--- Log opened Mon Oct 27 00:00:05 2014
20141027 00:05:05< mattsc> Ugh, now what?  http://pastebin.com/YyQ5FJ9w
20141027 00:05:46< mattsc> I don’t have time for this right now …  or to read up on the logs to see if it was discussed …  :(
20141027 00:07:01< gfgtdf> mattsc: no this seems to me mac only code so we didnt notice
20141027 00:07:53< gfgtdf> mattsc; most likeley you need to do something like std::string temp = owner == _("Turn changed") ? _("Turn changed") : _("Chat message"); CFStringCreateWithCString(NULL, temp, kCFStringEncodingUTF8);
20141027 00:08:19< mattsc> gfgtdf: oh, this is part of the Growl code that isn’t working anyway …  :P
20141027 00:08:49< gfgtdf> mattsc: the _(..) not returns a std::string instead of char*
20141027 00:09:08< gfgtdf> now*
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20141027 00:09:27< mattsc> gfgtdf: thanks, let me try
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20141027 00:41:05< mattsc> anybody who knows C++: is the following correct syntactically etc.:  http://imgur.com/cgVfvAv   (and sorry for sending this as a screengrab; yes, I have reasons…)
20141027 00:42:25< mattsc> after the filesystem changes, the Growl norification code does not compile before I make the change, and it does after; but that doesn’t mean that it;s what one is supposed to do ...
20141027 00:45:13< shadowm> mattsc: Is CFStringRef a typedef for const char* or a type that can be implictly constructed from const char*?
20141027 00:45:34< shadowm> And why does _() not return a const char* anymore?
20141027 00:46:25< shadowm> gfgtdf, iceiceice: ^
20141027 00:50:11< mattsc> shadowm: I really don’t know, that’s why I am asking …
20141027 00:50:24< shadowm> mattsc: std::string::c_str() returns the underlying const char*.
20141027 00:51:01< mattsc> iceiceice, gfgtdf: other than that, the Xcode 1.12 build works after updating the libraries
20141027 00:51:14< shadowm> If you need a read-only const char* from a std::string that outlives the pointer's usage then that's the officially-sanctioned way of obtaining it.
20141027 00:53:08< mattsc> shadowm: I have no idea what I need here, I just copied what is done in the lines shown above  :P
20141027 00:53:44< shadowm> I just explained why you might need that there.
20141027 00:54:45< mattsc> Right, you explained why I might need that there, but I do not know if I do need that there.
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20141027 00:55:07< mattsc> anyways, I can wait until iceiceice or gfgtdf are back and tell me what should be done; the main message for right now is that the builds work.
20141027 00:55:12< iceiceice> hi
20141027 00:55:16< mattsc> hi
20141027 00:55:45< mattsc> I’m off for dinner actually, be back in a bit
20141027 00:55:48< iceiceice> yeah i think what you did is rpobably ine
20141027 00:55:49< iceiceice> *fine
20141027 00:56:20< iceiceice> shadowm: i don't know for sure but i think the the "CFStringRef" is a way to prepare strings to be passed to growl
20141027 00:56:30< iceiceice> so that it knows it needs to manage that memory / make a copy / whatever
20141027 00:56:41< iceiceice> a bit like boost::ref 
20141027 00:57:11< iceiceice> mattsc: sorry that i didn't notice this
20141027 00:57:19< iceiceice> shadowm: re: why is _ returning a std::string now,
20141027 00:57:59< shadowm> Yes.
20141027 00:58:12< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/9742c9cb544e3cfaf587761c4e43a4ac9adf8b17
20141027 00:58:29< shadowm> I saw the commit, I'm currently double-checking it for ternary operator ref assignments.
20141027 00:58:58< iceiceice> mainly i'm drawing attention tot he message,
20141027 00:59:00< shadowm> As well as a few instances of lost constness intention (not functionality).
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20141027 00:59:45< shadowm> (i.e. const char* foo becoming std::string foo even though it was originally used as if char const* const foo was intended.)
20141027 01:00:24< gfgtdf> becasue: boost locale gettext returns std::string. i think its not impossible to work around and have it return char* but nearly everywehere we convert it into a std::string anyway.
20141027 01:00:59< shadowm> Note to self: triple-check reports.cpp `REPORT_GENERATOR(report_clock, /*rc*/)` block for ref assignment.
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20141027 01:05:26< irker890> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master f0d06b9146e9 / src/ (editor/map/context_manager.cpp save_index.cpp): Restore string constness intention lost in Boost.locale deployment http://git.io/sJzx-A
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20141027 01:49:16< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#4472 (master - f0d06b9 : Ignacio R. Morelle): The build has errored.
20141027 01:49:16< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/39115072
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20141027 02:03:13< irker890> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 07657622e25e / .travis.yml: remove an unnecessary ppa from travis http://git.io/ImTBmA
20141027 02:03:15< irker890> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master afaca721a307 / src/ (editor/map/context_manager.cpp save_index.cpp): Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/CBcnqg
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20141027 02:47:38< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#4473 (master - afaca72 : Chris Beck): The build has errored.
20141027 02:47:38< travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/39117099
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20141027 03:20:09< ancestral> iceiceice: Sooooo
20141027 03:20:58< ancestral> homebrew is installing either 1.10.6
20141027 03:21:19< ancestral> Or 1.11.7
20141027 03:22:03< ancestral> iceiceice, mattsc: No music, I get errors that the library libogg.0.dylib was not loaded
20141027 03:22:25< iceiceice> i see
20141027 03:22:31< ancestral> and libvorbisfile.dylib
20141027 03:22:44< ancestral> I installed 1.10.6
20141027 03:22:45< iceiceice> well you got further than me, linuxbrew got link errors trying to compile fontconfig...
