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20140503 00:23:59< iceiceice> AI0867: I think that the wierd WML unit test things being outputted by the unit tests are because the test config directory is somehow messed up now
20140503 00:24:53< iceiceice> im not sure, i will look into it
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20140503 00:57:51< irker907> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth:master 45a4334a2fbc / src/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Magic number reduction http://git.io/wD6BQQ
20140503 00:57:51< irker907> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth:master 4a2c8ed1d985 / src/tests/test_formula_function.cpp: Silence some expected formula warnings http://git.io/RVqnKw
20140503 00:57:51< irker907> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth:master 99f1c06c46c2 / src/formula_function.cpp: Fix some error messages http://git.io/j5EY6Q
20140503 00:57:53< irker907> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth:master e087767060f5 / .travis.yml: Add WML unit tests to travis http://git.io/lzlyNw
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20140503 02:19:41< irker907> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth:master 9366aa2a9ca2 / src/scripting/lua.cpp: Fix [store_unit]kill=yes (bug #22007) http://git.io/RkzOQw
20140503 02:19:55< irker907> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth:1.12 b6aa0e429e6d / src/scripting/lua.cpp: Fix [store_unit]kill=yes (bug #22007) http://git.io/KzjtyQ
20140503 02:21:52< AI0867> Anakonda: ^
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20140503 02:23:55< Coffee_irc> AI0867: hey, I'd rather be a titanoboa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVMCuZZ3XKk) ;)
20140503 02:24:24< Coffee_irc> thanks for fixing the bug though
20140503 02:27:16< AI0867> oh, whoops
20140503 02:27:22< AI0867> wrong person
20140503 02:29:27< Coffee_irc> well, now I feel better about backporting the tutorial animation to Delfador
20140503 02:29:45< irker907> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master 03c1b9780256 / data/ai/lua/ai_helper.lua: next_hop(): bug fix for ignoring units when ignore_units=true is set http://git.io/I1XmkA
20140503 02:31:02< irker907> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 4a5673a8944a / data/ai/lua/ai_helper.lua: next_hop(): bug fix for ignoring units when ignore_units=true is set http://git.io/3IEGGQ
20140503 02:31:21< AI0867> it turned out I accidentally broke the lua wesnoth.put_unit feature that where if you pass a location but not a unit, it clears that hex
20140503 02:31:35< AI0867> and [store_unit] is now implemented in lua and uses that feature for kill=yes
20140503 02:32:15< mattsc> AI0867: ah.  I’m glad you fixed that, because I use that a lot …
20140503 02:32:54< mattsc> Actually, maybe I don’t.  Maybe I use wesnoth.extract_unit a lot.  I forgot.  Blargh.
20140503 02:33:13< AI0867> I was making speed improvements in a function named "put_unit", so I didn't really consider it would be used for removing units
20140503 02:33:58< mattsc> Right.  I’ve had people be quite confused when I told them to use put_unit to kill a unit.
20140503 02:38:35< irker907> wesnoth: David Mikos wesnoth:1.12 372011fe62d1 / data/campaigns/tutorial/scenarios/1_Tutorial.cfg: Tutorial: add summon quintain animation to Delfador. http://git.io/1UKGuw
20140503 02:38:37< irker907> wesnoth: David Mikos wesnoth:1.12 bfb9b99912bd / data/campaigns/tutorial/scenarios/1_Tutorial.cfg: Tutorial: set initial facing directions for the player and Delfador http://git.io/kGsoDw
20140503 02:38:39< irker907> wesnoth: David Mikos wesnoth:1.12 8113340c6143 / data/ai/lua/ai_helper.lua: Merge branch '1.12' of github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth into 1.12 http://git.io/clRExg
20140503 02:39:19< Coffee_irc> is there still talk about releasing a 1.12rc soon?
