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20141031 00:00:34< shadowm> 1.11.17 too.
20141031 00:00:58< shadowm> 1.1.16 too.[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D1
20141031 00:02:56< shadowm> 1.11.15, 1.11.14, 1.11.13, 1.11.12, 1.11.11.
20141031 00:03:17< iceiceice> shadowm: it might be a library problem?
20141031 00:04:11< shadowm> I'm not sure, I only know I last played the scenario successfully on 1.11.7.
20141031 00:05:17< shadowm> valgrind memcheck only found this: http://pastebin.com/W2Di0Fai
20141031 00:06:08 * shadowm installs additional debugging symbols.
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20141031 00:06:42< iceiceice> maybe check ldd wesnoth also?
20141031 00:06:44< shadowm> I'm guessing --track-origins=yes will make everything at least 200% slower than it usually is.
20141031 00:06:51< shadowm> iceiceice: Why would I do that?
20141031 00:07:26< iceiceice> just to be sure that its not a mixup with some system library
20141031 00:07:47< shadowm> I don't understand your logic. Wesnoth is linked against system libraries.
20141031 00:08:01< iceiceice> did you change these libraries recently?
20141031 00:08:32< shadowm> Not since the last rebuild.
20141031 00:08:55< iceiceice> its wierd that you get some function names for libogg and libvorbisfile but not for sdl mixer
20141031 00:09:14< shadowm> It's not weird, I just didn't have SDL_mixer's symbols installed.
20141031 00:09:38< shadowm> The symbols that are listed are obviously export symbols.
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20141031 00:10:33< shadowm> Yay, here I wanted to get to scenario 10 before the end of the night. :\
20141031 00:12:07< shadowm> Unrelated: http://pastebin.com/yifJ4kK8
20141031 00:13:21< shadowm> The uninit value source backtrace is not particularly trivial to interpret.
20141031 00:14:03< shadowm> I'm guessing it's just throwing whatever led to the malloc call at the end and it's just an X11 problem.
20141031 00:14:28< iceiceice> wow this is wierd,
20141031 00:14:43< iceiceice> gettext-0.19.3 tarball doesn't contain a libintl.h
20141031 00:14:54< shadowm> So where I said 200% above I think I meant 400%.
20141031 00:16:38< shadowm> ==25967==  Uninitialised value was created by a stack allocation
20141031 00:16:38< shadowm> ==25967==    at 0x7CB0540: ov_pcm_seek_page (in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libvorbisfile.so.3.3.4)
20141031 00:16:45< shadowm> OK, library problem confirmed!
20141031 00:16:50< shadowm> I can now breathe.
20141031 00:17:28< shadowm> Unless valgrind says something completely different with the optimized build and it turns out we have code that doesn't play nice with an optimization.
20141031 00:17:46< shadowm> But that seems unlikely.
20141031 00:19:58< shadowm> It says a load of stuff about uninit values being used by GUI2 in the optimized build.
20141031 00:20:28< shadowm> I'm rather curious about clang's optimization choices now.
20141031 00:22:48< shadowm> It says this, which is about the same thing, then dies with a segmentation fault: http://pastebin.com/nxxgAfqM
20141031 00:23:14< shadowm> AFAICT the only difference is that one function in Wesnoth-land got inlined.
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20141031 00:23:56< shadowm> Soooo... what now?
20141031 00:24:38< shadowm> Valgrind doesn't say for some reason, but I guess ogg_page_serialno is from libogg?
20141031 00:26:04< shadowm> Even better question: why does *our* code's optimization level affect whether there is a segmentation fault or not? That doesn't make sense.
20141031 00:27:00< shadowm> Oh duh, I'm supposed to look at libvorbisfile.
20141031 00:27:25< shadowm> There's a newer version in sid.
20141031 00:28:51< shadowm> I'm going to check if it changes the outcome.
20141031 00:31:17< shadowm> No.
20141031 00:33:13< shadowm> Now I need to rebuild 1.11.7 through 1.11.9 to check.
