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20140415 04:53:23-!- ArneBab [~quassel@212.255.122.64] has joined #wesnoth 20140415 04:56:52-!- iwaim [~iwaim@2001:2c0:40e:2002:0:4:14:80] has joined #wesnoth 20140415 05:02:39-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth 20140415 05:20:39-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20140415 05:39:54-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20140415 05:42:26-!- Haldrik [~haldrik@unaffiliated/haldrik] has joined #wesnoth 20140415 06:17:44-!- JackBauer24 [~JackBauer@89-79-180-156.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20140415 06:20:30-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20140415 06:29:25-!- panda__ [~IMO@AMontsouris-653-1-114-183.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth 20140415 06:40:48-!- ErSidward [~sidward@81.0.168.125.sta.wbroadband.net.au] has joined #wesnoth 20140415 06:49:46-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20140415 07:16:42< Rhonda> No 20140415 07:17:06< Rhonda> curing poison requires time 20140415 07:17:18< Rhonda> deego: ^^ 20140415 07:22:34< deego> Rhonda: thanks. 20140415 07:23:43-!- deego [deego@gateway/shell/ww7.be/x-fnquwbqybctmrpib] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20140415 07:26:26-!- deego [deego@gateway/shell/ww7.be/x-goxncjpouegtvgxx] has joined #wesnoth 20140415 07:28:39< deego> Rhonda: thanks. 20140415 07:31:19< Rhonda> deego: you're welcome. 20140415 07:31:21< Rhonda> deego: you're welcome. 20140415 07:32:45< deego> :D 20140415 07:34:00< deego> Playing Orcish incursion (elves) scenario 2. Love the hints at the beginning. The game of waiting across the river worked great. But, what if the AI had played the same game? 20140415 07:34:09< deego> s/playing/just done playing 20140415 07:34:29< deego> .. and I, therefore, ran out of turns..? 20140415 07:55:19< zookeeper> then the scenario designer would have messed up. if they hint at waiting being a good idea, then the AI of course needs to behave accordingly. 20140415 07:55:55< zookeeper> how reckless the AI is depends on the scenario's AI settings 20140415 07:56:05< tdk27> the general way to avoid that is asymmetric goals: the AI's goal means that just waiting is never a winning strategy for it 20140415 08:11:41-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20140415 08:13:41-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20140415 08:16:29-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has joined #wesnoth 20140415 08:18:42< zookeeper> so what are some good add-ons to rip off spell ideas from? 20140415 08:20:33< zookeeper> (aside from era of high magic, i suppose) 20140415 08:30:45-!- bagzie [~bag@85-76-39-69-nat.elisa-mobile.fi] has joined #wesnoth 20140415 08:35:32< deego> Ah. Indeed, in many scenarios, I can just wait at the edge of trees, or mountains, or river.. Wesnoth's AI is really smart, in general, but an smarter AI, with a goal of preventing my win, would not come battle me at my strong ground. 20140415 08:36:07< deego> Well, otoh, this is my beginner observation. I could be proven wrong soon. :) 20140415 08:36:44< deego> beginner observation and enthusiasm haha 20140415 08:37:52< deego> All that aside, what a nice introduction to tactics this whole series is (orcish incursion)! 20140415 08:51:00< zookeeper> yeah the AI is basically never set up to try to prevent your win the way a human player might 20140415 08:51:11< zookeeper> it'd often be the best strategy to hole up in a corner and wait for turns to run out, after all 20140415 08:52:25< zookeeper> and while it might be nice for it to be smarter in some scenarios and be more careful, even that'd need to be done selectively since it wouldn't be much fun if the AI was really defensive most of the time 20140415 09:01:45-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20140415 09:06:43-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20140415 09:33:30-!- Guest72880 [~8680@2002:4404:712c:0:245e:c5e2:bbfa:e328] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 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I downloaded the add-on "era of magic" via the add-ons facility. Now, how do I play it? Nothing new shows up in the 'campaigns' tab. 20140415 22:31:29< elias> it's an "era", i.e. it will show up if you make a multiplayer game 20140415 22:33:05< deego> elias: ah, yes, I'd just seen it. Thanks. :) 20140415 22:33:27< deego> Ah. 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