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20141007 01:46:40< vultraz> is graphincludes/project still used by anything?
20141007 01:47:12< vultraz> last commit was 9 years ago
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20141007 08:09:42< shadowm> mattsc: I have marked https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?22354 as Blocker (I only realized its ultimate implications just now), but it should be noted that it's an exclusively server-side bug I hope I'll be able to fix "soon".
20141007 08:10:15< shadowm> Which means it's completely detached from the release process, much like the refactoring which I'll unfortunately need to merge into 1.12 over the upcoming days.
20141007 08:10:25< shadowm> s/which//
20141007 08:17:55< shadowm> iceiceice: Re <https://gna.org/bugs/?22544>, you'll have to help me here. What's the visual glitch?
20141007 08:19:34< shadowm> At least I don't see anything out of the ordinary other than a few units lacking a team coloring transform.
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20141007 09:27:06< vultraz> shadowm: what to do about the translation PRs?
20141007 09:28:44< vultraz> Specifically #274 - 274 relating to the Spanish translations
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20141007 10:04:54< loonycyborg> vultraz: It's Ivanovic's work :P
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20141007 11:11:02< vultraz> loonycyborg: but he's afk
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20141007 13:50:31< mattsc> shadowm: okay, thanks.
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20141007 14:55:31< mattsc> zookeeper: what’s your current take on https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?22466 ?
20141007 14:55:42< mattsc> One way or another, we need to fix the affected scenarios.
20141007 14:59:10< mattsc> If it were up to me, I’d leave the sighted event behavior as it is now and fix the WML.  (We’ve already done this in SotBE when we went through that.)
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20141007 15:01:16< zookeeper> mattsc, i guess i just want someone to make the decision so i know whether or not the WML needs to be adjusted or not
20141007 15:01:41< mattsc> zookeeper: okay, let’s keep the sighted events as they are and fix the WML.  :)
20141007 15:01:51< zookeeper> right
20141007 15:03:19< mattsc> I believe there are arguments for both ways of having the sighted events work, so we might as well keep them the way they are.
20141007 15:03:42< mattsc> We should make sure that the wiki states that the behavior has changed in 1.11
20141007 15:03:50< mattsc> I can do that
20141007 15:04:52< mattsc> zookeeper: will you do the WML changes?
20141007 15:06:28< zookeeper> i guess i can... the only thing i'm not happy about is having to do that many changes both in master and 1.12
20141007 15:08:50< mattsc> zookeeper: hmm, yeah, that’s quite a few ...
20141007 15:09:10< mattsc> let me know if you want to split the work
20141007 15:10:06< zookeeper> okay
20141007 15:10:44< mattsc> The fix is trivial, right?  Just add a filter for the human side?  It’s just all the testing that’s a pita?
20141007 15:11:30< zookeeper> yes, the fixes should be very straightforward
20141007 15:11:40< zookeeper> and frankly i wasn't planning on testing them :p
20141007 15:13:17< mattsc> Sounds good to me.  I might do a couple point tests afterward (like the one reported in the bug report since it’s so easy), but other than that, in the worst case it won’t be any worse than it is now.
20141007 15:18:47< zookeeper> umm, looks like everything's already fixed. in master anyway.
20141007 15:19:21< mattsc> okay …
20141007 15:20:10< zookeeper> looks like i did that in 0104d3
20141007 15:21:35< zookeeper> whether i ported that to 1.12 i don't know
20141007 15:22:04< mattsc> cool
20141007 15:23:27< mattsc> a ‘git log —grep=secondary’ does not find it in 1.12
20141007 15:23:29< zookeeper> i guess i'll finally make that 1.12 clone so i don't have to keep switching branches
20141007 15:23:57< mattsc> that’s what I am using, it’s very convenient
20141007 15:24:13< zookeeper> well, in any case, since you offered to split the work... it'd be convenient if you could port that commit to 1.12 :P
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20141007 15:25:49< mattsc> sure, I’ll see if it can simply be cherry-picked
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20141007 15:26:42< zookeeper> great
20141007 15:26:45 * zookeeper grabs a sandwich
20141007 15:27:02< mattsc> it can   :D 
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20141007 15:28:05< irker663> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:1.12 5b1e975bbae6 / data/campaigns/ (8 files in 7 dirs): Added secondary unit filters to sighted events http://git.io/rYIsOg
20141007 15:28:26< mattsc> zookeeper: ^   (that was easy!)
20141007 15:28:58< mattsc> Will you update the bug report?
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20141007 15:29:12< mattsc> I’ll add a statement to the wiki that behavior has changed in 1.11 if it is not there already.
20141007 15:29:59< mattsc> zookeeper: and I guess this should be added to the changelog as well
20141007 15:47:13< zookeeper> sure, i'll update the report
20141007 15:47:27< zookeeper> i'll assign it to you while i'm at it just in case there's any follow-up
20141007 15:47:45< mattsc> okay
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20141007 16:13:25< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: i don't handle pull requests at all!
20141007 16:14:03< loonycyborg> you're chief translation maintainer
20141007 16:14:24< loonycyborg> if you don't handle them then you definitely should delegate the responsibility to someone
20141007 16:21:28 * Ivanovic delegates this to anyone who is willing to handle pull requests
20141007 16:29:55-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.12 RC1 (aka 1.11.17) planned for "soon" (maybe this saturday) | string+feature freeze active on 1.12 | 256 bugs, 338 feature requests, 29 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Alternate logs: http://wesnoth.debian.net | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20141007 18:06:43< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: you need to give git push rights to translation maintainers, or designate someone to pull requests for them
20141007 18:07:01< loonycyborg> or explicitly disallow submission of translation updates via github
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20141007 18:18:46< Ivanovic> that is possible?
20141007 18:19:02< Ivanovic> anyway, i am off for the evening, CU
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20141007 20:22:01< shadowm> vultraz: First and foremost, as our i18n manager, Ivanovic must decide how to handle translation pull requests, if at all.
20141007 20:22:18< vultraz> [03:21:26]	Ivanovic	delegates this to anyone who is willing to handle pull requests
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20141007 20:22:58< shadowm> Ivanovic: Meaning you can decide to disallow translation PRs. "Is this possible?" Yes, it's as possible as forbidding spam in our forums -- which means there has to be a policy and people willing to uphold it.
20141007 20:23:17< shadowm> If you say "no translation PRs" we'll just link people to wiki.w.o/WesnothTranslations and close them on sight.
20141007 20:23:37< shadowm> But making the decision is your responsibility.
20141007 20:31:43< vultraz> shadowm: I only asked you since you speak Spanish, and the guy was "improving" the translation, therefor it would be good for a native speaker to look at it
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20141007 20:34:11< shadowm> vultraz: You asked me?
20141007 20:34:26< shadowm> I am not the Spanish translation maintainer.
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20141007 21:09:09< mattsc> Hey All: I talked to Ivanovic and we would like to release 1.11.17 this Saturday.  We would also like this to be 1.12-RC1.
20141007 21:09:29< mattsc> Are there any reasons why 1.11.17 is not releasable then?
20141007 21:11:31< mattsc> Note that this is different from the question of whether 1.11.17 would be ready to serve as 1.12.0.  Not all the issues that were listed in the thread about releasing 1.12 on the mailing list need to be fixed for that.
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