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20140502 01:41:25< irker313> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:1.12 2a32970c09fb / src/mouse_events.cpp: add set_action_bonus_count when attacking http://git.io/CkPsOA
20140502 01:41:25< irker313> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:1.12 fbcfd87326a0 / src/ (replay.cpp replay.hpp): more robust replay.cpp functions http://git.io/WTHuaQ
20140502 01:41:26< irker313> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:1.12 59d2bcd70b74 / src/ (replay.cpp replay.hpp): tidyup replay.cpp http://git.io/B8vrLw
20140502 01:41:27< irker313> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:1.12 186568453883 / src/actions/move.cpp: more robust replaying of moves http://git.io/jaUJOg
20140502 01:41:28< irker313> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:1.12 d1b3cd13e851 / src/ (actions/undo.cpp actions/undo.hpp replay.cpp synced_commands.cpp): fix replay of delayed shroud updates (21986) http://git.io/ouAFDw
20140502 01:41:29< irker313> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:1.12 555ac3396da5 / src/ (play_controller.cpp playmp_controller.cpp): fix linger mode in mp (21985) http://git.io/Bmm5MQ
20140502 01:41:31< irker313> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:1.12 3b7d6bfc6149 / src/actions/undo.cpp: save replaydata of the undostack http://git.io/Tsm63g
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20140502 09:49:56< Coffee_irc> why do people keep introducing new bugs? :P
20140502 09:50:23< Coffee_irc> in the tutorial Delfador moves and there are now 2 delfadors
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20140502 10:57:09-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: string+feature freeze active on 1.12 | 0 bugs, 0 feature requests, 0 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Alternate logs: http://wesnoth.debian.net | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20140502 12:26:11< irker914> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth:master 0e8c135c149a / src/mouse_handler_base.cpp: Fix strict compilation http://git.io/7hwOGQ
20140502 12:26:58< AI0867> Coffee_irc: ^
20140502 12:28:27< irker914> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth:1.12 ffa75a6af9f2 / src/mouse_handler_base.cpp: Fix strict compilation http://git.io/Kzr7og
20140502 12:36:13< loonycyborg> I'm also getting -Wsign-compare warnings from display.cpp
20140502 12:37:51< AI0867> on master?
20140502 12:38:03< loonycyborg> yes
20140502 12:38:48< AI0867> where?
20140502 12:38:53< AI0867> I'm not getting them
20140502 12:39:02< AI0867> and neither is travis
20140502 12:39:54< loonycyborg> sec
20140502 12:41:52< loonycyborg> AI0867: https://gist.github.com/loonycyborg/8d4ac449d24bc8c072f4
20140502 12:47:26< AI0867> is this a new warning?
20140502 12:47:43< loonycyborg> I don't think so
20140502 12:47:54< loonycyborg> but perhaps newer versions of gcc enable it by default
20140502 12:48:13< loonycyborg> g++ (Gentoo 4.8.2 p1.3r1, pie-0.5.8r1) 4.8.2
20140502 12:49:00< AI0867> because it doesn't seem to have changed in the past few months
20140502 12:50:25< AI0867> even more fun: SDL_rect's w and h members are Uint16 on SDL 1.2, and int on SDL 2.0
20140502 12:50:53< loonycyborg> ah yesss
20140502 12:50:57< loonycyborg> I'm using sdl2 still
20140502 12:51:29< AI0867> SDL2 isn't quite supported just yet
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20140502 12:54:12< Necrosporus> I tried to use [terrain] to modify terrain but it placed unremovable shroud instead of what I wanted, so I has to use [terrain_mask] . What is the difference between this two? I simply wanted to make a unit create keep after an event
20140502 12:55:02< Necrosporus> currently it works with [terrain_mask] as I wanted, but I do not think I understand what was I doing
20140502 12:55:20< AI0867> can you show me your WML?
20140502 12:55:41< loonycyborg> why sdl2's rect has int in dimensions anyway? Does it make sense for them to be negative?
20140502 12:55:48< Necrosporus> one which is working or with [terrain]?
20140502 12:55:57< AI0867> Necrosporus: the broken one
20140502 12:56:17< Necrosporus> I'm not sure, I have saved it, let me see
20140502 12:56:36< AI0867> loonycyborg: preventing unsigned/signed issues? It's going to be a lot bigger than it used to be on most platforms anyway
20140502 12:57:52< AI0867> iceiceice: could you rebase your PRs onto a version of master that is not broken?
