--- Log opened Tue Jul 22 00:00:29 2014
20140722 00:01:00-!- ancestral [~ancestral@17.114.45.200] has quit [Quit: ancestral]
20140722 00:02:14-!- ancestral [~ancestral@17.114.45.200] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 00:13:02-!- prkc [~prkc@h33-59.pool95-168.dyn.tolna.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20140722 00:14:49-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 00:17:11-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@d111109.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
20140722 00:35:22-!- ancestral [~ancestral@17.114.45.200] has quit [Quit: ancestral]
20140722 00:42:13-!- nurupo [~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20140722 00:42:42-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 00:44:25-!- ancestral [~ancestral@17.114.45.200] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 00:55:00-!- nurupo [~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 00:59:47-!- nurupo [~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20140722 01:03:39-!- Turuk_ [40399531@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.64.57.149.49] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client]
20140722 01:05:46-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20140722 01:09:52-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has quit [Quit: The Game]
20140722 01:13:01-!- nurupo [~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 01:14:46-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.134.95.128] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 01:16:01-!- ancestral [~ancestral@17.114.45.200] has quit [Quit: ancestral]
20140722 01:17:33-!- nurupo [~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20140722 01:24:18-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 01:26:41-!- tomreyn [~tomreyn@megaglest/team/tomreyn] has quit [Quit: tomreyn]
20140722 01:31:03-!- nurupo [~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 01:32:35-!- ancestral [~ancestral@17.114.45.200] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 01:38:33-!- ancestral [~ancestral@17.114.45.200] has quit [Quit: ancestral]
20140722 01:39:49-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 01:40:12-!- nurupo [~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20140722 01:43:16-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Client Quit]
20140722 01:56:32-!- ancestral [~ancestral@17.114.45.200] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 01:56:52-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.134.95.128] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20140722 02:01:48-!- ancestral [~ancestral@17.114.45.200] has quit [Quit: ancestral]
20140722 02:07:43-!- ancestral [~ancestral@17.114.45.200] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 02:10:01-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.134.95.128] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 02:10:04-!- ancestral [~ancestral@17.114.45.200] has quit [Client Quit]
20140722 02:15:00-!- ancestral [~ancestral@17.114.45.200] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 02:15:09-!- ancestral [~ancestral@17.114.45.200] has quit [Client Quit]
20140722 02:23:05-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@frnk-d9333538.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 02:26:22-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20140722 02:26:58-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic
20140722 02:55:11-!- nurupo_ [~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 02:59:22-!- nurupo_ [~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20140722 03:05:03-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@pool-173-74-87-52.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
20140722 03:06:14-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@pool-173-74-87-52.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 03:14:23-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20140722 03:33:39-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 03:43:48-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai]
20140722 03:47:16-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 04:05:28-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.134.95.128] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/]
20140722 04:05:59-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
20140722 04:07:30-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 04:07:39-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 04:11:59-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: Traveling and mostly out of contact until Aug 11]
20140722 04:17:01-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@pool-173-74-87-52.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
20140722 04:18:50-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@pool-173-74-87-52.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 05:01:15-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 05:27:10-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20140722 05:35:14-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
20140722 05:42:32-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@frnk-d9333538.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Changing host]
20140722 05:42:32-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 05:53:51-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 06:26:22-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20140722 06:46:56-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 06:51:51-!- boucman_work [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 06:52:38-!- tsniatowski [~tsniatows@2a01:1120:1:155:b9dc:f209:965c:ce0e] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20140722 07:17:31-!- Kexoth [~kex@89.205.75.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 07:17:49-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.134.95.128] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 07:35:44-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 07:39:26-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
20140722 07:40:13-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 07:55:26< zookeeper> shadowm, wouldn't it be great if SingleUnitWML had a key like dont_let_this_unit_get_trait=quick,strong ?
