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20140607 08:08:23< jellyberg> hey folks
20140607 08:11:19< ancestral> Hi
20140607 08:11:26< ancestral> jellyberg: What’s up?
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20140607 19:12:10< bxvf34> hey everyone. i love wesnoth but i'm a lousy gamer and the turn limits are making it impossible for me to play the single player campaigns. does anyone know if there's a way to remove the maximum turn limit?
20140607 19:12:27< zookeeper> sure
20140607 19:12:55< zookeeper> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/CommandMode
20140607 19:13:03< zookeeper> at the bottom are a few commands for manipulating the turn limit
20140607 19:13:39< zookeeper> i'd suggest just increasing the limit slightly however, because the bonus gold at victory depends on how many turns are left... if you remove the limit, no bonus
20140607 19:14:00< bxvf34> zookeeper: thank you!
20140607 19:14:43< bxvf34> where did they come up with the name wesnoth? it's such a funny name
20140607 19:15:16< zookeeper> in any case, if you constantly find the turn limits hard to deal with and are not playing on the hardest difficulties, it's probably because you're not using a particularly effective playstyle
20140607 19:15:29< zookeeper> i'm not 100% sure, but i think dave just picked a name that sounded good
20140607 19:15:48< zookeeper> (there's etymology for it in "the rise of wesnoth", but i believe it's just a retcon)
20140607 19:19:04< bxvf34> lol
20140607 19:19:09< bxvf34> well thanks for the info
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20140607 19:24:26< bxvf34> i did turn_limit 30 and it says command is currently unavailable
20140607 19:24:55< Turuk> did you do :debug first?
20140607 19:25:29< bxvf34> oops i just saw where it says to do that. thanks
20140607 19:25:37< Turuk> Sure thing, good luck!
20140607 19:25:41< bxvf34> :)
20140607 19:25:42< Turuk> bxvf34: what campaign are you playing?
20140607 19:26:27< bxvf34> An Orcish Incursion
20140607 19:27:09< bxvf34> zookeeper is probably right about not having a good playstyle though. i get my behind kicked on easiest setting
20140607 19:31:14< zookeeper> well, i'd suggest making sure that you understand how the basic combat rules of strikes/damage/defense works, and then just try to stick to good defense terrain and avoid using melee attacks against melee units etc. that alone goes a long way.
20140607 19:32:09< zookeeper> don't hit the orcish grunt with a sword if you can hit it with a bow, because in the latter case you won't risk taking any damage in return
20140607 19:33:38< bxvf34> i've been doing that, except for when i think i have the potential to kill him, then i'll do melee instead of bow since it does more damage
20140607 19:36:41< zookeeper> okay
20140607 19:44:17< bxvf34> now that i increased the turn limit i can not rush, and try to control more villages and do more defence. it's working
20140607 19:48:48< Turuk> bxvf34: if you ever want some more help, you can take some of the replays from your playthroughs and post them on the forums to ask for advice
20140607 19:51:42< bxvf34> oh that's a good idea. i've never checked out the forums before
20140607 19:54:28< Turuk> They are a halfway decent place :P
20140607 19:55:52< celticminstrel> Only halfway, huh? :P
20140607 19:58:15< Turuk> If it was completely decent, it'd be too boring ;)
20140607 19:58:24< zookeeper> also, i guess a common newbie mistake is to try to keep everyone alive and mainly use a core group of leveled units.
20140607 19:58:27< bxvf34> i think rushing was my problem. i took it easy and just beat this scenario without crossing over into the extra turns i added
20140607 19:59:08< zookeeper> whereas it's better to get into the mindset of using plenty of fresh recruits and considering them expendable
20140607 19:59:27< Turuk> bxvf34: Don't rush, try to pay attention to your unit's alignment and the time of day for your bonus. (Plus zookeeper's advice that units are the means to an end.)
20140607 19:59:43< celticminstrel> I don't really like that mindset.
20140607 19:59:51< celticminstrel> Even if it's more effective.
20140607 20:00:46< bxvf34> ya, that's true i suppose
20140607 20:01:03< celticminstrel> I tend to forget about time of day sometimes. >_>
20140607 20:01:20< celticminstrel> Although I think I've made use of it at times.
20140607 20:01:31< Turuk> bxvf34: More advanced than just melee/range is damage type
20140607 20:01:39< celticminstrel> To be fair though, I usually play as elves, so the advantage/disadvantage is a little less.
20140607 20:01:46< celticminstrel> Because they're neutral.
20140607 20:01:55< Turuk> You can look at units to see what their resistances are to certain types of damage, and try to find units you have that they are least resistant to.
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20140607 20:02:17< Turuk> celticminstrel: That's a good point, TOD is less critical, though it's still nice to know if your enemy is at his TOD disadvantage
20140607 20:02:21< celticminstrel> I think that's better phrased as "most vulnerable to".
20140607 20:02:31< celticminstrel> And yeah, that's still nice to know.
20140607 20:02:32< Turuk> celticminstrel: Thanks, you're right
20140607 20:02:37< Turuk> I'm trying to chase a kid and come back to type
20140607 20:03:17< Turuk> My thoughts are staccato
20140607 20:03:46< celticminstrel> It means the same thing, basically, but "resistant" sort of implies there's a minimum point of 0% resistance, while "vulnerable" does not have this implication. At least for me, anyway.
20140607 20:05:07< Turuk> True, and your word choice works better for units that have negative resistances
20140607 20:05:24< celticminstrel> That was my thought, yes.
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20140607 20:06:33< Turuk> I think my thought now meshes with your thought.
20140607 20:06:38< Turuk> At least, I thought so.
20140607 20:06:47< celticminstrel> Heh.
20140607 20:11:28< bxvf34> are you guys involved with development or just know a lot about playing this game?
20140607 20:12:16 * celticminstrel I'm not involved with development.
20140607 20:12:27< celticminstrel> ...that was not supposed to be an action.
20140607 20:12:45< celticminstrel> I have made a campaign though. Which I need to update at some point.
20140607 20:14:14< Turuk> celticminstrel, which campaign?
20140607 20:15:54< Turuk> bxvf34: Just know a lot about playing the game
20140607 20:16:03< celticminstrel> "Beseiged Druids"
20140607 20:16:23< bxvf34> cool
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20140607 20:18:36< Turuk> Ah yes, well, it's only been a couple years
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20140607 20:19:12< celticminstrel> ?
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20140607 20:40:00< bxvf34> zookeeper: i don't even think i need the extra turns. i beat two scenarios without using them. my strategy has improved
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