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20140303 02:54:22< battlestar> Hello
20140303 02:56:12< battlestar> My vision is failing me... am I a boy or a girl?
20140303 03:02:42< fabi_> Battlestars are girls. Like all ships have female names.
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20140303 03:15:01< celticminstrel> As if you need vision for that.
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20140303 14:47:39< dipseydoodle> Hello, I have a campaign I've written up. Here's the file for the first scenario, when it loads, after sellecting the difficulty, it says Error (stuff here) Unknown Scenario 
20140303 14:47:43< dipseydoodle> [scenario] 	id=scenario_01 	name=_"A New Leader" 	map_data="{~add-ons/Rise_of_the_Orcs/maps/map_01}" 	snapshot=no  	turns=60 	victory_when_enemies_defeated=no  	{DAWN} 	{MORNING} 	{AFTERNOON} 	{DUSK} 	{FIRST_WATCH} 	{SECOND_WATCH}   [side] 	##:: Side Info 	side=2 	controller=human 	team_name=2 	#wmllint local spelling foo 	user_team_name= _ "Alall"  	##:: Leader Info  	type=Orcish Assassin 	id=Alall 	name=_"Alall" 	gender=male 
20140303 14:47:50< dipseydoodle> oops
20140303 14:47:56< zookeeper> pastebin!
20140303 14:48:07< dipseydoodle> http://pastebin.com/E59sMpJP
20140303 14:48:09< dipseydoodle> I know
20140303 14:48:10< dipseydoodle> lol
20140303 14:48:20< dipseydoodle> I must have copied the wrong thing lol
20140303 14:48:24< zookeeper> GOLD anc INCOME expect 3 arguments
20140303 14:48:36< dipseydoodle> Oh
20140303 14:48:52< dipseydoodle> But I have only one difficulty hmm
20140303 14:49:41< dipseydoodle> lets see if that worked
20140303 14:50:14< zookeeper> the "(stuff here)" part tends to tell you what's wrong, or at least give a good indication
20140303 14:50:24< dipseydoodle> 20140303 09:49:58 error general: Unknown scenario: 'scenario_01'
20140303 14:51:12< zookeeper> either you never include the scenario file, or there is an error in it which causes the scenario to not be loaded which leads to it being unknown
20140303 14:51:32< zookeeper> in case of the latter, follow the error message list
20140303 14:51:42< dipseydoodle> ok
20140303 14:51:50< zookeeper> the last item(s?) will point to something concrete
20140303 14:52:40< dipseydoodle> 0140303 09:51:46 warning config: add-on 'Rise_of_the_Orcs' has no _info.cfg; cannot read version info 20140303 09:51:57 error general: Unknown scenario: 'scenario_01'
20140303 14:52:44< dipseydoodle> ahh
20140303 14:52:58< dipseydoodle> all I have is the one I posted concerning my scenario
20140303 14:53:10< dipseydoodle> I wander if the info.cfg hass anything to do with it
20140303 14:53:16< zookeeper> no, it shouldn't
20140303 14:54:14< dipseydoodle> ok
20140303 14:54:28< dipseydoodle> heres the _main.cfg http://pastebin.com/fpdMH3dW
20140303 14:54:39< zookeeper> uh...
20140303 14:54:47< dipseydoodle> Yes?
20140303 14:54:47< zookeeper> of course it's an unknown scenario
20140303 14:54:52< dipseydoodle> Oh?
20140303 14:54:53< zookeeper> you never include the scenario file
20140303 14:55:30< dipseydoodle> Forgive me lord zookeper. I've not codded wml in a long while :p what do you mean? 
20140303 14:55:58< dipseydoodle> Do I need a {path} type thing there
20140303 14:56:27< zookeeper> #ifdef RISE_OF_THE_ORCS \n {~add-ons/Rise_of_the_Orcs/scenarios} \n #endif
20140303 14:56:41< zookeeper> look familiar? :>
20140303 14:56:55< dipseydoodle> Ok
20140303 14:57:59< dipseydoodle> Wasn't sure about that
20140303 14:57:59< dipseydoodle> thanks
20140303 14:58:09< zookeeper> anyway, difficulty-related macros like GOLD etc assume the usual EASY,NORMAL,HARD difficulty symbols, so in your case they don't work because the symbol is always CHALLENGING.
20140303 14:58:27< dipseydoodle> Oh
20140303 14:58:40< dipseydoodle> So I need two other difficulties then?
20140303 14:58:56< zookeeper> no, just use any of those three instead of CHALLENGING
20140303 14:59:10< dipseydoodle> ok
20140303 14:59:16< dipseydoodle> brb
20140303 14:59:42< zookeeper> or just don't use the macros to begin with, they don't _do_ anything except allow gold= and income= etc have different values per difficulty.
20140303 15:02:42< dipseydoodle> Ok
20140303 15:07:06< dipseydoodle> So you mean I should just remove the {GOLD} {INCOME} macros or just the difficulty part
20140303 15:07:09< dipseydoodle> ?
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20140303 15:07:29< zookeeper> i said that if you're only going to have one difficulty level, there is no reason to use those macros in the first place.
20140303 15:07:36< dipseydoodle> ok
20140303 15:09:55< dipseydoodle> I don't know, it's still saying unknown scenario
20140303 15:11:07< dipseydoodle> Hold on, first_scenario=  goes by the id right, not the name, or am I mistaken?