20140722 08:04:26< zookeeper> making sure some enemy spawn doesn't get quick is something i often need to consider
20140722 08:04:38< zookeeper> and the only handy alternative is to just specify both traits
20140722 08:07:54-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 08:10:47-!- cib0 [~cib@132.231.178.210] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 08:12:24-!- molgrum [~molgrum@212.85.89.43] has quit [Quit: Lämnar]
20140722 08:14:02-!- molgrum [~molgrum@212.85.89.43] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 08:32:45-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 08:39:05-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20140722 08:39:14-!- groggy [~chatzilla@96-37-252-41.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 08:46:43< zookeeper> aaand indeed at least s7 in SoF is broken, it seems
20140722 08:53:35< zookeeper> (alanin is replaced by a generic unit)
20140722 08:57:29-!- Duthlet [~Duthlet@wesnoth/mp-mod/Duthlet] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 08:59:33-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20140722 09:07:31-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-189.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 09:24:08-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has quit [Quit: The Game]
20140722 09:54:51-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Rhonda, Alkenrinnstet, wesbot, shadowm
20140722 09:54:55-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@anguilla.debian.or.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 09:55:05-!- Netsplit over, joins: shadowm, wesbot
20140722 09:55:17-!- Netsplit over, joins: Alkenrinnstet
20140722 10:04:16-!- groggy [~chatzilla@96-37-252-41.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20140722 10:12:22-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@anguilla.debian.or.at] has quit [Changing host]
20140722 10:12:22-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@wesnoth/developer/rhonda] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 10:38:46-!- sachith500|2 [~kvirc@112.135.54.191] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 10:41:27-!- sachith500 [~kvirc@112.134.95.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20140722 10:45:11-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
20140722 10:49:28-!- sachith500|2 [~kvirc@112.135.54.191] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out]
20140722 10:49:45-!- sachith500|2 [~kvirc@112.135.54.191] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 10:50:54-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai]
20140722 11:08:36-!- molgrum [~molgrum@212.85.89.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
20140722 11:12:42-!- cib0 [~cib@132.231.178.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20140722 11:16:18-!- molgrum [~molgrum@212.85.89.43] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 11:31:56-!- happygrue [~happygrue@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20140722 11:33:24-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 11:35:20-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has quit [Client Quit]
20140722 11:36:01-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 11:36:03-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has quit [Client Quit]
20140722 11:36:34-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 11:40:01-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has quit [Client Quit]
20140722 11:40:23-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 11:41:00-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has quit [Client Quit]
20140722 11:44:13-!- Turuk_ [40399531@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.64.57.149.49] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 11:52:33-!- cib0 [~cib@132.231.178.100] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 12:20:33-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@f054173130.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 12:21:19-!- TooLmaN [~TooLmaN@mx1.thomsonplastics.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 12:21:58< gfgtdf> cib0: i think i'll (partly) undo the patch in https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/e454252f2
20140722 12:42:04-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 12:46:38-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@f054173130.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 30.0/20140605174243]]
20140722 12:56:10-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@f048161192.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 13:14:17-!- irker100 [~irker@fehu.ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 13:14:17< irker100> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master 9ef238dbcb37 / data/campaigns/Sceptre_of_Fire/scenarios/8_The_Dragon.cfg: Balancing tweaks http://git.io/u-yDGA
20140722 13:16:55< irker100> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master 7b3e9f5e430c / data/campaigns/The_Rise_Of_Wesnoth/scenarios/22_The_Rise_of_Wesnoth.cfg: Made the undead spawns require Jevyan to be alive http://git.io/he9LHQ
20140722 13:21:32-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has quit [Quit: The Game]
20140722 13:25:13< irker100> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:1.12 fe7cf1120f9a / data/campaigns/Sceptre_of_Fire/scenarios/8_The_Dragon.cfg: Balancing tweaks http://git.io/830Q1g
20140722 13:25:48< irker100> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:1.12 136b9c80d9b8 / data/campaigns/The_Rise_Of_Wesnoth/scenarios/22_The_Rise_of_Wesnoth.cfg: Made the undead spawns require Jevyan to be alive http://git.io/t1MnBA
20140722 13:30:34-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 13:41:38-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: string+feature freeze active on 1.12 | 246 bugs, 343 feature requests, 29 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Alternate logs: http://wesnoth.debian.net | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20140722 13:45:50-!- cib0 [~cib@132.231.178.100] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20140722 13:49:19-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 13:52:01-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Client Quit]
20140722 13:52:26-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 13:57:39-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 14:00:31-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Client Quit]
20140722 14:03:38-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 14:06:53-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Client Quit]
20140722 14:29:31-!- cjhopman_ [cjhopman@nat/google/x-akiehvfjaglgvxfp] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 14:29:32-!- cjhopman [cjhopman@nat/google/x-dozmouormltvrlvy] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20140722 15:01:47-!- prkc [~prkc@h33-59.pool95-168.dyn.tolna.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 15:23:59-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-189.biatv.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
20140722 15:32:35-!- sachith500|2 [~kvirc@112.135.54.191] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/]
20140722 15:44:14-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-189.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 15:45:35-!- cib0 [~cib@132.231.178.142] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 15:49:27-!- TooLmaN [~TooLmaN@mx1.thomsonplastics.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20140722 15:50:01-!- TooLmaN [~TooLmaN@mx1.thomsonplastics.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 15:50:08-!- TooLmaN [~TooLmaN@mx1.thomsonplastics.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20140722 15:57:56-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20140722 16:04:29-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 16:07:25-!- Kexoth [~kex@89.205.75.19] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20140722 16:07:40-!- Kexoth [~kex@89.205.75.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 16:09:22-!- cib0 [~cib@132.231.178.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
20140722 16:25:51-!- irker100 [~irker@fehu.ai0867.net] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout]
