__ [~gentoo@cpc18-sgyl27-2-0-cust35.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 00:32:04-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@f048128114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 01:05:32-!- mattsc [~mattsc@fw.hia.nrc.ca] has quit [Quit: Ciao] 20140304 01:08:42< AI0867> fabi_: well, the tests are now run after the build is done. You can see the list of fails in the buildlog 20140304 01:25:18-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.109.220.245] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140304 01:25:32-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.170.132] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 01:27:35-!- TC01 [~quassel@128.220.109.252] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140304 01:30:49-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20140304 01:32:02-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20140304 01:47:06-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 01:47:14-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has quit [Changing host] 20140304 01:47:14-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 01:48:09-!- werlley [~werlley@187-41-165-87.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 01:58:58-!- stikonas__ [~gentoo@cpc18-sgyl27-2-0-cust35.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20140304 02:04:17-!- Aishiko_laptop [~unknown@cpe-065-191-176-226.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 02:06:12-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.134.73.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20140304 02:18:00-!- iceiceice [~chris@207-237-132-90.ny.subnet.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20140304 02:28:57-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 20140304 02:32:53< fabi_> AI0867: Thank you very much. Does that mean that travis prints a warning here in irc? 20140304 02:33:25-!- mattsc [~mattsc@154.20.32.245] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 02:41:00-!- iceiceice [~chris@cpe-66-108-20-80.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 02:47:00-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@f048128114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140304 02:56:20< AI0867> fabi_: no, you have to go look at the build logs yourself 20140304 02:56:47< AI0867> I could make a successful test result a requirement for a successful build, but that'd just cause every build to be marked as failed until someone fixes things 20140304 02:57:31< AI0867> jenkins can do more granular success/fail, so that may be an idea 20140304 03:05:00< Aishiko_laptop> please don't say Leroy 20140304 03:05:20< Aishiko_laptop> there has to be another way then to give lLeroy that control =P 20140304 03:05:36-!- happygrue [~happygrue@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20140304 03:06:27< shadowm> Aishiko_laptop: What's the deal with PR #115 then? 20140304 03:07:28< shadowm> Have you figured out what's wrong with the code yet? 20140304 03:07:33< Aishiko_laptop> shadowm, I thought I had fixed a minor translation bug but further testing shows that it wasn't completely successful so it should not be accepted 20140304 03:07:59< Aishiko_laptop> I think its an error with the translation half 20140304 03:08:13< shadowm> Well, of course it doesn't solve the problem -- you aren't using vgettext() right. 20140304 03:08:28< shadowm> The original overload in use: std::string vgettext(const char* msgid, const utils::string_map& symbols); 20140304 03:08:44< shadowm> The overload your commit uses: std::string vgettext(const char* domain, const char* msgid, const utils::string_map& symbols); 20140304 03:09:22< shadowm> So, it compiles, but does something completely wrong -- the domain argument is the textdomain to fetch the translation from. 20140304 03:09:25< Aishiko_laptop> yeah I mess ed up 20140304 03:10:53-!- tomreyn [~tomreyn@megaglest/team/tomreyn] has quit [Quit: tomreyn] 20140304 03:11:04< Aishiko_laptop> we already found that out, I thought they had rejected it (and rightly so) after we found it didn't fix the issue 20140304 03:11:30< shadowm> I've just closed it now. 20140304 03:13:50< Aishiko_laptop> thank you, I thought they did that hours ago! 20140304 03:14:14< shadowm> 14:29:29 OK, problem solved, I just didn't have the latest dev version. Is there a reason the wiki doesn't say *which* 1.11.x is needed for each feature? 20140304 03:14:17< Aishiko_laptop> I'm trying to figure out why it did that 20140304 03:14:45< shadowm> EliDupree: Because the parametric form of the DevFeature1.11 template used to mark such things was only introduced recently. 20140304 03:15:09-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@x2f3ba21.