20140502 12:57:59< Necrosporus> http://pastebin.com/08Y0QETj
20140502 12:58:37< AI0867> Necrosporus: what would you expect that to do?
20140502 12:58:57< AI0867> you're using a [terrain] tag as if it's a [terrain_mask] tag
20140502 12:59:06< AI0867> [terrain] affects a single hex
20140502 12:59:14< Necrosporus> I think I didn't understand how to use it
20140502 13:00:00< Necrosporus> So [terrain] won't work here, unless I want to place 12 tag pairs?
20140502 13:00:36< AI0867> http://sourceforge.net/p/wesnoth-umc-dev/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/The_Dark_Hordes/scenarios/09_Underground_River.cfg ← example
20140502 13:02:26< Necrosporus> http://pastebin.com/iAY7Mkme this is a working variant
20140502 13:02:57< Necrosporus> But I don't quite understand how it works... 
20140502 13:03:12< AI0867> what about it do you not understand?
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20140502 13:03:13< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth#2517 (1.12 - ffa75a6 : Alexander van Gessel): The build was fixed.
20140502 13:03:13< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/24262449
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20140502 13:03:46< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth#2516 (master - 0e8c135 : Alexander van Gessel): The build was fixed.
20140502 13:03:46< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/24262238
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20140502 13:06:38< Necrosporus> AI0867, first of all, why using _f as filler, second, why do I need border=1 and the header at all (if I set border=0 or don't set it at all, modification doesn't work)
20140502 13:07:40< Necrosporus> error general: An error due to possibly invalid WML occurred The error message is : 'border_size' should be '1' when 'usage = map'
20140502 13:08:01< Necrosporus> not sure if I should use usage=map or usage=something_else
20140502 13:08:14< Necrosporus> though this way it works, so maybe it's fine as it is
20140502 13:09:02< AI0867> Necrosporus: that's an artifact of the map format. It's essentially trying to merge two maps together
20140502 13:09:05< AI0867> "Fog ('_f') and Shroud ('_s') are used like alpha in an image; i.e. they cause the previous terrain to be used."
20140502 13:09:36< AI0867> I think someone proposed getting rid of the usage and border things, but we haven't yet
20140502 13:12:36< AI0867> and you can change border_size to 0 if you also set usage to mask
20140502 13:12:45< irker914> wesnoth: anatoly techtonik wesnoth:master e780569f8230 / SConstruct: scons: Format output for readability http://git.io/AAFQPQ
20140502 13:12:47< irker914> wesnoth: anatoly techtonik wesnoth:master 1ee1b16499a9 / SConstruct: scons: Replace ERROR: prefix with WARN: http://git.io/eSr2nQ
20140502 13:12:49< irker914> wesnoth: Sergey Popov wesnoth:master a6479c5b4d6e / SConstruct: Merge pull request #161 from techtonik/master http://git.io/JX0lTA
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20140502 13:14:42< Necrosporus> AI0867, I understand that, but it means the area would be shrouded, right?
20140502 13:15:12< Necrosporus> I just wonder if there's some symbol without any additional meaning beside "leave what it was as it is"
20140502 13:18:34< AI0867> Necrosporus: no, 'alpha' means transparent
20140502 13:18:58< AI0867> so when you place the mask over the map, the map "shines through"
20140502 13:19:15< Necrosporus> Then why is it _s or _f ?
20140502 13:19:16< AI0867> and there doesn't appear to be
20140502 13:19:29< AI0867> because they have special meanings already? I don't know
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20140502 13:21:07< Necrosporus> So it's just some inconsistency left for historical reason... I guess I now understand it better. But other question, is there any practical difference between usage=map and usage=mask ?