20140722 16:29:10-!- irker050 [~irker@fehu.ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 16:29:10< irker050> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 2cf0e6805486 / data/core/help.cfg: reword a line from the help about mixed terrains http://git.io/bNJ7eg
20140722 16:29:10< irker050> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 8a94ed7b04b1 / data/campaigns/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/J0sOtQ
20140722 16:30:38-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20140722 16:30:52-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 16:34:30-!- happygrue [~Wintermut@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 16:47:00-!- Kexoth [~kex@89.205.75.19] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20140722 16:50:30-!- iceiceice [~chris@wesnoth/developer/iceiceice] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 16:54:47< irker050> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:master 361beb6ff2a1 / src/ (show_dialog.cpp show_dialog.hpp): Initial SDL_gpu support for dialogs. http://git.io/Krhexw
20140722 16:54:49< irker050> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:master f463cf32da6c / src/ (text.cpp text.hpp): SDL_Color-parametered overload for ttext::set_foreground_color. http://git.io/I_g9mw
20140722 16:54:51< irker050> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:master 5f63af204965 / src/ (display.cpp display.hpp game_display.cpp): Only redraw invalidated parts of the panel. http://git.io/gdA9gQ
20140722 16:54:53< irker050> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:master 0371b2ce1974 / src/text.cpp: Fix compilation. http://git.io/sioD3w
20140722 16:54:55< irker050> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:master cf5ac2bbb607 / src/ (marked-up_text.cpp marked-up_text.hpp): Add function draw_text_to_texture. http://git.io/Ov0v2Q
20140722 16:54:57< irker050> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:master bc66ff5e3b97 / src/ (dialogs.cpp dialogs.hpp): SDL_gpu implementation for the unit preview pane. http://git.io/7p0Y-A
20140722 16:54:59< irker050> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:master 364b67a6fb04 / src/sdl/ (image.cpp image.hpp): Don't share attributes among different sdl::timage instances. http://git.io/nV9JGQ
20140722 16:55:01< irker050> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:master 1be808ad2d19 / src/display.cpp: Print FPS numbers to cerr in SDL_gpu builds. http://git.io/gdul_Q
20140722 16:55:03< irker050> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:master 082274ca8ba2 / src/minimap.cpp: Draw terrain overlays on the minimap. http://git.io/aaUaAA
20140722 16:55:05< irker050> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:master b484efb24b36 / src/ (dialogs.cpp display.cpp): Fix compilation. http://git.io/AO4z1g
20140722 17:08:02-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 17:12:34-!- iceiceice [~chris@wesnoth/developer/iceiceice] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20140722 17:21:56-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20140722 17:28:10-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 17:28:10-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Client Quit]
20140722 17:35:29< irker050> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth:master 722f10b1f270 / src/show_dialog.cpp: Fix dialog borders. http://git.io/Koorng
20140722 17:36:36-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 17:46:46-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20140722 17:47:49-!- mordante [~mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 17:48:03< mordante> servus
20140722 17:48:52-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has quit [Quit: The Game]
20140722 17:49:30-!- cib0 [~cib@p5DD20515.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 17:49:40-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-23-22-186-115.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 17:49:40< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth#3892 (master - b484efb : Boldizsár Lipka): The build was broken.
20140722 17:49:40< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/30572924
20140722 17:49:40-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-23-22-186-115.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20140722 17:50:13< mordante> gfgtdf these branches are old svn branches, not 100% whether all of them are merged back
20140722 17:50:40< mordante> hi lipkab 
20140722 17:50:56< lipkab> Hi mordante.
20140722 18:00:09-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 18:00:53-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 18:04:24-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@f054173130.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 18:05:24< gfgtdf> mordante: aoring to this page: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/branches/stale some of the branches are no commits ahead of master
20140722 18:06:23< gfgtdf> according*
20140722 18:08:53< mordante> gfgtdf, true I'm sure Xan and mordate_terrain have been merged to trunk and have been created with subversion
20140722 18:09:56< mordante> and several of the OGL based branches are indeed never merged back, those experiments didn't pan out as hoped/expected
20140722 18:11:19-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 18:11:22< gfgtdf> mordante: do you think we can delete those merged branches? or maybe we should add a tag to te point when they were merged ?
20140722 18:17:01< mordante> gfgtdf, I've no objection, some of them were even deleted http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/branches/
20140722 18:18:09< mordante> even some of the `abandoned' ones like BRANCH_vendor_gettext
20140722 18:20:23< gfgtdf> mordante: i think BRANCH_vendor_gettext exists still.
20140722 18:22:58< mordante> gfgtdf, exactly but it was deleted in SVN http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/branches/
20140722 18:24:03-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-225-48-79.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 18:24:03< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth#3893 (master - 722f10b : Boldizsár Lipka): The build was broken.
20140722 18:24:03< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/30576306
20140722 18:24:03-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-225-48-79.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20140722 18:24:20< gfgtdf> mordante: so it is possible that these branches were accidently brought back to life during the svn to git motion ?
20140722 18:24:28-!- molgrum [~molgrum@212.85.89.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
20140722 18:24:53< gfgtdf> got to leave now.
20140722 18:24:54-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@f054173130.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 30.0/20140605174243]]
20140722 18:25:44-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20140722 18:25:45< mordante> gfgtdf, seems like it
20140722 18:31:14< mordante> lipkab, how are things going?
20140722 18:33:11< lipkab> mordante: Tadamm! https://www.dropbox.com/s/gxbj2w5menvg34n/almost_pixel_perfect.png
20140722 18:34:56< lipkab> I'm still working GUI1. Display borders and buttons are finished.
20140722 18:35:27< lipkab> Dialog borders are finished, too, although the contents are not yet visible in all cases.
20140722 18:36:14< mordante> looks promising, my compiler is still running so haven't looked at the current state
20140722 18:36:27< mordante> I see you did a lot of commits :-)
20140722 18:36:37< lipkab> The unit preview pane is almost done, there's some rendering issue with the text, I'm trying to fix that.
20140722 18:37:40< mordante> ok nice
20140722 18:37:49< mordante> any idea what the colour issue is?
20140722 18:37:57< lipkab> mordante: I reverted sdl::timage. The shared attributes thing didn't mix well with caching.
20140722 18:38:23-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20140722 18:38:39< lipkab> The color blending feature is still not implemented, that's why the colors are strange.
20140722 18:39:39< mordante> ok the thing we talked about last week
20140722 18:40:01< mordante> ok (regarding shared attributes)
20140722 18:40:22-!- tomreyn [~tomreyn@megaglest/team/tomreyn] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 18:41:42< lipkab> mordante: I benchmarked the gpu build and the sad thing is, it's pretty damn slow.
