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--- Day changed Sat Oct 25 2014
20141025 00:00:07< iceiceice> and added an option e.g. attribute "stock_phrase_id" to [chat]
20141025 00:00:18< iceiceice> so that the client would replace it with the localized translation
20141025 00:00:29< iceiceice> idk if you ever played or watched this blizzard game hearthstone
20141025 00:00:31< iceiceice> idk if you ever played or watched this blizzard game hearthstone?
20141025 00:00:38< iceiceice> ^sorry for spam XD
20141025 00:00:40< fendrin> no
20141025 00:00:47< iceiceice> idk if you watch a hearthstone stream,
20141025 00:01:03< iceiceice> much communication is done using a right click menu wiht a handful of phrases
20141025 00:01:31< iceiceice> i think it might help alot to play with people whom you don't share a language with
20141025 00:01:52< fendrin> nice
20141025 00:02:20< iceiceice> i guess the stock phrase id thing can be totally client side though
20141025 00:02:47< iceiceice> so its a nonsequitur from the boost reference i posted above...
20141025 00:02:49< iceiceice> anyways...
20141025 00:06:16< thunderstruck> fendrin: So is Bob talking about networked MP?
20141025 00:07:19< fendrin> thunderstruck: I think he is. But it does not matter. The bug shows its ugly head in almost every configuration. It is just that every way of mp local/host/not_host is differently broken.
20141025 00:07:58< thunderstruck> fendrin: I'm not sure I see how local MP is broken here.
20141025 00:09:34< gfgtdf> iceiceice: actualy i dont know how the server simple_wml handles translatable nessages
20141025 00:09:42< gfgtdf> iceiceice: did my branch compile for you now ?
20141025 00:09:51< fendrin> thunderstruck: Have a look at the "status table" (alt-s) please.
20141025 00:09:55< iceiceice> i dont know if i pulled it recently enough
20141025 00:11:02< thunderstruck> fendrin: Thanks. I see it now.
20141025 00:11:31< iceiceice> gfgtdf: this fixes a warning for me:
20141025 00:11:32< iceiceice> https://github.com/cbeck88/wesnoth/commit/b15930db5ba08d9ec719241d5eac5df23e57a058
20141025 00:11:51< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i still cant compile though
20141025 00:12:33< gfgtdf> iceiceice: you knwo what language_def:: alternatives o ?
20141025 00:12:35< gfgtdf> do*
20141025 00:12:39< fendrin> thunderstruck: I must admit that the local mp is the one with the fewest problems. At least here are no units renamed and it is very hidden in the status table.
20141025 00:12:47< iceiceice> http://pastebin.com/Baqe4i0s
20141025 00:13:06< iceiceice> no i dont know waht language_def is
20141025 00:13:36< gfgtdf> alternates*
20141025 00:13:43< thunderstruck> fendrin: I'm not trying to deny that there are no problems here. It just helps me to specifically know what the problem is before I try to fix it.
20141025 00:13:45< gfgtdf> iceiceice: one of our custom classes
20141025 00:14:16< thunderstruck> s/specifically/exactly
20141025 00:14:29< iceiceice> thunderstruck: i think someone pm'd me recently
20141025 00:14:33< iceiceice> about the status table thing
20141025 00:14:37< iceiceice> with a very detailed pm
20141025 00:14:38< fendrin> thunderstruck: Sure. A proper bug report wouldn't hurt :-)
20141025 00:14:42< iceiceice> i dont remember it now, i will forward it to you
20141025 00:17:08< thunderstruck> iceiceice: Thanks.
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20141025 00:24:50< travis-ci> gfgtdf/wesnoth-old#313 (gettext_reorder - bb5ec0d : gfgtdf): The build was fixed.
20141025 00:24:51< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/38981451
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20141025 01:15:25 * mattsc beats loonycyborg !
20141025 01:15:40< loonycyborg> hmm yes?
20141025 01:15:44< mattsc> Where’s that showboating emoticon when you need it ?!?
20141025 01:16:07< mattsc> shadowm, Ivanovic (loonycyborg): 1.11.18 OS X package is up on SF
20141025 01:18:08< loonycyborg> hmm, Ivanovic didn't even highlight me
20141025 01:18:21< loonycyborg> and I was so busy with other stuff
20141025 01:18:24< loonycyborg> didn't even see
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20141025 01:20:25< mattsc> rats, there goes my victory …  ;)
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20141025 01:51:49< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i psuhed again my branch
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20141025 02:04:29< loonycyborg> gfgtdf: I tried running  1.11.18 release from non-ascii path
20141025 02:04:44< loonycyborg> images didn't work, but text did
20141025 02:04:55< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: translated ?
20141025 02:04:55< loonycyborg> and it was properly translated
20141025 02:05:26< gfgtdf> hm
20141025 02:06:40< shadowm> Is RELEASE_NOTES up to date?
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20141025 02:09:17< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: ok i coudl wonfirm that with an oder downloaded release
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20141025 02:10:03< loonycyborg> anyway I uploaded new release too
20141025 02:11:04< iceiceice> loonycyborg: did you change libintl dll or anything?
20141025 02:12:52< loonycyborg> lemme check if those 2 libintls are different
20141025 02:13:01< loonycyborg> you can also try libintl from release
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20141025 02:14:16< loonycyborg> hmm they have different sizes
20141025 02:14:50< loonycyborg> or wait no
20141025 02:14:58< loonycyborg> sizes are same
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20141025 02:15:32< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i compiled your branch,
20141025 02:15:33< iceiceice> i test now
20141025 02:15:42< loonycyborg> checksums match
20141025 02:16:12< loonycyborg> my release is using stuff from wesnoth-deps
20141025 02:16:20< iceiceice> it compiles but i stil cant change languae
20141025 02:16:22< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: actualy i cannot confirm it
20141025 02:16:50< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: my first test wans with characters that are not utf8 but still inside teh windoiws ansi codepage
20141025 02:16:54< gfgtdf> was with*
20141025 02:17:46< iceiceice> loonycyborg: i get bugs with this dir as part of my wesnoth checkout path: "a-áÇØßÜ"
20141025 02:18:09< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: if i put our favourite character in teh filename (_͡°_͜ʖ_͡°)_Ä_¥_∀⣟  it doesnt even start
20141025 02:18:17< gfgtdf> tested with 1.11.11
20141025 02:20:08< loonycyborg> for me it starts with russian characters in path
20141025 02:20:16< mattsc> > loonycyborg: gfgtdf: I tried running  1.11.18 release from non-ascii path
20141025 02:20:25< mattsc> wait.  You’ve done this in 1.12 already?
20141025 02:20:34< loonycyborg> no
20141025 02:20:42< loonycyborg> 1.12 uses old code
20141025 02:20:52< mattsc> okay, thanks for confirming, that’s what I thought
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20141025 02:20:58< travis-ci> gfgtdf/wesnoth-old#314 (gettext_reorder - 38e956c : gfgtdf): The build was broken.
20141025 02:20:58< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/38989043
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20141025 02:24:34< mattsc> shadowm: I think the release notes should say something about LoW, since that was mentioned under release-critical issue in 1.11.17
20141025 02:24:40< mattsc> fendrin: ^
20141025 02:26:37< fendrin> mattsc: "Finally, the Legend of Wesmere campaign has been made available as the first multiplayer-ready campaign shipping with the game."
20141025 02:29:45< shadowm> Not those release notes, we mean the announcement for 1.11.18.
20141025 02:30:31< fendrin> mattsc: Do you think the situation has improved much?
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20141025 02:31:41< mattsc> fendrin: yes, I do
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20141025 02:31:57< travis-ci> gfgtdf/wesnoth-old#315 (gettext_reorder - ff36d26 : gfgtdf): The build was broken.
20141025 02:31:58< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/38989600
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20141025 02:32:26< mattsc> fendrin: check out the “known release critical issues” here: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=41074
20141025 02:32:35< mattsc> you’ve fixed most or all of those
20141025 02:36:52< fendrin> mattsc: Most of them were easy ones.
20141025 02:37:21< fendrin> thunderstruck: still around?
20141025 02:38:54< mattsc> fendrin: it doesn’t matter how easy they were to fix; they were known and very visible bugs; they should be mewntioned
20141025 02:39:21< iceiceice> hmm i get some of this in my stderr now, gfgtdf: 20141024 22:38:57 warning general: setlocale() failed for 'ang_GB@latin'.
20141025 02:39:21< iceiceice> 20141024 22:38:57 warning general: setlocale() failed for 'ang_GB@latin'.
20141025 02:40:03< iceiceice> onlywith that language though it seems
20141025 02:40:22< gfgtdf> iceiceice: and that wasnt teh case before ?
20141025 02:40:31< iceiceice> i'm not sure
20141025 02:40:38< iceiceice> i'm going to try building 1.11.18 i guess
20141025 02:42:53< iceiceice> also, pentarctagon might not be running msgfmt i guess
20141025 02:43:40< iceiceice> loonycyborg: do you know if mingw works better / worse than others with ccache?
20141025 02:43:47< iceiceice> are windows object files bigger?