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20140502 13:24:42< AI0867> Necrosporus: I believe maps refuse to load with anything other than map and 1, while masks ignore it entirely
20140502 13:25:05< AI0867> (though the map loading code will still barf at anything other than map/1 and mask/0)
20140502 13:48:16< irker914> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 637efb7af5db / src/game.cpp: fix whitespace http://git.io/ty_-7g
20140502 13:48:18< irker914> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 42d4cbe9c8e4 / src/ (5 files): add command line option --unit, -u, to run scenario as a unit test http://git.io/_iyduw
20140502 13:48:20< irker914> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master bbbfc023f30d / src/game_controller.cpp: make unit tests run headlessly http://git.io/bSnAFw
20140502 13:48:22< irker914> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master a011738544ff / data/test/macros/wml_unit_test_macros.cfg: add WML macros for unit test scenarios http://git.io/9J8dZw
20140502 13:48:24< irker914> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 0797abd9ea4d / data/ (6 files in 3 dirs): add WML unit test examples, and include the test directory http://git.io/yPdsPg
20140502 13:48:26< irker914> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 634ee2d1d871 / data/test/scenarios/ (unit_test_2.cfg unit_test_3.cfg): add wml unit tests two and three http://git.io/0vPvZA
20140502 13:48:28< irker914> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 25e4e71e8795 / .gitignore wml_unit_tests: add wml_unit_tests test aggregator script http://git.io/6qBkOQ
20140502 13:48:30< irker914> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master e5b39510540c / src/ (4 files): unit test timeouts: first attempt http://git.io/tUQxKw
20140502 13:48:32< irker914> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 58de721dd9a0 / src/ (game.cpp game_controller.cpp game_controller.hpp): correct thread model for unit test timeouts http://git.io/gwkHFQ
20140502 13:48:35< irker914> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 5ac6e509345f / wml_unit_tests: add --timeout to wml_unit_tests script http://git.io/Hr1Jzg
20140502 13:48:36< irker914> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 4fb6cf5909e2 / src/ (commandline_options.cpp commandline_options.hpp game.cpp game_controller.cpp): add replay validation to unit tests http://git.io/w-XDng
20140502 13:48:38< irker914> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth:master 2da77a8ad0f0 / / (16 files in 6 dirs): Merge pull request #135 from cbeck88/wmltest https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/2da77a8ad0f07cdf5ee7c5d30bc9260c1c75176b
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20140502 13:59:33< irker914> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth:master 85630c56da80 / SConstruct: Merge pull request #162 from techtonik/master http://git.io/fEF_Pw
20140502 14:03:14< AI0867> there's something seriously wrong with the gui2 unit tests
20140502 14:03:34< AI0867> adding WML to something completely unrelated makes them fail in new and exciting ways
20140502 14:06:53< Necrosporus> or maybe it's some memory corruption or like where unrelated things are affecting each other?
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20140502 16:39:14< matthiaskrgr> are you aware that wesnoth does not build with up to date gcc ? 
20140502 16:39:56< lipkab> matthiaskrgr: What's the error?
20140502 16:40:20< matthiaskrgr> http://pastebin.com/9vrWHFYc 
20140502 16:40:46< matthiaskrgr> gcc 4.9
20140502 16:42:32< lipkab> I'll fix it in a second.
20140502 16:42:48< matthiaskrgr> ok :D
20140502 16:46:22< irker914> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:master 33b885fbb950 / src/game.cpp: Removed a C-style cast. http://git.io/0uwkKQ
20140502 16:46:37< lipkab> matthiaskrgr: ^ There you go.
20140502 16:47:41< matthiaskrgr> checking..
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20140502 17:42:48< matthiaskrgr> lipkab: yes, wesnoth compiles no again :) (no other issues )
20140502 17:42:51< matthiaskrgr> sorry for delay
20140502 17:50:07< lipkab> Cool, thanks for the report.
20140502 17:51:06< matthiaskrgr> np 
20140502 17:53:32< Anakonda> Should compiling give no errors at all?
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20140502 18:05:06< Anakonda> *no warnings
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20140502 19:08:35< lipkab> Anakonda: Yes, that's the official policy.
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20140502 19:12:33< Anakonda> lipkab: I get multiple
20140502 19:23:15< zookeeper> mattsc, btw, i take it that you're following the SotBE scenario feedback?
20140502 19:23:59< mattsc> zookeeper: yes - haven’t check today yet though, if there’s something new.
20140502 19:24:50< zookeeper> sure, just curious
20140502 19:25:08< zookeeper> maiklas is great, he's given similar good feedback on a bunch of campaigns previously
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20140502 19:26:02< mattsc> zookeeper: yeah, I’ve written him a PM actually to say thanks and that we’re reading his comments with interest.
20140502 19:26:59< mattsc> Currently I am only looking for bug reports or very minor changes for 1.12 though.  Once he’s done (and I am done with what I am currently doing), I’ll go over all his reports again and see what to do about them for 1.13.
20140502 19:27:22< zookeeper> yeah i've also written him and someone else PM's before, so that they wouldn't think no one cares
20140502 19:27:46< mattsc> He’s making some good suggestions, but it’s too late for major changes or rebalancing for 1.12.
20140502 19:28:40< mattsc> zookeeper: on a different note, do you think that there are mainline scenarios that would benefit from a faster AI?  Some in NR maybe?