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 03:15:53< shadowm> I imagine not many people have heard of it... even though I posted a thread and everything: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=39830 20140304 03:16:55< shadowm> I decided to not bother editing past instances since someone will have to go and remove DevFeature1.11 from everything within the next couple of months anyway, and then we can just make the parameter required for DevFeature1.13. 20140304 03:17:36< shadowm> Actually, i should probably go and create the later right now. 20140304 03:17:40< shadowm> latter 20140304 03:17:44-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@x2f3ba21.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Changing host] 20140304 03:17:44-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 03:17:48< Aishiko_laptop> latter and thank you for closing that 20140304 03:17:59 * Aishiko_laptop will do better checks in the future 20140304 03:18:08< shadowm> No, I'm not leaving. 20140304 03:18:16< fabi_> AI0867: Yes, please do that, make a successful unit test suite run a condition for a successful build. 20140304 03:18:47-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20140304 03:19:17-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20140304 03:26:46< Aishiko_laptop> I'm noticing that in the details of the MP lobby are not translated (which is what I was trying to fix in part but I missed that None of the white text was being translated) http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=f0aa678 20140304 03:27:29< Aishiko_laptop> plus the Green game should likely be translated as well 20140304 03:29:08< shadowm> games_.back().map_info = _("Scenario:"); 20140304 03:29:34< shadowm> Which language is that? Is the string already translated in the po file (i.e. the msgstr is not empty)? 20140304 03:29:45< fabi_> German 20140304 03:30:09< shadowm> Hm, it is translated. 20140304 03:30:53< fabi_> "Szenario" 20140304 03:31:06< shadowm> It is translated for me too. 20140304 03:31:39< shadowm> Aishiko_laptop: Right, you are a bit out of date, as evidenced by the version number -- it should be 1.11.11+dev. 20140304 03:31:46-!- vorobeez [~quassel@85.142.148.12] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 03:32:18< Aishiko_laptop> ohh I need to update then don't I? 20140304 03:32:19< shadowm> There was a German translation update less than 12 hours before the 1.11.11 release, so if you git pull and build, you should get the current translations. 20140304 03:32:24< Aishiko_laptop> I was current this morning 20140304 03:32:54< shadowm> When was "this morning"? This was over a day ago. 20140304 03:33:25< Aishiko_laptop> sorry I'm think of what is in my fork, not the local machine 20140304 03:36:59-!- werlley [~werlley@187-41-165-87.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20140304 03:38:35-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 03:57:55-!- Gambit [~derek@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140304 04:08:54-!- sachith500_ [c0f80841@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.248.8.65] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 04:14:18-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20140304 04:17:02-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 04:53:33-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20140304 04:54:31-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 04:59:03-!- sachith500_ [c0f80841@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.248.8.65] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20140304 05:00:50< iceiceice> hey i have a question about lua private units: 20140304 05:00:55< iceiceice> is lua responsible for deleting them? 20140304 05:01:31< iceiceice> i assume it must as it seems no one else could be? 20140304 05:01:43< iceiceice> *it must be 20140304 05:04:15-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-57.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 05:08:32< iceiceice> does this question even make sense for lua? 20140304 05:08:52< iceiceice> hmm... 20140304 05:10:17< EliDupree> I assume they should be garbage collected 20140304 05:20:12-!- EliDupree [~quassel@66-189-34-122.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20140304 05:24:48-!- EliDupree [~quassel@66-189-34-122.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 05:24:56-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140304 05:26:11-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 05:28:25-!- mattsc [~mattsc@154.20.32.245] has quit [Quit: Ciao] 20140304 05:31:42-!- sachith500_ [c0f80841@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.248.8.65] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 05:36:44-!- EliDupree [~quassel@66-189-34-122.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20140304 05:37:37-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20140304 05:39:40-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 05:44:06< Aishiko_laptop> is anyone else having issues connecting to wiki.wesnoth.org? its reporting a database connection error 20140304 05:44:16< shadowm> Yes, I'm looking into it. 20140304 05:44:37< Aishiko_laptop> ohh OK, just thought I'd say something in case no one had noticed yet 20140304 05:50:18-!