20141027 03:22:49< ancestral> Launched wesnoth from the terminal
20141027 03:22:52< ancestral> Started the tutorial
20141027 03:22:54< ancestral> Clicked OK
20141027 03:22:57< iceiceice> wow, so it worked for you?
20141027 03:23:00< ancestral> and then a few seconds later Wesnoth crashed
20141027 03:23:04< iceiceice> hmmm
20141027 03:23:07< ancestral> Yes, it did build
20141027 03:23:23< iceiceice> i tried building 1.10.6 with cmake,
20141027 03:23:26< iceiceice> i couldnt' get it to work
20141027 03:23:34< ancestral> *** error for object 0x7fc75e407cc0: pointer being freed was not allocated
20141027 03:23:39< ancestral> iceiceice: Are you on a Mac?
20141027 03:23:43< iceiceice> no on linux
20141027 03:24:14< iceiceice> i think maybe it woudl be better if their script uses scons?
20141027 03:24:16< ancestral> Homebrew is sirt of a Mac package manager…
20141027 03:24:19< ancestral> *sort
20141027 03:24:32< iceiceice> y i nkow
20141027 03:24:40< iceiceice> there is this "fork" of it for linux,
20141027 03:24:45< iceiceice> its not as well developed though
20141027 03:24:51< ancestral> Oh okay
20141027 03:25:14< iceiceice> you have to start hacking their ruby just to install anything with X11 dependency,
20141027 03:25:24< iceiceice> because the X11 dependency from upstream doesnt work right on non-mac
20141027 03:25:35< ancestral> mattsc, iceiceice The other thing is it’s not wrapped in a nice app package with OS X menus and such
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20141027 03:26:26< ancestral> But that might , I don’t know
20141027 03:26:32< ancestral> *be trivial?
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20141027 03:26:39< iceiceice> i dont really know, maybe
20141027 03:26:40< iceiceice> ?
20141027 03:27:07< iceiceice> i guess if there were a nice gui installer for homebrew that might be nice
20141027 03:27:31< iceiceice> for wesnoth it should be one line install thoguh, right?
20141027 03:27:35< iceiceice> like brew install wesnoth
20141027 03:28:03< iceiceice> it will take a long time to get everything, but as long as its automatic...
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20141027 03:36:11< c74d> Hm, MacPorts only has version 1.10.7.
20141027 03:39:50< ancestral> Well, the app shell is essentially composed of the parts of the OS X Package folder
20141027 03:40:11< ancestral> Built through Xcode
20141027 03:40:42< iceiceice> ancestral: are you comfortable to mess around with the wesnoth formula?
20141027 03:40:46< ancestral> But if it were possible to prebuild the app wrapper, then the data files could just be moved into it
20141027 03:41:27< ancestral> iceiceice: Like, the build script, or whatever homebrew is using?
20141027 03:41:33< iceiceice> also you could maybe try this i guess? "homebrew install libvorbis" ?
20141027 03:41:53< iceiceice> it looks like their deps has SDL_mixer with libvorbis support, but i don't know if that means it builds libvorbis also
20141027 03:42:20< iceiceice> ancestral: i dont know where your homebrew got installed, it sounds like it usually wants to go in "/usr/local"
20141027 03:42:41< iceiceice> that was the impression i got reading, but for me linuxbrew ended up in ~/.linuxbrew
20141027 03:42:48< iceiceice> but in there there is a folder Libraries/Formulas,
20141027 03:42:50< iceiceice> and in there i find wesnoth.rb
20141027 03:45:17< iceiceice> i guess there is also `libogg`
20141027 03:56:44< iceiceice> ancestral: if you add a line `head "https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth.git", then i think `brew install wesnoth --head` will install current master for you
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20141027 04:04:26< ancestral> iceiceice: I will try that out now
20141027 04:04:37< ancestral> Yes, /usr/local/bin
20141027 04:05:11< ancestral> Error: No head is defined for wesnoth
20141027 04:05:20< ancestral> Wesnoth is headless! :-o ;-)
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20141027 04:07:14< iceiceice> :O
20141027 04:07:26< iceiceice> hmm,
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20141027 04:17:07< ancestral> iceiceice: Wait, add a line
20141027 04:17:15< ancestral> `head "https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth.git"
20141027 04:17:17< ancestral> to where?
20141027 04:18:00< iceiceice> i would stick it, like, here: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-games/blob/master/wesnoth.rb#L12
20141027 04:18:02< iceiceice> and make some space
20141027 04:18:35< iceiceice> here's how freeciv did it i guess: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-games/blob/master/freeciv.rb#L7
20141027 04:18:49< ancestral> iceiceice: Do I have a copy of this file somewhere locally?
20141027 04:18:58< iceiceice> i think you should
20141027 04:19:17< iceiceice> another option i guess is,
20141027 04:19:19< iceiceice> copy the wesnoth one,
20141027 04:19:30< iceiceice> put it ont he internet somewhere, e.g. with gist ?
20141027 04:19:38< iceiceice> and do brew install [url]
20141027 04:19:40< ancestral> right
20141027 04:19:50< iceiceice> does gist have a "raw" mode? it must right?
20141027 04:19:51< ancestral> fork that repo on Github
20141027 04:21:50< ancestral> That would work
20141027 04:22:00< ancestral> But I’ll see if the formula is stored locally
20141027 04:27:48< c74d> iceiceice: Gist has a raw mode, yes.
20141027 04:28:37< c74d> It does, however, produce potentially unwieldy URLs, e.g.…
20141027 04:30:10< c74d> <https://gist.githubusercontent.com/8573/ddc858c56e8613ef148f/raw/ea0d49bcf0830a4a6cc2f15684c407e93094fd45/install-notes::nix-on-mac.mkd>
20141027 04:32:46< ancestral>  /usr/local/Library/Formula/
20141027 04:35:05< ancestral> iceiceice: Hmm: https://paste.ee/p/qjhWi
20141027 04:36:38< iceiceice> ancestral: whats your formula look like?