20140502 19:28:53< zookeeper> i'm sure NR would benefit
20140502 19:29:24< zookeeper> test of clans in HttT maybe too? i dunno if it actually has a huge number of units though, but maybe the huge map affects AI speed noticeably too
20140502 19:29:49< zookeeper> urgh, "Note that "undo" does not work when recalling units. Also, unit support expense is messed up in planning mode. Both these problems are probably due to the Great Horde bonus."
20140502 19:30:20< mattsc> I’m just about done writing an AI that can move 300 units on a 60x60 map with 4 enemy leaders and 66 villages in 20 seconds.
20140502 19:30:21< zookeeper> i guess instead of a recall event, i should tweak the recall list at scenario start
20140502 19:30:32< mattsc> (with ‘skip AI moves’ turned on, of course)
20140502 19:31:25< mattsc> zookeeper: I saw that.  I’ll look into it sometime, maybe sometime on the weekend unless you beat me to it.
20140502 19:33:39< mattsc> zookeeper: as for the AI:  http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Micro_AIs#Fast_Micro_AI_.28ai_type.3Dfast_ai.29
20140502 19:34:20< mattsc> I’ll put it into 1.13 as a Micro AI, but because it’s Lua it can be added to 1.12 scenarios individually, of course.
20140502 19:36:53< lipkab> Anakonda: Which are those?
20140502 19:41:28< Anakonda> lipkab: cant remember, I'll give list of them tomorrow
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20140502 19:44:07< mattsc> Anakonda: what system and version?
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20140502 19:44:54< Anakonda> from git branch 1.12 and mingw-w64
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20140502 19:46:34< mattsc> Ah, okay, can’t help with that.   Compiling master on OS X gives a couple Growl warnings atm that I haven’t had time to take care of yet, but will do so soon(ish).
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20140502 20:50:38< AI0867> Anakonda: does your list of warnings look anything like this? http://baldras.wesnoth.org:8080/job/Wesnoth/branch=1.12,compiler=mingw32,label=Gentoo-64/lastBuild/consoleText
20140502 20:51:15< happygrue> mattsc: try the last scenario of THoT
20140502 20:51:23< happygrue> If you dare! ;)
20140502 20:52:45< zookeeper> oh yeah, that too.
20140502 20:52:46< happygrue> That is the single craziest (in terms of largeness) scenario I know of in mainline.
20140502 20:53:34< happygrue> In fact, I looked at the comments in the feedback thread when I went through and rebalanced THoT to see if people hate it and if I should try to chop it down
20140502 20:53:43< happygrue> and some people did hate it, but others really loved it
20140502 20:54:13< mattsc> happygrue: I’ll look up my replay of that scenario from September sometime …
20140502 20:55:22< happygrue> I have a save from a month or two ago if that would be helpful mattsc
20140502 20:55:42< mattsc> happygrue: well, there’s a faster AI available now, but of course you don’t get speed without compromising something else, so there’s a bit more involved than just throwing it in.
20140502 20:56:09< happygrue> in the case of that scenario, speed would be worth everything else
20140502 20:56:09< mattsc> happygrue: nah, thanks, but don’t worry about it.  I’d like leave the testing of something like this to others anyway.
20140502 20:56:14< Anakonda> AI0867: I dont get -Wunused-local-typedefs
20140502 20:56:26< happygrue> AI has few choices anyway (compared to a regular game)
20140502 20:56:27< mattsc> *likely
20140502 20:56:40< happygrue> and speed is crippling on some computers
20140502 20:57:16< mattsc> happygrue: well, I’ll make it an official MAI in the master branch shortly, so it will be easy to test whether it’s worth it.
20140502 20:57:31< happygrue> sure
20140502 20:57:44< happygrue> for that one I will double your money back if it isn't ;)
20140502 20:58:11< mattsc> hehe
20140502 20:58:20< mattsc> I put 300 units in a clump onto 5p_The_Wilderness and time for the complete set of moves went from 3-5 minutes to 10-15 seconds on my computer.  :)
20140502 20:58:45< mattsc> (only moving, in this test case, no attacks)
20140502 20:58:55< happygrue> excellent
20140502 20:59:18< mattsc> Sorry, I lied.  15-20 seconds.  But still.  :P
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20140502 21:05:39< happygrue> :D
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20140502 21:12:54< Anakonda> AI0867, lipkab: http://pastebin.com/b8UfExsk
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20140502 22:26:29< Coffee_irc> AI0867: I think you may have introduced a bug with a recent lua commit with units being duplicated https://gna.org/bugs/?22007
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20140502 23:33:52< AI0867> Coffee_irc: yes, I see
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