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20140505 08:23:03< irker820> wesnoth: Groggy Dice wesnoth:1.12 acafb98bde31 / data/tools/addon_manager/ (html.py style.css): style.css,html.py: use <pre> instead of <br/>; re.sub instead of re.finditer http://git.io/5WltKQ
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20140505 09:55:52< Dugi> Hello, is there somebody well-familiar with git around here and active in this moment?
20140505 09:56:17< bumbadadabum> Depends, ask ahead
20140505 09:56:29< bumbadadabum> Pretty sure someone here knows
20140505 09:58:13< Dugi> I need to remove an older commit both from the repo and from the local directory. I've made a change and later decided that it would be better without it, and afaik it's quite awkward to make a commit that undoes the changes of a previous commit.
20140505 09:58:36< bumbadadabum> I'm pretty sure you can just revert to an old HEAD
20140505 09:59:37< bumbadadabum> uhh
20140505 09:59:47< bumbadadabum> I don't know how to do it in the cl, but it's easy to do in gitk
20140505 10:00:38< Dugi> It wasn't the last commit, other commits were build on it, but I'll make a commit that removes the dependency on it.
20140505 10:00:48< Dugi> What is CL and what is gitk?
20140505 10:01:01< bumbadadabum> cl is the commandline
20140505 10:01:12< bumbadadabum> and gitk is a handy tool for git
20140505 10:01:52< Dugi> Does it work on Linux?
20140505 10:02:11< bumbadadabum> yes
20140505 10:02:44< Dugi> Installing it.
20140505 10:03:39< Dugi> I got it working. Okay, what should I do to remove that commit?
20140505 10:04:12< bumbadadabum> I think it can just reset master to before it
20140505 10:04:36< Dugi> How do I do that? I am pretty unfamiliar to this UI.
20140505 10:04:56< bumbadadabum> rightclick the commit before it and click set master to this
20140505 10:05:46< bumbadadabum> and then commit your changes again
20140505 10:06:19< bumbadadabum> I think this would work
20140505 10:06:22< bumbadadabum> also, soft reset
20140505 10:06:44< Dugi> It would be very tedious to split the changes into individual commits.
20140505 10:06:57< Dugi> I hope you don't mean that.
20140505 10:07:24< bumbadadabum> well, I just meant "commit all your changes"
20140505 10:07:30< bumbadadabum> which would usually be in 1 commit
20140505 10:08:07< Dugi> shadowm told me to split it into many smaller commits because otherwise he can't make sense of it.
20140505 10:08:15< bumbadadabum> fuck
20140505 10:08:21< bumbadadabum> then I really don't know
20140505 10:08:26< bumbadadabum> ask AI0867 when he gets back
20140505 10:08:34< Dugi> Okay, I'll ask later.
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20140505 11:20:01< Necrosporus> What's wrong with just doing a commit which undoes some previous one?
20140505 11:20:10< Necrosporus> In wiki people do that regularly
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20140505 14:08:15< Soliton> Dugi: git rebase -i HEAD~10
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20140505 14:23:16< irker819> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master 053a9350a1c5 / data/ai/micro_ais/cas/ca_fast_move.lua: Fast MAI: don't target unowned villages if AI side has no leader http://git.io/x9hH8A
20140505 14:27:42< mattsc> Dugi, all: this ^ is the last change I am planning to make to the Fast Micro AI unless I get requests for added behavior (or if bugs are found, of course).  So for the time being, I’m considering it complete.
20140505 14:28:27< Necrosporus> Did AI target unowned villages having no leader before?
20140505 14:28:56< mattsc> The default AI did not, no.  This is a new Micro AI.
20140505 14:28:58< Necrosporus> Though it might try getting them to prevent opponent from doing it
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20140505 15:46:50< Elvish_Hunter> Hi all
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20140505 15:54:23< irker819> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master 07331c4438b6 / data/core/about.cfg: about.cfg: moved myself in the Programming section of the credits. I still was i http://git.io/BxFYjw
20140505 15:54:25< irker819> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master 7eac0da7f882 / data/tools/wmllint_gui: Removed the old Wx-based wmllint GUI http://git.io/VzlK3Q
20140505 15:54:27< irker819> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master 82e5cc8d397d / data/tools/GUI.pyw: Committed the new Tk-based GUI for wmllint/scope/indent http://git.io/1pDN6Q
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20140505 16:10:17< janebot> Wesnoth Forums | Developers’ Discussions • Re: Suggestion: keep backwards compatibility by Elvish_Hunter [ 05-05-2014 16:10 ] [ http://r.wesnoth.org/p570084 ]
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20140505 16:31:02< irker819> wesnoth: Elvish_Hunter wesnoth:master 2edb05827fc4 / changelog: Changelog entry http://git.io/UeeQiQ
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20140505 16:52:33< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth#2570 (python3-tools - 82e5cc8 : Elvish_Hunter): The build passed.
20140505 16:52:33< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/24465118
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20140505 18:38:23< gfgtdf> I'd like to enable lua in variable sustutution like its possible for formula what do you think is a good syntax for that? maybe similar to the formula version with an L like $L(...)   ?