20140503 02:40:49< Coffee_irc> if so then there's one more bug I'd like to tackle first and should be done "soonish"
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20140503 02:41:50< Coffee_irc> currently you can't undo premoves https://gna.org/bugs/?21448
20140503 02:42:43< Coffee_irc> as I see it there are 2 ways to fix this
20140503 02:43:09< Coffee_irc> on select of a unit all the premoves could be cancelled
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20140503 02:43:24< Coffee_irc> or if you double click a unit the premoves could be cancelled (as per 1.10)
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20140503 02:57:19< AI0867> Coffee_irc: I take it those commits are in master already?
20140503 02:57:28< Coffee_irc> AI0867: yeah
20140503 02:57:34< Coffee_irc> just nicening up the tutorial
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20140503 02:58:55< irker907> wesnoth: David Mikos wesnoth:master 6eb14d317b24 / data/campaigns/tutorial/scenarios/1_Tutorial.cfg: Tutorial: add Delfador animation to summon extra quintains http://git.io/TpKjmA
20140503 02:59:06< irker907> wesnoth: David Mikos wesnoth:1.12 232c8d916806 / data/campaigns/tutorial/scenarios/1_Tutorial.cfg: Tutorial: add Delfador animation to summon extra quintains http://git.io/ctflOw
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20140503 03:52:30< irker907> wesnoth: David Mikos wesnoth:master ffb83a97c8c6 / changelog players_changelog src/mouse_events.cpp: Fix bug #21448: make premoved units selection like in Wesnoth 1.10 http://git.io/eoAMYw
20140503 03:52:36< irker907> wesnoth: David Mikos wesnoth:1.12 9f4f8c35f110 / changelog players_changelog src/mouse_events.cpp: Fix bug #21448: make premoved units selection like in Wesnoth 1.10 http://git.io/m2R8Cg
20140503 03:54:46< Coffee_irc> I think that makes the input stuff all good again :)
20140503 03:56:52< Coffee_irc> that was the last of the bugs that concerned me for 1.12 beta/rc
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20140503 05:51:56< Necrosporus> Wesnoth is spamming WML errors, but the code still works. Maybe I should change $this_unit to $unit or something? Error message and code causing it: http://pastebin.com/YtsgyBsx
20140503 05:52:46< zookeeper> it's a harmless error
20140503 05:54:14< zookeeper> ...and you shouldn't change anything
20140503 05:54:40< Necrosporus> I guess so, but why it happens?
20140503 05:55:47< Necrosporus> If there's a error message, something is wrong with either the engine or WML code
20140503 05:56:17< zookeeper> i dunno, probably the game tries to evaluate the filter in some context where the unit doesn't actually exist. it's an engine problem, but harmless.
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20140503 06:07:23< Necrosporus> I guess, $unit wont work here because it's a variable for events, storing primary unit data. I guess there's a way to track down why does wesnoth spam WML errors, maybe using some combination of command line option to make game log more verbose
20140503 06:08:14< Necrosporus> or it requires some tools like strace or gdb?
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20140503 10:59:41< AI0867> Necrosporus: which version is this happening on?
20140503 11:03:46< Necrosporus> 1.10.7
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20140503 11:13:49< Necrosporus> AI0867, I didn't test on dev version 
20140503 11:18:46< AI0867> oh, so this is not a new bug?
20140503 11:20:05< Necrosporus> quite old one
20140503 11:20:27< Necrosporus> it was present in 1.10 for long time. though noone yet said what to do with it
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20140503 11:24:19< AI0867> I wasn't aware it even existed
20140503 11:44:01< zookeeper> yeah it's old
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20140503 11:56:45< AI0867> so, the engine complains about it, but removing the things it complains about breaks the ability?
20140503 11:59:40< zookeeper> the engine complains about valid WML.