20140722 18:42:41< lipkab> Software rendered builds can squeeze out about 1000 fps, gpu builds can 6-700 at best.
20140722 18:43:20< mordante> 1000 fps is only in certain cases we have a delay in the code
20140722 18:43:39< mordante> 6-700 is that what you meant to type, the spread is huge
20140722 18:44:10< lipkab> 600-700, I mean.
20140722 18:44:45< lipkab> We Hungarians abbreviate that to 6-700 both in speech and script :)
20140722 18:46:09-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 18:46:25< mordante> we only do it in speech
20140722 18:46:31< lipkab> I tried to track down the bottleneck with pprof, but 1) I'm not sure whether a CPU profiler is usable for this purpose 2) the generated reports don't seem to make much sense.
20140722 18:47:03< mordante> so it reaches about 2/3 of the speed, not great but also not damn slow… 
20140722 18:47:13 * mordante recalls getting 3 FPS with OGL in the past
20140722 18:47:46< mordante> how do you test to get 1000 FPS?
20140722 18:47:47< lipkab> I was kind of hoping that it'd be *faster* than the software renderer...
20140722 18:48:03< lipkab> With the --max-fps flag.
20140722 18:48:14< lipkab> I raised the cap to 1500.
20140722 18:48:54< mordante> I'm quite sure that more that 1000 makes no sense
20140722 18:50:03< lipkab> Probably. Yeah, now that you mention it, it's suspicious that it capped at exactly 1000.
20140722 18:50:28< lipkab> But that means there's an even bigger gap.
20140722 18:50:45< mordante> game_launcher.cpp 186 limits it
20140722 18:52:32-!- happygrue [~Wintermut@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20140722 18:54:46< lipkab> mordante: I also found this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9876448/opengl-2d-performance-tips
20140722 18:54:48< mordante> true
20140722 18:54:58< mordante> but 600-700 is still acceptable
20140722 18:55:05< mordante> (understatement)
20140722 18:55:26-!- Samual [diotecktec@xonotic/core-team/Samual] has quit [Quit: The person who said nothing is impossible obviously never tried to slam a revolving door.]
20140722 18:56:18< lipkab> We seem to be violating every single point there, but it's still weird that to get such a bad performance for a very simple game.
20140722 18:57:15< lipkab> For comparison, the same graphics hardware can run this thing on high settings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBApCwG2Xs
20140722 18:58:03< shadowm> mordante: Anything to say in the mailing list about gcc <= 4.6?
20140722 19:00:40< irker050> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master a9879f827452 / src/unit.cpp: fix copy assignment operator for unit class to work with refcount http://git.io/5rwfng
20140722 19:00:42< irker050> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master b548a90c6519 / src/ (14 files in 2 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/uTzRpQ
20140722 19:03:33< mordante> shadowm, not yet, haven't read thread yet, nor looked at what exactly is broken
20140722 19:04:12< mordante> of course would be great if the log of the crash was attached to the e-mail :-(
20140722 19:04:36< mordante> lipkab, that indeed look more GPU heavy than Wesnoth
20140722 19:04:40< shadowm> iceiceice: ^^
20140722 19:05:01< mordante> and yes we violate a lot of rules 72x72 is not the best size
20140722 19:05:05-!- iceiceice [~chris@wesnoth/developer/iceiceice] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 19:05:35< mordante> and it seems again that spritesheets might be a good idea...
20140722 19:05:50-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has quit [Quit: The Game]
20140722 19:06:42< mordante> and I've no idea how much the issue is a memory bandwidth problem, so maybe we can optimise later
20140722 19:07:22< mordante> I didn't expect suburb performance since most of our current drawing model is aimed at SDL and try to be smart ourselves
20140722 19:07:37< mordante> regarding redrawing instead of let the GPU do that part
20140722 19:10:53< mordante> lipkab, other issues you ran into?
20140722 19:11:09< lipkab> Nothing serious.
20140722 19:11:49< lipkab> So, I should try not to worry about fps rates for now?
20140722 19:13:17< mordante> no if it were below 30 I would worry, 30 FPS is fast enough for Wesnoth
20140722 19:14:23-!- thunderstruck [~zaibotren@cpc7-lewi16-2-0-cust662.2-4.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 19:14:57< lipkab> Okay.
20140722 19:19:29-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 19:19:41< mordante> we can look at optimising later
20140722 19:20:04< mordante> but I expect that takes more changes in the drawing approach
20140722 19:20:31< mordante> which will be easier once we switch to SDL_GPU unconditionally
20140722 19:20:37-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc66863-finc15-2-0-cust393.4-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 19:22:59-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: Traveling and mostly out of contact until Aug 11]
20140722 19:26:00-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 19:30:03-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 19:31:40< mordante> lipkab, do you have more questions?
20140722 19:32:02< lipkab> mordante: No.
20140722 19:32:25< iceiceice> mordante: quick question, how do you build with c++11? i didn't see any options for this in scons or cmake, do you have a custom recipe set up?
20140722 19:34:40-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-078-042-160-003.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 19:35:01< mordante> iceiceice, I use cmake not sure about scons
20140722 19:35:16< shadowm> scons has the cxx0x option (C++11 was called C++0x before being finalized).