20141031 00:35:04< shadowm> It seems 1.11.8 is the last version I built with gcc, hm.
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20141031 00:45:53< irker657> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 b0245098d8c8 / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Revert "Xcode project file: fix user data directory name" http://git.io/d7gQ4Q
20141031 00:45:55< irker657> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 1b7069b4c4bb / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Revert "Xcode project: switch to using the new boost filesystem code" http://git.io/PgzSyg
20141031 00:45:57< irker657> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 5081e0fee777 / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Revert "Xcode project: add 'Runpath Search Path" for wesnothd" http://git.io/u0G3xA
20141031 00:45:59< irker657> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 f487264db56b / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Revert "Xcode project: update boost and SDL libraries" http://git.io/fBvmOg
20141031 00:46:01< irker657> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 6397ffcb3016 / projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Xcode project: revert to the old filesystem code for Apple OS X http://git.io/ekNK2w
20141031 00:46:03< irker657> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:1.12 673f609558a7 / src/gettext.cpp: Add a missing include for Apple OS X http://git.io/bIuPSw
20141031 00:46:47< mattsc> iceiceice: that ^ is without any ifdefs for the sdl_mixer version or Xcode or anything.  Waiting for you on that.
20141031 00:49:27< shadowm> Okay, it happens even with a gcc-built 1.11.7.
20141031 00:49:50< shadowm> I have no idea what to do.
20141031 00:54:35< shadowm> I only know it completely breaks my campaign.
20141031 00:57:28< iceiceice> shadowm: maybe let someone else try also?
20141031 00:58:05< shadowm> Sure, who wants to try it?
20141031 00:58:18< iceiceice> i currently have all this linuxbrew bs in path
20141031 00:58:29< iceiceice> and its not finding gettext
20141031 00:58:34< iceiceice> if i can get it working i'll try
20141031 01:03:20< shadowm> This is why I shouldn't make Wesnoth campaigns.
20141031 01:05:00< iceiceice> mattsc: just looking at commit log, it looks like you reverted "fix user data dir name" ?
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20141031 01:08:06< iceiceice> ok, how do i reproduce this?
20141031 01:08:44< mattsc> iceiceice: that was just a typo in switching it over from filesystem.cpp to filesystem_boost.cpp.
20141031 01:09:53< mattsc> It’s back to the former with the correct value.
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20141031 01:16:24< iceiceice> shadowm: i was able to debug :n my way through, and get to the cutscene with all the music changes (pretty sure it was s6)
20141031 01:16:29< iceiceice> and i didn't crash
20141031 01:16:37< iceiceice> now i think i'm n s7
20141031 01:16:49< iceiceice> its called "the search for the past" although its not labeled
20141031 01:18:11< iceiceice> ok now i'm in "fear"
20141031 01:18:22< iceiceice> i got some wierd sound clipping at the end of the dungeon one just before it
20141031 01:18:31< iceiceice> but i didnt crash
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20141031 01:30:07< iceiceice> https://gist.github.com/cbeck88/e35200c5642819173eeb
20141031 01:30:10< iceiceice> shadowm: ^
20141031 01:30:21< iceiceice> it looks like as far as sdl_mixer, vorbis, and ogg are concerned it linked all the brew versions,
20141031 01:30:30< iceiceice> so with maximally updated libs i guess you shouldn't crash
20141031 01:30:35< iceiceice> compiled with g++ 4.9
20141031 01:30:52< iceiceice> thats with the wesnoth 1.11.18 from sourceforge tarball
20141031 01:35:06< shadowm> iceiceice: You could've used :cl to 06_02_Elves_of_a_Different_Land to make sure.
20141031 01:35:26< iceiceice> live and learn
20141031 01:35:28< shadowm> Also, you might need AtS_Music installed since it provides the music files used during the sequence, I'm not sure.
20141031 01:35:44< shadowm> That is, I'm not sure whether Wesnoth failing to load some of the files would alter the result.
