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20140526 02:57:47< janebot_> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) Wesnoth 1.11.15 (1.12 beta 5) is out now! http://r.wesnoth.org/t40493 [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/470760679486795776 ]
20140526 02:58:14-!- shadowm changed the topic of #wesnoth to: Wesnoth User Channel | http://www.wesnoth.org/ | Latest stable version: 1.10.7 | Latest development version: 1.11.15 (1.12 beta 5) | Check the upness of Wesnoth servers on http://status.wesnoth.org | Public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com
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20140526 18:59:58< WhiteNight> Hi, is there a way to change the passphrase of my addon on the addon server?
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20140526 19:09:45< c74d> WhiteNight, yes, using the `wesnoth_addon_manager` utility.
20140526 19:10:19< c74d> Are you comfortable using command-line programs?
20140526 19:10:25< WhiteNight> yes
20140526 19:10:55< c74d> Okay, it should be in… `data/tools`, I think.
20140526 19:12:16< c74d> Ah, directly executing it may not work, because its hashbang line is wrong.
20140526 19:13:05< c74d> Try `python2.7 […]/wesnoth_addon_manager --change-passphrase <add-on> <old passphrase> <new passphrase>`.
20140526 19:13:38< WhiteNight> ok, I'll try thx
20140526 19:14:13< c74d> You’ll also need to specify which add-ons server to connect to with, e.g., `-p 1.11.x`.
20140526 19:14:21< c74d> (That’s a literal `x`.)
20140526 19:14:46< celticminstrel> What's wrong with its shebang line>?
20140526 19:15:45< WhiteNight> addon in quotes ""?
20140526 19:16:35< c74d> celticminstrel: It just says `#!/usr/bin/env python`, without specifying which version it needs (2.6 or 2.7).
20140526 19:16:53< c74d> WhiteNight: What is the add-on name?
20140526 19:16:57< celticminstrel> Oh, so it'd work on some systems.
20140526 19:17:11< celticminstrel> Putting the add-on in quotes shouldn't hurt.
20140526 19:17:21< c74d> Does it contain characters that would be specially interpreted by the shell if unquoted?
20140526 19:17:33< celticminstrel> Or spaces.
20140526 19:17:47< WhiteNight> spaces
20140526 19:17:53< c74d> Oh, spaces. Right. People use those sometimes.
20140526 19:18:13< c74d> Yes, then wrap it in quotation marks.
20140526 19:18:25< c74d> I’d use single quotation marks, unless that’d be a problem.
20140526 19:18:39< c74d> celticminstrel, yes.
20140526 19:23:13< zookeeper> surely add-on names cannot have spaces in them
20140526 19:24:53< c74d> Oh right, that was enforced recently, wasn’t it.
20140526 19:24:59< c74d> So…
20140526 19:25:04< celticminstrel> Why would that be enforced?
20140526 19:25:17< c74d> WhiteNight, I guess you’re doing something wrong then?
20140526 19:25:24< celticminstrel> It's entirely logical to have spaces in an add-on name.
20140526 19:25:48< WhiteNight> Well it states "No add-on with that name exists."
20140526 19:26:04< celticminstrel> I forget, do add-ons have two names?
20140526 19:26:11< zookeeper> celticminstrel, we're not talking about the name name, but the name.
20140526 19:26:17< zookeeper> you know. the one without spaces.
20140526 19:26:19< c74d> celticminstrel, I *think* we’re talking about the internal id (which is the directory name), not the title defined in the .pbl.
20140526 19:26:24< WhiteNight> I got it
20140526 19:26:29< c74d> celticminstrel, yes, there are two names.
20140526 19:26:32< WhiteNight> change space to _
20140526 19:26:36< celticminstrel> There's really no good reason why you can't allow spaces in both, but whatever.
20140526 19:27:17< c74d> “Spaces in file paths are bad, mmkay”
20140526 19:27:27< celticminstrel> No they aren't.
20140526 19:27:29< celticminstrel> They're good.
20140526 19:27:55< c74d> More seriously, spaces in file paths cause problems, inflicting both inconveniences and impossibilities.
20140526 19:28:09< celticminstrel> Only because people design things badly.
20140526 19:28:21< zookeeper> of course it's bad design
20140526 19:28:49< zookeeper> but bad design is a perfectly good excuse for not allowing the spaces now :P
20140526 19:29:28< celticminstrel> If you mean it was badly designed in Wesnoth ages ago, I suppose so.
20140526 19:30:27< zookeeper> although frankly, such a limitation is very inconsequential. only UMC authors need to know anything about it.
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20140526 21:55:12< oldlaptop> celticminstrel: Do you think all commandline parsers in history have been badly designed?
20140526 21:55:45< oldlaptop> unless the filename is quoted or the space is escaped, it's impossible to tell that such a filename is one argument and not two
20140526 21:55:56< oldlaptop> or should arguments be seperated by some other character?
20140526 21:57:16< oldlaptop> (the only other option I can think of is checking for matching files *while parsing*, which is not going to work out very well on spinning discs)
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20140526 23:48:54< celticminstrel> oldlaptop: They support spaces in arguments, so no, I don't think that's necessarily badly designed. They'd be badly designed if they had no way of quoting arguments with spaces or escaping the spaces.
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