20140505 18:42:18< zookeeper> gfgtdf, well something similar would be good i guess
20140505 18:42:27< zookeeper> any particular reason why you want to enable it?
20140505 18:43:54< gfgtdf> zookeeper: i had one when i wrote my addon but i currently cannot exaclty remember why but i think it was sometihing with event filters.
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20140505 18:48:27< zookeeper> gfgtdf, okay :p
20140505 18:48:30< gfgtdf> zookeeper: also i'd liek to enable vraiable sustutution in units attacks/specialy/abilities, so we i can do things like 'damage=$turn_number',  'number=$unit.moves_left' or similar, the problem with that is that i don't want to copy the unit into wml for each calculation becasue i fear that could be slow.
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20140505 18:51:02< zookeeper> gfgtdf, well in other places $unit and $this_unit etc are only stored/copied/whatever the first time they're used
20140505 18:51:29< zookeeper> so if you'd make it work the same way, there'd presumably be no extra overhead unless for example $this_unit is actually used
20140505 18:55:30< gfgtdf> zookeeper: i understand correctly that $unit etc aren't created if they are not used ?
20140505 18:56:06< zookeeper> yes, so i've been told
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20140505 19:39:49< irker819> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master 5806c97e177b / po/ (wesnoth-httt/hu.po wesnoth-lib/hu.po wesnoth/hu.po): updated Hungarian translation http://git.io/cmFwYw
20140505 19:39:51< irker819> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master 6fdbc33caf05 / po/ (wesnoth-manpages/sk.po wesnoth-units/sk.po): updated Slovak translation http://git.io/cp8i2w
20140505 19:39:53< irker819> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.12 57574a50803e / / (5 files in 4 dirs): updated Hungarian translation http://git.io/OcoW9Q
20140505 19:39:55< irker819> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.12 61d24e383ce2 / changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth-manpages/sk.po po/wesnoth-units/sk.po: updated Slovak translation http://git.io/i6N9xw
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20140505 20:22:12< AI0867> iceiceice: that wasn't so much a testcase as a terrible implementation of a URNG. I can compile it with clang++ or g++ if I pass -std=c++11
20140505 20:22:44< AI0867> in both cases, std::uniform_int_distribution overflows the stack as it recurses, trying to get more bits out of my URNG
20140505 20:22:52< AI0867> but my URNG delivers 0 bits of entropy every call
20140505 20:23:43< AI0867> it's a pathological case, trying to break the library, and I succeeded
20140505 20:24:42< AI0867> dugi: git rebase --interactive and stacked git can do the trick, though I've never actually used either
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20140505 21:51:44< aquileia> hi gfgtdf
20140505 21:53:49< aquileia> You said you had to update the Boost libs in the VC10 package... would you mind uploading these (or alternatively include them directly) at e.g. https://github.com/aquileia/wesnoth-files?
20140505 21:54:04< aquileia> https://github.com/aquileia/wesnoth-files
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20140505 21:57:12< aquileia> gfgtdf: And thanks again for testing that the update of the other libs is compatible with VC10
20140505 21:57:49< gfgtdf> aquileia: is there an easy way to find out which files of boost i have to upload ?
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20140505 21:58:38< aquileia> You could look in my VC12 package for example
20140505 21:59:02< aquileia> or I can list them for you, wait a sec
20140505 22:00:08< gfgtdf> aquileia: can i add all teh header how shoudl i leave out some of them ? the header are just ~100mp of size, (there are some other .lib files which have a total size of ~2GB in my boost directory)
20140505 22:02:15< aquileia> gfgtdf: All headers is what I did as well, it's really no issue
20140505 22:04:22< aquileia> gfgtdf: http://pastebin.com/GH3kT8xS
20140505 22:05:08< gfgtdf> aquileia: you know what libboost_wave.. file are ?
20140505 22:05:33< aquileia> no, but it was included in the VC09 package
20140505 22:05:47< aquileia> I just thought it's better to break nothing
20140505 22:06:03< aquileia> if you know for sure we don't need it, all the better
20140505 22:06:24< gfgtdf> aquileia: but they arent i your list
20140505 22:06:30< Anakonda> Is there any (offical) statement about compiling with mingw?
20140505 22:07:34< AI0867> we test it
20140505 22:07:48< AI0867> but I think we use the old mingw, not the w64 fork
20140505 22:07:55< aquileia> gfgtdf: Oh, if it isn't in the list it compiles fine without it
20140505 22:08:14< aquileia> I thought you asked the other way round, sorry for the misunderstandign
20140505 22:09:15< Anakonda> just note that CMakeLists.txt asumes that when on windows you use msvc
20140505 22:09:16< gfgtdf> aquileia: i think iceiceice wanted to add boost random to it so maybe we shoudl shio hat too.