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20141025 02:48:17< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i tested and with the old code i also get warning general: setlocale() failed for, but it doesnt cause an exception
20141025 02:48:54< iceiceice> i dont get it with every language, i think it might not be the problem
20141025 02:50:47< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i think teh problem is that we jts add the .UTF-8 at the end
20141025 02:51:09< gfgtdf> iceiceice: for ecample if teh name is en_US we make it en_US.UTF-8
20141025 02:51:19< iceiceice> oh i see it
20141025 02:51:24< iceiceice> yeah that looks broken
20141025 02:51:33< gfgtdf> iceiceice: but the wron for ang_GB@latin, the correctl way is ang_GB.utf-8@latin
20141025 02:51:54< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i made teh same mistake in my code
20141025 02:52:06< gfgtdf> iceiceice: thats why teh application closes with an unhandled exception
20141025 02:52:25< gfgtdf> iceiceice: no wait
20141025 02:52:40< gfgtdf> iceiceice: maybe only i didnt it wrng and teh code in language.cpp not
20141025 02:53:03< iceiceice> at line 178, in 1.11.18 checkout i see code likethat
20141025 02:53:06< gfgtdf> iceiceice: eigher way its teh casue why with the new code it closes with these languages
20141025 02:53:11< iceiceice> oh
20141025 02:53:29< iceiceice> so wait is lang + encoding + extra code correct?
20141025 02:53:30< gfgtdf> s/didnt/did
20141025 02:53:45< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i think yes
20141025 02:54:20< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i took my information from here: http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_48_0/libs/locale/doc/html/namespaceboost_1_1locale_1_1util.html#a8322299021a4af3cdbb8b31e775e77f4
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20141025 02:56:58< travis-ci> gfgtdf/wesnoth-old#316 (gettext_reorder - 6fbfedf : gfgtdf): The build is still failing.
20141025 02:56:58< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/38990219
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20141025 02:57:56< iceiceice> i think the changes to gettext.hpp basically trigger a full rebuild, unfortunately
20141025 02:58:15< iceiceice> so it will probably take me quite a while for this build to finihs
20141025 02:58:34< iceiceice> hopefully i will get ccache populated before long...
20141025 03:04:27< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ok im confused again: it seems liek my tests faielwit the message "illegal tile in map" https://s3.amazonaws.com/archive.travis-ci.org/jobs/38990222/log.txt
20141025 03:05:06< iceiceice> for me it always gives those tile in map warnings
20141025 03:05:12< iceiceice> i dont think they make it fail
20141025 03:05:22< iceiceice> also the text is too big warnings are standard
20141025 03:06:03< iceiceice> i honestly have no idea what is going on there
20141025 03:06:43< gfgtdf> iceiceice: it lok lika an invlid utf8 in language.cpp
20141025 03:07:24< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i typed depüendency instead of dependeny
20141025 03:08:12< iceiceice> y i see now
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20141025 03:14:05< irker422> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 8e1e7841c8a0 / projectfiles/Xcode/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Xcode project update for 1.11.18 http://git.io/XhS7Eg
20141025 03:15:14< iceiceice> gfgtdf
20141025 03:15:17< iceiceice> this is wierd,
20141025 03:15:22< iceiceice> i build 1.11.18,
20141025 03:15:31< iceiceice> i dont get any imgaes or fonts with non-ascii path
20141025 03:15:35< iceiceice> but i do get the spanish text
20141025 03:15:52< iceiceice> and i can change it to german
20141025 03:16:41< gfgtdf> iceiceice: yes, that becasue in 1.11.x some our our functions (wml loading , text loading) understand windows ansi while others (SDL resource loading) only understand asci
20141025 03:17:13< gfgtdf> iceiceice: if you but even rarer characters in teh path it wont even start
20141025 03:17:14< iceiceice> but it means that the setlocale stuff and translation loading is right
20141025 03:17:29< iceiceice> i could bisect to see when it stopped working
20141025 03:18:04< gfgtdf> iceiceice: since we are already messing with this stull we want full uncode support for trnaslations
20141025 03:18:09< gfgtdf> iceiceice: which 1.11.x has not
20141025 03:18:22< iceiceice> let me try your path with zalgo
20141025 03:19:31< iceiceice> yeah you are right it crashse
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20141025 03:25:26< iceiceice> i have to say im confused though
20141025 03:25:34< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i remember you said something like i needed to change my languages.cpp target or something
20141025 03:25:44< iceiceice> is that in the scons script currently?
20141025 03:26:18< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i said you need to use gettext_boost.cpp instead of gettext.cpp
20141025 03:26:20< gfgtdf> iceiceice: no its not
20141025 03:26:22< iceiceice> or point to gettext_boost?
20141025 03:26:25< iceiceice> ok i didnt do that
20141025 03:27:41< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i updated again 
20141025 03:27:57< iceiceice> y i saw, i am building
20141025 03:28:35< gfgtdf> iceiceice: its just languages.cpp and filesystem_boost.cpp updated
20141025 03:29:25< iceiceice> i think if i have to change sconscript though it makes me rebuild
20141025 03:29:44< gfgtdf> iceiceice: idk about sconscript
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20141025 03:32:17< iceiceice> y if in your branch you replace the line gettext.cpp with gettext_boost.cpp, so i get fastforward, it will let me build fast your next update
20141025 03:32:33< iceiceice> i guess maybe i can guard it somehow idk
20141025 03:32:55< iceiceice> (in src/SConscript)
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20141025 03:51:27< iceiceice> gfgtdf: new branch fixes languages
20141025 03:51:36< iceiceice> with the a-áÇØßÜ dir
20141025 03:53:37< iceiceice> also with the zalgo:  a-(_͡°_͜ʖ_͡°)_Ä_¥_
20141025 03:54:00< iceiceice> the logo translation isnt working, thats all i can see atm
20141025 03:56:46< iceiceice> i guess all the image translation isn't working
20141025 03:56:58< iceiceice> but the text definitely is
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20141025 04:01:59< travis-ci> gfgtdf/wesnoth-old#317 (gettext_reorder - 67e3c42 : gfgtdf): The build was fixed.
20141025 04:01:59< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/38991818
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20141025 04:42:32< iceiceice> gfgtdf: also you should usually change sconscript when you add new files, because otherwise travis wont build them
20141025 04:42:48< irker422> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:1.12 f73a46e79976 / images/buttons/button_normal/ (4 files): Updated big button graphics by LordBob http://git.io/27dPaA
20141025 04:42:51< irker422> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master 70b953cbd3a2 / images/buttons/button_normal/ (4 files): Updated big button graphics by LordBob http://git.io/FK7O3w
20141025 04:43:15< irker422> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle website:master 2035bcfe16e8 / start/1.12/images/download.png: Update download button spritesheet with LordBob's updated graphics http://git.io/uYeD5Q
20141025 04:43:18< irker422> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle website:master 47cc506fcc86 / start/1.12/styles/westin.css: Use single solid RGB gradient for background instead of two RGBA gradients http://git.io/-vJ5pA
20141025 04:47:14< fendrin> Since when are the terrain overlays in the editor broken?
20141025 04:49:08< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i dont think the images not being translated is a windows issue, i reproduce on linux also
20141025 04:50:47< fendrin> iceiceice: gfgtdf changed something with how images are loaded? Maybe that is the cause for the non working editor feature.
20141025 04:50:59< iceiceice> no i dont think so
20141025 04:51:10< iceiceice> well ok, 
20141025 04:51:14< iceiceice> if you are playing on windows
20141025 04:51:16< iceiceice> with a nonascii path
20141025 04:51:19< iceiceice> then he changed something
20141025 04:51:29< iceiceice> with mingw compiler
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20141025 05:14:00< iceiceice> fendrin: i guess its not true, we did merge the whole boost filesystem branch, that changes how every file is loaded
20141025 05:14:06< iceiceice> that was about a week ago though
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20141025 05:31:51< shadowm> mattsc, fendrin, iceiceice, gfgtdf: The announcement draft is up: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=41134 . So, which if the must-fix bugs for 1.12.0 are fixed then?
20141025 05:31:55< shadowm> *which of
20141025 05:32:19< shadowm> Because according to the changelog, the answer is "none of them".
20141025 05:37:41< iceiceice> shadowm: i think the planning mode one is downgraded
20141025 05:37:48< iceiceice> after Coffee filled us in on the status
20141025 05:39:29< iceiceice> i didnt see what commits fabi made to 1.12, i saw a bunch on master recently...
20141025 05:40:24< iceiceice> did you fix the addon manager listbox? :p
20141025 05:41:03< iceiceice> i think the filesystem stuff may actually now be solved in its entirety,
20141025 05:41:12< iceiceice> the only problem i can still see is that images are not beign translated
20141025 05:41:31< iceiceice> but that actually was working in 1.11.10
20141025 05:41:40< iceiceice> so idk wtf happened, i am bisecting now
20141025 05:43:05< iceiceice> i think its possible that all remaining filesystem fixes wil be merged and backported very soon
20141025 05:43:11< iceiceice> unless someone finds more issues
20141025 05:45:40< iceiceice> i didnt look at bugtracker re SOS saves
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20141025 06:17:41< iceiceice> shadowm: i guess if no one posts here for a while, probably we will disabel mp SOS saves
20141025 06:17:43< iceiceice> https://gna.org/bugs/?22068
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20141025 10:36:45< gfgtdf> iceiceice: which images that shuld be translated do oyou mean ?