- vorobeez [~quassel@85.142.148.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20140304 05:54:23-!- sachith500_ [c0f80841@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.248.8.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20140304 06:05:32< shadowm> We have a bit of a situation here, so the wiki and forums will remain down for the time being. 20140304 06:06:54 * shadowm checks the gsoc timeline. 20140304 06:07:54-!- shadowm changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: Wesnoth.org is dead, long live Wesnoth.org | string+feature freeze active on master | 215 bugs, 350 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Alternate logs: http://wesnoth.debian.net | Don't paste on IRC! 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Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20140304 07:27:52-!- shadowm changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: string+feature freeze active on master | 215 bugs, 349 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Alternate logs: http://wesnoth.debian.net | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20140304 07:27:58-!- Gneiss [d31a07cd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.211.26.7.205] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20140304 07:28:09< shadowm> Wiki should be back up now. 20140304 07:35:23< shadowm> Actually, no. I'm taking the wiki back down. 20140304 07:39:36-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.219.139.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140304 07:50:12-!- trademark_ [~trademark@nsg93-8-88-175-59-164.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 07:55:28-!- leanu [c316f1e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.22.241.230] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 07:58:18< shadowm> Wiki back up for real now. 20140304 07:58:45< vultraz> \o/ 20140304 08:03:28-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 08:09:06-!- thunderstruck [~zaibotren@cpc13-sgyl31-2-0-cust696.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 08:12:42-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20140304 08:25:50-!- boucman_work [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev --- Log opened Tue Mar 04 09:10:20 2014 20140304 09:10:35-!- lobby [~wesnoth@wesnoth/bot/lobby] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 09:10:35-!- Topic for #wesnoth-dev: string+feature freeze active on master | 215 bugs, 349 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Alternate logs: http://wesnoth.debian.net | Don't paste on IRC! 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20140304 10:17:51-!- irker567 [~irker@109.237.218.218] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 10:17:51< irker567> wesnoth: WKuchta wesnoth:master 9394800c5ebe / po/wesnoth-tb/pl.po: PL translation for campain of two brothers http://git.io/h6dnVQ 20140304 10:17:53< irker567> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth:master 741e575dc659 / po/wesnoth-tb/pl.po: Merge pull request #110 from klapi85/master http://git.io/9kqYng 20140304 10:18:16< fabi_> AI0867: I guess you know the chicken egg story :-) 20140304 10:18:26< AI0867> yes 20140304 10:19:02< AI0867> but this is less likely to annoy people into fixing the tests than it is to annoy people into ignoring travis or (best case) annoy them into disabling the tests 20140304 10:20:13< fabi_> I don't know if the tests have to be fixed or if the errors are actually in the implementation and the test is right to complain about them. 20140304 10:28:06-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@2001:738:5404:192:9e4e:36ff:fe7c:534c] has quit [Quit: Vannak idők, mikor menni 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No idea what you are talking about :-) 20140304 13:01:25< fabi_> happygrue: Okay, found it in the logs. 20140304 13:02:18< happygrue> ah, then you won't need this: http://pastebin.com/uf20aUN0 20140304 13:02:25< happygrue> ninja'd! ;) 20140304 13:03:39-!- Aishiko_laptop [~unknown@cpe-065-191-176-226.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20140304 13:06:39< happygrue> basically, I was wondering if it's easy to move that stuff around? It might be better for the name display to slide that stuff up a bit. 20140304 13:07:08< fabi_> happygrue: It is not hard to move elements around 20140304 13:10:57< fabi_> happygrue: The hp space must hold at least 999/999 for mainline, there are some UMC out there featuring 9999/9999 units. 20140304 13:11:52-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140304 13:11:53< happygrue> mmm, I see 20140304 13:12:32< happygrue> it just made sense to me to put def and hp on the same line, but lacking that perhaps leaving hp alone but moving the level up at least so that names arn't truncated? 