20141027 04:38:09< ancestral> iceiceice: https://paste.ee/p/4v0GA
20141027 04:38:17< ancestral> oh
20141027 04:38:21< ancestral> oops missing “
20141027 04:38:29< ancestral> That’ll do it
20141027 04:38:43< ancestral> Aha
20141027 04:38:45< ancestral> Error: You must `brew link libogg' before wesnoth can be installed
20141027 04:38:50< ancestral> That might fix the music problem
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20141027 04:44:46< ancestral> iceiceice: https://paste.ee/p/jr7Rh
20141027 04:45:01< ancestral> Error: You must `brew link libogg' before wesnoth can be installed
20141027 04:45:44< ancestral> drwxr-xr-x should be good enough I would think
20141027 04:46:27< ancestral> maybe chown it to me instead of root
20141027 04:47:08< iceiceice> i cant see your paste for some reason
20141027 04:47:46< iceiceice> i managed to get it with wget...
20141027 04:48:31< iceiceice> yeah ok
20141027 04:48:35< iceiceice> i actually have no idea what brew link does
20141027 04:48:58< ancestral> Okay
20141027 04:49:03< ancestral> Figured that out
20141027 04:49:09< ancestral> iceiceice: Now, getting the latest!
20141027 04:49:14< ancestral> This is cool!
20141027 04:49:21< ancestral> Thanks, btw, you’re an immense help
20141027 04:50:59< ancestral> Looking something like this: https://paste.ee/p/58USQ
20141027 04:51:12< ancestral> (because I had a version of Wesnoth already brewed)
20141027 04:54:55< ancestral> 66%
20141027 04:57:59< iceiceice> cool :)
20141027 04:58:19< iceiceice> i think that, if it ends up actually working, it will be really good when there are master updates
20141027 04:58:35< iceiceice> i'm hoping it will do the smart git thing and just fetch the diffs
20141027 04:58:41< ancestral> Hmm
20141027 04:58:56< ancestral> https://paste.ee/p/VwnzL
20141027 05:01:43< ancestral> I’m going to brew rm Wesnoth and see if that makes any difference
20141027 05:01:56< iceiceice> ok
20141027 05:03:24< ancestral> Nah same error
20141027 05:07:46< iceiceice> yeah... i wish this thing used scons instead of cmake,
20141027 05:08:01< iceiceice> i dont really trust our cmake recipe
20141027 05:08:17< iceiceice> and its easier to debug it
20141027 05:08:39< iceiceice> ancestral: you can try also `brew install wesnoth --head --debug --verbose`
20141027 05:08:43< iceiceice> it might give you more info
20141027 05:08:49< iceiceice> but it will also spam a lot i guess
20141027 05:09:04< ancestral> (HEAD in uppercase btw ;-) )
20141027 05:09:17< ancestral> Cool to know let’s see what happens
20141027 05:13:39< ancestral> Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:
20141027 05:13:53< ancestral> <boost stuff>
20141027 05:14:06< ancestral> ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64
20141027 05:14:12< ancestral> clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)
20141027 05:14:24< ancestral> make[2]: *** [wesnothd] Error 1
20141027 05:14:24< ancestral> make[1]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/wesnothd.dir/all] Error 2
20141027 05:14:25< ancestral> make: *** [all] Error 2
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20141027 05:16:19< ancestral> iceiceice: Some library not linked maybe
20141027 05:16:50< iceiceice> hmmm
20141027 05:17:02< ancestral> Ahhh in debug mode I can raise, ignore, backtrace, irb or shell
20141027 05:17:16< iceiceice> yeah i saw that too
20141027 05:17:21< ancestral> Should I try ignoring?
20141027 05:17:23< iceiceice> i think its a ruby debugger
20141027 05:17:27< iceiceice> i dont know how useful it is here
20141027 05:17:30< ancestral> I see
20141027 05:17:52< ancestral> Hmm, it just stops, yeah
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20141027 05:21:49< ancestral> iceiceice: Similar to https://github.com/mcuadros/homebrew-hhvm/issues/84
20141027 05:24:16< iceiceice> ancestral: i'm not sure who made our cmake script,
20141027 05:24:23< iceiceice> its quite possible they didnt intend for it to be used on osx
20141027 05:24:28< iceiceice> i dont really know
20141027 05:24:30< ancestral> Yeah
20141027 05:24:38< ancestral> You said there’s a way to build with scons
20141027 05:24:48< iceiceice> i know that some of these recipes use scons
20141027 05:24:58< iceiceice> i'm not sure exactly how it needs to change though,
20141027 05:25:11< iceiceice> its really hard for me to make suggestions when my own brew thing doesnt work T_T
20141027 05:25:20< iceiceice> i am slowly debugging fontconfig.rb ...
20141027 05:25:24< iceiceice> i made a little progress i think
20141027 05:25:36< ancestral> Ahh
20141027 05:27:42< iceiceice> ok, heres a game that uses, scons,
20141027 05:27:43< iceiceice> https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-games/blob/392979301307af100a877e1e6f4882db513c172f/fceux.rb
20141027 05:29:39< iceiceice> well,
20141027 05:29:55< iceiceice> i guess you coudl just change this line to 'scons' => :build,
20141027 05:29:57< iceiceice> https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-games/blob/master/wesnoth.rb#L13
20141027 05:30:08< iceiceice> and replace both of these: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-games/blob/master/wesnoth.rb#L26
20141027 05:30:15< iceiceice> with just `scons` ?