20140722 19:35:20< mordante> iceiceice, I set CXXFLAGS=-std=c++0x before configuring
20140722 19:35:51< mordante> (I still use compilers that don't know about -std=c++11 yet)
20140722 19:35:53< anonymissimus> iceiceice: you assume incorrectly in your mail; the compiler crash happens on ubuntu precise for me, whose default compiler is gcc 4.6.x
20140722 19:35:54< iceiceice> ah ok, i didnt realize the cxx0x option was that, i thought that would be c++ '03?
20140722 19:36:26< mordante> no C++11 was know as C++0x since it was expected before 2010
20140722 19:36:28< iceiceice> anonymissimus: thanks, i misunderstood i guess, because you also mentioned debian stable in irc
20140722 19:36:33< anonymissimus> and Pentarctagon just told me that MinGw seems unaffected
20140722 19:37:02< mordante> iceiceice, do you have a log of the segfault?
20140722 19:37:10< iceiceice> anonymissimus: wait so are you on windows or ubuntu?
20140722 19:37:10< anonymissimus> do the tdm-gcc versions relate to the gcc versions on *nixes though ? shdowm just seems to assume they do
20140722 19:37:13< mordante> lipkab, ok, me neither at the moment
20140722 19:37:16< iceiceice> mordante: i would have to look at travis
20140722 19:37:35< anonymissimus> iceiceice: i switch as needed
20140722 19:37:55-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20140722 19:38:29< iceiceice> i guess i could set travis back to gcc 4.6 to generate the segfault again
20140722 19:40:27< mordante> brb
20140722 19:41:04< shadowm> I have an Ubuntu 12.04 VM here with gcc 4.6.3.
20140722 19:41:26< irker050> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 90ca3e702651 / .travis.yml: set travis to use gcc 4.6 again http://git.io/wVrnRw
20140722 19:41:37-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: string+feature freeze active on 1.12 | 246 bugs, 344 feature requests, 29 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Alternate logs: http://wesnoth.debian.net | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20140722 19:42:10-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-225-48-79.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 19:42:10< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth#3894 (master - b548a90 : Chris Beck): The build was fixed.
20140722 19:42:10< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/30584115
20140722 19:42:10-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-225-48-79.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20140722 19:45:37< iceiceice> brb
20140722 19:45:39-!- iceiceice [~chris@wesnoth/developer/iceiceice] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20140722 19:52:22< anonymissimus> shadowm: how do you know that the tdm-gcc versions relate to the gcc versions on Linux ?
20140722 19:52:58< anonymissimus> (I mean, good if they do, but by default I assume they don't)
20140722 19:57:53-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 20:01:39-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-189.biatv.hu] has quit [Quit: .]
20140722 20:01:44< anonymissimus> ok, judjing from the numbers, dates and what they are writing they are related
20140722 20:03:14< shadowm> http://tdm-gcc.tdragon.net/about
20140722 20:07:53< irker050> wesnoth: Mark de Wever wesnoth:master bd3c24467247 / src/variable_info.cpp: Fix compilation with GCC 4.4. http://git.io/yAE3YA
20140722 20:08:14-!- thunderstruck [~zaibotren@cpc7-lewi16-2-0-cust662.2-4.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: leaving]
20140722 20:08:17< mordante> iceiceice, shadowm I haven't tested with GCC 4.6, but 4.4 compiles fine^
20140722 20:08:54< mordante> iceiceice, shadowm so I see no reason to require GCC 4.7 as minimum version
20140722 20:09:10< shadowm> So I expected.
20140722 20:09:13 * mordante hopes travis will show me the GCC 4.6 failure soon
20140722 20:09:21< irker050> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master ba97bcf7fe51 / data/core/help.cfg: Get rid of a U+0027 APOSTROPHE used where U+2019 is expected http://git.io/uY3XeA
20140722 20:09:24< irker050> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master 325cda732277 / data/core/macros/traits.cfg: WML style cleanup http://git.io/9rXlOg
20140722 20:09:56-!- Turuk_ [40399531@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.64.57.149.49] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client]
20140722 20:11:31< shadowm> shadowm@vmu1204:~/src/wesnoth$ gcc --version
20140722 20:11:31< shadowm> gcc (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) 4.6.3
20140722 20:11:41< shadowm> Started a build there.
20140722 20:15:18< shadowm> mordante: I got the segfault. What information do you need? http://pastebin.com/Lh91dw0i
20140722 20:15:26-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 20:20:00< shadowm> An -O0 build finished successfully, though.
20140722 20:20:22< mordante> I've seen that in the past
20140722 20:20:33< mordante> -O2 failing -O0 succeeding
20140722 20:20:35< anonymissimus> typical for such a bug
20140722 20:21:01< shadowm> The preprocessor input left behind by the failed attempt: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21371130/junk/wesnoth-gcc-4.6-segv-pp-source.cpp.gz
20140722 20:21:01< mordante> I'm off now, hope to find time to look into if further tomorrow and maybe reproduce it here
20140722 20:21:35< shadowm> It goes without saying, but it's really large (124375 lines).
