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20140307 00:20:58< shadowm> battlestar: This VARIABLE_CONDITIONAL macro you are using in the REPEAT block includes a [variable] tag.
20140307 00:21:23< shadowm> And REPEAT isn't designed to take conditions in the loop block.
20140307 00:21:58< shadowm> It seems to me like you really meant to use VARIABLE_OP instead of VARIABLE_CONDITIONAL, though.
20140307 00:42:54< battlestar> oh... right
20140307 00:45:45< battlestar> shadowm: thanks! I'll retest the code with that fixed
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20140307 02:22:08< battlestar> is there wml documentation on how to do things like this value="$($turn_number % 6)"
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20140307 02:25:26< battlestar> that's a modulo sign right? (%)
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20140307 09:41:09< Soliton> battlestar: yes, see http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SyntaxWML#Special_Attribute_Values
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20140307 20:00:25< claymore_> any quick way to disable the bell in the lobby without disabling all frontend sounds?
20140307 20:01:38< claymore_> it's pretty annoying, why is it on by default?
20140307 20:04:25< happygrue> claymore_: lobby sounds yes/no is in advanced preferences
20140307 20:08:12< claymore_> happygrue: ok, thanks... don't know how I missed it
20140307 20:09:13< claymore_> although that seems to disable music too
20140307 20:10:34< nemo> hi claymore_ 
20140307 20:10:39< claymore_> hey nemo :)
20140307 20:10:44< claymore_> small world, eh
20140307 20:10:46< nemo> :)
20140307 20:10:53< nemo> Gambit: so. page got killed
20140307 20:10:58< nemo> I updated our homepage
20140307 20:11:48< nemo> claymore_: For HW, I think some people don't realise folks join their rooms, 'cause they have frontend on mute.  Since they don't realise they can just stop the music w/o halting the notification sounds
20140307 20:16:49< claymore_> nemo: yep
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20140307 21:04:37< dipseydoodle> Sup
20140307 21:06:23< dipseydoodle> Perhaps somebody can help me decide... I have a scenario I'm writing, and a magic user (the leader) must kill another leader to end the scenario, should I go about it by giving him a powerfull weapon at a certain turn, give him an ability like a curse that kills the leader after 3 turns, 
20140307 21:06:43< dipseydoodle> or make him wait on a hex and then give him a menu button he can click to kill him
20140307 21:08:44< lipkab> I'd simply make it an objective.
20140307 21:08:51< dipseydoodle> Ok
20140307 21:08:52< dipseydoodle> well
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20140307 21:09:38< dipseydoodle> It's a really hard scenario with one side recruiting all level 2s and your leader not recruiting till turn 3 or 4 depending on your speed
20140307 21:09:50< dipseydoodle> also, he is a unit that dosen't get his power until later on
20140307 21:10:01< dipseydoodle> so he has no magic to begin with
20140307 21:12:22< lipkab> Hm. Well, if the player can't possibly kill that leader, I don't see much point in cheating to enable him to do so.
20140307 21:12:50< lipkab> Just make a regular objective (survive for X turns, etc), then kill the enemy in a sripted event.
20140307 21:12:59< lipkab> *scripted
20140307 21:13:20< dipseydoodle> Ooh that sounds good
20140307 21:13:29< dipseydoodle> Ok
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20140307 21:19:25< claymore_> just playing an online game for the third time... opponent says: "-25 +35, no fun" and leaves... any idea what he could be referring to?
20140307 21:20:05< zookeeper> probably the real vs estimated damage
20140307 21:20:24< zookeeper> i'd guess he had dealt -25% estimated damage while you were at +35%
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20140307 21:20:55< claymore_> hmm, okay
20140307 21:21:03< claymore_> are these figures displayed somewhere?
20140307 21:21:15< zookeeper> you can see the stats from menu -> statistics
20140307 21:21:38< claymore_> ah, ok... thanks
20140307 21:21:45< zookeeper> and i shall correct my guess; he was likely referring to his own damage dealt/received
20140307 21:21:55 * zookeeper had already forgotten what the stats display in the first place
20140307 21:22:15< claymore_> ok :)
20140307 21:22:23< zookeeper> so, combat's random, sometimes you get really bad luck, and quite a lot of people find that annoying, so... :p
20140307 21:23:06< claymore_> yeah, I can understand
20140307 21:27:19< nemo> zookeeper: there was this bug in Wesnoth once upon a time that I compulsively abused, where you could save during combat :)
20140307 21:27:31< nemo> zookeeper: and when you loaded, the combat had been skipped
20140307 21:27:50< nemo> I think I reported it, and was fixed, 'cause it kinda saved me from myself
20140307 21:28:05< nemo> I couldn't help abusing it, and completely ruining the fun for me, by getting into situations where I had to do it over and over
20140307 21:28:29< nemo> anyway, the "bad luck" thing made me think of it, 'cause ideally you try not to play so recklessly that that becomes a significant factor
20140307 21:32:51< dipseydoodle> Just so I know
20140307 21:33:02< dipseydoodle> How do I trigger a defeate via leader killed
20140307 21:33:09< dipseydoodle> I tried to filter
20140307 21:33:14< dipseydoodle> but it didn't work
20140307 21:36:06< zookeeper> show the code
20140307 21:40:16< nemo> BTW, anyone notice the free version of Wesnoth on Android is essentially unusable?
20140307 21:40:24< nemo> The time window is so short that I can barely finish a turn
20140307 21:40:57< zookeeper> what time window?
20140307 21:42:32< nemo> zookeeper: huh. there's a version on the app store, but unless you pay, it kills the app every, oh, 10m
20140307 21:42:37< nemo> regardless of what the app is doing
20140307 21:42:46< nemo> so, that includes starting it, finding and opening a save, etc
20140307 21:43:00< nemo> I gave it a shot once, but due to the short window, was just like, eh, screwit
20140307 21:43:13< nemo> played I think 2 whole turns of the merfolk campaign
20140307 21:43:51< zookeeper> https://play.google.com/store/search?q=wesnoth&c=apps
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20140307 21:44:05< nemo> hm
20140307 21:44:14< nemo> Oo
20140307 21:44:15< nemo> yeesh
20140307 21:44:25< nemo> zookeeper: I went w/ top free hit for wesnoth
20140307 21:44:28< nemo> didn't poke around too much
20140307 21:44:33< nemo> didn't realise it was so relentlessly cloned
20140307 21:44:46< nemo> I'm guessing it is the Alessandro Pira one
20140307 21:44:55< nemo> hm
20140307 21:44:57 * nemo checks
20140307 21:45:06< zookeeper> i have no idea which one is the "more official" unofficial port... if either.
20140307 21:45:23< nemo> Yep. "Alessandro Pira"
20140307 21:45:29< nemo> anyway, was just mentioning it was basically unplayable
20140307 21:45:35< nemo> maybe I'll check out the other one sometime
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20140307 21:45:54< nemo> zookeeper: I gave up and installed it in Linux on the phone instead :)
20140307 21:45:58< zookeeper> yeah, sounds like a pretty obnoxious limitation considering how slow the game is WRT startup, loading etc
20140307 21:46:09< nemo> zookeeper: and actually playing a turn with a lot of units
20140307 21:46:15< nemo> not to mention on a small screen w/ a touch interface
20140307 21:46:19< zookeeper> indeed
20140307 21:46:28< nemo> and it just kills it. so you're like halfway through turn and then
20140307 21:46:30< nemo> !@$!$!@$%!$%@%
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