20140503 11:59:44< zookeeper> that's all
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20140503 12:31:24< irker907> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth:master 4936876431e8 / src/ (10 files): Add missing newlines at EOF http://git.io/VzuZMg
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20140503 12:36:31< mordante> servus
20140503 12:37:57< Necrosporus> AI0867, but it still works
20140503 12:38:41< AI0867> Necrosporus: yes, but this is not by coincidence or something like that?
20140503 12:39:01< AI0867> For it to both complain and work, it would seem that the engine would have to evaluate it twice
20140503 12:39:48< Necrosporus> AI0867, unit is hidden if it didn't move this turn
20140503 12:40:15< zookeeper> AI0867, as i said, i'm pretty sure it evaluates it twice.
20140503 12:42:02< AI0867> zookeeper: I didn't quite interpret your statements that way, but okay
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20140503 14:54:46< lipkab> mordante: Hi.
20140503 14:55:40< mordante> hi lipkab 
20140503 14:55:51< mordante> lipkab, will you be around longer today?
20140503 14:56:45< lipkab> mordante: I'll try to, but it's a rather stormy day and there were a few prompt blackouts already.
20140503 14:57:25< lipkab> It's possible that my connection will break.
20140503 14:59:12< mordante> ok, well let's hope it keeps working
20140503 14:59:25< mordante> I'm off hunting food
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20140503 15:34:48< mattsc> happygrue: do you have a playthrough of THoT:The_Underlevels that works with 1.13.0-dev?
20140503 15:35:41< mattsc> If so, could you (at some point, no rush) PM me a save from a turn when the AI moves have gotten slow?
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20140503 16:35:33< mordante> lipkab, around?
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20140503 16:44:26< lipkab> mordante: Now I am.
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20140503 16:46:14< mordante> lipkab, nice. I got your email last week
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20140503 16:46:34< mordante> I had a look at the interface and it seems plausible in general
20140503 16:46:53< mordante> however I think we need to experiment a bit more with SDL 2 to see what the best interface is
20140503 16:48:50< lipkab> mordante: Let's go with this one, and adjust it along the way. I think.
20140503 16:49:47< mordante> exactly
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20140503 16:50:46< lipkab> mordante: Did you think about the software rendering issue?
20140503 16:51:34< lipkab> That may have a serious negative impact on the Pandora, for example.
20140503 16:53:01< mordante> yes I think it is something we need to look at when the code is up and running
20140503 16:53:11< mordante> I've no idea how much it impacts performance
20140503 16:53:43< mordante> I also think/hope it can't be that bad else SDL 2 would have been designed differently
20140503 16:54:03< mordante> (I still have some concerns)
20140503 16:54:15< lipkab> Perhaps.
20140503 16:56:47< lipkab> It could be possible that the whole thing doesn't work the way the API suggests, and SDL caches the transformed textures behind the scenes... but that's just a wild guess.
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20140503 16:57:43< irker990> wesnoth: Mark de Wever wesnoth:master 648b397c1a95 / src/mp_options.hpp: Fix Doxygen comment. http://git.io/-F91Lw
20140503 16:57:43< irker990> wesnoth: Mark de Wever wesnoth:master a1855fe454e4 / src/scripting/lua.cpp: Avoid a useless cast. http://git.io/BjOHBA
20140503 16:57:44< irker990> wesnoth: Mark de Wever wesnoth:master 8d428e06c33e / src/synced_context.cpp: Remove an unneeded semicolon. http://git.io/9jX3kg
20140503 16:58:22< mordante> yes I hope it does something like that
20140503 17:03:54< irker990> wesnoth: Mark de Wever wesnoth:1.12 1260cf424d41 / src/mp_options.hpp: Fix Doxygen comment. http://git.io/j2y7xw
20140503 17:03:56< irker990> wesnoth: Mark de Wever wesnoth:1.12 065d0de64448 / src/synced_context.cpp: Remove an unneeded semicolon. http://git.io/BnhBMw
20140503 17:03:58< irker990> wesnoth: Mark de Wever wesnoth:1.12 0a8158cd551b / src/synced_context.cpp: Remove unneeded semicolons. http://git.io/s1KjDg
20140503 17:07:48< happygrue> mattsc: after looking again maybe it's not as bad as I thought.  My save is only 12 turns in but AI turns seems to be about 20-25 seconds total (of course, this is with one AI player in reach and full up with AI players that are just moving down tunnels)
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20140503 17:08:27< happygrue> that level in general bogs me down, so it's a bit hard to pin it on the AI per se.