20140303 15:11:18< zookeeper> by the id
20140303 15:11:52< zookeeper> maybe your scenario file doesn't end in .cfg. maybe there's some other error leading to the unknown scenario error that you're not mentioning.
20140303 15:14:53< dipseydoodle> Hmm
20140303 15:15:49< dipseydoodle> http://pastebin.com/mFZ3YVk7
20140303 15:15:57< dipseydoodle> That's my terminal
20140303 15:16:41< zookeeper> well, verify whether it's trying to read the scenario file at all
20140303 15:18:39< zookeeper> because there's no other errors, i can only conclude that there must be something wrong with your file structure
20140303 15:18:55< zookeeper> ...or you failed to add the scenarios include correctly
20140303 15:19:32< zookeeper> i guess the latter is more likely
20140303 15:19:43< dipseydoodle> The scenarios include.
20140303 15:20:22< dipseydoodle> Let me check, and thanks for your assistance by the way
20140303 15:22:56< dipseydoodle> AHHH!
20140303 15:24:52< zookeeper> so, what was it?
20140303 15:24:57< dipseydoodle> Let's I don't know
20140303 15:25:06< dipseydoodle> I changed the id name, that didn't work
20140303 15:25:20< dipseydoodle> What exactly do you mean by the include
20140303 15:25:34< zookeeper> i mean the include that every other UMC campaign has in its _main.cfg
20140303 15:25:51< dipseydoodle> One second
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20140303 15:33:04< dipseydoodle> YEEES
20140303 15:33:07< dipseydoodle> Thank you
20140303 15:33:20< dipseydoodle> it was the lack of [binary_path]
20140303 15:33:32< zookeeper> no
20140303 15:33:48< dipseydoodle> Well, it's reading the scenario
20140303 15:33:51< dipseydoodle> Hmm
20140303 15:33:52< zookeeper> sorry, but it wasn't :p
20140303 15:34:01< zookeeper> you changed something else too
20140303 15:34:01< dipseydoodle> Ok, what was it ?
20140303 15:34:04< dipseydoodle> ok
20140303 15:34:13< dipseydoodle> Not sure what that was.
20140303 15:34:17< dipseydoodle> lo
20140303 15:36:59< dipseydoodle> Anyway it loaded
20140303 15:37:13< dipseydoodle> but I did get a bug once it began
20140303 15:37:49< dipseydoodle> Condition 'enemy_info' failed at src/ai/default/ai.cpp:416 in function 'get_combat_score_vs'
20140303 15:38:47< zookeeper> your sides are in the wrong order
20140303 15:39:15< zookeeper> i think at least at some point you had to have them ordered for some reason, so that could be it
20140303 15:40:48< dipseydoodle> ok
20140303 15:43:22< dipseydoodle> Bug is gone and works great now, thanks
20140303 15:43:41< dipseydoodle> Now it's onto the easy stuff like event etc...
20140303 15:43:43< dipseydoodle> fun!
20140303 15:43:52< dipseydoodle> Oh and sorry to bother you
20140303 15:44:18< zookeeper> i'll live
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20140303 16:58:37< Delfinisko> something tells me, that attacking grunts with spearmen during night is not the best idea :)
20140303 16:59:09< zookeeper> depends.
20140303 16:59:16< zookeeper> i can think of many situations where it'd be a great idea
20140303 16:59:19< Soliton> with a mage of light and a general on their side that seems fine.
20140303 16:59:35< zookeeper> and the grunt at low enough hp that you can take it out with the ranged attack
20140303 16:59:39< zookeeper> no problem
20140303 17:20:45< Delfinisko> yep, i agree... but still :)
20140303 17:20:45< Delfinisko> btw by this i also mean, that in campaign... orcs are the bad guys... a lot :D almost everywhere :)
20140303 17:30:46< Delfinisko> Db0 made some time ago a campaign for saurians, it was pretty interesting :)
20140303 17:47:23< Delfinisko> is it possible, to add a new ability to one unit without creating a new file?
20140303 17:47:49< Delfinisko> for example, to get magic attack for elvish champion (70 perc chance to hit)
20140303 17:55:21< zookeeper> depends on the context, but usually yes
20140303 17:57:11< Delfinisko> something like "you, Joe, go kill some orcs. You have THE BEST training, so it might be interesting"
20140303 18:07:54< Delfinisko> absolut offtopic, but... what do u think about happy ends?
20140303 18:08:27< Delfinisko> for me, it is nice that the bad guys are driven back, but... maybe there are too much campaign with such an ending
20140303 18:08:52< Delfinisko> what ends bad? descent into darkness, and... in fact i dont know :)
20140303 18:10:17< zookeeper> scepter of fire, liberty
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20140303 22:19:46< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) The second beta for Wesnoth 1.12, development version 1.11.11, is now out! Players on 1.11.10 are advised to upgrade. http://r.wesnoth.org/t40116 [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/440612523960967169 ]
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20140303 22:21:53-!- shadowm changed the topic of #wesnoth to: Wesnoth User Channel | http://www.wesnoth.org/ | Latest stable version: 1.10.7 | Latest development version: 1.11.11 (1.12 beta 2) | Check the upness of Wesnoth servers on http://status.wesnoth.org | Public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com
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20140303 23:23:31< celticminstrel> Oh wow, 1.12 finally approaches.
20140303 23:23:39< celticminstrel> I suppose I should get to updating my add-ons soon.
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