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20140508 00:14:47< irker565> wesnoth: fendrin wesnoth:master 10b7cd63f594 / / (78 files in 7 dirs): Class Theme restoring the 1.12 UI. http://git.io/I6Afvw
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20140508 00:18:43< shadowm> How about no?
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20140508 01:42:56< irker565> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master e86573ec6019 / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/08_Silent_Forest.cfg: SotBE S8: give a little more gold to player on nightmare http://git.io/_4SzmQ
20140508 01:42:58< irker565> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master aeebb30d4ebe / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/maps/14_Back_Home.map: SotBE S14: add a village close to northeast AI ally leader's keep http://git.io/FFEODA
20140508 01:43:00< irker565> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master 2c9ce99551fb / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/14_Back_Home.cfg: SotBE S14: remove trolls from AI allies' recruit lists http://git.io/D7-bhQ
20140508 01:43:02< irker565> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master 3d8cecb2310c / changelog: Update changelog http://git.io/V2sc5g
20140508 01:44:33< irker565> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 51ef2de413df / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/08_Silent_Forest.cfg: SotBE S8: give a little more gold to player on nightmare http://git.io/J0p4Jw
20140508 01:44:35< irker565> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 073b311d462e / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/maps/14_Back_Home.map: SotBE S14: add a village close to northeast AI ally leader's keep http://git.io/NPPyiw
20140508 01:44:37< irker565> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 6eeb36b615ab / data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/14_Back_Home.cfg: SotBE S14: remove trolls from AI allies' recruit lists http://git.io/Lt1IrQ
20140508 01:45:49< irker565> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 f7047b840894 / changelog: Update changelog http://git.io/-o8oyg
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20140508 06:03:48< irker565> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 6eaa687d1aa4 / src/game.cpp: fixup unit tests for sdl 2.0 http://git.io/ghZsdw
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20140508 14:50:12< mattsc> Does anybody else have the issue that the “It is now xxx’s turn” message does not show up any more most of the time?
20140508 14:51:26< mattsc> Umm, never mind that.  I’m just an idiot.  :P
20140508 14:53:57< mattsc> (and as always, the moment I ask the question, I immediately figure out what I’m doing wrong)
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20140508 15:20:52< zookeeper> mattsc, yes, it's like magic how often that happens.
20140508 15:21:04< vultraz> Yup... 
20140508 15:21:06< vultraz> :P
20140508 15:21:44< mattsc> Same with typos.  You can proof-read things as many times as you want, you find the critical/embarrassing typo right after you send it to everybody.
20140508 15:23:17< mattsc> zookeeper: btw, I made a few minor changes to SotBE last night.  That’s all I am planning to do for 1.12 through scenario 14 (which is the last Maiklas has commented on so far).
20140508 15:23:36< zookeeper> roger
20140508 15:23:52< mattsc> Everything else can or has to wait for 1.13 (or won’t be done at all), as far as I am concerned.
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20140508 16:32:05< irker566> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 99c15db91060 / src/ (commandline_options.cpp commandline_options.hpp game_controller.cpp): unit tests show a gui if --showgui option is given http://git.io/pKT-aA
20140508 16:32:07< irker566> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 66c7fe1c0f99 / src/commandline_options.cpp: reorganize command line options http://git.io/VuZ1nw
20140508 16:32:09< irker566> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 287f9757374d / src/commandline_options.cpp: fixup initialization list http://git.io/tjA5Vw
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20140508 16:54:07< AI0867> thunderstruck: ee68f995519725311a89251c89af broke various unit tests regarding mp settings
20140508 16:55:45< AI0867> thunderstruck: see flg_map_settings in src/tests/test_mp_connect.cpp
20140508 17:00:00< irker566> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master bea126317bc3 / src/game.cpp: cleanup wml unit tests code http://git.io/zT6pRg
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20140508 17:08:11< AI0867> shikadibot: log ee68f995519725311a89251c89af
20140508 17:08:12< shikadibot> AI0867: Revision ee68f9955197 (Andrius Silinskas) on Mon Sep 16 08:28:48 2013:
20140508 17:08:15< shikadibot> AI0867: Keep default "recruit" for correct faction lists initialization.
20140508 17:08:18< shikadibot> AI0867: Web interface URL: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/ee68f9955197
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20140508 17:12:26< AI0867> wesbot: seen thunderstruck 
20140508 17:12:26< wesbot> AI0867: Queried user last spoke 12d 10h ago.  thunderstruck is currently here and on the channel #wesnoth.
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20140508 17:50:29< thunderstruck> AI0867: ok, thanks for letting me know. I'm aware that some of these unit tests are broken and I have a couple of fixes to them locally.
20140508 17:51:04< thunderstruck> AI0867: but there were more important staff, so I never got to finish fixing these unit tests.