20140503 17:09:29< happygrue> I can send you that if you like?  I decided not to play on because I don't like the crawl very much
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20140503 18:36:09< mattsc> happygrue: well, you can send it to me and I can test whether it makes a difference.
20140503 18:37:35< mattsc> TBH, I’m not sure how it will do in dungeon crawls.  So far, the only testing I have done is on a large but open MP map, and Dugi’s done some testing too.  It works pretty well in those cases, a convoluted dungeon is going to be an interesting test case.
20140503 18:39:02< mattsc> It will likely make the biggest difference in scenarios where there are so many units that there’s a noticeable delay before units move or attack, so the last few scenarios of NR might be good candidates.  IDK.
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20140503 19:14:19< mordante> I'm off bye
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20140503 19:26:12< happygrue> mattsc: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ixhzwj2ymgmkj8/THoT-The_Underlevels_Turn_12.gz
20140503 19:26:42< happygrue> afk but if it helps, there it is.  It could be that it's just the speed of my box that makes me wish it were faster ;)
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20140503 23:06:53< mattsc> happygrue: yeah, I looked at it and that scenario is not a prime candidate for speeding up, at least not at that stage into it (it also does not take all that long for me tbh).
20140503 23:07:46< mattsc> Still, the Fast MAI might help somewhat, eventually, but first I need to teach it to work with guardians correctly.  :P
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20140503 23:14:41< mattsc> happygrue, zookeeper: … and I just checked out NR:The_Eastern_Flank (which is where I finally decided that I didn’t want to do this any more).
20140503 23:15:02< mattsc> Even there the moves don’t take all that long (on Turn 5, which is where I stopped).
20140503 23:16:31< mattsc> So unless somebody can give me a good example of a scenario that really needs speeding up, I’ll go with what I have said before - in mainline this is not a significant problem (these days - unlike when shadowm played NR the first time).
20140503 23:16:58< mattsc> Now prove me wrong.  :)
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20140503 23:44:00< mattsc> iceiceice: hi
20140503 23:44:06< iceiceice> hi
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20140503 23:44:34< mattsc> Do you usually check out the topics in Scenario and Campaign Development
20140503 23:45:26< iceiceice> not usually tbh
20140503 23:45:46< mattsc> iceiceice: me neither, but today I did for some reason...
20140503 23:45:58< mattsc> I think both SkyOne and Dugi had a bug reported in their campaign that’s related to the fight_on_without_leader thingy
20140503 23:46:21< mattsc> You might want to check that out and comment (if you care)
20140503 23:46:33< iceiceice> yeah good catch
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20140503 23:53:03< irker589> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master feabdfb4eaff / / (4 files in 3 dirs): New Micro AI: Fast AI http://git.io/ip8SXA
20140503 23:53:47< mattsc> So … I partially take back what I said.
20140503 23:54:52< mattsc> I timed turn 3 of NR:The_Eastern_Flank with both the default AI and the Fast Micro AI (without having done anything with the human-controlled sides up to that point).
20140503 23:56:18< mattsc> It took 45 seconds with the defautl AI, and 22s with the MAI.  So, it’s pretty much exactly a factor 2 improvement in speed for this case.  The question now is whether that is worth it, and whether it might be more or less for other turns/scenarios.
20140503 23:57:28< happygrue> okay, thanks mattsc
20140503 23:57:45< Coffee_irc> Ivanovic: don't mind if I ask what the current plans are for any release for 1.12 beta/rc?
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