20141027 05:30:19< iceiceice> or `system "scons"`
20141027 05:30:50< iceiceice> do you have gcc or only clang?
20141027 05:31:27< iceiceice> if you have only clang then i guess you will ahve to do `scons cxxtool=clang++`
20141027 05:31:44< iceiceice> probably you have both if cmake didnt' blow up
20141027 05:35:32< ancestral> only clang
20141027 05:35:42< ancestral> I think I can install gcc if need be… maybe…
20141027 05:37:56< iceiceice> hmm so cmake just magically finds that it should use clang?
20141027 05:38:01< iceiceice> i didn't know it did that
20141027 05:38:41< iceiceice> clang is my compiler of choice, it should be fine for master
20141027 05:39:32< ancestral> Alright, trying with (ignore my curly quotes here) ’scons’ => :build  and  system “scons”
20141027 05:40:42< ancestral> iceiceice: https://paste.ee/p/4q28s
20141027 05:42:30< ancestral> iceiceice: gcc symlinks to clang
20141027 05:42:38< iceiceice> ah ok
20141027 05:42:48< iceiceice> can you try to --debug --verbose?
20141027 05:42:49< ancestral> (er vice versa, gcc → clang)
20141027 05:42:53< ancestral> sure
20141027 05:43:45< ancestral> iceiceice: https://paste.ee/p/9XBnG
20141027 05:44:43< iceiceice> ok it almost works, its just this: Checking for Gettext's libintl... no
20141027 05:45:23< ancestral> I see that, yes
20141027 05:45:31< iceiceice> also im not sure about this pango cairo comments
20141027 05:45:49< ancestral> I’m familiar with what pango and cairo are
20141027 05:47:22< iceiceice> ancestral: google turned up this:
20141027 05:47:23< iceiceice> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11370684/what-is-libintl-h-and-where-can-i-get-it
20141027 05:47:32< iceiceice> theres a comment `Possibly helpful since OP is on OS X, though doesn't specify if he is using Homebrew: I've seen some builds fail to find libintl despite gettext being installed -- I had to brew link gettext to resolve it. –`
20141027 05:47:40< iceiceice> maybe try `brew link gettext` ?
20141027 05:47:51< ancestral> Sure
20141027 05:48:22< ancestral> Warning: gettext is keg-only and must be linked with --force
20141027 05:48:26< ancestral> Note that doing so can interfere with building software.
20141027 05:50:22< ancestral> “Mac OS X provides similar software, and installing this software in parallel can cause all kinds of trouble.”
20141027 05:50:31< ancestral> “OS X provides the BSD gettext library and some software gets confused if both are in the library path.”
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20141027 05:51:45< iceiceice> hmm
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20141027 05:52:23< ancestral> thos last two is what shows when I `brew info gettext`
20141027 05:56:44< iceiceice> i think it might be worth a try to force it,
20141027 05:56:58< iceiceice> i dont really know
20141027 05:57:26< iceiceice> i think the risk of this issue is less because gettext is a pure C library
20141027 05:57:35< ancestral> Yeah
20141027 05:57:45< iceiceice> this guy says you can always do "brew unlink gettext"
20141027 05:57:50< iceiceice> if it turns out bad
20141027 05:57:51< iceiceice> http://superuser.com/questions/747324/brew-install-gettext-should-i-force-link-it
20141027 05:58:14< ancestral> Alright let’s see what happens
20141027 05:58:32< iceiceice> oh also,
20141027 05:58:32< iceiceice> https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/issues/7621
20141027 05:58:47< iceiceice> the alternative is to change your scons to be like
20141027 05:58:54< ancestral> https://paste.ee/p/qfU4c
20141027 05:58:54< iceiceice> `scons prefix="/usr/local/Cellar/gettext/0.18.1.1/"
20141027 05:58:58< ancestral> Let me read through your links
20141027 06:00:26< ancestral> Seems like xcb-shm is needed
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20141027 06:00:55< iceiceice> ancestral: this might help with xcb-shm
20141027 06:00:56< iceiceice> http://pastebin.com/C4WhsvTH
20141027 06:01:16< ancestral> Oh great
20141027 06:01:17< ancestral> export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/opt/X11/lib/pkgconfig
20141027 06:01:33< ancestral> Alright, try again
20141027 06:01:54< ancestral> Coooooool
20141027 06:02:08< ancestral> Working onto po files now
20141027 06:02:22< iceiceice> nice
20141027 06:02:35< iceiceice> it looks like that "export" thing is the known workaround on homebrew issue tracker:
20141027 06:02:35< iceiceice> https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/issues/14123
20141027 06:03:51< ancestral> Okay, another failure
20141027 06:05:40< ancestral> iceiceice: https://paste.ee/p/awmY1
20141027 06:05:56< ancestral> (coming after the .po files being built)
20141027 06:09:24< iceiceice> ok i think thats a bug in our code actually
20141027 06:09:31< iceiceice> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/issues/1000
20141027 06:09:41< iceiceice> i think technically we are suppsoed to use std::fabs or something, let me figure it out
20141027 06:09:44< vultraz> heh. windows thinks wmllint-1.4 is a "4 file" :p
20141027 06:12:15< ancestral> vultraz: Apparently files cannot be named “CON” in Windows
20141027 06:12:45< shadowm> NUL, AUX, PRN, CON, COM1, COM2, COM3, COM4, LPT1, LPT2, LPT3, LPT4, CONFIG$, CLOCK$.
20141027 06:13:12< shadowm> Also a few other names if you are on a DOS-based version with certain real-mode drivers loaded.
20141027 06:14:07< ancestral> Crimes against humanity!
20141027 06:20:49< iceiceice> gahhh this linuxbrew thing is making me nervous...
20141027 06:21:17< iceiceice> i'm seeing a lot of -L/home/chris/.linuxbrew/...  when i compile wesnoth normally now...
