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20140529 21:22:55< sea> Hi all, I'm looking at wesnoth AI making. It looks like ai programs have to be compiled into wesnoth, is that right?
20140529 21:24:09< sea> Is there any way so far to make the ai programs separately so that they can be developed and swapped without recompiling the whole game? 
20140529 21:24:41< ancestral> sea: It’s definitnely scriptable
20140529 21:24:49< ancestral> sea: Ask the same question at #wesnoth-dev 
20140529 21:25:02< sea> Yeah I was thinking of adding an interpreter in and having the ai programs be loaded
20140529 21:25:14< ancestral> You’ll get a very quick response there
20140529 21:26:27< celticminstrel> There's some AI customization that can be done without recompiling... I think it mostly amounts to changing parameters to the AI.
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20140529 21:29:04< sea> I got a quick response. There's a Lua AI API
20140529 21:29:35< zookeeper> mattsc, ^
20140529 21:29:39< sea> Which is still a bit odd because I'd have to use lua..
20140529 21:31:08< mattsc> Well, it’s either that or recompile Wesnoth.  You need to decide which of those is easier for what you want to do.
20140529 21:31:25< mattsc> I guess there’s a second interpreter, using Wesnoth only language, called FormulaAI.
20140529 21:31:32< sea> I think it's actually easier to recompile wesnoth
20140529 21:31:33< mattsc> It’s still working, but not maintained any more.
20140529 21:32:00< mattsc> sea: well, for me it’s the opposite.  :)
20140529 21:32:14< mattsc> But yes, either should be possible.
20140529 21:32:44< sea> I could add a scheme interpreter
20140529 21:33:33< mattsc> I don’t know what that means  (fyi, I have no CS background, I just like to play with the AI)
20140529 21:39:59< zookeeper> sea, any particular project for which you'd need such capabilities?
20140529 21:43:37< sea> It makes it much easier to arrange AI tournaments and to make more 'general' AI programs that aren't heavily tuned to the specifics of wesnoth
20140529 21:44:19< sea> and it would make it much easier to make a map + ai pack that could be shared.
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20140529 21:49:32< zookeeper> okay
20140529 21:49:34< celticminstrel> Recompiling Wesnoth to get AI to work how you want it isn't such a good idea if it's for something you intend to distribute.
20140529 21:51:52< zookeeper> i seriously doubt you can mix wesnoth with not-completely-wesnoth-specific AI's, unless you're some kind of a wizard
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20140529 21:53:54< zookeeper> ages ago there was a low-level python AI interface, but it was removed years later when no one ever made anything with it... because it was really hard because of how low-level it was.
20140529 21:57:24< c74d> I thought that was removed because it couldn’t be effectively sandboxed like Lua is?
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20140529 22:01:52< zookeeper> c74d, well that might have been part of it. but i'm sure a workaround for that would have been worked out if it was widely used and removing it would have inconvenienced anyone
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