20141025 10:37:07< gfgtdf> iceiceice: als i think there is just no germen translation for the loadscreen image
20141025 10:42:42< iceiceice> gfgtdf there is for spanish for instance
20141025 10:42:50< iceiceice> als the map label son the title screen map
20141025 10:43:00< iceiceice> i didnt finish bisecting...
20141025 10:43:02< iceiceice> later
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20141025 11:08:22< gfgtdf> iceiceice: https://github.com/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/commit/249646b56c078ccbba31171fa778cab2da9f9cfa
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20141025 11:28:26< irker451> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 33becb610041 / src/playcampaign.cpp: dont always show mpconnect in debugmode in sp http://git.io/wf0srg
20141025 11:34:16< irker451> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 67378052587f / src/playcampaign.cpp: remove unneeded check http://git.io/NzMmYA
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20141025 12:43:32< Rhonda> gfgtdf, is that an abbreviation?
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20141025 12:52:44< loonycyborg> I keep misreading it as gtfo
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20141025 14:29:40< fendrin> hi mattsc
20141025 14:29:57< mattsc> hi fendrin 
20141025 14:31:47< fendrin> mattsc: thunderstruck (too bad he just left some minutes ago) is lookin into the LordBob's #8 and those things we thought related.
20141025 14:32:08< fendrin> s/#8/#7
20141025 14:32:33< mattsc> fendrin: (and you also mean the other Bob)  thanks, that’s great.
20141025 14:32:53< fendrin> oh yes s/LordBob/Bob The Mighty
20141025 14:33:12< fendrin> mattsc: I have not asked him about the second bug yet.
20141025 14:33:34< mattsc> remind me which one is the second
20141025 14:33:52< fendrin> mattsc: Do you still remember what went wrong? I think filling proper bug reports won't hurt.
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20141025 14:34:34< mattsc> you mean the gold being assigned to side when the same player controls more than one side?
20141025 14:34:57< fendrin> mattsc: I think that was going on: At the end of the scenario I was not presented the two sides I was in controll in but just the first two.
20141025 14:35:01< mattsc> *s/to side/to sides incoorectly
20141025 14:35:54< fendrin> mattsc: Better I would have seen my two sides (marked as played by me) and your (or any other player or persistent side) in the summary.
20141025 14:36:21< fendrin> mattsc: And like you said, at least the gold was mixed to the wrong side.
20141025 14:37:15< mattsc> fendrin: yeah, there were also two Kalenz’ and two Landars on the map, I don’t know if that’s related (or something in WML)
20141025 14:37:33< fendrin> mattsc: That is a different problem.
20141025 14:37:38< mattsc> ok
20141025 14:37:53< fendrin> mattsc: One that we can also talk about if you have time and patience.
20141025 14:39:27< mattsc> fendrin: well, what is there that I can actually help with  (and as you know, weekends are always frazzled time for more…)
20141025 14:39:32< mattsc> s/more/me
20141025 14:40:25< mattsc> fendrin: oh, before I forget on a completely different topic, you said at some point that you would give ‘lvl’ more space in the sidebar to help with translations
20141025 14:41:08< fendrin> mattsc: Do you know about the test scenario?
20141025 14:41:23< mattsc> yes
20141025 14:41:39< fendrin> mattsc: Can you start it right now?
20141025 14:42:26< mattsc> sure, for a few minutes
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20141025 14:42:56< iceiceice> gfgtdf: in 67378052587f21f6dfebf86fa39db434fded3bbe, there was also io_type "NONE" at some point,
20141025 14:43:01< iceiceice> did that get removed,
20141025 14:43:02< iceiceice> ?
20141025 14:43:02< fendrin> mattsc: Have a look at the unit at the location 8/11. The "UI testing Outrider".
20141025 14:43:03< mattsc> fendrin: okay, I’m in
20141025 14:43:32< mattsc> ok
20141025 14:43:49< gfgtdf> iceiceice: y by riftwalker during gsoc project
20141025 14:43:54< iceiceice> ok
20141025 14:43:56< fendrin> He is meant to give you the impression of a full used sidebar.
20141025 14:44:10< mattsc> indeed
20141025 14:44:21< iceiceice> i am trying to build your branch, will take some time
20141025 14:44:53< fendrin> Please note another bug, the status icons are no longer bringing up a toolkit. I think with poision and slowed this is really important.
20141025 14:45:29< mattsc> fendrin: I’m just repeating what one of the translators reported on the forums and you said that you’d look into it.
20141025 14:45:52< iceiceice> crap
20141025 14:45:52< mattsc> hmm, ok
20141025 14:45:58< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ?
20141025 14:46:02< iceiceice> it still doesn't have the gettext_boost, i have to start over T_T
20141025 14:46:10< fendrin> mattsc: s/toolkit/tooltip
20141025 14:46:18< mattsc> fendrin: right, I understood :)
20141025 14:46:23< fendrin> mattsc: Yes, the "lvl" thing does seem solvable.
20141025 14:46:47< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i dont knwo if i can just add it snce it migth raise boosr version to 1.48
20141025 14:46:59< iceiceice> ah i see
20141025 14:47:00< gfgtdf> iceiceice: and i also dot knwo if i woudl make teh "optional" correctly
20141025 14:47:15< fendrin> mattsc: I can still reduce the unit name (there is still more space than in the old gui) and allign the "lvl" with a slightly left move flag.
20141025 14:47:26< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i guess it should be controlled by the same flag as boost filesystem?
20141025 14:47:34< iceiceice> because thats already a flag in cmake and scons
20141025 14:47:39< mattsc> fendrin: yes, that sounds good
20141025 14:47:43< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i maybe taht is a good idea
20141025 14:48:15< mattsc> fendrin: I can dig out the forum post later if you fix it and send you the link.
20141025 14:48:29< fendrin> mattsc: yes, please do so.
20141025 14:48:34< mattsc> well, “improve” rather than “fix” I guess
20141025 14:50:21< fendrin> mattsc: Well, like with "HP", "XP",  "MP" and "def" we rely on translators finding short abbreviations.
20141025 14:50:34< gfgtdf> iceiceice: but boost filesystem just requires bost 1.44
20141025 14:51:52< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i think 1.48 is probably okay anyways, i think mattsc has 1.49 current in OSX (would have to check logs)
20141025 14:52:04< iceiceice> anyways no one in mailing list objected to raising master to 1.49 either
20141025 14:52:55< mattsc> fendrin: sure
20141025 14:53:16< iceiceice> do you think that boost filesystem can work properly without the gettext_boost ?
20141025 14:53:25< mattsc> iceiceice: I have 1.45 in 1.12 and 1.54 in master
20141025 14:53:51< mattsc> but the 1.45 libs don’t include boost_filesystem anyway, so one way or another I have to recompile it.
20141025 14:54:26< mattsc> the main complication is that I need to make them work with OS X 10.5 for release builds and I haven’t done that before, but I think I have instructions for that somewhere
20141025 14:54:59< gfgtdf> iceiceice: actualy i cannot test it becasue the transations never woked on my msvc buidl before teh boost locale patch, but i believe with boost filesystem + old gettext translations wont work in nonasci paths on windows
20141025 14:55:52< iceiceice> hmm, my normal clang build failed
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20141025 14:55:59< iceiceice> on gfgtdf/gettext_reorder
20141025 14:56:01< iceiceice> clang++ -o build/release/server/proxy.o -c -std=c++98 -W -Wall -Qunused-arguments -Wno-unknown-warning-option -O2 -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -D_X11 -Ibuild -Isrc -I/usr/include/SDL -I/usr/include src/server/proxy.cpp
20141025 14:56:01< iceiceice> build/release/libwesnoth_core.a(gettext_boost.o): In function `(anonymous namespace)::get_manager()':
20141025 14:56:01< iceiceice> src/gettext_boost.cpp:(.text+0xb9): undefined reference to `boost::locale::generator::generator()'
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20141025 14:56:30< gfgtdf> iceiceice: mabe you are missing the boost locale lib/dll ?
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20141025 14:57:23< iceiceice> y i am i guess
20141025 14:59:03< iceiceice> i think it might be soemthing with scons recipe...
20141025 15:04:20< gfgtdf> iceiceice: but actualy you also need the boost locale bibrary for fileystem_boost on windows
20141025 15:05:06< iceiceice> y i think i was compiling it in my compiled boost
20141025 15:05:12< iceiceice> but for normal builds i use system boost
20141025 15:05:23< iceiceice> i dont think i actually had lib-boost-all-dev, or it was updated
20141025 15:07:56< gfgtdf> iceiceice: so this is no crosscomile build ?
20141025 15:08:17< iceiceice> i decided to try just clang first
20141025 15:08:21< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ok
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20141025 15:18:10< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i think it just not linking in boost locale, its missing linker command
20141025 15:19:36< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hmm i think on windows you have 1 folder wher all boost libs aree and tehn ad teh folder to te linker command
20141025 15:19:48< gfgtdf> iceiceice: idk how it is on linux
20141025 15:25:27< iceiceice> gfgtdf
20141025 15:25:30< iceiceice> i think its a bug in sconscript,
20141025 15:25:36< iceiceice> currently it thinks we only need boost locale for windows
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20141025 15:25:50< iceiceice> im going to delete that part i guess
20141025 15:26:51< gfgtdf> iceiceice: y like i said before i didnt chnage sconscript yet becasue i didnt knwo wetehr i can raise boost version
20141025 15:27:07< iceiceice> y i see
20141025 15:28:45< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i also thought the thing that scons does with filesystem is just check whether its available and not add it to teh linkercommand.