20141027 06:24:32< iceiceice> ancestral: i think i have a patch, if it compiles for me i will push to master
20141027 06:24:47< ancestral> Alright, cool
20141027 06:30:22< ancestral> (Anyway, yes, homebrew is fairly popular in the OS X dev circles. Used to be fink, then macports (which still gets some decent attention) but now homebrew is what all the kids are using)
20141027 06:32:52< ancestral> Follow up: http://daringfireball.net/2014/10/nfc_apple_pay
20141027 06:33:00< ancestral> Bahhhh sorry wrong channel
20141027 06:38:01< irker890> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle website:master 92f3539c1324 / start/1.12/ (index.es.html po/es.po): Spanish 1.12 announcement translation update http://git.io/fRWVDA
20141027 06:44:37< irker890> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master b05773c4099e / src/map_location.hpp: resolve ambiguities in referring to std::abs, in map_location.hpp http://git.io/aSYmqQ
20141027 06:44:41< iceiceice> ancestral: ^
20141027 06:44:52< c74d> ancestral: Nix seems to me to be shaping up to be the “next generation” after Homebrew.
20141027 06:45:13< ancestral> c74d: I’m starting to hear that word more and more
20141027 06:45:16 * c74d uses MacPorts, would rather use Nix.
20141027 06:45:37< ancestral> (aside from *NIX, etc., which is obviously a different context)
20141027 06:46:17< ancestral> iceiceice: Running it again
20141027 06:48:36< ancestral> iceiceice: https://paste.ee/p/4N1Jc
20141027 06:48:50< ancestral> Type mismatch>
20141027 06:49:17< iceiceice> thats wierd
20141027 06:49:23< iceiceice> so they dont provide an int abs function?
20141027 06:54:46< ancestral> Found this, not sure if this is relevant: http://stackoverflow.com/a/18699423/1458208
20141027 06:59:10< iceiceice> i fixed it, i'm just waiting for it to compile...
20141027 06:59:25< iceiceice> alot of things include map_location.hpp...
20141027 07:01:23< shadowm> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=40835 :(
20141027 07:03:10< iceiceice> shadowm: maybe we can ask him to try a jenkins binary?
20141027 07:03:20< iceiceice> it might be one of these ascii path issues
20141027 07:03:23< shadowm> Well, not me.
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20141027 07:05:04< irker890> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 7ce9199e4700 / src/map_location.hpp: fixup compilation for OS X http://git.io/Lr5maA
20141027 07:05:07< iceiceice> ancestral: 6
20141027 07:05:08< iceiceice> ^
20141027 07:05:40< shadowm> iceiceice: Do you and gfgfgfgf feel confident enough in your changes that we shouldn't need an RC 3, or do you believe it'll be necessary to go with that?
20141027 07:05:40< iceiceice> shadowm: what are we supposed to do with these updated add-on translation messages also?
20141027 07:05:53< shadowm> Updated add-on translation messages?
20141027 07:06:09< iceiceice> this guy pepe posted like 6 times
20141027 07:06:12< iceiceice> also like Elven
20141027 07:06:24< iceiceice> being like "where's AI, we need him to commit our translations"
20141027 07:06:41< shadowm> Espreon and AI0867 are the only ones who can commit to the wescamp repos AFAIK, and both are inactive atm.
20141027 07:06:52< iceiceice> ok i see
20141027 07:07:18< shadowm> Add-on authors still have the option to compile the message catalogues themselves with msgfmt, although I can't say for sure how many of them even understand how to do that or include the results in their add-ons.
20141027 07:08:09< iceiceice> shadowm: re: RC 3
20141027 07:08:14< shadowm> iceiceice, gfgtdf: It'd be nice to have a definitive answer to my question about RC 3 for the following reasons: 1) Ivanovic will only be back in time for tagging 1.12.0 on November 1st.
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20141027 07:08:26< iceiceice> i'm not confident that its totally wrinkle free.
20141027 07:08:35< shadowm> 2) I want to know when 1.12.0 will be tagged so I can plan my own server maintenance operations schedule ahead of time.
20141027 07:08:37< iceiceice> i don't know how many other issues there might be like you pointed out about ".."
20141027 07:08:52< shadowm> 3) I'd also like to issue a call for more testers for RC 2 or RC 3 through the forums and MP servers.
20141027 07:09:10< iceiceice> but i'm pretty confident there won't be showstopping bugs
20141027 07:09:31< shadowm> So I'd ideally have an answer within the next 18 hours.
20141027 07:09:36< iceiceice> the worst thing i fear is that Ivanovic will show up on Nov 1st and say omg pandora doesn't compile
20141027 07:09:50< shadowm> I'll also need to post three forum announcements.
20141027 07:10:24< shadowm> mattsc: You might also want to weigh in on this matter.
20141027 07:10:41< iceiceice> i think overall i'm ambivalent
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20141027 07:10:49< iceiceice> about having RC 3 or not
20141027 07:11:36< shadowm> vultraz: In UtBS scenario 10 we have this around line 298: "On the tallest peak was build some sort of stronghold" -- Typo? Shouldn't this be 'built'? (Unless Melisand is using some archaism I'm unaware of, since she tends to do that.)
20141027 07:11:43< shadowm> Melusand.
20141027 07:12:29< shadowm> iceiceice: I personally feel we can't be too safe and would rather miss Debian's stable freeze than ship a completely broken initial version.
20141027 07:12:46< shadowm> mattsc: ^
20141027 07:17:52< shadowm> vultraz: And don't commit the fix yourself, just tell me whether it's needed or not so I can deal with pofix atomically.