20140304 13:12:47< happygrue> I had just mocked it up to be 3 and 3 as it seemed like it would look nicer 20140304 13:14:37< fabi_> happygrue: Do you know how to start the test scenario? 20140304 13:15:33< happygrue> no, I haven't done that 20140304 13:16:00< fabi_> Okay, start wesnoth from the commandline and add the "-t" argument. 20140304 13:16:19< happygrue> okay 20140304 13:16:34< happygrue> give me a few, gotta finish something 20140304 13:17:04< fabi_> At 8/11 there is a unit to test the sidebar. 20140304 13:17:18-!- Yasin` [~Yasin@41.129.37.215] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 13:25:59< happygrue> mmm, I see 20140304 13:26:18< happygrue> though that unit still seems to kind of fail at basic display of the sidebar? 20140304 13:26:39< happygrue> what is visio...? and xp is already chopped off 20140304 13:26:48-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.135.171.49] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 13:27:13-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: string+feature freeze active on master | 214 bugs, 349 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Alternate logs: http://wesnoth.debian.net | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20140304 13:27:20-!- Velensk [~Velensk@cpe-75-187-86-211.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 13:27:46< happygrue> hmmm, wait the build I'm using isn't up to date to include your most recent changes 20140304 13:28:34< happygrue> so not sure if it still displays like that, but it still doesn't seem great. If we're sacrificing regular interface to include these extreme units and it still doesn't display well for them... maybe we should be doing more with tooltips for such units? 20140304 13:28:39< happygrue> or something else? 20140304 13:30:46< happygrue> okay, I see that what was visio... is VP/JP, which I guess is vision points/?? 20140304 13:30:52< happygrue> but it does look pretty full in there :D 20140304 13:33:04< sachith500> hey happygrue :D 20140304 13:33:31< happygrue> o/ 20140304 13:33:39< sachith500> o/ 20140304 13:34:01< sachith500> I've been doing some more brainstorming about the project :D 20140304 13:34:28< sachith500> I've thought of having an extensible database 20140304 13:34:40< sachith500> so any data that is identified later could be incorporated 20140304 13:34:51< sachith500> I'm working out the details now ^_^ 20140304 13:34:55-!- boucman_work [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140304 13:35:20-!- boucman_work [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 13:38:09< happygrue> It is a very good idea to think about later data being included 20140304 13:38:46< sachith500> yeah 20140304 13:39:01< sachith500> It's good within the timeline of the project and a useful feature for afterwards as well 20140304 13:39:12< sachith500> It will be helpful for my iterative plan :D 20140304 13:39:27< fabi_> happygrue: The VP = Vision Points JP = Jamming Points 20140304 13:39:53< sachith500> happygrue in the proposal, should I provide database internal details? 20140304 13:40:05< sachith500> stuff like indexing 20140304 13:40:08< sachith500> etc? 20140304 13:40:19< fabi_> happygrue: But that is already reverted again, I missed the string freeze. So it is "vision" again, for 1.12.0.. 20140304 13:40:30< sachith500> or would a more higher level view be more appropriate? 20140304 13:40:50< sachith500> Soliton, any input? :) 20140304 13:40:59-!- boucman_work [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20140304 13:40:59< Soliton> more high level. 20140304 13:41:04< sachith500> ok I thought so 20140304 13:41:25< fabi_> happygrue: I am away for a few minutes, shopping some food. 20140304 13:41:33< sachith500> I saw somewhere that proposals should list as much technical details as possible 20140304 13:41:37< sachith500> that's why I was asking 20140304 13:41:50< sachith500> I will do my best to keep it abstract 20140304 13:41:52< sachith500> :D 20140304 13:42:45< Soliton> if the technical details are relevant that's cool. but whether there's some index or not does not seem terribly relevant here. :-) 20140304 13:43:07< sachith500> yeah all right :D 20140304 13:43:44< sachith500> so it's all right to go to lower levels as long as it's relevant? 20140304 13:43:56< Soliton> certainly. 20140304 13:44:59< sachith500> ok :D 20140304 14:00:20-!- Velensk [~Velensk@cpe-75-187-86-211.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20140304 14:11:34-!- neXyon [~neXyon@85-127-247-45.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: bye] 20140304 14:13:12-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 14:14:07-!- mattsc [~mattsc@71-19-182-26.dedicated.allstream.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 14:17:32-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20140304 14:36:05-!- irker567 [~irker@109.237.218.218] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20140304 14:36:14< fabi_> happygrue: back 20140304 14:50:22-!