20141025 15:29:35< iceiceice> yeah, but its skipping that if you arent on windows
20141025 15:29:41< iceiceice> so when i compile normal it doesnt link it
20141025 15:29:58< iceiceice> at least, we'll see if thats it i guess
20141025 15:30:23< gfgtdf> iceiceice: so conf.CheckBoost(...) also ads it to the lnker command manually ?
20141025 15:30:40< iceiceice> y if it finds it i think
20141025 15:30:56< iceiceice> im not sure
20141025 15:31:14< iceiceice> i dont remember now
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20141025 15:35:33< iceiceice> gfgtdf: in scons/boost.py i can see the answer is yes
20141025 15:36:43< iceiceice> ok its working now
20141025 15:36:46< iceiceice> and it looks good
20141025 15:36:55< iceiceice> i'm going to try mingw now
20141025 15:38:43< iceiceice> ok its working on mingw also
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20141025 16:01:45< mattsc> shadowm: the release notes look good to me; the LoW “critical bugs” can be removed; as for the other ones: what iceiceice said
20141025 16:01:45< gfgtdf> iceiceice: can you do the 'extract strings from source' cmake tool?
20141025 16:02:03< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i dont know what it is
20141025 16:02:18< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hm ok
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20141025 16:03:16< iceiceice> are there docs somewhere?
20141025 16:03:29< iceiceice> i guess you want to see if xgettext still works, right?
20141025 16:05:26< gfgtdf> iceiceice: yes
20141025 16:05:53< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i dotn knwo about docs how to rn teh cmake script
20141025 16:08:40< mattsc> shadowm: and yes, those changes should be in the changelog and they aren’t; that was an oversight, forgotten in the rush of getting things done before the release.
20141025 16:09:32< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i tried running "scons pot-update"
20141025 16:11:57< gfgtdf> iceiceice: did that work ?
20141025 16:12:13< iceiceice> how can i tell? XD
20141025 16:12:22< iceiceice> well
20141025 16:12:27< iceiceice> its like trying to update recors
20141025 16:12:36< iceiceice> for instance it crashed because of some editor help string
20141025 16:12:42< iceiceice> data/core/help.cfg
20141025 16:12:55< iceiceice> :242, there was \" inside a translatable string or something
20141025 16:12:59< gfgtdf> iceiceice: crashed :O
20141025 16:13:06< iceiceice> i fixed it and it continued
20141025 16:13:08< iceiceice> well it didnt crash
20141025 16:13:12< iceiceice> it just stopped and reported error
20141025 16:13:42< iceiceice> i got a warning like this also
20141025 16:13:43< iceiceice> WML seems invalid for data/gui/default/window/lobby_main.cfg, node info extraction forfeited past the error point at utils/wmlxgettext line 210.
20141025 16:17:27< iceiceice> ok i had to install something called asciidoc but i think its working...
20141025 16:33:00< iceiceice> gfgtdf: heres what happened when i did pot-update: https://github.com/cbeck88/wesnoth/commit/fe507dfc8c0dec2c71073f6b8fe026879cdd4983
20141025 16:35:11< gfgtdf> iceiceice: it seems like you just used teh wmlxgettext which extracts strings from wml files.
20141025 16:35:36< gfgtdf> iceiceice: (or there are just nor changes in teh cpp files in taht time)
20141025 16:37:36< iceiceice> i think it just didnt show all the files maybe?
20141025 16:37:43< iceiceice> i got changes in #wesnoth and #wesnoth-lib domains
20141025 16:38:49< iceiceice> i'll go back and run it again to see the comamnd string
20141025 16:40:19< gfgtdf> iceiceice: right teh github webpage seems not to be capable of all 1596 changed files
20141025 16:45:46< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ok to me it looks liek it all went wel
20141025 16:47:12< iceiceice> gfgtdf: heres pot-update log
20141025 16:47:13< iceiceice> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B54Q-3UjP5fiVjlRdzdKcE5tckE/view?usp=sharing
20141025 16:49:25< iceiceice> i see this line "Delete(["po/wesnoth/wesnoth.cpp.pot"])
20141025 16:49:25< iceiceice> "
20141025 16:49:38< iceiceice> but i didnt see yet anywhere its scanning the .cpp 
20141025 16:50:35< iceiceice> gfgtdf: maybe here:
20141025 16:50:36< iceiceice> xgettext --force-po --default-domain=wesnoth-lib --directory=. --add-comments=TRANSLATORS: --from-code=UTF-8 --sort-by-file --keyword=sgettext --keyword=vgettext --keyword=_n:1,2 --keyword=sngettext:1,2 --keyword=vngettext:1,2 --files-from=po/wesnoth-lib/POTFILES.in --copyright-holder='Wesnoth development team' --msgid-bugs-address=http://bugs.wesnoth.org/ --keyword=_ --keyword=N_ --output=po/wesnoth-lib/wesnoth-lib.cpp.pot ; sed -i s/c
20141025 16:50:36< iceiceice> harset=CHARSET/charset=UTF-8/ po/wesnoth-lib/wesnoth-lib.cpp.pot
20141025 16:51:41< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i also cannot find any traslatable strings in wesnoth.cpp
20141025 16:51:56< gfgtdf> iceiceice:  maybe there were some somehere eariler but they werer removed
20141025 16:53:25< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i added preferences menu recently for "Multiplayer Alerts", i can grep in po/ and find that
20141025 16:53:45< iceiceice> so i think it definitely found some new strings
20141025 17:03:30< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i go for lunch
20141025 17:03:36< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ok
20141025 17:04:00< iceiceice> i think the mingw stuff is fixed though, it tested quit a bit
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20141025 18:59:17< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i noticed some bugs on gettext_reorder branch,
20141025 18:59:32< iceiceice> if you change language to "Englisc", also to "Shavian English", a few others,
20141025 18:59:59< iceiceice> you crash with general exception: Invalid or unsupported charset:utf-8shaw
20141025 19:00:13< iceiceice> Invalid or unsupported charset:utf-8latin
20141025 19:00:15< iceiceice> etc.
20141025 19:00:26< thunderstruck> iceiceice: Do you know something about the use of "current_player" in MP?
20141025 19:00:58< iceiceice> thunderstruck: i know there was a very long thread about it here: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/278
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20141025 19:03:26< irker123> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 4f382ebc2ab0 / src/wesnoth.cpp: gracefully catch exceptions generated by changing the language http://git.io/ZPSc0w
20141025 19:03:26< irker123> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 807f4ead5fd4 / / (5 files in 2 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/x60siw
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20141025 19:05:27< thunderstruck> iceiceice: Looking at problems with current_player, I think in essence the issue is that it's used now for both id and a name of some side.
20141025 19:05:50< iceiceice> what is a player_id ?
20141025 19:05:57< iceiceice> player id ?
20141025 19:06:31< thunderstruck> I think it's the id of a player which is currently assigned to some side.
20141025 19:06:32< iceiceice> oh you mean like it becomes the id of the side?
20141025 19:07:13< thunderstruck> That code is very confussing. I should've changed these names when I was working on mp connect.
20141025 19:07:42< iceiceice> when you say the id of the player, it refers to their mp server login name?
20141025 19:07:56< thunderstruck> Yes,
20141025 19:08:15< thunderstruck> unless side is controlled by AI.
20141025 19:08:48< thunderstruck> iceiceice: And this is used only in mp connect.
20141025 19:09:06< iceiceice> hmm i see
20141025 19:09:17< thunderstruck> Later on, current_player represents the player which is actually playing some side.
20141025 19:09:33< iceiceice> i think i noticed this in save files long ago,
20141025 19:09:39< thunderstruck> But in mp connect, curret_player is the player who has some side reserved for him/her.
20141025 19:10:00< iceiceice> when i was trying to generate descriptions of replays for replays.w.o
20141025 19:10:13< iceiceice> theres a few options i guess how to do it, and current player is always the original player name?
20141025 19:10:20< iceiceice> i think thats what i am latching onto there
20141025 19:10:59< thunderstruck> Yeah, current_player should stay the same
20141025 19:14:13< thunderstruck> iceiceice: I think I'll try to introduce a new attribute current_player_id and use it in mp connect for reserved functionlity. This way, I won't need to do a lot of changes in other places.
20141025 19:14:43< thunderstruck> iceiceice: Are you aware of any problems that could cause
20141025 19:14:43< iceiceice> thunderstruck: i think actually the server is using "name" and not "current_player"
20141025 19:14:43< thunderstruck> ?
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20141025 19:16:41< iceiceice> thunderstruck: i'm pretty sure this si the code that the mp server uses to generate descriptions (including list of names) from a replay file
20141025 19:16:42< iceiceice> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B54Q-3UjP5fiaW83WC1JNWdCR2s/view?usp=sharing
20141025 19:19:00< thunderstruck> iceiceice: grep tells me that server looks for current_player in server/game.cpp
20141025 19:19:10< thunderstruck> And it looks like it compares to it user name.