20141027 07:21:11< vultraz> shadowm: yes, it should be built
20141027 07:23:51< iceiceice> shadowm: you should ask gfgtdf his opinion also, he will be better informed frankly
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20141027 07:35:08< vultraz> I just had a great idea for a wesnoth terrain: lampposts
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20141027 07:52:30< shadowm> iceiceice: That' what I did above.
20141027 07:52:36< iceiceice> y i know 
20141027 07:52:38< iceiceice> :)
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20141027 08:08:13< shadowm> Oh right, it says "hard string freeze".
20141027 08:08:31< shadowm> I guess I can't even commit a pofix-compliant typo fix then. :(
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20141027 08:10:34< shadowm> I've added it to SpellingMistakes, so someone can remind me to commit the fix after 1.12.0.
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20141027 15:32:51< mattsc> loonycyborg: did you see this?  http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=40835
20141027 15:34:34< mattsc> 20141027 07:12:29< shadowm> iceiceice: I personally feel we can't be too safe and would rather miss Debian's stable freeze than ship a completely broken initial version.
20141027 15:35:13< mattsc> I agree with this sentiment in general.  What I don’t know how completely broken 1.11.18 might potentially be.
20141027 15:35:51< mattsc> Let’s wait for gfgtdf, as both of you said.  (shadowm and iceiceice)
20141027 15:36:13< loonycyborg> mattsc: nope, I'll try to repro it late
20141027 15:36:14< loonycyborg> r
20141027 15:37:30< mattsc> Btw, gfgtdf, iceiceice, loonycyborg, shadowm, whoever else was involved: I just wanted to say that I am really impressed by the huge effort you made to get these filesystem changes done so quickly!  (and the result, of course)
20141027 15:46:22< vultraz> I second that. Nice work :)
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20141027 15:46:36< irker389> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 9b2f9a612825 / src/game_display.cpp: Growl notifications: Fix attempts to pass std::string instead of const char* http://git.io/cImfgg
20141027 15:46:36< irker389> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 3d906be9ee4c / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Xcode project: switch to using the new boost filesystem code http://git.io/l7-QZQ
20141027 15:51:36< irker389> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 e71d6b6bdba1 / RELEASE_NOTES: Release notes: Add comment about new Xcode compile package requirement http://git.io/tqPXxA
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20141027 16:30:04< irker389> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master 4fb0923bd2e3 / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Xcode project: finish switching to using the new boost filesystem code http://git.io/dClc_Q
20141027 16:35:57< irker389> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 3b457ab9900d / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Xcode project file: fix user data directory name http://git.io/D5K-PQ
20141027 16:36:18< mattsc> Oops ^  :P
20141027 16:37:02< mattsc> Fortunately that was present for less than an hour, so likely nobody’s builds got screwed up (except my own)  …
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20141027 16:45:47< irker389> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master 6b7db24ce290 / RELEASE_NOTES: Release notes: Add comment about new Xcode compile package requirement http://git.io/wLNuVg
20141027 16:45:49< irker389> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master 0ed27f5043b7 / changelog: Changelog: Add comment about new Xcode compile package requirement http://git.io/PqwxTg
20141027 16:46:01< irker389> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 04e74005e0ad / changelog: Changelog: Add comment about new Xcode compile package requirement http://git.io/rQAZVA
20141027 16:46:03< irker389> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 c88d4db20b4d / changelog: Changelog: fix version number http://git.io/H8kRFw
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20141027 19:05:39< shadowm> mattsc: I didn't do anything.
20141027 19:06:46< shadowm> gfgtdf: So, do you have an opinion about 1.12.0 this Saturday vs. 1.12 RC 3 next Saturday instead?
20141027 19:07:15< shadowm> mattsc: The filesystem changes didn't land in 1.12 before 1.11.18 was tagged AFAIK.
20141027 19:07:34< shadowm> So... I don't expect 1.11.18 to be any more broken than 1.11.17 was.
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20141027 19:08:35< mattsc> shadowm: Yeah, true.  I should have said 1.11.18+dev.
20141027 19:09:16< mattsc> shadowm: While you might not have done any coding yourself, I have seen you involved in the discussions.  That’s not nothing.
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20141027 19:14:44< gfgtdf> shadowm: i caurrently have nothing to do in my todo list about the filesystem, except some minor tidyup in gettext_boost.cpp. But i also didnt test the 1.12 backport yet, also during the tests om master it turned out that working on my msvc bild does not imply it work on mingw builds too. Afaik iceiceice is the only one who tested the backport yet
20141027 19:14:54< gfgtdf> iceiceice: if you give me your comiled version .exe + .dlls i can test the mingw version on a non-wine windows some if you want.
20141027 19:15:26< shadowm> Has the Code::Blocks dependencies package been updated?
20141027 19:16:08< shadowm> Otherwise, is there another easy method to build on Windows with Mingw that doesn't require me to build or gather dependencies myself?
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20141027 19:33:05 * zookeeper finds that fixing the guard placement logic in liberty's "hide and seek" isn't that easy
20141027 19:33:39< zookeeper> or rather, it's easy to fix it so that there can be no impossible randomizations, but then the gaps are usually unnecessarily wide and things become too easy
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20141027 19:34:55< zookeeper> i hadn't realized that just making sure there's always a path between the guards is not enough; instead, there should be chokepoints where you have to time your pass right
20141027 19:38:13< mattsc> Woot - long live the RNG!