- boucman_work [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 14:53:13< happygrue> okay fabi_, it seems that there is a lot going on in the sidebar. My basic reason for bringing it all up was to see if level could be moved to a place where it doesn't hide part of the unit name. 20140304 14:53:14-!- boucman_work [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140304 14:53:37< happygrue> maybe that's not possible with all that stuff in there, but that was what I was thinking about originally 20140304 14:54:47< happygrue> the only other place I could think of would be fitting it into the xp label. somehow? But it starts to look very cluttered already so adding more tiny print in there is probably a bad idea 20140304 14:55:59-!- cib0 [~cib@p20030067CE0E5A01267703FFFEE75B84.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20140304 14:56:01< happygrue> I do think that trying to save room for the hp bar to allow 1000 health units while chopping off xp and the unit's title is not ideal, but I also don't know what to do about it. 20140304 14:56:50< zookeeper> if someone needs a >=1000hp unit then it's not unreasonable to require them to make a modified theme for it 20140304 14:57:13-!- boucman_work [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 14:57:21-!- neXyon [~neXyon@85-127-247-45.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 15:01:06-!- Delfinisko [~Delfinisk@ip-85.163.70.45.o2inet.sk] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 15:06:11< Delfinisko> can i find a translator here? to any language? :) 20140304 15:11:29< leanu> what sort of translator? 20140304 15:12:40-!- neXyon [~neXyon@85-127-247-45.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: bye] 20140304 15:15:51< Delfinisko> someone skilled in both english and his native language :) 20140304 15:19:12-!- mattsc [~mattsc@71-19-182-26.dedicated.allstream.net] has quit [Quit: Computer's napping] 20140304 15:23:48< Yasin`> Delfinisko, you want any language? 20140304 15:23:52-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 15:28:54-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 15:28:58-!- thunderstruck [~zaibotren@cpc13-sgyl31-2-0-cust696.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 15:29:43< happygrue> I am skilled in both English and my native language, but I suspect that is not what he has in mind. ;) 20140304 15:33:27< Delfinisko> yep :) i made a campaign and i am translation it into slovak (my language) right now. for me, as an author, everything is crystal clear, but i donno if everything is clear for others. 20140304 15:33:38< Delfinisko> btw it have 82 strings :) 20140304 15:34:44< Delfinisko> http://www.wesnoth.org/gettext/index.php?package=wesnoth-The_Final_Exam&order=trans&version=master 20140304 15:38:48< zookeeper> no, i doubt you'll find anyone to do UMC translations here 20140304 15:40:33< vultraz> bumbadadabum: is skilled in english and dutch 20140304 15:40:50< bumbadadabum> what? 20140304 15:41:10< Delfinisko> does not hurt to ask :) 20140304 15:44:52-!- Aishiko_laptop [~unknown@198.85.71.253] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 15:45:42-!- TooLmaN [~TooLmaN@mail.thomsonplastics.com] has quit [Quit: Off to save the world!] 20140304 15:45:52< fabi_> happygrue: Sorry, I am not really very responsive today. 20140304 15:47:59< happygrue> no worries, I'm busy today also 20140304 15:50:01< Delfinisko> okay, is here any translator of user made content? :) 20140304 15:52:37< fabi_> Delfinisko: yes 20140304 15:53:21< fabi_> Delfinisko: I did some translation of LoW back when it was not mainlined. Some 5 years ago. 20140304 15:55:58-!- mattsc [~mattsc@fw.hia.nrc.ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 15:56:16< Delfinisko> great, you have a PM :) 20140304 16:00:51-!- vorobeez [~quassel@85.142.148.12] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 16:02:59-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 16:18:15< leanu> Delfinisko, I know english, russian, romanian, but I don't have many experience with translating 20140304 16:19:41< Delfinisko> i know english, slovak and czech, working on slovak translations, but i am by far not the best in the team :) 20140304 16:19:56< leanu> translations are submitted through git? 20140304 16:20:39< Delfinisko> translators are communicating with translation leaders for each language 20140304 16:20:43< Delfinisko> but yes 20140304 16:22:32-!- justinzane [~justinzan@tiny.justinzane.com] has quit [] 20140304 16:22:37< fabi_> leanu: pong 20140304 16:23:32< leanu> As I understand, translation is the value of msgstr? 20140304 16:24:42< Delfinisko> poedit is a good tool for it. with it, it is really easy 20140304 16:24:47< Delfinisko> i reconmend it :) 20140304 16:26:59-!- Aishiko_laptop [~unknown@198.85.71.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20140304 16:29:48-!- leanu [c316f1e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.22.241.