20140508 17:51:11< AI0867> adding three lines in the tests fixes the ones broken in that particular commit, but I'm not sure they should be needed
20140508 17:51:48< thunderstruck> AI0867: anyway, I'll start looking at wesnoth related things soon, because my exams are now over
20140508 17:51:53< AI0867> http://pastebin.com/8K2eEnm0
20140508 17:52:22< AI0867> note that is directly on top of that commit, not on top of master
20140508 17:53:11< thunderstruck> AI0867: It might not work on master, because I made some changes to FLG stuff after that.
20140508 17:53:47< AI0867> yes, half of my failing tests started working in the middle of my bisect
20140508 17:54:15< AI0867> looks like the diff applies cleanly though
20140508 17:54:47< thunderstruck> AI0867: well, I made changes not to the tests, but to the actual FLG code.
20140508 17:55:07< AI0867> thunderstruck: I know
20140508 17:55:16< AI0867> the question is whether the tests still make sense
20140508 17:56:31< thunderstruck> that's a good question. I hope to find that out when I'll look at FLG more closely.
20140508 17:57:28< AI0867> maybe the required addition of those lines makes perfect sense now, but maybe not
20140508 18:00:51< thunderstruck> AI0867: it looks like that should make sense. However, I think that the problem with these tests is that they are not set up correctly and so they don't fully reflect how FLG is actually set up.
20140508 18:01:16< thunderstruck> AI0867: So, I'm thinking that I should rather try to address that instead or get rid of these tests altogether.
20140508 18:03:41< thunderstruck> Probably by calling new_config() and using its return value should sort out most of the problems.
20140508 18:04:01< AI0867> so you'll take care of src/tests/test_mp_connect.cpp ?
20140508 18:05:44< thunderstruck> yes, but first I'll check some other things. 
20140508 18:05:58< thunderstruck> I think there are a couple of bugs which are waiting for me :)
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20140508 19:04:46< fabi> zookeeper: I have reviewed my ancient work on your feature request https://gna.org/bugs/?8832 and the feature is ready to go into the 1.13 branch now. But still I wonder how mod specific add-ons can be implemented.
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20140508 19:05:35< shadowm> fabi: Hi.
20140508 19:05:40< fabi> shadowm: hi
20140508 19:06:09< shadowm> So, why do we exactly need you to carry yet another burden by maintaining a backport of the 1.10 theme in 1.14?
20140508 19:07:07< fabi> Oh, do you think it is a high maintenance item? 
20140508 19:08:25< shadowm> Yeah well, if in the future we need to add/tweak more general-purpose functionality and we have n + 1 themes to maintain, we'll clearly have to change all n + 1 themes unless we specifically choose to neglect some.
20140508 19:09:37< fabi> I think the "classic" theme is a nice fallback for umc stuff which does not work well with the new one for some reason. The "classic" theme might get removed when the new default is well tested.
20140508 19:11:19< shadowm> So far I've only seen the commit land in master, though (also the commit message is completely wrong, might want to fix that for the backport).
20140508 19:12:09< fabi> It brings string changes, thus it can't be backported to reach 1.12.0. It is meant to be backported for 1.12.1.
20140508 19:12:46< shadowm> Hm, okay.
20140508 19:14:03< fabi> Someone requested it. I think it was Turok. It wasn't much work so I thought I could do him the favor.
20140508 19:15:23< shadowm> Don't you mean Turuk?
20140508 19:15:26< fabi> shadowm: You are the most experienced developer regarding add-on stuff.
20140508 19:15:57< fabi> Do you have any ideas or preferences how to load mod specific add-ons?
20140508 19:16:39< fabi> It would be easy if they could all go into the same directory if they are meant for the same mod.
20140508 19:16:42< shadowm> Depends on how we are defining 'mod' now. I surmise you don't mean it in the 1.12 MP mod sense.
20140508 19:16:52< fabi> No.
20140508 19:16:59< fabi> I called it a core.
20140508 19:17:07< shadowm> The total conversion thing?
20140508 19:17:08< fabi> In the code and in most prose.
20140508 19:17:14< fabi> yes
20140508 19:17:21< zookeeper> didn't someone just implement scenario/whatever-specific preprocessor domains?
20140508 19:17:45< shadowm> zookeeper: No idea, I haven't been paying attention to Wesnoth this last month.
20140508 19:17:57< AI0867> there's a PR for it
20140508 19:18:01< zookeeper> i'm pretty sure i've ... yeah
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20140508 19:24:56< fabi> AI0867: PR?
20140508 19:26:03< fabi> This means every add-on in 1.14 will guard it's content with a #ifdef
20140508 19:26:08< fabi> ?
20140508 19:36:40< fabi> Okay, this is for guarding at scenario level.