20141027 19:39:28< mattsc> I just tried to debug win LoW-S1 in 1.10.7, but giving one of the orc leaders 1 HP and hitting him with an Elvish Archer - I needed 17 tries before I got one hit.  :D
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20141027 19:40:14< mattsc> that’s on 60% defense terrain
20141027 19:40:32< mattsc> chance of 16 misses in a row is …
20141027 19:40:45< zookeeper> well then just imagine that surely someone somewhere has once missed 17 times with magical attacks :J
20141027 19:41:03< mattsc> 0.028%
20141027 19:41:34< mattsc> I bet someone has - but that was only because the RNG is secretly rigged to favor the AI  ;)
20141027 19:41:38< zookeeper> maybe we should have achievements for incredibly _bad_ luck, just to make people feel better when it happens :P
20141027 19:41:44< zookeeper> ssssshh
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20141027 19:47:55< iceiceice> shadowm, gfgtdf: here's my current 1.12 mingw build, wtih my mingw runtime library dll: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B54Q-3UjP5fiWlF0UjFBT0FMSXM/view?usp=sharing
20141027 19:48:07< iceiceice> besides this you should only need loony's 1.11 deps
20141027 19:48:35< iceiceice> http://sourceforge.net/projects/wesnoth/files/SDK/wesnoth-deps-1.11.zip/download
20141027 19:48:59< iceiceice> shadowm: pentarctagon says he updated the deps and got it working
20141027 19:49:06< iceiceice> but that was on master
20141027 19:49:24< iceiceice> but i think probably you could use the same deps collection
20141027 19:49:40< iceiceice> also,
20141027 19:49:53< iceiceice> the new BFS code affects all platforms, not just mingw
20141027 19:50:13< iceiceice> so its valuable to test msvc and normal linux anyways
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20141027 20:11:00< irker723> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 845e6df14206 / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/chapter1/03_Kalian_under_Attack.cfg: LoW 03: fix coordinates for Urudin appearing at scenario start http://git.io/OE84rg
20141027 20:11:23< mattsc> fabi/fendrin: ^
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20141027 20:37:04< iceiceice> shadowm: oh i guess pent was talking about the mingw on windows instructions
20141027 20:37:11< iceiceice> probably not the code::blocks instructions
20141027 20:37:14< iceiceice> so i dont know
20141027 20:38:00< irker723> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master e97bd1a2bcde / src/map_location.hpp: fixup std::abs in map_location.hpp http://git.io/dzCvtw
20141027 20:38:49< shadowm> I'm testing Wesnoth on Linux the way I know best anyway. By playtesting my own campaign.
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20141027 20:39:08< shadowm> I'll try to build it on Windows later.
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20141027 20:39:55< shadowm> > Applying: Bump changelog version again
20141027 20:39:58< shadowm> > No changes -- Patch already applied.
20141027 20:40:05< shadowm> Looks like mattsc beat me to it.
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20141027 20:41:26< mattsc> zookeeper: WML question.  If I want to clear fog in a time over event, for which side do I need to set ‘fog=no’?
20141027 20:41:46< shadowm> For the observing side.
20141027 20:41:51< mattsc> the players’ sides, or the last active side of the scenario?
20141027 20:42:03< mattsc> shadowm: so that’s the latter?
20141027 20:42:08< mattsc> even if that’s an AI side?
20141027 20:42:10< shadowm> The last active human side.
20141027 20:42:43< zookeeper> eh, what? for the side for which you want to clear the fog, surely..?
20141027 20:42:47< mattsc> Hmm - that’s what I thought is being done, but it is not working (also in Low S3).
20141027 20:43:02< shadowm> I believe in time over that's side 1 because it is thrown at the start of the last + 1 turn.
20141027 20:43:12< mattsc> zookeeper: the fog is supposed to be lifted off the map at the time of the time-over event.
20141027 20:43:20< shadowm> So side 1 is the currently active side.
20141027 20:43:38< zookeeper> what does it matter when it's supposed to happen?
20141027 20:43:51< shadowm> mattsc: Did you issue a [redraw] afterwards?
20141027 20:44:03< mattsc> shadowm: yes, that’ what I thought too; and yes, the [redraw] is there.
20141027 20:44:19< mattsc> zookeeper: because that’s how the story is set up
20141027 20:44:34< zookeeper> that's not what i meant
20141027 20:44:45< mattsc> context: when Kalenz and Landar appear, there is a message “then suddenly the fog lifted” - but the fog does not lift at that time
20141027 20:45:16< mattsc> it does in 1.10.7, it does not in 1.11.18+dev; and I have not figured out why yet ...
20141027 20:45:33< mattsc> I’m sure it’s some silly little oversight, but I have not found it yet
20141027 20:46:27< shadowm> We seriously need a visual distinction between village and non-village windmills.
20141027 20:46:44< shadowm> It's frustratingly stupid as it is.
20141027 20:46:46< mattsc> shadowm: agreed
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20141027 20:49:26< zookeeper> of course it is
20141027 20:51:31< irker723> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 79043f93c674 / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/chapter1/03_Kalian_under_Attack.cfg: LoW 03: fix coordinates for redestroying village at map change http://git.io/mTXW0w
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20141027 20:54:02< mattsc> Well, I’m out of time.  fabi: maybe you’ll beat me to that.  Note that there were also 2 bug reports posted in the last few minutes (one of them also about fog, even if about a different issue with it; which might of course be related)
20141027 20:55:00< irker723> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master b88d2af26fba / scons/boost.py: scons: add selected headers for boost libs locale, random http://git.io/jTfbIg
20141027 20:55:15< iceiceice> loonycyborg: ^
20141027 20:55:26< iceiceice> mattsc: quick question,
20141027 20:55:40< iceiceice> was i also supposed to mention dependency changes in the changelog, besides release notes?
20141027 20:55:57< iceiceice> also, should they go into the master branch release notes?
20141027 20:56:07< loonycyborg> iceiceice: seems good
20141027 20:56:34< shadowm> iceiceice: Yes and no.
20141027 20:56:47< shadowm> But yes to the master changelog too.