20141031 01:36:03< shadowm> Also, O3 build, not O0. O0 won't segfault. I've not checked with O2 or O1 yet.
20141031 01:38:47< shadowm> I'm already using the latest libvorbis and libogg and I'm pretty sure SDL_mixer too (unless upstream decided to throw 1.2.x users a bone).
20141031 01:43:50< iceiceice> i installed that
20141031 01:43:59< iceiceice> the dependency manager did that
20141031 01:44:11< iceiceice> i think i tested scons default, so O2
20141031 01:44:20< shadowm> Had I been in your place I'd have chosen to not install it.
20141031 01:44:33< iceiceice> ehh
20141031 01:44:38< iceiceice> i knew it was a music issue
20141031 01:44:57< shadowm> So it doesn't hurt to make sure. Not everyone in the world has super-fast Internet.
20141031 01:45:13< shadowm> Or unrestricted monthly traffic.
20141031 01:46:06< shadowm> So I'm stuck deciding what to do about this.
20141031 01:47:08< shadowm> It crashes even if I change the delay.
20141031 01:47:10< iceiceice> mattsc: i think i have a patch ready for you, i am compiling it though
20141031 01:47:24< shadowm> I'm not sure what that could mean.
20141031 01:47:38< iceiceice> shadowm: you don't think you might have buggy libs or something?
20141031 01:47:41< shadowm> It crashes even if I remove the last fade_out_music, goddammit.
20141031 01:48:21< shadowm> iceiceice: Sure, but which and how and how do I deal with it in my campaign?
20141031 01:48:35< iceiceice> idk, try updating lib ogg
20141031 01:48:38< mattsc> iceiceice: cool - I’ll be here on and off throughout the next couple hours
20141031 01:48:41< shadowm> I ALREADY DID.
20141031 01:48:44< iceiceice> hmm 
20141031 01:48:48< iceiceice> can you compile lib ogg ?
20141031 01:48:52< iceiceice> the homebrew version didnt crash
20141031 01:48:56< shadowm> I could but I don't want to.
20141031 01:49:04< iceiceice> it might be that there's a bug in whatever debian version made it into stable
20141031 01:49:15< shadowm> And how would you explain that the Wesnoth optimization level affects the library's behavior?
20141031 01:49:23< shadowm> This is not Debian stable.
20141031 01:49:32< iceiceice> i dont know thats not wierd
20141031 01:49:35< iceiceice> *that is wierd
20141031 01:50:04< shadowm> Because that only affects Wesnoth code, the library remains unchanged, and we don't call the library direc--
20141031 01:50:35< shadowm> Actually, with the new editor functionality, we do call it directly, since it was IIRC made into a general thing for every track loaded even outside the editor.
20141031 01:50:46< shadowm> But memcheck doesn't find anything weird *in* Wesnoth.
20141031 01:51:03< iceiceice> maybe can try turning off optimizations a few at a time?
20141031 01:51:23< iceiceice> if theres one specific optimization maybe it will help to fix it, or we can decide to disable that
20141031 01:51:34< shadowm> Though, it's an uninitialized stack variable.
20141031 01:51:46< shadowm> I wish I knew exactly how the stack works.
20141031 01:52:17< shadowm> Does everything in the same process share the same stack, or do things get different stacks later down the road?
20141031 01:54:00< shadowm> Maybe we are poisoning vorbisfile through their uninitialized variable and that's why our optimization level defines the consequences.
20141031 01:56:00< shadowm> In fact, sound::play_new_music() gets inlined in the -O3 version and it's actually preceding the call to SDL_mixer.
20141031 01:58:00< shadowm> It's a rather large function to get inlined.
20141031 01:58:47< shadowm> But I guess the compiler's logic in this case is that it has exactly one caller and it gets called exactly once from it.
20141031 01:59:12< shadowm> It doesn't even have a return value or arguments.
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20141031 02:06:39< shadowm> It seems to have developed an allergy to silence.ogg in particular.
20141031 02:07:04< shadowm> Which is weird, because it's 10 seconds long.
