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20140509 06:33:45< asas> so what is your favorite faction for playing wesnoth 1v1?
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20140509 11:00:56< Ardonik> My favorite 1v1 faction is 'random', because no one can counter it.
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20140509 11:12:14< Necrosporus> Ardonik, what about undead?
20140509 11:13:01< Ardonik> Necrosporus: I love playing undead, for sure, but as soon as you get it, people will immediately fire up their Faction-Specific Anti-Undead Strategy (FSAUS).
20140509 11:13:12< Ardonik> So, for instance, Loyalists will start spamming mages and metal.
20140509 11:13:39< Ardonik> Then I have to fire up my Anti-Anti-Undead-Strategy-Strategy (AAUSS), and so on, and so forth....
20140509 11:13:51< Ardonik> There's something to be said for the element of surprise!
20140509 11:15:52< Ardonik> Of course, random can work against me, too.  If I end up being the Drakes, Undead adepts own them so hard that I have no choice but to employ the Drake Anti-Undead Strategy (DAUS), even without seeing the enemy.
20140509 11:15:58< Ardonik> Leastways, that's how I play.
20140509 11:15:59< Necrosporus> What's the FSAAAUSSS then?
20140509 11:17:03< Ardonik> Necrosporus: Depends on the AAUSS.  My particular AAUSS involves walking dead and ghouls (but still lots of adepts), so the calculations get tough.
20140509 11:18:45< Necrosporus> Why would you call for WC, they are so slow, that makes them almost useless
20140509 11:19:19< Necrosporus> Only exception if you have nothing else, like in first mission of DiD
20140509 11:19:46< Ardonik> Their main use is to fill hexes and screen Adepts without taking up upkeep.
20140509 11:19:55< Necrosporus> Only possible exception is using them against skels
20140509 11:20:17< Ardonik> Can't use skels--the FSAUS always has ways of dealing with 'em.
20140509 11:20:18< Necrosporus> They don't have zoc, so not a good screen at all
20140509 11:20:46< Ardonik> (There are exceptions; if the Knalgans start giving you grief with Ulfserkers, then you have no choice in the matter.)
20140509 11:20:58< Necrosporus> I mean I think only situation when WC are useful if you are playing against undead and need to protect against skels
20140509 11:21:12< Ardonik> If you say so.  My AAUSS works for me.
20140509 11:24:58< Necrosporus> Ardonik, how many wc do you usually use?
20140509 11:25:11< Ardonik> Not too many, but definitely more than zero.
20140509 11:25:38< Necrosporus> would you say as many as ghouls or even more?
20140509 11:25:44< Ardonik> Ghouls are important, but human players correctly assign a higher value to targeting them.
20140509 11:26:19< Ardonik> It's a perennial dilemma whether to use your hard-won 16 GP to buy a Ghoul or an Adept.
20140509 11:26:25< Ardonik> It's very context-dependent!
20140509 11:26:43< Necrosporus> I usually only recruit corpses when I have no money for anything else and still want to recruit something
20140509 11:26:50< Ardonik> Besides, you don't need very many Ghouls to poison the entire battlefront.
20140509 11:27:03< Ardonik> Necrosporus: That's largely the way I use them, too.
20140509 11:27:31< Ardonik> Ghosts are too expensive for my tastes, though a single wraith is definitely a game-breaker.
20140509 11:27:59< Necrosporus> if enemy doesn't have mages close
20140509 11:28:04< Ardonik> Of course.
20140509 11:29:06< Ardonik> Skeleton archers I see little use for, except to harass mounted units.
20140509 11:29:16< Ardonik> I'd rather have an Adept.
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