20140508 19:40:07< iceiceice> all ai people:
20140508 19:40:26< iceiceice> i would like to slightly change the way that wesnoth reports noninteractive stuff on terminal for ai testing
20140508 19:40:36< iceiceice> right now it just uses std::cout,
20140508 19:40:45< iceiceice> but now i am trying to make noninteractive unit tests as well
20140508 19:41:00< iceiceice> i could just like hack in a test for whether we are doing a unit test and disable stuff,
20140508 19:41:19< iceiceice> but i think the more sensible solution is that the ai stuff should be reported on a channel like "aitesting"
20140508 19:41:25< shadowm> cout? Really?
20140508 19:41:27< iceiceice> like all the other log info
20140508 19:41:34< iceiceice> yes,
20140508 19:41:43< iceiceice> shadowm, try grep "std::cout" if you want to see...
20140508 19:42:04< shadowm> Maybe in a few days.
20140508 19:42:08< iceiceice> hehe
20140508 19:42:48< iceiceice> idk exactly how the ai test harnasses work, i would imagine that adding a flag "--log-debug=aitesting" would not be a big deal
20140508 19:44:37< iceiceice> but otoh, iirc all that stuff on log goes to std::cerr when it's enabled, maybe there is some test harnass that streams cerr and cout differently and this would actually break this
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20140508 19:47:06< iceiceice> anyways, i think hardcoding std::cout is not a good idea, so i'm going to replace it with a macro, and we can figure out what exactly it should be later if my idea doesn't work
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20140508 20:27:38< aquileia> iceiceice: We have a similar infrastructure for GUI related log messages, you might want to take a look at https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/src/gui/auxiliary/log.hpp
20140508 20:28:34< aquileia> and I'm off again
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20140508 20:31:35< shadowm> Using buffered stdout in general is not a good idea in the event of a crash.
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20140508 20:33:49< shadowm> Messages may be sent to unbuffered stderr before the stdout buffer is flushed, too. One way to prevent that is to use the endl stream manipulator every time, but that takes up more space in code than a escaped newline, especially so if you aren't using the using directive to not require using fully qualified names every time.
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20140508 20:40:06< iceiceice> so i'm a bit confused why `grep "harm_unit" -r src/` returns nothing
20140508 20:40:31< iceiceice> i would have thought it should appear with a `WML_HANDLER_FUNCTION` in actions.cpp ?
20140508 20:40:43< iceiceice> sry, action_wml.cpp
20140508 20:40:51< iceiceice> maybe i dont understand the wml api correctly
20140508 20:40:59< iceiceice> we didnt deprecate that or anything?
20140508 20:44:22< shadowm> data/lua/wml-tags.lua
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20140508 21:02:52< iceiceice> shadowm: thanks
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20140508 21:58:16< iceiceice> does anyone else get an immediate segfault when they run the test scenario?
20140508 21:58:28< iceiceice> sorry, not exactly segfault...
20140508 21:59:05< iceiceice> when i run "wesnoth -t", about a quarter of a second after start of scenario, my window dissappears and i get this assertion failure:
20140508 21:59:20< iceiceice> http://pastebin.com/LcsdGSvc
20140508 22:00:57< iceiceice> hmm actually it doesnt happen after i deleted my persistent variables file
20140508 22:01:39< iceiceice> the file was .../1.13/persist/demo.cfg, and its contents were this: http://pastebin.com/XxxUzKmR
20140508 22:02:43< iceiceice> idk i think its reproduceable
20140508 22:03:59< iceiceice> hmm it looks like that file is made whenever you step on the bankteller hex, and ruins all future test scenario runs :/
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20140508 22:04:41< iceiceice> oh i guess this is a known bug hmm
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20140508 22:06:05< shadowm> Whoever fixes it earns a bag of cookies.
20140508 22:11:44< shadowm> As well as my deep utmost appreciation given shape in the form of a shadowm Seal of Approval (from the limited 2014 run, I ceased mass-producing those a couple of years ago).
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20140508 22:26:52< irker065> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master aba8b3679f72 / src/game_controller.cpp: add victory check to replay test in unit tests http://git.io/1y7SIg
20140508 22:26:52< irker065> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 9df86d54204b / data/test/scenarios/unit_test_4.cfg: add unit test 4, which AI wrote in github comments http://git.io/XL49gQ
20140508 22:26:53< irker065> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 40a1e7d3fa74 / src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): redirect noninteractive ai test info from std::cout to log channel http://git.io/Wzcyig
20140508 22:26:54< irker065> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master d1dd5083fb28 / src/game_events/action_wml.cpp: add wml commands 'issue_attack_command', 'issue_move_command' http://git.io/gLif_Q
20140508 22:26:55< irker065> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 82317ac45246 / wml_unit_tests: add unit test 4 to the script http://git.io/gbuWLg
20140508 22:26:56< irker065> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 636d9b30eff0 / changelog: update changelog http://git.io/6eXJxA
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20140508 22:47:35< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth#2588 (master - 636d9b3 : Chris Beck): The build was broken.
20140508 22:47:35< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/24752848
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