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20140304 16:33:01< Yasin`> Yeah, I used poedit before, I second that. 20140304 16:33:27-!- leanu [c316f1e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.22.241.230] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 16:46:51-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20140304 16:53:02-!- werlley [~werlley@187-41-166-97.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 16:53:10-!- neXyon [~neXyon@85-127-247-45.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 16:54:49-!- Delfinisko [~Delfinisk@ip-85.163.70.45.o2inet.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20140304 17:00:51-!- TooLmaN [~TooLmaN@mail.thomsonplastics.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 17:03:07-!- TooLmaN [~TooLmaN@mail.thomsonplastics.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140304 17:04:30-!- TooLmaN [~TooLmaN@mx1.thomsonplastics.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 17:10:40-!- EliDupree [~quassel@66-189-34-122.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 17:16:46-!- leyyin [~leyyin@89.137.118.41] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 17:18:09-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20140304 17:19:55-!- Yasin` [~Yasin@41.129.37.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20140304 17:30:26-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.219.139.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 17:31:16< AI0867> for delfinsko when he comes back: If you think something might need clarification, you can add po: comments (ask me if you don't know how to do that) 20140304 17:31:35-!- stikonas [~gentoo@cpc18-sgyl27-2-0-cust35.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 17:31:35-!- stikonas [~gentoo@cpc18-sgyl27-2-0-cust35.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Changing host] 20140304 17:31:35-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 17:31:36< AI0867> and it's not a terrible idea to ask here, especially if the campaign is short enough to not be much work 20140304 17:34:33-!- irker336 [~irker@ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 17:34:33< irker336> wesnoth: happygrue wesnoth:master 349253628d73 / / (2 files in 2 dirs): Added missing scenario objective. http://git.io/07suNQ 20140304 17:36:50-!- justinzane [~justinzan@67.21.190.177] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 17:41:51< AI0867> ^ that's not an extra string, as that string already existed in the previous scenario 20140304 17:45:13-!- leanu [c316f1e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.22.241.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20140304 17:45:45-!- Fortescue_ [sid1929@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oiiqcuvagfwarvko] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 17:48:16-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has quit [] 20140304 17:49:21< happygrue> right, I thought it wouldn't hurt to mention such in the description. 20140304 17:49:26-!- leyyin [~leyyin@89.137.118.41] has left #wesnoth-dev ["Leaving"] 20140304 17:50:32< happygrue> It should have been obvious to everyone except the people who it isn't obvious for. Like people who often break the string freeze by accident. 20140304 17:50:42 * happygrue looks sweet and innocent 20140304 17:51:06-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 17:51:18< irker336> wesnoth: happygrue wesnoth:master f0246d3a1969 / / (4 files in 2 dirs): Balance: Increased xp requirement for Rami, Saree http://git.io/hBuTfA 20140304 17:53:07-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Fortescue 20140304 17:53:15-!- Fortescue_ is now known as Fortescue 20140304 17:56:30-!- justinzane [~justinzan@67.21.190.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20140304 18:02:46-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-57.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 18:07:50-!- TooLmaN [~TooLmaN@mx1.thomsonplastics.com] has quit [Quit: Off to save the world!] 20140304 18:11:40-!- viraj [88988e20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.136.152.142.32] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 18:12:16< viraj> Hello 20140304 18:13:58-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 18:18:33-!- viraj [88988e20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.136.152.142.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20140304 18:26:20-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-161-229-57.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20140304 18:26:34-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20140304 18:27:24-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 18:38:25-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20140304 18:47:39-!- justinzane [~justinzan@tiny.justinzane.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 18:48:13-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.135.171.49] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 20140304 18:48:16-!