20140722 20:22:40-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 20:23:05< mordante> I'm off now, bye
20140722 20:23:57-!- mordante [~mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20140722 20:34:27-!- cib0 [~cib@p5DD20515.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20140722 20:35:22-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc66863-finc15-2-0-cust393.4-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: DCW]
20140722 20:44:12-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@cpe-74-136-58-34.swo.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 20:46:33-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
20140722 20:49:19-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
20140722 20:52:09-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has quit [Quit: The Game]
20140722 20:54:15-!- Turuk [~Turuk@wesnoth/forum-moderator/turuk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20140722 20:54:45-!- Turuk [~Turuk@wesnoth/forum-moderator/turuk] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 20:55:44-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@f054173130.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 20:57:03< gfgtdf> iceiceice: can we make trais test version 4.6.4 ?
20140722 20:59:21-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20140722 21:08:28-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai]
20140722 21:11:07-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-225-48-79.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 21:11:07< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth#3897 (master - 325cda7 : Ignacio R. Morelle): The build was broken.
20140722 21:11:07< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/30589979
20140722 21:11:07-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-225-48-79.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20140722 21:12:04-!- ancestral [~ancestral@12.23.74.29] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 21:14:22-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 21:15:15< irker050> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master c9c75e9933c2 / .travis.yml: set travis to use gcc -O2, and to not build the unit tests http://git.io/4tuoNA
20140722 21:15:17< irker050> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 7b85bddb5f3a / data/core/help.cfg data/core/macros/traits.cfg src/variable_info.cpp: Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/6qm0YA
20140722 21:17:17-!- iceiceice [~chris@wesnoth/developer/iceiceice] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 21:17:27< iceiceice> gfgtdf: unfortunately I don't really know how to do that
20140722 21:17:45< iceiceice> shadowm: is there a list of what characters are required to be unicode?
20140722 21:17:54< iceiceice> there are some other ascii apostrophes in the help files now,
20140722 21:18:05< iceiceice> see the data/multiplayer/*.cfg files, in description field
20140722 21:18:42< iceiceice> this commit: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/106ce904024657e94df4063d1ded9cb71057d1c7
20140722 21:18:54< iceiceice> i'm off again, bye
20140722 21:18:55-!- iceiceice [~chris@wesnoth/developer/iceiceice] has quit [Client Quit]
20140722 21:19:03-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 21:20:50< shadowm> iceiceice: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Typography_Style_Guide but like every other style thing, existing practice comes first.
20140722 21:21:08-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@f054173130.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
20140722 21:23:11< zookeeper> well that's a comprehensive page
20140722 21:23:16< zookeeper> might be the first time i see it for some reason
20140722 21:24:05< ancestral> Sounds like something Espreon would put together
20140722 21:24:55< shadowm> iceiceice: The gist of it is that U+0027 APOSTROPHE should be replaced with either U+2018 LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK or U+2019 RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK in prose, U+0022 QUOTATION MARK should be replaced with U+201C LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK or U+201D RIGHT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK, U+2014 EM DASH should be used instead of single or double U+002D HYPHEN-MINUS, U+2212 MINUS SIGN should be used for minus signs, U+2013 EN DASH should be ...
20140722 21:25:02< shadowm> ... used instead of the previous characters for denoting numeric ranges, U+2015 HORIZONTAL BAR should be used for non-semantic purposes as well as citing sources of quotations. There is no rule for U+2026 HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS other than "use three dots" because reasons.
20140722 21:25:09< ancestral> Oh yeah, Simons Mith. Totally.
20140722 21:25:19-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-078-042-160-003.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 12.0/20120423122928]]
20140722 21:25:39< shadowm> This is all for prose only and doesn't apply to internal identifiers (e.g. Li’sar is "Li'sar" in WML).
20140722 21:26:47< shadowm> This was worked on by Espreon, ESR, and SM at the time.
20140722 21:27:01< shadowm> I'm really surprised you didn't hear of it before given all the controversy surrounding it.
20140722 21:28:34< shadowm> There is supposed to be an UI design counterpart to these guidelines but I still have to get around to writing a polished draft for the ML.
20140722 21:28:51-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@f054173130.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 21:29:15< zookeeper> i'm sure i've hear about it, but looking at the page i don't recall seeing it before. maybe it just looks different than some earlier version i've seen.
20140722 21:29:42< ancestral> (http://r.wesnoth.org/p352308)
20140722 21:30:01< shadowm> iceiceice: Is it just me or that commit contains prose that's copy-pasted across several files? Because that counts as a maintainability issue.
20140722 21:32:00-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 21:36:50< shadowm> Where are these descriptions even shown?
20140722 21:38:10-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@cpe-74-136-58-34.swo.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20140722 21:42:59-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20140722 21:43:03< irker050> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master 20bcc6513a49 / data/multiplayer/factions/ (rebels-aoh.cfg rebels-default.cfg): Replace U+0027 in the Rebels faction description, reword a link http://git.io/leRXGw
20140722 21:47:40-!- iceiceice [~chris@wesnoth/developer/iceiceice] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 21:48:35< iceiceice> shadowm: i think for instance the quotes in data/multiplayer/undead-....cfg should probably be unicode?
20140722 21:48:43< iceiceice> also they were originally double quotes, i transcribed that text from the wiki...
20140722 21:48:54< iceiceice> i switched to single quotes because there was no way i knew to escape double quotes in wml
20140722 21:50:04-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has quit [Quit: The Game]
20140722 21:52:03< shadowm> I missed that. Is that all?
20140722 21:52:31< iceiceice> i think maybe one other file
20140722 21:52:32< shadowm> There is a way to escape double quotes in WML but it's messy and unneeded in prose for the reasons above.