20140505 22:09:25< gfgtdf> ship
20140505 22:09:51< aquileia> right! Forgot about that in my hectic to get the list
20140505 22:11:12< aquileia> It'd be nice to be able to amend pastes... well, it's just two files
20140505 22:15:36< gfgtdf> 	aquileia: i have every lib file in a 'mt' , 'mt-gd', 'mt-s', 'mt-sgd', 's' and 'sgd' version ? You know what that is ?
20140505 22:16:07< aquileia> it defines e.g. whether you compiled the static version
20140505 22:18:09< aquileia> If you want a short list what suffix is what 
20140505 22:18:11< aquileia> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6014517/whats-the-difference-between-mt-gd-and-mt-s-library
20140505 22:22:49< gfgtdf> ty
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20140505 22:35:19< aquileia> gfgtdf: By the way, do you think it's a good idea to have the uncompressed external directories in the repo instead of the .zip?
20140505 22:36:35< aquileia> the .zip is for Ivanovic's convenience, but it defies the principles of using git...
20140505 22:37:21< gfgtdf> aquileia: hmm people might not want to download all dependecies but only teh depeodency for theit own system,
20140505 22:37:44< aquileia> of course it's one zip per VC version
20140505 22:38:11< gfgtdf> aquileia: and i doint know a way to download a folder from git , but itz is possible to dwonload  file i think 
20140505 22:38:17< aquileia> I rather thought about updating - the commit system isn't too useful if you exchange a zip
20140505 22:38:42< gfgtdf> ye that's true
20140505 22:39:08< aquileia> gfgtdf: Well, what about having both? With a remark that the zip isn't necessarily up-to-date?
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20140505 22:39:44< gfgtdf> hmm we coudl also make different repos for teh VC 10 and 12 files, and not using zips.
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20140505 22:40:23< aquileia> good idea - let GitHub do the zipping
20140505 22:40:42< gfgtdf> gfgtdf: i think most people will use the  'download repo as zip' from the github webpage anyway.
20140505 22:42:06< aquileia> If we just link to the GitHub zip export instead of uploading to sourceforge it's less work for everyone, great idea
20140505 22:44:03< aquileia> shadowm: If we wanted to make repositories for the Visual Studio dependency packages of Wesnoth that are linked on the wiki... is it necessary to heve them owned by "wesnoth" or is it ok if I create them?
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20140505 22:44:13< aquileia> *have
20140505 22:44:41< gfgtdf> any reason against having it in wesnoth ?
20140505 22:44:53< aquileia> nothing from my side
20140505 22:45:17< aquileia> but shadowm might know a reason, and he'd have to do it anyways ;)
20140505 22:46:06< aquileia> so packing that request in a question seemed more polite
20140505 22:46:42< gfgtdf> aquileia: do you have commit acccess ?
20140505 22:47:14< aquileia> no, but I guess it'd be no problem to get it for wesnoth/externalVC12 if we placed it there
20140505 22:50:03< aquileia> gfgtdf: Of course I could write it as        shadowm, shadowm_desktop: Two new repositories named wesnoth/externalVC10 and wesnoth/externalVC12, please     - but well, it's up to him
20140505 22:52:09< gfgtdf> afk, bin duschen.
20140505 22:53:30< aquileia> gfgtdf: see you later
20140505 22:53:37< aquileia> bis später
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20140505 23:19:04< shadowm> aquileia: GitHub is not for hosting this kind of stuff.
20140505 23:20:02< shadowm> Git in general isn't optimized for binary data, as everyone who has had to clone the main Wesnoth repository can tell.
20140505 23:20:25< aquileia> but it'd be more convenient than the current procedure, which is: 1) uploading a zip to aquileia/wesnoth-files  2) Ivanovic copying it to sourceforge
20140505 23:20:40< prophile> I hear good things about git annex for doing this sort of thing
20140505 23:20:46< shadowm> Why can't Ivanovic give you file upload access to SF.net if this is going to be a permanent thing?
20140505 23:20:49< aquileia> and as GitHub has convenient links that automatically create a zip...
20140505 23:21:23< aquileia> shadowm: It just seems the cleaner way to have a version controlled repo
20140505 23:21:55< shadowm> Is the version control necessary for the task?
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20140505 23:23:04< aquileia> not absolutely, but it's a big advantage to see whether there are any new commits - right now I manually control whether I accidentally changed sth in my local copy before creating a new zip
20140505 23:23:24< shadowm> Hmph. I don't feel comfortable VC-ing things made and maintained by other people, especially if they are binary crap.
20140505 23:23:28< aquileia> and every change means that the complete zip is exchanged 
20140505 23:24:11< aquileia> Of course I can (as I said before to gfgtdf) have them under aquileia/externalVC10
20140505 23:24:12< shadowm> I'm going to delegate the decision and task to AI0867 since I'm not very active anyway.
20140505 23:25:22< aquileia> The point is - a repo hosted by wesnoth seems more appropriate for the wiki
20140505 23:25:37< aquileia> If nobody minds downloading from somewhere else... fine
20140505 23:26:10< aquileia> It's more a trust issue I think
20140505 23:28:41< aquileia> shadowm, AI0867, gfgtdf: I'll create the repo and - if AI0867 approves - request a "transfer repository" to wesnoth
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