- timotei_ [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 18:55:29-!- timotei__ [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 18:55:59-!- vorobeez [~quassel@85.142.148.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20140304 18:56:07-!- timotei_ [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140304 19:00:35-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20140304 19:02:49-!- fabi_ [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20140304 19:09:42-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 19:25:25-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 19:27:13-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: string+feature freeze active on master | 215 bugs, 349 feature requests, 28 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Alternate logs: http://wesnoth.debian.net | Don't paste on IRC! 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Honest players will help record the statistics of wins (quickly). If one player is dishonest and game picks up both as winners, then a flag would be raised and ask the player(s) to resume their game to decide. 20140304 22:12:43< shadowm> happygrue: That is, won't http://git.io/hBuTfA cause OOS? 20140304 22:17:53-!- thunderstruck [~zaibotren@cpc13-sgyl31-2-0-cust696.18-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20140304 22:21:48-!- trademark_ [~trademark@nsg93-8-88-175-59-164.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20140304 22:28:03-!- Yasin [~Yasin@41.129.89.156] has quit [Quit: Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 20140304 22:31:40-!- heroyi [heroyi@thinks.the.feds.are.investigat.in] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 22:34:58< EliDupree> Huh... underlying_ids are assigned differently in replays than in the game? 20140304 22:35:06< EliDupree> (1.10.7) 20140304 22:35:15-!- justinzane [~justinzan@tiny.justinzane.com] has quit [] 20140304 22:39:03< iceiceice> EliDupree: there's lots of things that seem to happen slightly differently in replays than games 20140304 22:39:19< iceiceice> the underyling ideas are assigne by some static counter that we do not directly control, 20140304 22:39:32< iceiceice> i would thinkt hat it would not be a cause of OOS though, rather a symptom 20140304 22:39:43< EliDupree> hrm... so they could be different on different clients in MP? 20140304 22:39:56< EliDupree> I haven't seen that 20140304 22:40:33< EliDupree> I've been relying on underlying_id behaving as consistently as any other unit attribute, like x or hitpoints. 20140304 22:40:48< EliDupree> The stuff is working in 1.11 though 20140304 22:41:17< EliDupree> (I have a scenario that writes an underlying_id into a synchronize_choice result, which preserves it in the replay) 20140304 22:41:27< mattsc> EliDupree: yes, they are assigned differently, but in the same order between reloads of a game (replay or not). 20140304 22:41:40< EliDupree> (this makes a corrupted replay in 1.10, but not 1.11) 20140304 22:41:54< mattsc> This caused a bug in the order in which units are chosen by filters that was fixed some while ago in the 1.11 series. 20140304 22:41:59< iceiceice> y i am not sure also if the underlying counter is reset when the next scenario of a campaign begins 20140304 22:42:14< iceiceice> or whether the carry over units / units on recall list get new ids or keep the old ones 20140304 22:42:17< EliDupree> mattsc: ah.... hrmmmmm 20140304 22:42:43< mattsc> I can try to find the commit that fixed it, if you want me to 20140304 22:42:54-!- justinzane [~justinzan@tiny.justinzane.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 22:43:13< EliDupree> So that could cause OOS for any situation where you store more than one unit at a time and then do something based on the order? 20140304 22:43:30< EliDupree> I'm hunting some OOS in 1.10, if you can't tell :/ 20140304 22:43:51< mattsc> Yes - that is in fact how I found it. 20140304 22:44:12< mattsc> Through an OOS error it caused in SotBE when units are unstored from the transports in one scenario. 20140304 22:44:37< mattsc> It's one of those bugs that was around for a long time (and the AI0867 fixed it, I think, let me find the commit) 20140304 22:44:47< EliDupree> hmm... I guess in 1.10 I need to stop using underlying_id and also start sorting unit arrays :/ 20140304 22:45:15< mattsc> Probably - it was present from 1.7.x to 1.11.y ... Something like that. :) 20140304 22:45:51< mattsc> EliDupree: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/6e9872ca0bf8da1cb6438bf7337d2ef258a46ee6 20140304 22:46:11-!- gfgtdf_ [~chatzilla@f054062159.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 22:46:56< mattsc> There was quite a bit of discussion on this channel about that beforehand, so if you check out the IRC logs in the week or two before the commit date, it should give you more information. 