20140722 21:52:48< iceiceice> only the ones i added in that commit should have it
20140722 21:52:51< iceiceice> besides the one you caught
20140722 21:53:06< iceiceice> i can fix it if you like, i didnt know about the typography guide page
20140722 21:53:25< iceiceice> im just making sure that i understand the rule right
20140722 21:53:28< shadowm> Again, where do I see these in-game?
20140722 21:53:35< iceiceice> when you go to 
20140722 21:53:39< iceiceice> help -> eras > default >
20140722 21:54:38< irker050> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master 858239ace478 / data/multiplayer/factions/ (undead-aoh.cfg undead-default.cfg): Replace U+0022 in the Undead faction description, add an em dash http://git.io/Gu3GGQ
20140722 21:54:43< shadowm> I don't see anything under Eras.
20140722 21:55:11-!- gfgtdf [~chatzilla@f054173130.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 30.0/20140605174243]]
20140722 21:55:31< iceiceice> its only on master
20140722 21:55:44< shadowm> I'm obviously trying to test on master.
20140722 21:55:53-!- Samual [~dioteckte@xonotic/core-team/Samual] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 21:56:03< iceiceice> hmm...
20140722 21:56:06< iceiceice> you dont get pages like this?
20140722 21:56:16< shadowm> Or you mean the code support for this was very recently added?
20140722 21:56:21< iceiceice> http://imgur.com/a/cdhdW#0
20140722 21:56:26< iceiceice> yes it was very recently added
20140722 21:56:28< iceiceice> well,
20140722 21:56:47< iceiceice> actually i'm not sure, i think the descriptions support was added by fendrin
20140722 21:56:56< iceiceice> but the descriptions of the default eras were blank until a few days ago
20140722 21:57:20< iceiceice> i looked through again, the only other bad quotes appear to be in data/multiplayer/factions/rebels....cfg
20140722 21:57:49< shadowm> I don't see them.
20140722 21:58:21< shadowm> Not after 20bcc6513a49, anyway.
20140722 21:58:41< iceiceice> hmm that might be a bug
20140722 21:58:44< iceiceice> do you get an Eras entry at all?
20140722 21:58:53< shadowm> Okay, I rebuilt and now I can see a "No era" era in the menu.
20140722 21:59:22< iceiceice> oh i think you have to start a multiplayer game
20140722 21:59:24< iceiceice> or you dont get any eras
20140722 21:59:32< shadowm> Yes, I was trying with a multiplayer game previously too.
20140722 21:59:39< iceiceice> hmm
20140722 21:59:48< shadowm> I just wanted to point out that if you aren't in a game you get a No era era in the help.
20140722 22:00:08< iceiceice> hmm i didnt even know you could open help if you werent in a game
20140722 22:00:13-!- Samual [~dioteckte@xonotic/core-team/Samual] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
20140722 22:00:18< iceiceice> so wait what do the categories look like for you?
20140722 22:00:20< shadowm> There's a big button to that end in the titlescreen.
20140722 22:00:20< iceiceice> they don't match this image?
20140722 22:00:21< iceiceice> http://imgur.com/a/cdhdW#1
20140722 22:00:33< shadowm> They do after rebuilding.
20140722 22:00:35< iceiceice> oh i never noticed that
20140722 22:00:50-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-225-48-79.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 22:00:50< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth#3898 (master - 7b85bdd : Chris Beck): The build is still failing.
20140722 22:00:50< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/30595692
20140722 22:00:50-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-225-48-79.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20140722 22:01:43< iceiceice> shadowm: does this mean i need to use unicode hyphens also? http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Typography_Style_Guide
20140722 22:02:25< shadowm> I believe that's what I said a few pages above.
20140722 22:03:14< shadowm> 17:24:54 <shadowm> [...] U+2014 EM DASH [...] U+2212 MINUS SIGN [...] U+2013 EN DASH [...] U+2015 HORIZONTAL BAR [...]
20140722 22:03:43< iceiceice> ok i see it now
20140722 22:04:32< shadowm> As for some of these characters looking the same at certain sizes, that's a style issue with DejaVu Sans, nothing to worry about.
20140722 22:04:38< iceiceice> ok, let me raise a separate issue related to formatting / appearance,
20140722 22:04:45< iceiceice> i reported this possible bug: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?22376
20140722 22:04:47< ancestral> BTW there’s an update to DejaVu Sans
20140722 22:04:53< iceiceice> if you look at help -> terrains,
20140722 22:04:54< shadowm> Ivanovic: ^
20140722 22:05:07< iceiceice> i use italic when introducing some terms,
20140722 22:05:16< iceiceice> and it looks like the typesetting is kind of off,
20140722 22:05:17< shadowm> Ivanovic: You have taken care of updating our fonts in the past, so.
20140722 22:05:19< iceiceice> i'm not sure if tis wrong or not
20140722 22:05:37< shadowm> iceiceice: A problem with SDL_ttf/freetype, nothing to worry about.
20140722 22:05:41< iceiceice> ok
20140722 22:05:44< iceiceice> thanks
20140722 22:05:51< shadowm> Some day we'll be rendering the help with Cairo too. Some day.
20140722 22:07:57< shadowm> A possible solution too might be to ship DejaVu Sans' Oblique variant, but I'm not sure we have a way to instruct SDL_ttf to use it or whether it'll do it automatically, whereas Pango/Cairo should do it.