20141031 02:07:37< shadowm> It's not like it's a 0 ms long border case that would make one of the libraries attempt to do something stupid.
20141031 02:08:07< shadowm> I tried giving it a title tag to silence to info-level warnings involving that, didn't make a difference either.
20141031 02:08:52< shadowm> Using victory2.ogg instead of silence.ogg in both ENDLEVEL_CONTINUE and fade_out_music, though, does eliminate the crash.
20141031 02:10:01< shadowm> Actually, maybe I'm being naïve in assuming a border case would involve sound timings. Looking at file sizes, silence.ogg is the smallest at 8 KiB.
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20141031 02:16:51< shadowm> Yep.
20141031 02:17:08< shadowm> I created a silence track weighing around 200 KiB and it works without segfaulting.
20141031 02:17:30< shadowm> Aren't computers fun.
20141031 02:17:59< shadowm> "silence track".
20141031 02:18:17< shadowm> It's actually pink noise with *very* low volume.
20141031 02:18:34< shadowm> Whereas the mainline silence.ogg is true silence.
20141031 02:18:40< irker657> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 2d8807357a5a / src/game_data.hpp: remove unused and undefined variable http://git.io/8NT6WQ
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20141031 02:22:20< shadowm> I am honestly too frustrated at this point to want to figure out what the upstream bug really is.
20141031 02:22:45< shadowm> So I'll just use my inaudible pink noise track in the next AtS release.
20141031 02:24:28< vultraz> What's the problem here? something I need to deal with in SoD?
20141031 02:25:31< shadowm> I am not sure because it's a very contrived scenario.
20141031 02:25:47< shadowm> No pun intended, honestly.
20141031 02:26:23< shadowm> Trying to play silence.ogg several times in a row causes a segmentation fault for me, but apparently no-one else, and not even valgrind can tell what's going on.
20141031 02:26:49< mattsc> shadowm: that does sound frustrating …
20141031 02:26:57< mattsc> “Silence will fall.”
20141031 02:27:05< mattsc> Or something like that ...
20141031 02:27:19 * vultraz presents mattsc with 1000 Doctor Who badges
20141031 02:28:14< mattsc> are they edible?
20141031 02:28:27< vultraz> Sure, since it's Halloween
20141031 02:28:49< mattsc> good then
20141031 02:31:12< shadowm> Is that a DW refrance.
20141031 02:31:24< vultraz> yes
20141031 02:31:42< vultraz> From season 6
20141031 02:31:56< shadowm> I don't care about the season, it makes no difference to me.
20141031 02:32:46< vultraz> That's the season where Amy names her daughter after her daughter
20141031 02:33:19< shadowm> Nope, don't insist.
20141031 02:33:49< vultraz> As you wish
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20141031 02:36:15< shadowm> Actually, I think I should be able to name it silence.ogg and it'll override mainline's through the binary_path mechanism...
20141031 02:37:01< vultraz> I never considered the absurdity that we have to have a music track filled with silence
20141031 02:37:13< vultraz> How come we can't just...not play any track
20141031 02:37:21< shadowm> Yes, it overrides it, good.
20141031 02:44:53< shadowm> vultraz: Ah yes, you. Could you :cl'ing to AtS E1S6.2, skipping all messages to the end with Escape and checking whether it crashes before the linger mode overlay appears?
20141031 02:44:59< shadowm> *:cl
20141031 02:45:30< shadowm> I suspect it won't reproduce for you, but still.
20141031 02:46:21< vultraz> latest AtS head and 1.11.18?
20141031 02:46:27< shadowm> Make sure you are using AtS from the add-ons server or the Git repository and have AtS Music installed.
20141031 02:46:47< vultraz> ah, i do not have AtS:M
20141031 02:46:52 * vultraz downloads
20141031 02:46:58< shadowm> It can be any Wesnoth version starting with 1.11.7.
20141031 02:47:15< shadowm> There are no relevant changes between the latest add-ons server release and AtS HEAD, hence I've made no mention of it.
