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20140910 13:07:28< irker854> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master f092b2a1ce91 / src/saved_game.hpp: update comments in saved_game.hpp http://git.io/yDSsSw
20140910 13:13:00< zookeeper> 20140910 19:11:10 error general: Tidak bisa menyimpan permainan secara otomatis. Tolong simpan permainan ini sendiri.save_game_failed: Tidak bisa menulis ke file
20140910 13:13:09< zookeeper> who's bright idea was it to translate error messages? :x
20140910 13:14:12< zookeeper> s/who's/whose
20140910 13:17:16< vultraz> What language is that anyway
20140910 13:25:52< zookeeper> indonesian
20140910 13:31:50< Anakonda> google translate: can't write file
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20140910 15:40:12< gfgtdf> zookeeper: it looks like in this case the same mesasge is used for the dialog and the stderr message.
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20140910 15:47:39< mattsc> gfgtdf: hi
20140910 15:47:51< gfgtdf> mattsc: hi
20140910 15:48:06< mattsc> have you been following this: https://gna.org/bugs/?22601
20140910 15:48:42< mattsc> It’s something I have actually just realized myself within the last few days while working on my campaign, and it might be a long-standing thing.
20140910 15:49:12< mattsc> I don’t know the latter for sure, but I remember having problems with sides sometimes being persistent and sometimes not as far back as … at least 1.9, if not earlier.
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20140910 15:50:26< gfgtdf> mattsc: hmm ye actualy half of the 'annonymous' posts in that report were by me. You mean 1.11.9 ?
20140910 15:50:41< mattsc> No, I mean 1.9.x
20140910 15:51:03< mattsc> okay, I was wondering about that (whether you were the second poster), that’s why I pinged you  :)
20140910 15:51:13< mattsc> Essentially, what I found is this:
20140910 15:51:16< mattsc> If you have a persistent side and kill its leader, then bring the leader back on a later turn, the side's recall list gets carried over only if one reloads _after_ the leader was put back on the map.  If one does not reload after that happens, the recall list does not get carried over.
20140910 15:52:21< mattsc> I have, of course, no idea whether my problems from 2 or 3 years ago had the same root cause, I never was able back then to figure out what made it happen.
20140910 15:52:28< gfgtdf> mattsc: yes that also the behaviour i overserved. I am ausre tha anythign that "depends on whether we reload" is not the intended behaviour.
20140910 15:52:46< mattsc> Agreed.
20140910 15:53:36< mattsc> I’ve built a work-around into my scenario, but of course this seems like a pretty serious bug that would be good if it could be fixed.  (and I have no idea how hard that might be)
20140910 15:53:40< mattsc> Anyways, if you’re aware of it, then I’m happy.  :)
20140910 15:53:42< gfgtdf> mattsc: there was a patch in 1.11.7 that changes behaviur https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/fe3224e9b428ab72a834fd22fc2443c159d11480 and than there were changes by me in 1.11.13
20140910 15:54:25< mattsc> I see
20140910 15:54:45< mattsc> I probably knew that at some point  :P
20140910 15:55:00< mattsc> I’ll check sometime whether that fixes the problem in my scenario.
20140910 15:55:09< gfgtdf> mattsc: the 1.11.7 removes a side form carryover when all leaders are lost. Maybe we shoudl bring it back when teh leader appears again ?
20140910 15:55:54< mattsc> Yeah, maybe.  I don’t know what the best thing to do would be, but it seems to have broken at least one mainline scenario.
20140910 15:55:58< gfgtdf> mattsc: note that remove_from_carryover_on_leaders_loss was replaced with remove_from_carryover_on_defeat
20140910 15:56:11< mattsc> ok
20140910 15:57:08< mattsc> [as a side note, so likely what I observed on 1.9 was a different problem then]
20140910 16:05:12< mattsc> gfgtdf: I have to be off, I’m on the road again …
20140910 16:05:16< mattsc> thanks for the information
20140910 16:06:35< irker854> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:carryover_fix_1_12 e0ec8c32b22c / src/play_controller.cpp: dont delete a side from carryover if it came back to life http://git.io/AXwo7Q
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20140910 16:07:56< mattsc> gfgtdf: oh, cool; I’ll test that in a couple days when I’m back home.
20140910 16:08:03< gfgtdf> thunderstruck: can you please take a look at: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/281
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20140910 22:54:02< gfgtdf> RiftWalker: why did you change the reload parameter here: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/5a9da1aeaf4940f1f3f20ac524414b0d9b2172eb?diff=unified#diff-c354fbc5f1702f285af47f2320fc292bL845 ?
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