20141027 20:56:56< mattsc> iceiceice: I  … (ah, there’s your answer)
20141027 20:56:59< iceiceice> shadowm: thanks
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20141027 20:59:31< iceiceice> mattsc: i only asked you because i saw you made a changelog entry about mac deps
20141027 21:02:29< mattsc> iceiceice: I figured.  I was going to say: I think you should (and that’s why I did), but you might want to confirm with somebody else.
20141027 21:03:11< ancestral> iceiceice: Just tried `brew install` again and it fails sooner now
20141027 21:03:12< ancestral> https://paste.ee/p/n0pW8
20141027 21:03:53< iceiceice> crap
20141027 21:03:53< iceiceice> Checking for Boost locale library... no
20141027 21:03:59< iceiceice> i might have just broke that somehow
20141027 21:05:28< ancestral> Tied to this? https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/4fb0923bd2e3a454ab035dfee8730dcae6553d52
20141027 21:05:55< irker723> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master a60c7efd9e89 / scons/boost.py: fixup b88d2af26fbac5157f4c084bc08ce250a5c66c58 http://git.io/Ahn2fw
20141027 21:05:57< iceiceice> ancestral: tr now
20141027 21:06:01< ancestral> OK
20141027 21:06:45< ancestral> “GOOD: Base prerequisites are met”
20141027 21:11:06< ancestral> It’s going much further than last night
20141027 21:21:08< shadowm> 20141027 18:20:45 error display: could not open image 'terrain/.png'
20141027 21:21:39< shadowm> I'd like to find out what is causing this (it's from long before the fs code changes).
20141027 21:22:31< ancestral> iceiceice: Alright, so it finished
20141027 21:22:38< iceiceice> wow :)
20141027 21:22:49< iceiceice> does it work?
20141027 21:22:49< ancestral> Oddly it’s not linked or something
20141027 21:23:02< iceiceice> yeah so scons wont install it to your desktop or whatever
20141027 21:23:04< ancestral> It doesn’t see it in /usr/local/bin/
20141027 21:23:08< iceiceice> i think you can do scons install if you want that
20141027 21:23:15< iceiceice> right now it will just be in, whereever the repo is
20141027 21:23:45< ancestral> Hmm
20141027 21:24:30< ancestral> `find / -name wesnoth`
20141027 21:26:21< ancestral> I am a bit confused where it installed to
20141027 21:27:45< ancestral> Maybe ~/.local/share/wesnoth
20141027 21:27:56< ancestral> Hmm, no
20141027 21:28:02< ancestral> That’s just data
20141027 21:29:52< mattsc> ancestral: you might want to try -iname with find; the Xcode builds produce an executable called Wesnoth
20141027 21:30:20< mattsc> no idea if that’s the same in this case
20141027 21:30:25< iceiceice> ancestral: if you kne wwhere the Formula is,
20141027 21:30:30< ancestral> Yes
20141027 21:30:33< iceiceice> its in somewhere/Library/Formula/wesnoth.rb
20141027 21:30:44< iceiceice> i think the repo ends up in like, somewhere/Cellar/???
20141027 21:31:16< ancestral> Well, I see Macintosh HD ▸ usr ▸ local ▸ Cellar ▸ wesnoth ▸ HEAD
20141027 21:31:39< ancestral> And the created date is 4:06 PM
20141027 21:31:51< ancestral> So that’s right
20141027 21:32:05< zookeeper> shadowm, do you know anything about https://gna.org/bugs/?22866 ? that is, if you play a campaign, and then another campaign, the first campaign's images leak onto the second one.
20141027 21:32:13< ancestral> But all I see is changelog, COPYING, copyright, INSTALL_RECEIPT.json and README
20141027 21:32:15< zookeeper> i didn't think we still had a bug like that
20141027 21:32:25< shadowm> zookeeper: I've heard that before, long ago.
20141027 21:32:56< ancestral> mattsc: Even with homebrew?
20141027 21:33:29< mattsc> ancestral: I have no idea about homebrew.  Just saying, in case you cannot find it otherwise.
20141027 21:33:38< ancestral> Sure
20141027 21:33:42< ancestral> I feel like this should be in /usr/local/bin/ but it’s not there
20141027 21:34:07< zookeeper> shadowm, hmh, okay. luckily it's not that much of an issue now since the tutorial konrad and delfador portraits are named differently.
20141027 21:35:05< ancestral>  /usr/local/Library/LinkedKegs/ is also the same, no executable
20141027 21:35:14< ancestral> er /usr/local/Library/LinkedKegs/wesnoth.
20141027 21:35:33< zookeeper> (delfador.png in HttT is the human-clothed one, delfador.png in tutorial is the elvish-clothed one, but if you go from tutorial to HttT in one session, you're probably not going to play one of the scenarios where delfador uses human clothes...)
20141027 21:36:40< iceiceice> ancestral: you can try maybe adding a line `system "echo $PWD"`
20141027 21:36:45< iceiceice> right next to the scons?
20141027 21:36:51< iceiceice> and it should tell you where it is...
20141027 21:37:17< iceiceice> scons won't delete the executable until it gets to the linking phase
20141027 21:37:19< ancestral> Good idea
20141027 21:37:36< ancestral> Back to work, will try later
20141027 21:37:37< ancestral> Thanks
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20141027 22:43:29< shadowm> Anyone knows why this could happen? http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=577176#p577176
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20141027 22:50:10< iceiceice> i coudlnt reproduce on master
20141027 22:50:19< iceiceice> i dont have 1.12 compiled right now
20141027 22:50:26< iceiceice> i need to keep two checkouts i gues
20141027 22:51:02< shadowm> I can't reproduce it on 1.12 either, so it's obviously something more involved than that.
20141027 22:51:15< shadowm> Hence "why".
20141027 22:55:04< iceiceice> i would mark it "need info"
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