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20140814 03:54:36< LovCAPONE> Q: I'm working on fixing bug #22324. Everything works fine in the english language but I would like to test it with other langangue. With the dev build is it possible to switch languge?? Doesn't work on my build
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20140814 06:59:54< Soliton> LovCAPONE: what happens if you try to switch language? any log output? how do you build wesnoth? what os?
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20140814 10:06:30< irker057> wesnoth: Groggy Dice wesnoth:1.12 a1ebdd84435d / data/tools/wesnoth/wmltools.py: wmltools: split campaigns/add-ons into separate subtrees for wmlscope http://git.io/pYSoTw
20140814 10:06:30< irker057> wesnoth: Groggy Dice wesnoth:master 956fa83677d8 / data/tools/wesnoth/wmltools.py: wmltools: split campaigns/add-ons into separate subtrees for wmlscope http://git.io/q3YK8w
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20140814 15:59:19< wesbot> gfgtdf: The person with the nick RiftWalker last spoke 5d 17h ago.  17h 51m ago they left with the message: Remote host closed the connection
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20140814 16:49:01< EliDupree> Is the slow status removed before or after side_turn_end events?
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20140814 17:01:36< EliDupree> Looks like before.
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20140814 18:04:56< mordante> servus
20140814 18:10:06< mordante> lipkab, hi
20140814 18:10:31< mordante> lipkab, can it be I get configuration errors with CMake and then linker errors? The errors are regarding GLEW
20140814 18:10:49< lipkab> Hi mordante.
20140814 18:11:14< lipkab> I upgraded the SDL_gpu sources recently so yes, it's possible.
20140814 18:12:37< lipkab> I hoped that it would fix some bugs but it didn't, so we can go back to 0.8.0 if it's too much trouble.
20140814 18:13:03< mordante> these are the errors I get http://paste.debian.net/115634/
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20140814 18:13:31< lipkab> Hmm.
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20140814 18:19:01< lipkab> mordante: I get the CMake warnings but not the linker errors.
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20140814 18:24:59< mordante> lipkab, seems I do not have glew installed :-/
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20140814 18:32:31< mordante> lipkab, how are things going further?
20140814 18:33:02< lipkab> mordante: I tapped a lot of things in the past weeks, with kinda mixed results.
20140814 18:34:09< lipkab> A bunch of effects were wired into the GL pipeline.
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20140814 18:34:59< lipkab> That means that submerging, grayscaling and sprite mirrorring work in SDL_gpu builds now.
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20140814 18:36:04< lipkab> I still can't fix the font rendering bug with GUI1 stuff however.
20140814 18:36:31< lipkab> I think it's a pixel format issue but can't narrow down the exact problem.
20140814 18:37:22< lipkab> I also fixed map background drawing just to find out that vertical tiling mysteriously broken.
20140814 18:37:57< lipkab> I'm baffled as horizontal tiling works perfectly.
20140814 18:38:43< lipkab> (This problem isn't present in SDL_gpu's demos, so I don't think it's an upstream issue)
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20140814 18:39:46< lipkab> I started experimenting with various solutions to handle undrawing.
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20140814 18:40:44< lipkab> SDL_gpu can query pixels from the screen, so we could just port the current code to SDL_gpu.
20140814 18:40:56< mordante> ok the pixel format issue and tiling issues sound odd
20140814 18:41:33< mordante> I wonder whether redrawing everything with OGL is faster than undrawing
20140814 18:41:48< mordante> for starts undrawing sounds easier to implement
20140814 18:42:38< lipkab> I thought I could implement a sort of a z-buffer.
20140814 18:42:57< mordante> that would be great if you have enough time
20140814 18:43:09< mordante> that should remove a lot of undrawing code
20140814 18:43:28< lipkab> So, for example, floating labels are drawn onto a surface then create a texture from that surface and let the fragment shader assemble the final image.
20140814 18:43:43< lipkab> Actually, that happened already.
20140814 18:43:49< lipkab> With floating labels.
20140814 18:44:49< lipkab> I wouldn't call it working yet (you can't really erase stuff), but it's good for a prototype.
20140814 18:46:12< lipkab> The drawback of this solution is that it's rather cumbersome to add new layers.
20140814 18:47:14< lipkab> We could also use OpenGL's 3D capabilities, but that's more work and I'm not sure it would be faster.
20140814 18:47:30< mordante> what method is it using? the z-buffer or drawing and undrawing?
20140814 18:47:55< lipkab> Z-buffer.
20140814 18:47:57< mordante> what 3D capabilities? Only the z-buffer or other things?
20140814 18:48:23< lipkab> Only the z-buffer.
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20140814 18:49:36< mordante> if we use a z-buffer I think we need to make a global list of buffers, like tdrawing_layer in display.hpp
20140814 18:49:56< mordante> then it should be easy to add new layers or move layers to another depth
20140814 18:50:54< mordante> but how did you implement the z-buffers, via OGL or a custom 'hack'?
20140814 18:51:15< lipkab> A custom OGL hack :P
20140814 18:51:22< mordante> :-)
20140814 18:51:52< lipkab> It's not a *real* z-buffer, in fact.
20140814 18:52:10< lipkab> There's a surface in CVideo.
20140814 18:52:23< lipkab> You can blit stuff onto that surface.
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20140814 18:53:02< lipkab> Then CVideo makes a texture out of the surface and passess it to the GL pipeline as a uniform.
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20140814 18:53:19< lipkab> The shaders do the rest.
20140814 18:55:09< lipkab> So adding new layers means adding new surfaces to the buffer, new uniforms etc.
20140814 18:55:50< lipkab> I'm not sure, maybe there's even a hard limit for uniforms.
20140814 18:56:51< lipkab> So this approach won't work well if we want the whole rendering stuff to use z-buffers.
20140814 18:56:57< mordante> also doesn't sound to generic from the code point of view
20140814 18:57:06< lipkab> Yeah.
20140814 18:57:26< mordante> so using the real z-buffer sounds like a better idea
20140814 18:57:58< mordante> of course the speed can be an issue
20140814 18:58:07< mordante> not sure how good or bad it will be
20140814 18:58:19< mordante> (compilation here still has issues)
20140814 19:12:33< mordante> other issues to discuss?
20140814 19:13:05< lipkab> Yeah.
20140814 19:13:26< lipkab> I was wondering what happened to Aishiko.
20140814 19:14:00< lipkab> We should start to merge our stuff, but haven't seen her around in a while.
20140814 19:14:09< mordante> no idea, both happygrue and I tried to contact her, but both had no response
20140814 19:14:37< mordante> (unless happgrue had a response during my absence, but my e-mail is unanswered)
20140814 19:14:37< lipkab> Oh hm.
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20140814 19:15:41< lipkab> Well, nothing else, then.
20140814 19:15:47< mordante> so for now I assume she will not proceed on her project
20140814 19:16:08< mordante> if she turns up again we need to figure out what the best way to reboot her project is
20140814 19:17:41< mordante> ok I also have nothing for now, will try to compile wesnoth with the recent changes and keep you informed
20140814 19:18:04< lipkab> Okay.
20140814 19:21:34< mordante> then I'm off for now
20140814 19:21:53< lipkab> Bye.
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