20141031 02:59:00< vultraz> still downloading ats:m
20141031 02:59:19< shadowm> Obviously.
20141031 03:06:29< vultraz> shadowm: no
20141031 03:07:37< shadowm> vultraz: No what?
20141031 03:08:28< vultraz> no crash
20141031 03:08:31< shadowm> Okay.
20141031 03:09:37< vultraz> uh..
20141031 03:09:44< vultraz> i think I may have found an unrelated bug
20141031 03:10:02< vultraz> hm...nope
20141031 03:10:06< vultraz> dunno why that happened
20141031 03:10:24< shadowm> What did?
20141031 03:10:51< vultraz> I switched to fullscreen and then out of it and the wesnoth window disappeared
20141031 03:11:01< vultraz> But I can't reproduce it, so no idea
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20141031 03:14:52< irker657> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 972ae8d78a31 / src/sound.cpp: fixup preprocessor symbols controlling SDL MIXER min version http://git.io/uEmqEA
20141031 03:14:54< irker657> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 774cafc2be26 / src/game_data.hpp: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth http://git.io/L6rVBQ
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20141031 03:34:51< ancestral> iceiceice: I’ll try it again
20141031 03:35:05< iceiceice> ancestral: i made a PR to homebrew,
20141031 03:35:11< ancestral> Oh yeah?
20141031 03:35:12< iceiceice> also i figured out what was goin on
20141031 03:35:17< ancestral> You are keeping busy! :-P
20141031 03:35:24< iceiceice> basically, when i added that gettext dir thing, 
20141031 03:35:25< ancestral> Feel free to share
20141031 03:35:25< iceiceice> that broke linux
20141031 03:35:28< iceiceice> because,
20141031 03:35:37< iceiceice> on linuxbrew the gettext package is broken it seems and doesnt give libintl.h
20141031 03:35:52< iceiceice> when you dont specify gettext dir, scons will basically get the system libintl
20141031 03:35:52< ancestral> Hmm
20141031 03:36:24< iceiceice> so now that line cases out on OS
20141031 03:36:32< iceiceice> it shouldn't have changed anything for mac
20141031 03:37:00< iceiceice> https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-games/pull/165
20141031 03:41:06< ancestral> Oh awesome
20141031 03:41:46< iceiceice> yeah, im going to have to take out some stuff though, i guess they dont like oldstable
20141031 03:42:03< iceiceice> if we get the bundle thing working i'll make another PR
20141031 03:42:45< ancestral> This is pretty cool
20141031 03:43:26< ancestral> I was about to ask if homebrew-games gets much attention; it looks like it does
20141031 03:43:33< ancestral> I knew about homebrew, just didn’t know about the games part
20141031 03:48:23< iceiceice> actualy looking at it now im confused, i thought dwarf fortress is not open source?
20141031 03:48:57< iceiceice> i guess it just downloads the installer, thats kind of lame
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20141031 04:54:42< iceiceice> shadowm: you say that we link to "libogg" ?
20141031 04:54:50< iceiceice> i cant find anywhere that we seem to include this,
20141031 04:55:03< iceiceice> i did find it in my readelf log
20141031 04:56:42< shadowm> iceiceice: How else do you expect SDL_mixer and the 1.11.x music track tag reading code to be able to read Ogg Vorbis files?
20141031 04:57:54< iceiceice> no but do we link directly or only transitively
20141031 04:58:09< shadowm> "and the 1.11.x music track tag reading code"
20141031 04:59:18< iceiceice> im just trying to make sure, i got one of the deps wrong earlier
20141031 04:59:36< iceiceice> i couldn't find any includes of libogg, maybe i dont know what to look for
20141031 04:59:49< shadowm> (!defined(_WIN32) && !defined(__APPLE__) && !defined(PANDORA)) sound_music_track.cpp <- vorbis/vorbisfile.h <- vorbis/codec.h <- ogg/ogg.h.