20140304 22:48:01< EliDupree> Well I thought it would be helpful to see the commit but I was wrong, I don't understand the code enough :P 20140304 22:48:09< EliDupree> ooh, I'll do that 20140304 22:48:10< shadowm> You shouldn't really use underlying_id in WML or Lu. 20140304 22:48:12-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@g224120237.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20140304 22:48:21-!- gfgtdf_ is now known as gfgtdf 20140304 22:48:36< EliDupree> shadowm: if that's the case, then why can wesnoth.get_unit accept an underlying_id? :/ 20140304 22:48:57< shadowm> Because it can. 20140304 22:49:13< EliDupree> If what you say is true and appropriate, shouldn't that be deprecated? 20140304 22:49:29< shadowm> Probably. 20140304 22:49:45< EliDupree> alright... well, good to know, looks like I have some fixes to make in EoHS 20140304 22:50:01< EliDupree> my work cut out for me as usual :) 20140304 22:50:57-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140304 22:51:05< EliDupree> I can't find the date of the diff on that page, only "3 months ago" 20140304 22:53:24-!- {V} [~V@72-69-ftth.on.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140304 22:54:21-!- Aishiko_laptop [~unknown@198.85.71.253] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 22:54:33< mattsc> Hove your cursor over that "3 months ago" 20140304 22:54:36-!- {V} [~V@72-69-ftth.on.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 22:54:39< mattsc> *hover 20140304 22:55:06< EliDupree> Aha 20140304 22:55:12< EliDupree> I usually try that 20140304 22:55:22< EliDupree> What happened here is that I also tried clicking it 20140304 22:55:34< mattsc> I'd prefer just having the date stamp myself, but ... 20140304 22:55:39< EliDupree> Turns out that if you click it, the tooltip never appears no matter how long you leave the mouse there 20140304 22:55:50< mattsc> I see 20140304 22:56:08< EliDupree> Ah well, at least that's settled now :p 20140304 22:56:26-!- justinzane [~justinzan@tiny.justinzane.com] has quit [] 20140304 23:00:42-!- Aishiko_laptop_ [~unknown@198.85.71.18] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 23:01:26-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20140304 23:02:00-!- Aishiko_laptop [~unknown@198.85.71.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20140304 23:02:11-!- Aishiko_laptop_ is now known as Aishiko_laptop 20140304 23:10:45-!- JunJM [83f7e04e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.247.224.78] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20140304 23:13:58-!- LordNasty [~NaSTy@93-43-144-31.ip92.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20140304 23:14:52-!- LordNasty [~NaSTy@93.55.123.202] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 23:16:36-!- werlley [~werlley@187-41-166-97.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 23:17:41< iceiceice> i have a question i probably should have asked a long time ago: 20140304 23:17:50< iceiceice> are animations happening in their own thread? 20140304 23:17:57< iceiceice> or is it done by this "play_slice" function 20140304 23:17:59-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140304 23:18:23< iceiceice> or something else i haven't thought of 20140304 23:20:33-!- kex [~kex@89.205.75.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 23:20:56< Aishiko_laptop> iceiceice, I'd like to know too 20140304 23:22:59< shadowm> All graphics operations take place in the main thread along with most of everything else, I believe. 20140304 23:24:13-!- LordNasty [~NaSTy@93.55.123.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20140304 23:24:28-!- LordNasty [~NaSTy@93-43-144-31.ip92.fastwebnet.it] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 23:24:34< shadowm> IIRC the only explicit threading in use is for network operations in multiplayer. SDL and OpenMP support (when building with -fopenmp) may create additional threads on their own for their own code. 20140304 23:26:43< iceiceice> i see thx 20140304 23:38:39-!- ancestral [~ancestral@63.92.240.233] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 23:39:05-!- justinzane [~justinzan@67.21.190.177] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 23:44:59-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@f049205226.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140304 23:46:52-!- fabi [~fabi@88-134-21-163-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 23:46:52-!- fabi [~fabi@88-134-21-163-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Changing host] 20140304 23:46:52-!- fabi [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 23:53:09-!- justinzane [~justinzan@67.21.190.177] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20140304 23:55:09-!- justinzane [~justinzan@67.21.190.177] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20140304 23:59:41-!- mattsc [~mattsc@fw.hia.nrc.ca] has quit [Quit: Ciao] --- Log closed Wed Mar 05 00:00:21 2014