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20140410 09:39:05< Dunno> Hi! I can't seem to access http://replays.wesnoth.org/1.10/
20140410 09:39:07< Dunno> anyone else?
20140410 09:39:18< Dunno> replays.wesnoth.org connects just fine
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20140410 09:39:58< Dunno> sry, misclick
20140410 09:40:28< Dunno> And sorry about that question, the page just loaded. It just took forever
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20140410 11:07:15< Dunno> fascinating... I'm running some analysis on replays, mostly to find on which maps and how often are 4-player games played, but while I'm at it I also count the number of games from each day
20140410 11:07:35< Dunno> you can see every holiday and weekend as a spike in their count
20140410 11:07:59< Dunno> the day before easter in 2012 there were almost 1500 games played
20140410 11:08:10< Dunno> while on average weekday there are 800-900 games played
20140410 11:08:49< Dunno> I wonder how those number will change as the script proceeds to more recent dates (it will take a while)
20140410 11:09:36< Dunno> it's already working on summer of 2012, and the average now equals around 1100
20140410 11:10:13< Dunno> I'll post full results somewhere, it's an interesting read
20140410 11:13:54< Dunno> 2 first weeks of September, 2012 had the highest traffic so far
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20140410 14:01:24< adityarajbhatt> As far as I can tell, wesnoth does not differentiate between coop and multiplayer and puts anything with more than 1 player into "Multiplayer" or "MP". Am I correct?
20140410 14:02:23-!- adityarajbhatt is now known as arb
20140410 14:03:04< arb> I am a new player, and have only played some singleplayer campaigns by now. Want to start playing with friends, but in co-op, meaning we follow a story and compete against the AI, not one another. So I found lack of a co-op category confusing.
20140410 14:07:23< Soliton> where would you expect such a category?
20140410 14:08:07< Soliton> multiplayer is categorized as opposed to single player. co-op plays no role in that categorization.
20140410 14:11:21< arb> Soliton: No, I meant co-op generally means you and friends against the AI (a subset of MP) whereas MP can mean anything from teamvsteam, pvp, pvai. 
20140410 14:12:21< arb> Soliton: Anyway, could you (or anyone) suggest a good starting campaign to introduce friends to Wesnoth. I have got hooked to the game, but my friends are quite skeptical of it in general. So I want something non-competitive (so you and friends against ai also known as _co-op_) to start with.
20140410 14:12:21< Soliton> right, that's why "differentiate between coop and multiplayer" makes no sense to me.
20140410 14:13:09< Soliton> either way, i'm not aware that wesnoth differentiates between co-op and vs or such anywhere.
20140410 14:13:12< arb> Soliton: Why does it not make sense? I just told you the two things are different in the sense that co-op is a multiplayer subset. So not _different_ as such, but should there not be something like other subcategories, like ffa, co-op, teamvteam and all
20140410 14:13:33< arb> It would be quite helpful in my opinion, if it did.
20140410 14:14:10< Soliton> i'm afraid you can just go by add-on descriptions.
20140410 14:14:56< Soliton> you're on 1.10?
20140410 14:15:04< arb> Uh yes, and I have trunk too.
20140410 14:15:26< arb> So if I go by descriptions, that is not very helpful, since there are so _many_ campaigns.
20140410 14:15:38< Soliton> it's master now that we're using git. ;-)
20140410 14:15:42< arb> Just saying it could be made better.
20140410 14:15:45< arb> Oh okay yes
20140410 14:15:55< Soliton> sure, i'm not disagreeing.
20140410 14:17:06< Soliton> "Save the Village" might be nice.
20140410 14:17:26< Soliton> generally stuff from Bob_The_Mighty is good.
20140410 14:17:45< Soliton> and that one is co-op IIRC.
20140410 14:18:34< Soliton> "The Fall Of Trent" is another one.
20140410 14:19:30< Soliton> "Labyrinth Of Champions" and "Into The Underworld" are two more.
20140410 14:23:29< Soliton> "Brotherhood of Light" is yet another one.
20140410 14:23:59< Soliton> then all the "MP campaign" declared add-ons should be co-op or at least most of them.
20140410 14:24:36< Soliton> the earlier mentioned ones are all single scenarios.
20140410 14:25:55< arb> Soliton: Thanks man. Huge help.
20140410 14:25:58< Soliton> you could probably ask on the forums to get a more uptodate answer since i haven't played any of the above for years.
20140410 14:26:09< Soliton> no problem.
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20140410 18:57:18< Oebele> hi
20140410 18:59:07< Oebele> I'd like to use the wesnoth sprites as placeholder graphics for my game, but where can I find them?
20140410 19:00:26< thunderstruck> Oebele: try https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth
20140410 19:00:47< Oebele> isn't it just easily found in my install (linux)
20140410 19:01:52< thunderstruck> Then maybe it's /usr/share/games/wesnoth/.
20140410 19:01:58< thunderstruck> it's under*
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20140410 19:04:09< Oebele> I can find many images, but not the units :/
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20140410 19:05:24< c74d> Are you looking in `data/core/images`?
20140410 19:05:27< Rhonda> Oebele: data/core/images
20140410 19:05:36< Rhonda> damn, c74d was faster :)
20140410 19:05:36< wesbot> Rhonda: Sometimes we are fast
20140410 19:05:37< c74d> Or just `images` or `data/images`?
20140410 19:05:50< Oebele> I was looking in images
20140410 19:06:00< happygrue> Oebele: data/core/
20140410 19:06:10< Rhonda> wesbot: ssh
20140410 19:06:16< happygrue> try data/core/images/units
20140410 19:06:21< Oebele> thank you very much people :)
20140410 19:06:41< happygrue> ah, I am slow
20140410 19:06:52< Oebele> that's many people responding at once ^^
20140410 19:07:20< Oebele> so... many... IMAGES!!!
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20140410 19:18:42< Oebele> do heroes always use standard models?
20140410 19:19:22< shadowm> We use sprites, not models.
20140410 19:19:44< Oebele> sorry :P
20140410 19:19:49< Oebele> I meant that :P
20140410 19:19:59< Oebele> I am also using sprites so that's good
20140410 19:20:18< Oebele> and I already found an answer to my question - seems some have dedicated sprites (konrad and the like)
20140410 19:20:27< shadowm> People may use core units for their campaign heroes, if that's what you mean, but nothing stops them from making their own if they see fit.
20140410 19:20:43< shadowm> HttT uses a custom unit, for example, but NR does not.
20140410 19:20:49< Oebele> yeah that's true
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20140410 19:45:50< Necrosporus> That's kind of boring if company uses only core units, isn't it?
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20140410 19:49:11< shadowm> No.
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20140410 20:17:23< celticminstrel> I used a core unit for the hero.
20140410 20:17:42< celticminstrel> There were other custom units though.
20140410 20:19:31< zookeeper> yeah but you weren't a company!
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