20141025 19:19:15< iceiceice> thats something else
20141025 19:19:21< iceiceice> oh 
20141025 19:20:35< thunderstruck> So?
20141025 19:21:08< c74d> iceiceice: I believe the “charset” for Shavian English is supposed to be “utf-8@shaw” or something like that, so I’d expect that something is forgetting to add the “@” when it concatenates “utf-8” and “shaw”.
20141025 19:21:26< iceiceice> i would have to look at the server code again to make sense of this, i don't remember if the server-side sides list really means the same thing as the side tags on client side
20141025 19:21:29< iceiceice> thunderstruck: ^
20141025 19:22:50< thunderstruck> iceiceice: The point I'm trying to make here is that, current_player is not supposed to be an id. I don't know that code well, but to me it looks like in some cases server would compare a name with an id.
20141025 19:23:18< iceiceice> thunderstruck: i think the mp server logins are essentially ids
20141025 19:23:26< thunderstruck> What about AI?
20141025 19:23:27< iceiceice> i mean what else could the server use for an id
20141025 19:23:34< iceiceice> the server has a controller type enum i think
20141025 19:23:40< iceiceice> to indicate that
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20141025 19:24:09< iceiceice> i mean, the mp server logins are never translated
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20141025 19:24:13< iceiceice> so it seems suitable for an id
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20141025 19:25:45< thunderstruck> iceiceice: Okay. So maybe server-side is fine. Although this whole thing is too confussing.
20141025 19:25:56< mattsc> thunderstruck, iceiceice: I don’t have time to read everything you typed carefully right now, but when when fendrin and I did some test of MP LoW, there were also problems when several sides were assigned to the same player.  I don’t know if that’s related or relevant, so take it for what it’s worth (feel free to ignore it for now).
20141025 19:26:16< iceiceice> mattsc: that sounds bad
20141025 19:26:27< iceiceice> i thouht i fixed all of those, a year ago...
20141025 19:26:44< thunderstruck> I think there's something which I overlooked.
20141025 19:26:45< iceiceice> thunderstruck: i think you might be right, 
20141025 19:26:51< mattsc> fendrin and I are going to do some more tests and put together a real bug report once we know exactly what’s going on.  We didn’t enough enough time for that yesterday.
20141025 19:26:54< thunderstruck> Maybe this current_player thing is the root of many problems here.
20141025 19:27:11< iceiceice> it looks like at the "take_side" part is looking directly at the game config of the game
20141025 19:27:36< iceiceice> i.e. get_sides_list returns all [side] children of whatever config mp connect is generating
20141025 19:28:01< iceiceice> it might be best if you figure out how you want mp connect to work, and with respect to the clients,
20141025 19:28:06< iceiceice> and then we fix the server code to work around that
20141025 19:28:30< iceiceice> but i dont think its a big problem about using current_player for an id, even with ai's,
20141025 19:28:41< iceiceice> because [side] controller attribute will always indicate if its ai or not
20141025 19:28:47< iceiceice> and the server essentially mirrors that
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20141025 19:34:47< thunderstruck> iceiceice: Maybe. But I don't think anything about current_player/player_id changed at server-side. So if I introduce a new attribute just for id and just for mp connect, server-side might not need any changes at all.
20141025 19:34:56< thunderstruck> But I have to dig in deeper to be sure.
20141025 19:37:01< iceiceice> thunderstruck: in 1.11.8 or something, i did cahnge much of the code that figures out about controllers
20141025 19:37:15< iceiceice> because our setup routine was really bizarre,
20141025 19:37:25< iceiceice> mp connect would generate some settings,
20141025 19:37:30< iceiceice> then the server would relay them,
20141025 19:37:39< iceiceice> then some code in playcampaign would start "tweaking" the controller types
20141025 19:37:45< iceiceice> to avoid bugs of various kinds
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20141025 19:38:07< iceiceice> soliton said that that was bad, and instead the server should orchestrate any such "tweaks"
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20141025 19:38:24< iceiceice> that code is now in server/game.cpp somewhere,
20141025 19:38:27< iceiceice> it is definitely new in 1.11
20141025 19:40:22< iceiceice> yeah so in "game::perform_controller_tweaks()"
20141025 19:40:31< iceiceice> this basically runs after mp connect has finished,
20141025 19:40:36< iceiceice> but well before preload i guess,
20141025 19:40:53< iceiceice> i guess basically it runs right after the host clicks "start game"
20141025 19:41:16< iceiceice> but before (and just before) the clients recieve the [start_game] signal relay
20141025 19:41:26< iceiceice> what it does is,
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20141025 19:42:43< iceiceice> it basically resolves the controller types that mp connect uses, into the types that the rest of the game (team.cpp) uses
20141025 19:42:59< iceiceice> so "reserved" gets handled, and "ai" gets handled
20141025 19:43:17< iceiceice> it makes sure that every play name resolves to a player that the server actually knows about,
20141025 19:43:28< iceiceice> and then it runs the server-side "change_controller" for every side in the game,
20141025 19:43:36< iceiceice> which will relay appropriate update messages for every connected client
20141025 19:44:22< iceiceice> (ie.  if its telling me i own the side, it becomes "human", if its tellign me someone else owns it it becomes "network" )
20141025 19:47:26< iceiceice> thunderstruck: why do you want to add a new id? i thought you were saying current_player is already only used by mp_connect
20141025 19:47:31< iceiceice> *new attribute
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20141025 20:03:43< gfgtdf> iceiceice: pushed a fix
20141025 20:06:25< iceiceice> gfgtdf: ok its working now
20141025 20:06:56< gfgtdf> iceiceice: you see any reason against merging in its current form ?
20141025 20:07:20< iceiceice> no
20141025 20:07:30< iceiceice> i will try to fix SCons stuff after you do
20141025 20:07:50< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ok ty
20141025 20:08:39< iceiceice> hmm
20141025 20:08:44< iceiceice> i guess also i can try to build with boost 1.44
20141025 20:08:47< iceiceice> and see what happens
20141025 20:09:13< iceiceice> i guess its not too important thoguh
20141025 20:09:27< iceiceice> its clear that "gettext_boost.cpp" requries boost 1.48 right?
20141025 20:10:32< gfgtdf> iceiceice: yes we use boost::loacle and accodring to this page http://www.boost.org/users/history/ it was introduced in 1.48
20141025 20:20:00< iceiceice> gfgtdf: do you think that only windows should be using gettext_boost and filesystem_boost?
20141025 20:20:03< iceiceice> or now all the platforms
20141025 20:20:23< iceiceice> if they have the "boost filesystem" checked
20141025 20:20:47< iceiceice> i think it should be enabled for all unless they turn it off
20141025 20:20:58< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i dnt care taht much for gettext_boost, but for filesystem all plattforms that have eth required boost version shoudl use it i think.
20141025 20:23:03< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i doubt that we will need to chenge gettext(_boost).cpp  that often, so we can still maintine both for quiet some time, but that might be differnt for filesystem(_boost).cpp
20141025 20:24:09< gfgtdf> iceiceice: both = gettext.cpp adn gettext_boost.cpp
20141025 20:24:12< gfgtdf> and*
20141025 20:25:33< iceiceice> yeah i see
20141025 20:25:41< iceiceice> ok i see no reason not to merge
20141025 20:26:16< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ok let me wait for travis
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20141025 20:26:56< iceiceice> i guess u could rebase the commits that dont compile
20141025 20:27:16< iceiceice> it might be messy though idk
20141025 20:32:03< gfgtdf> iceiceice: 1.12 is planned for in 1 week ?
20141025 20:32:42< iceiceice> i think so
20141025 20:34:55< gfgtdf> iceiceice: you knwo whether there are any plans to put the filesystem_boost into 1.12 or 12.1 ?
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20141025 20:36:21< iceiceice> i think we want to backport to 1.12
20141025 20:36:35< iceiceice> actually depending on how things go i would maybe advocate having an RC3
20141025 20:36:46< iceiceice> but i guess we want to be in debian stable
20141025 20:37:09< iceiceice> RC2 was a bit weird, as shadowm pointed out we didnt fix any mustfix bugs in it
20141025 20:37:52< iceiceice> we mainly just fixed the move_unit thing
20141025 20:38:02< gfgtdf> iceiceice: any reason why you didnt merge https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/307 in.
20141025 20:38:25< iceiceice> just waiting i guess
20141025 20:38:27< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hm y the move_unit thing was a one line fix.
20141025 20:39:12< iceiceice> i dont think it matters that much whether we call it RC3 or 1.12.0
20141025 20:39:23< iceiceice> ultimately everyone will probably be using 1.12.4 or something
20141025 20:41:16< iceiceice> loonycyborg: do you also get this when you run wesnoth in wine?
20141025 20:41:27< iceiceice> "fixme:uniscribe:GSUB_apply_ChainContextSubst   TODO: subtype 2 (Class-based Chaining Context Glyph Substitution)"
20141025 20:41:33< iceiceice> i get it hundreds of times
20141025 20:41:39< iceiceice> i cant find any info online
20141025 20:42:54< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i guess we should make a list of everything we think was fixed,
20141025 20:43:07< gfgtdf> iceiceice: in 1.12 you mean ?