20140722 22:08:34-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 22:08:43< shadowm> Plus I imagine we don't want to ship every variant of our fonts due to size considerations. (I'm attempting to say that with a straight face.)
20140722 22:10:28< shadowm> Personally, I'd love it if we could use DejaVu Sans Mono in certain places.
20140722 22:10:43< iceiceice> mordante: here's a segfaults gcc 4.6 build: https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/jobs/30595693
20140722 22:10:43< shadowm> I know, that's a whole different font and not a variant, but still.
20140722 22:12:18< shadowm> Ah, I see why italics look fine on GUI2 dialogs. It's because Pango/Cairo is using the system's version of DejaVu Sans.
20140722 22:12:37< shadowm> I surmise it's also using the system's Oblique variant.
20140722 22:13:51< ancestral> There’s a DejaVu Serif apparently now too
20140722 22:14:10< iceiceice> shadowm: unrelated question,
20140722 22:14:13< shadowm> In the end everything goes to freetype here, so I'd expect the variant vs. synthetized italics issue to be what makes the difference.
20140722 22:14:13-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has quit [Quit: The Game]
20140722 22:14:50< iceiceice> when messing around with the help, i noticed that we have no descriptions for the races of falcons, gryphons, saurians, and wolves
20140722 22:15:07< iceiceice> we also dont have one for khalifate but i assume thats just under wraps, and anyways we have a description there that says as much
20140722 22:15:24< iceiceice> but for the others is it reasonable to post in the writing forum "hey would you like to make content to put there?"
20140722 22:15:40< iceiceice> or are there people in the project who consider it their job to do that
20140722 22:16:30< shadowm> Nobody has bothered to ask for help and nobody is working on those descriptions. I have no idea about the Khalifate and that's a whole different can of worms.
20140722 22:21:10< iceiceice> alright, i think i might make a forum post then
20140722 22:23:57-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-225-48-79.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 22:23:57< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth#3899 (master - 20bcc65 : Ignacio R. Morelle): The build is still failing.
20140722 22:23:57< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/30598129
20140722 22:23:57-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-225-48-79.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20140722 22:24:38-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 22:27:26< iceiceice> hmm, i just noticed that the faction descriptions are also displayed in the tooltips when you mouse over the unit type of the leader of a side, in the sidebar at right hand in game
20140722 22:27:35< iceiceice> that seems unintended,
20140722 22:27:59< iceiceice> for nonleaders you get a description of the unit type
20140722 22:28:25< iceiceice> thats a bit strange
20140722 22:29:41< iceiceice> hmm, actually, before i write this forum post,
20140722 22:29:49< iceiceice> i just realized we again have these race descriptions on the wiki:
20140722 22:29:49< iceiceice> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Saurians
20140722 22:29:55-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 22:30:01< iceiceice> should i just port that into the help file?
20140722 22:30:10< iceiceice> *into data/core/units.cfg ?
20140722 22:32:48-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20140722 22:34:10< shadowm> Nothing there is canonical.
20140722 22:36:18< iceiceice> hmm ok
20140722 22:37:50< iceiceice> is the first paragraph at least canonical?
20140722 22:44:40< shadowm> Perhaps, perhaps not.
20140722 22:45:01-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-225-48-79.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 22:45:01< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth#3900 (master - 858239a : Ignacio R. Morelle): The build is still failing.
20140722 22:45:01< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/30599089
20140722 22:45:01-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-54-225-48-79.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20140722 22:55:40-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20140722 22:58:43-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/member/prophile] has quit [Quit: The Game]
20140722 23:00:38< shadowm> iceiceice: Re gryphon WC/Soulless: sprites welcome!
20140722 23:01:10< iceiceice> its rather strange to me also the that drake soulless is smaller than the drake WC
20140722 23:11:31-!- prkc [~prkc@h33-59.pool95-168.dyn.tolna.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20140722 23:12:33-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20140722 23:32:03-!- Duthlet [~Duthlet@wesnoth/mp-mod/Duthlet] has quit [Quit: leaving]
20140722 23:45:11< irker050> wesnoth: Mark de Wever wesnoth:master 535dcf89c362 / src/variable_info.cpp: Fix compilation with GCC 4.4. http://git.io/ytSwIQ
20140722 23:45:12< irker050> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master fa67c1d77fe1 / data/core/help.cfg: Get rid of a U+0027 APOSTROPHE used where U+2019 is expected https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/fa67c1d77fe11b3a9c81028ee954d0dc5c7bad2e
20140722 23:45:15< irker050> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master cfcef0e4b267 / data/core/macros/traits.cfg: WML style cleanup http://git.io/UQGH4w
20140722 23:45:19< irker050> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master ccb9b6bdf2e4 / data/core/help.cfg: fixup typography of some dashes in the "terrains" help section http://git.io/kRn08Q
20140722 23:45:20< irker050> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 35fef745f0a9 / data/core/help.cfg: rewrite a phrase in the help -> terrains page http://git.io/_Uh7Xg
20140722 23:45:23< irker050> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master f1a36cd30fc3 / data/core/help.cfg: make a hyphen to unicode in the help > traits page. http://git.io/mvddvg
20140722 23:45:25< irker050> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 86a724a3e45c / data/multiplayer/factions/ (rebels-aoh.cfg rebels-default.cfg undead-aoh.cfg undead-default.cfg): Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/_FML8w
20140722 23:47:04-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
--- Log closed Wed Jul 23 00:00:36 2014