20141031 05:00:20< shadowm> Plus it's a runtime dependency of SDL_mixer for similar reasons.
20141031 05:01:21< iceiceice> oh
20141031 05:01:36< iceiceice> the vorbis file header includes the ogg header?
20141031 05:02:00< shadowm> Ogg is the container format, Vorbis is the codec. To get to the heart of an .ogg file you'll invariably need libogg.
20141031 05:02:17< shadowm> Or an alternate implementation of the Ogg format.
20141031 05:02:20< iceiceice> right
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20141031 05:03:00< iceiceice> the homebrew people are specifically asking me if its a dep of wesnoth or just vorbisfile
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20141031 05:32:58< iceiceice> mattsc: ^ just pointing out that i patched SDL_mixer thingie
20141031 05:49:36< irker657> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master eeb92161e07e / src/ (11 files in 3 dirs): xBRZ trial commit http://git.io/kEvZ1Q
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20141031 05:49:50< irker657> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 88dcdeb1ee48 / src/help.cpp: fixup help pages for units, only one sprite (as usual) http://git.io/3ImpNQ
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20141031 05:49:58< irker657> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 0442e6514a9e / / (23 files in 7 dirs): Merge branch 'xBRZ' http://git.io/VyP90Q
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20141031 09:16:40< shadowm> iceiceice: AFAICT the xBRZ thingy is licensed under the "GNU GPL" (no version specified, the GPL says this is equivalent to all versions). Including a copy of the GNU GPL with it is pointless, and the GNU GPL v3 in particular is bad.
20141031 09:17:20< shadowm> (According to GNU themselves, v3 is incompatible with v2.)
20141031 09:18:21< shadowm> Also, I think uint32_t et all are not C++03.
20141031 09:18:58< shadowm> Oh, never mind, it's using the boost cstdint header.
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20141031 11:09:09< vultraz> The wiki was claiming the force_scroll key for MU and MUF was force_scrolling. I've fixed it, just a heads up.
20141031 11:10:07< vultraz> shadowm: also, there seems to be a weird MW issue. The DevFeature1.11 template is causing the subsequent line to be  treated as code lines
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20141031 11:21:50< AI0867> shadowm: I didn't really deal with lua integration, that was silene first and someone whose name I can't recall but did a lot of AI works afterwards
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20141031 12:43:18< iceiceice> shadowm: i have messaged the creator of xbrz to ask if we will additionaly license under GPL v2
20141031 12:43:28< iceiceice> *he will
20141031 12:49:57< iceiceice> he also writes in a sourceforge thread related to a different game that he's willing to give exceptions to the GPL entirely: https://sourceforge.net/p/hqmame/forums/general/thread/78d791a9/
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20141031 13:08:35< mattsc> iceiceice: thanks; I’ll try that out in 1.12 (it’s not needed in master, not for OS X at least, since we don’t support 10.5 there)
20141031 13:08:50< iceiceice> oh
20141031 13:08:54< iceiceice> im not sure if i backported yet
20141031 13:09:00< iceiceice> i dont remember doing it
20141031 13:09:25< mattsc> iceiceice: one little nitpick if I may, you logic will not catch all version numbers below 1.2.12 that are theoretically possible
20141031 13:09:39< mattsc> It will probably catch all those are of practical importance.