20141025 20:43:13< iceiceice> i mean on windos
20141025 20:43:25< iceiceice> and post so people like pent have some idea what was changed
20141025 20:44:08< iceiceice> so what should work now, unicode in game directory path, unicode in savegame filenames, unicode in images / sdl loaded resources, windows clipboard,
20141025 20:44:17< iceiceice> translations
20141025 20:44:32< iceiceice> translated images
20141025 20:44:36< iceiceice> lua
20141025 20:45:46< gfgtdf> iceiceice: what i still wonder about is this: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/d126081ff35dcef6b40ae0ef5c4ca8f1104fc5d9/src/font.cpp#L350
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20141025 20:46:32< gfgtdf> iceiceice: it seems liek for FT_FONT we only load fonts from game_config::path + "/fonts and for win32fonts we load font fron all binary paths
20141025 20:47:07< iceiceice> what does get_binary_paths do?
20141025 20:47:58< gfgtdf> iceiceice: 'all binary paths' esepcialy implies umcs, get_binary_paths is relates to [binary_path] WML
20141025 20:48:33< gfgtdf> iceiceice: it checks all paths that were set with [binare_path] and the game_config directory
20141025 20:48:44< iceiceice> i see
20141025 20:49:06< iceiceice> gfgtdf: there is some known bug int he release notes draft for 1.11.18,
20141025 20:49:22< iceiceice> that cleartype fonts look like ass on windows for some reason,
20141025 20:49:28< iceiceice> it might be a workaround for this?
20141025 20:49:36< iceiceice> so addons can put their own font or something?
20141025 20:50:06< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i dont think soit also in teh 1,10 branch
20141025 20:51:53< iceiceice> hmm i guess i would ask shadowm, loonycyborg if they think its a bug
20141025 20:53:00< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i beleive it useful for umc to add their own font. Since relyin on the OS plattform  fonts is not very plattform compatilbe
20141025 20:54:07< iceiceice> yeah i agree
20141025 20:54:24< irker123> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master c5cf6992108a / src/ (18 files in 4 dirs): reorder gettext.hpp http://git.io/Qc9O1w
20141025 20:54:26< irker123> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 9742c9cb544e / src/ (10 files in 4 dirs): make gettext.hpp return std::string. http://git.io/S1J8_w
20141025 20:54:28< irker123> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master c4e2c4bf5194 / src/ (gettext.cpp gettext.hpp gettext_boost.cpp language.cpp): use boost locale gettext http://git.io/5CZNTg
20141025 20:54:30< irker123> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 2fee9e2522cd / src/gettext.hpp: fix unused warnings. http://git.io/y-9VNA
20141025 20:54:32< irker123> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 9c799b9a47f8 / src/ (gettext.cpp gettext.hpp gettext_boost.cpp language.cpp): fix compilation http://git.io/jk8gQw
20141025 20:54:34< irker123> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 588c008890ba / src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): fix comilation http://git.io/ZLRPBg
20141025 20:54:36< irker123> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 4fc236822980 / src/gettext_boost.cpp: fix gettext_boost.cpp http://git.io/vCEr4A
20141025 20:54:38< irker123> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master fed433d82994 / src/image.cpp: fix image translations http://git.io/-gcDLQ
20141025 20:54:40< irker123> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master e723de7be3ec / src/ (27 files in 7 dirs): Merge pull request #311 from gfgtdf/gettext_reorder http://git.io/PKzLrA
20141025 20:54:45< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ^
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20141025 21:03:35< shadowm> mattsc, fabi: In that case, could we get the changelog fixed anyway?
20141025 21:04:33< shadowm> iceiceice: I didn't change anything about how fonts are loaded, only how they are rendered, so I don't really know about your issue.
20141025 21:05:12< mattsc> shadowm: yes, I was going to ask fabi that too when he gets back.  I’d prefer he do it since he knows exactly what he fixed, but I can also if he doesn’t have time.
20141025 21:05:12< iceiceice> shadowm: the issue is that right now, windows searches more directories
20141025 21:05:20< thunderstruck> iceiceice: I said that player_id is only used by mp connect
20141025 21:05:34< thunderstruck> current_player is used in other places
20141025 21:05:38< thunderstruck> or contexts
20141025 21:05:47< shadowm> iceiceice: Yes, but again, I don't know anything about that.
20141025 21:06:23< iceiceice> ok, i guess its probably not a bug
20141025 21:06:34< shadowm> !commit cdab0f2e842a68acea9227c87783d11ce8f4d23a @ iceiceice
20141025 21:06:35< shikadibot> iceiceice: Revision cdab0f2e842a (Ignacio R. Morelle) on Sat Feb 22 09:08:01 2014:
20141025 21:06:38< shikadibot> iceiceice: Force grayscale font AA with Cairo on Windows (bug #21648)
20141025 21:06:41< shikadibot> iceiceice:  
20141025 21:06:43< shikadibot> iceiceice: Cairo on Windows (at least the latest available version from gtk.org
20141025 21:06:46< iceiceice> thunderstruck: i think i didn't even know about player_ids
20141025 21:06:47< shadowm> Here's my commit so you can see that it doesn't change anything about font loading.
20141025 21:06:47< shikadibot> iceiceice: (+5 discarded lines)
20141025 21:06:49< shikadibot> iceiceice: Web interface URL: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/cdab0f2e842a
20141025 21:06:54< iceiceice> shadowm: thanks, i saw it ealier
20141025 21:06:56< iceiceice> *earlier
20141025 21:11:49< shadowm> mattsc: Okay, so should I move all the LoW bugs to a section of their own in the announcement and mention they are fixed then?
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20141025 21:14:01< mattsc> shadowm: I think that’s a good idea
20141025 21:15:50< shadowm> Also mark them as Fixed in the bug tracker, which hasn't happened yet.
20141025 21:16:09< mattsc> right, I was just about to see if that had been done
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20141025 21:22:37< mattsc> shadowm: #22073 is really two separate bugs; the part relevant for 1.12 is fixed, but the one mentioned in the title is 1.13 only, so the report should not be marked as fixed yet
20141025 21:23:16< mattsc> #21941 can be marked as fixed
20141025 21:24:12< mattsc> There was also another feature request, https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16600 , which is fixed by the rebalancing of LoW S14.  I marked that as fixed a couple days ago already.
20141025 21:25:20< mattsc> shadowm: fabi also fixed quite a few more bugs that had not been previously reported.  SP should now be working pretty well (but I will do another quick run through all scenarios over the next few days).
20141025 21:26:12< mattsc> LoW MP still has a whole bunch of issue, but some of them are general MP campaign bugs (as opposed to LoW specific) with fabi, thunderstruck, iceiceice and others stll working on them.
20141025 21:26:53< mattsc> I don’t know how much detail you want to go into.
20141025 21:27:02< mattsc> in the R-N, I mean
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20141025 21:32:39< shadowm> As much as necessary to not make it look like RC 2 didn't fix aynthing.
20141025 21:35:55< mattsc> would you like me to try to compile a list?
20141025 21:36:14< shadowm> Sure, I'm busy with other stuff right now.
20141025 21:36:28< mattsc> I was hoping that fabi would be back to do it, but I don’t know when he will be and I need to leave in about 3 hours and will not be back tiull tomorrow then
20141025 21:36:41< mattsc> okay, let me go throug the commits
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20141025 21:48:21< mattsc> shadowm, fabi:  http://pastebin.com/gfQwegzM
20141025 21:48:36< mattsc> shadowm: I did not worry about wording, you are much better with that than I am
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20141025 21:49:17< mattsc> fabi: it would be good if you could have a quick look over that when you are back and let us know if anything is missing or incorrect
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20141025 21:49:41< mattsc> hi fabi: I pinged you seconds before you got back online
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20141025 21:50:23< fabi> mattsc: hi
20141025 21:51:04< mattsc> fabi: does that look good for the 1.11.18 release notes (pending wording changes by shadowm)? http://pastebin.com/gfQwegzM
20141025 21:51:49< mattsc> fabi: Is there anything that should be added (LoW or otherwise)?
20141025 21:52:01< iceiceice> gfgdf: do you think we can just merge to 1.12 directly?
20141025 21:52:08< iceiceice> or do we need to make 1.12_pandora branch first
20141025 21:52:16< iceiceice> shadowm: ^
20141025 21:52:43< iceiceice> i'm trying to set up cmake and scons to use the "boost filesystem" option to toggle the new code,
20141025 21:53:04< iceiceice> right now it only toggles gettext_boost vs gettext and filesystem_boost vs filesystem
20141025 21:53:12< iceiceice> is there anything else that needs to be toggled?
20141025 22:00:42< loonycyborg> iceiceice: yes I get uniscribe warnings
20141025 22:00:48< loonycyborg> from my experience
20141025 22:01:00< fabi> mattsc: No, that is fine. The Olurf not appearing stuff is still not finally solved.
20141025 22:01:01< loonycyborg> new warnings constantly appear and disappear
20141025 22:01:08< loonycyborg> between wine versions
20141025 22:01:19< loonycyborg> as they constantly are adding and fixing stuff
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20141025 22:01:45< mattsc> fabi: oh, I thought you had said that he now always appears at the end of the scenario and that that fixes the issue.  I must have misunderstood that.
20141025 22:01:48< loonycyborg> I even had a problem with some game once
20141025 22:01:54< loonycyborg> it ran too slow in wine
20141025 22:02:03< loonycyborg> just due to sheer volume of warnings
20141025 22:02:11< loonycyborg> disabling them fixed slowness :P
20141025 22:02:17< iceiceice> thats nice
20141025 22:02:31< iceiceice> do you also get this issue with hexes not being cleared properly when a unit moves sometimes?
20141025 22:02:38< fabi> mattsc: Yes, what you describe is the plan. I am not sure if it really happens that way. Currently Olurf is not appearing at all iirc.
20141025 22:02:50< iceiceice> like when drakes fly around the tips of their wings which extend beyond hex border dont get undrawn it seems
20141025 22:03:15< mattsc> fabi: alright.  I’ll hopefully get to that scenario in a couple days and will check it out
20141025 22:03:38< iceiceice> loonycyborg: i also still get this stuff hwen i link, http://pastebin.com/s971AFQm
20141025 22:03:47< fabi> mattsc: It is a prose problem.
20141025 22:03:52< iceiceice> i am wondering if maybe i should compare the command lines for boost with -sZLIB... option
20141025 22:03:54< iceiceice> and what scons has
20141025 22:04:05< iceiceice> and maybe try to backport those zLIB, bZIP options,
20141025 22:04:20< loonycyborg> iceiceice: I'm getting those too in win7 vm
20141025 22:04:23< iceiceice> or make it search "prefix" with higher priority
20141025 22:04:31< mattsc> fabi: yeah, that’s what I got out of the bug report; and that’s a problem with the string freeze, of course.
20141025 22:04:32< loonycyborg> no idea what exactly they're about
20141025 22:04:45< iceiceice> the link errors or graphics glitches
20141025 22:04:55< fabi> mattsc: And a matter of side coding and persistence. Currently I think about removing the chapters and just allow to start at scenario1.
20141025 22:04:56< loonycyborg> link warnings
20141025 22:04:59< iceiceice> ok
20141025 22:05:04< fabi> mattsc: That will solve a lot of problems.
20141025 22:05:04< loonycyborg> they don't prevent compiles for me
20141025 22:05:20< mattsc> fabi: okay - no objection from my side
20141025 22:05:21< loonycyborg> I was getting them on several versions of mingw too in the past
20141025 22:05:29< loonycyborg> didn't get on others
20141025 22:05:32< loonycyborg> kinda weird
20141025 22:06:06< iceiceice> i assume that its linking with my system version instead of the version used with boost or seomthing?
20141025 22:06:16< fabi> mattsc: Yes, but I fear that the "we are going back to the lobby and search for a new player" is bound to a new chapter. Thus removing the chapters leads to the problem of unassigned players.
20141025 22:06:36< mattsc> I see ...
20141025 22:06:55< iceiceice> actually now that i look again at the message i have no idea
20141025 22:07:07< fabi> thunderstruck: ping
20141025 22:11:28< thunderstruck> fabi: pong
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20141025 22:12:48< iceiceice> loonycyborg: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11635485/regex-boost-library-linking-in-release-mode-warns-duplicate-section-has-differe
20141025 22:14:20< iceiceice> also this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14181351/i-got-duplicate-section-errors-when-compiling-boost-regex-with-size-optimizati
20141025 22:14:29< iceiceice> so turning off a gcc optimization can make those go away?
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20141025 22:15:03< loonycyborg> never tried
20141025 22:16:37< iceiceice> y i'm not going to worry about it i guess
20141025 22:16:39< mattsc> fabi: one more quick question, do you think LordBob could still do something about this?  https://gna.org/bugs/?22844
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20141025 22:19:17< fabi> mattsc: I just ask him.
20141025 22:19:49< fabi> mattsc: I am already waiting for a response to my request for a falcon race icon.
20141025 22:20:02< mattsc> fabi: thanks
20141025 22:20:20< mattsc> fabi: and while we’re at it: “2. I can't see frozen listed on the terrains when viewing the in-game unit description.”
20141025 22:20:31< mattsc> is that something you know something about?
20141025 22:20:38< fabi> mattsc: Yes, sure.
20141025 22:21:00< iceiceice> mattsc: i think if you use :discover you will
20141025 22:21:10< iceiceice> but if theres no frozen on the map then probabl yyou wont get it in the unit description
20141025 22:21:13< fabi> mattsc: The terrain table is taken from the map you currently play on. Terrain you don't have on the table won't be shown to you.
20141025 22:21:31< iceiceice> mattsc: you can also try this,
20141025 22:21:38< iceiceice> if you boot up wesnoth and immediately click help,
20141025 22:21:43< iceiceice> you wont get any terrain info at all
20141025 22:21:50< mattsc> fabi: ah, okay; right, I should have know that, but since I almost always play in debug mode, I’m missing things like that …  :P
20141025 22:21:59< mattsc> also iceiceice ^
20141025 22:22:01< mattsc> thanks
20141025 22:22:25< mattsc> As in, I know about this in principle, but tend to forget  :)
20141025 22:22:32< fabi> mattsc: No, this is not bound to debug mode. It is not a matter of having the discovered. It is a matter of maps just not featuring the terrain in question.
20141025 22:23:26< mattsc> fabi: I just brought up S1 of HttT in debug mode, and frozen is definitely listed
20141025 22:25:23< fabi> mattsc: Ah, this is new to me. Maybe the behaviour changed. I guess someone changed the help browser coding.
20141025 22:25:39< mattsc> ah, but it is also if I do not use debug mode; hmm
20141025 22:26:01< mattsc> does it matter maybe whether it’s used anywhere in the campaign, not just on the current map?
20141025 22:26:10< fabi> could be
20141025 22:27:38< mattsc> well, either way it sounds like that point above is not a bug  (it’s another one on Bob the Mighty’s list; currently going through the comments on the 1.11.16 and 1.11.17 release announcements)
20141025 22:28:35< fabi> mattsc: There is another thing I noticed. In the editor every tool that uses the terrain palette and thus terrain overlays in the hex cursor is broken. The overlay is just not drawn.
20141025 22:29:07< mattsc> fabi: will you be looking into that?
20141025 22:29:47< fabi> mattsc: I have already looked into the editor code. But it seems to be a problem deeper down. I guess it is caused by some changes of how images are loaded.
20141025 22:31:20< fabi> mattsc: The old editor would be broken by this bug because you can not tell anymore which terrain is selected. The new one is not that much broken, there is now a big tooltip at the button informing about the selected stuff.
20141025 22:31:36< fabi> mattsc: Thus I suggest to delay this till afte the release.
20141025 22:31:57< mattsc> fabi: okay, sounds good
20141025 22:33:12< mattsc> I have one of those on my own list as well, figuring out why the guardians are suddenly slowiong down the AI so much more, but I just won’t be able to look into that before 1.12.0 any more
20141025 22:34:33< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i actualy dont knwo what teh easiest merging strategy woudl be: we have differnt options 1) try to merge the pr from master, 2) try ot merge from ais branch, 3) redo the changes by hand.
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20141025 22:35:01< iceiceice> i would just try to merge my filesystem rename branch to 1.12
20141025 22:35:04< iceiceice> then cherry-pick in succession
20141025 22:35:17< iceiceice> since we also want ally our clipboard fixes and such
20141025 22:35:38< iceiceice> *all your
20141025 22:36:01< gfgtdf> y in any case first mering your filesystn ranem branch is teh easierst i think
20141025 22:36:08< thunderstruck> mattsc: How do you launch wesnothd under OS X?
20141025 22:36:32< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i guess i might go to my part 1 branch, and make a branch off that?
20141025 22:36:36< iceiceice> and experiment with the cherry-picking?
20141025 22:36:39< iceiceice> and see if it goes well?
20141025 22:37:26< iceiceice> also do you want to wait to let pent test and tell us if everything is broken? :p
20141025 22:38:00< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hmm i actualy dont think your part 1 branch does anything bad to 1.12 since it's just a renaming.
20141025 22:38:10< iceiceice> yeah thats true
20141025 22:38:21< gfgtdf> iceiceice: for pent to tst we most llely need to update teh sconsfiel first
20141025 22:38:27< iceiceice> yeah im testing that now :p
20141025 22:38:41< iceiceice> it worked on mingw, i'm checking clang strict also
20141025 22:39:58< mattsc> thunderstruck: go in the application directory and start from the CL?
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20141025 22:42:06< iceiceice> shadowm: i think its okay that we didn't fix many bugs for 1.11.18,
20141025 22:42:16< iceiceice> we can treat it as like a hot fix release for the move unit bug
20141025 22:43:39< iceiceice> i think the truth is that any of those must fix bugs would have been pretty hard to fix in a week
20141025 22:47:27< thunderstruck> mattsc: How can I find that directory?
20141025 22:47:51< mattsc> thunderstruck:  for your Xcode builds?
20141025 22:48:42< thunderstruck> mattsc: Nevermind. I just realised that I can switch targets in Xcode.
20141025 22:48:57< mattsc> thunderstruck: okay, that works too ...
20141025 22:48:59< thunderstruck> However, I get "dyld: Library not loaded: @rpath/SDL.framework/Versions/A/SDL" when I try to run wesnothd.
20141025 22:49:21< mattsc> thunderstruck: yes, I’m about to fix a commit that fixes that
20141025 22:49:25< mattsc> give me about 2 minutes
20141025 22:50:48< irker123> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 b228f0002a20 / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Xcode project: add 'Runpath Search Path" for wesnothd http://git.io/jfm_lg
20141025 22:51:00< mattsc> thunderstruck: try again with that ^
20141025 22:51:09< thunderstruck> I will. Thanks.
20141025 22:51:36< mattsc> you might get a fifo socket error now, I am not sure how important that is ...
20141025 22:51:48< mattsc> and maybe it can be fixed simply by creating that directory ...
20141025 22:52:27< mattsc> I get that error, but wesnothd seems to run anyway
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20141025 22:52:43< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/gfgtdf/wesnoth-old/builds/39042862
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20141025 22:53:23< thunderstruck> mattsc: I was getting socket error on Linux and it didn't cause me any problems
20141025 22:54:07< thunderstruck> mattsc: I pulled this fixed, but I still get the same problem. Am I supposed to do something to let Xcode know that something got updated?
20141025 22:54:49< irker123> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master bdd109ebcb8b / / (6 files in 2 dirs): Fixup boost filesystem options for cmake, scons http://git.io/TOEHEg
20141025 22:54:59< iceiceice> gfgtdf: ^
20141025 22:55:27 * thunderstruck wishes that he could use linux right now
20141025 22:56:21< gfgtdf> iceiceice: look good :)
20141025 22:56:42< mattsc> thunderstruck: to you build again?  should only take a couple seconds
20141025 22:56:50< mattsc> s/to/did
20141025 22:57:47< thunderstruck> mattsc: I did clean & build, but it didn't help
20141025 22:58:08< mattsc> thunderstruck: could you try from the CL … ?
20141025 22:58:27< mattsc> cd ~/Library/Developer/Xcode/DerivedData/Wesnoth-fbouojsmvdlgyggskrowxdeetbuv/Build/Products/Debug/Wesnoth.app/Contents/MacOS/
20141025 22:58:44< mattsc> that horrible long dir will be different, but the rest should be the same or similar
20141025 22:58:50< mattsc> then ./wesnothd
20141025 22:59:10< mattsc> and just to be sure, you’re on the 1.12 branch, right?
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20141025 23:00:06< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/39044243
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20141025 23:09:18< irker123> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 48217f8da0a0 / .travis.yml: add boost locale to travis http://git.io/R2NGoA
20141025 23:10:08< shadowm> iceiceice: Please reformulate your pandora branch question with additional information for me, since I've been busy and AFAIK the BFS work hasn't even been merged into 1.12 yet.
20141025 23:10:23< shadowm> mattsc: Sure, okay.
20141025 23:10:54< iceiceice> shadowm: i remember we had discussed multiple options to isolate BFS from pandora
20141025 23:11:10< iceiceice> (1) make a pandora branch, then merge / revert things
20141025 23:11:13< iceiceice> (2) use ifdefs
20141025 23:11:27< iceiceice> what we have right now, extending AI0867s commits,
20141025 23:11:39< iceiceice> is actually scons / cmake options for "enable boost filesystem"
20141025 23:11:52< iceiceice> i guess that's kind of like #ifdefs
20141025 23:12:42 * shadowm chokes on a comma-terminated sentence and dies.
20141025 23:12:58< shadowm> bbl, food.
20141025 23:13:04< iceiceice> shadowm, in case you haven't noticed, i tend not to think in terms of complete sentences,
20141025 23:13:19< iceiceice> i tend to think in terms of, a point or issue at a time
20141025 23:17:33< shadowm> That's confusing for me because I don't always know when you've finished explaining a point and have to wait longer before replying.
20141025 23:17:50< shadowm> Or even worse, get the wrong idea halfway through.
20141025 23:19:21< shadowm> So if you have scons/cmake options then you necessarily have #ifdefs and I'd assume the branch is not required; you'll just need to instruct Ivanovic to adjust his OpenPandora build script accordingly.
20141025 23:19:49< gfgtdf> shadowm: no we dot have ifdefs
20141025 23:20:03< shadowm> Okay... what do the options do then?
20141025 23:20:08< gfgtdf> iceiceice: at lest not in eth code
20141025 23:20:14< gfgtdf> least*
20141025 23:20:21< gfgtdf> s/iceiceice/shadowm
20141025 23:20:55< gfgtdf> shadowm: scons is eogher using teh file filesystem.cpp or filesytem_boost.cpp to implement the function declared in filesysten.hpp
20141025 23:20:56< shadowm> Substituting the source file name that provides the implementation to a set of symbols used elsewhere counts as a metaphorical #ifdef, by the way.
20141025 23:21:18< shadowm> Yep, metaphorical #ifdef all right.
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20141025 23:22:57< iceiceice> shadowm: i think im just going to make it so that "ENABLE_PANDORA" overrides the "ENABLE BFS" option and sets it to false
20141025 23:23:02< iceiceice> so he doesnt have to change anything
20141025 23:23:13< shadowm> Even better then!
20141025 23:23:32< shadowm> At least until Pandora gets the required libraries/versions.
20141025 23:23:44< iceiceice> yeah , a similar thing is done for lib vorbis i guess
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20141025 23:24:07< irker123> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 419f154f4248 / CMakeLists.txt src/CMakeLists.txt: in cmake, make PANDORA option force the BFS option to false http://git.io/iLbG9A
20141025 23:24:18< andrius> mattsc: Yes, I'm on 1.12. I get the same problem doing this from CL.
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20141025 23:24:42< gfgtdf> iceiceice: but note that  we currently have no swicth for teh SDL_mixer 1.2.12 dependency
20141025 23:25:23< iceiceice> hmm
20141025 23:25:28< andrius> mattsc: I think I'll work on something which doesn't require wesnothd. It's just not worth the time to fiddle with this as I'll switch back to Linux when I get back from mentor summit.
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20141025 23:25:59< iceiceice> it looks like cmakelists currently requries SDL mixer 1.2.12
20141025 23:26:02< iceiceice> idk if AI changed that htough
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20141025 23:27:13< mattsc> thunderstruck: sounds good; maybe at some point in the future we could come back to this to see what the problem is (to make sure it works for others also, not just me)
20141025 23:27:48< gfgtdf> iceiceice: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/ab9baacf6eb8a5668713457ea2f135508f77a7a7
20141025 23:28:27< irker123> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master cef5e2ed9ca9 / CMakeLists.txt: for cmake + ENABLE_PANDORA, reduce SDL_mixer dep to 1.2 from 1.2.12 http://git.io/1wtDuQ
20141025 23:28:40< thunderstruck> mattsc: Yeah. I was talking to happygrue (he's also at mentor summit) this morning, that it's not so easy to start working on wesnoth if you're not on linux.
20141025 23:28:50< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ?? it wont compile without mixer1.2.12 
20141025 23:29:08< iceiceice> gfgtdf: it will use the old code though?
20141025 23:29:11< iceiceice> hmm 
20141025 23:29:16< mattsc> thunderstruck: it’s already a lot easier in Xcode than it used to be though  :)
20141025 23:29:24< mattsc> anyways, go enjoy the summit, thanks
20141025 23:30:06< thunderstruck> mattsc: I guess I'm not a typical OSX user and I feel frustrated when I can't do everything in a console :)
20141025 23:30:18< iceiceice> gfgtdf: where does it need SDL mixer?
20141025 23:30:23< iceiceice> for the RWops?
20141025 23:31:21< gfgtdf> iceiceice: yes teh function Mix_LoadMUSType_RW is new in 1.2.12
20141025 23:32:01< mattsc> thunderstruck: I hear you; I do a lot more on the CL than most people too
20141025 23:34:57< fabi> thunderstruck: 
20141025 23:34:59< fabi> thunderstruck: hi
20141025 23:35:12< iceiceice> gfgtdf: https://github.com/cbeck88/wesnoth/compare/fixup_pandora_compilation
20141025 23:35:47< gfgtdf> iceiceice: that could work
20141025 23:36:34< iceiceice> its just reverting the change from AI's branch
20141025 23:36:37< iceiceice> in sound.cpp
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20141025 23:37:09< iceiceice> i guess its hard to test if this actually works
20141025 23:37:13< iceiceice> maybe we shuold get ivanovic to try it
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20141025 23:37:38< iceiceice> i guess he will let us know if it doesn't :)
20141025 23:38:18< thunderstruck> fabi: Hi.
20141025 23:38:28< thunderstruck> fabi: Just throw your question(s) at me.
20141025 23:39:14< thunderstruck> fabi: I can't always respond immediatelly as I might be talking with people around be or when I'm attending a sessions here at the mentor summit.
20141025 23:39:25< thunderstruck> around me*
20141025 23:39:25< iceiceice> i cannot comppile with cmake at all right now actually,
20141025 23:39:32< iceiceice> it is complaiing about a parenthesis in a .mo file 
20141025 23:39:34< iceiceice> or something...
20141025 23:39:51< iceiceice> but at least the options are working in the cmake gui
20141025 23:46:04< iceiceice> does anyone know where i can get an SDL_mixer 1.2.11 header?
20141025 23:46:53< iceiceice> nm i found..
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20141025 23:57:47< iceiceice> gfgtdf: i am trying to compile with cmake pandora=true
20141025 23:57:54< iceiceice> and SDL mixer header
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