20141031 13:09:46< mattsc> s/those/that
20141031 13:10:29< mattsc> for example, if there were versions 0.3.1 or 1.1.14, those would slip through
20141031 13:10:35< iceiceice> yeah i gues that's right
20141031 13:10:49< mattsc> but as I said, for practical purposes that doesn’t matter
20141031 13:11:03< iceiceice> it should have some ||'s in there
20141031 13:11:32< mattsc> yeah, but simply replacing the &&’s by ||’s has similar problems
20141031 13:12:13< mattsc> anyways, as I said, it doesn’t really matter, so this is just a test trying to see if things like that bother you  ;)
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20141031 13:16:43< irker609> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master 22b7a3932e08 / / (10 files in 3 dirs): Merge branch 'save_png' http://git.io/eKiAkg
20141031 13:16:44< irker609> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master d4f05fd5aebf / src/sound.cpp: fixup SDL mixer version check http://git.io/37lIyw
20141031 13:19:07< mattsc> Ooo, more files to add …
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20141031 13:19:56< irker609> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:1.12 264dc08e91ab / src/sound.cpp: change preprocessor symbols controlling SDL MIXER min version http://git.io/r-yXaw
20141031 13:20:55< iceiceice> mattsc: ^
20141031 13:21:21< mattsc> iceiceice: thanks; already testing it
20141031 13:23:33< mattsc> iceiceice: yeah, all working now, thanks  (I even turned on music for a moment…)
20141031 13:24:48< mattsc> iceiceice: completely different question.  As I said on the mailing list, I’m going to turn off the ‘report to forums’ error message in the Micro AIs.
20141031 13:25:12< mattsc> I am thinking about leaving it in when debug mode is activated, rather than throwing it out entirely.  Do you think that’s a good idea?
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20141031 14:06:15< iceiceice> mattsc: maybe you can write the error to stderr instead?
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20141031 14:06:34< iceiceice> idk i dont know exactly what the error message is / how frequently it appears
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20141031 14:31:41< mattsc> iceiceice: the message looks like this: http://pastebin.com/nReSM5WC
20141031 14:31:57< mattsc> It is intentionally very disruptive.
20141031 14:32:39< mattsc> It appears whenever a Micro AI cannot execute the move that it wants to execute.
20141031 14:33:29< mattsc> For example, when it tries to attack an allied unit, or when it tries to move to an occupied or otherwise unreachable hex (due to bugs in the code).
20141031 14:33:32< iceiceice> if there were a way to disable it only for tunnels that would be one thing, but if you have to disable the general message,
20141031 14:33:47< iceiceice> idk i think big fat messages for big fat problems are good
20141031 14:33:50< mattsc> I don’t think you can.
20141031 14:34:18< iceiceice> i'm going to post on the mailing list to ask if this is a regression from 1.10
20141031 14:34:24< mattsc> The problem is that if I don’t do this, the result might be very subtle, because the AI just falls back to default behavior.
20141031 14:34:47< mattsc> So unless you know exactly what the AI is supposed to do, you might not notice anything.
20141031 14:35:44< mattsc> So I added that error message and it did help me find a couple bugs very quickly.  But I think by now it is more useful for development purposes than as a general tool.
20141031 14:36:20< mattsc> I think I’ll actually do both - have it appear in debug mode only, and at stderr only.
20141031 14:36:40< mattsc> iceiceice: sounds good (on the ML post)
20141031 14:37:00< iceiceice> actually im just going to test beetlenaut's test case
20141031 14:37:34< mattsc> although we should, in principle, try to fix it whether it’s a regression or not …
20141031 14:37:36< mattsc> ok
20141031 14:37:53< mattsc> (and yes, I know that’s easier said than done)
20141031 14:38:50< mattsc> Hmm, does Lua’s print() function write to stdout or stderr?
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20141031 14:42:52< mattsc> Ah, stdout.  Oh, well…
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20141031 15:01:22< mattsc> Ah, crap, but then I can’t get the error cascade information …
20141031 15:01:41< mattsc> Okay, I’ll keep it on screen then, but only in debug mode.
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20141031 15:03:35< gfgtdf> thunderstruck: flg_manager means FactionLeaderGender_manager ?
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20141031 15:09:43< gfgtdf> thunderstruck: can you explain this comment: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/030470282df6801084dba085f46053ec26b4490e/src/connect_engine.cpp#L1028 ? It seems like it deals wirth carryover stuff but it is in a if(!saved_game) so there cannot be any carryover  because it's a fresh game.
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20141031 15:25:11< iceiceice> ancestral: the homebrew people pointed out an annoying aspect of the formula,
20141031 15:25:36< iceiceice> because it was marked for OS X to require cairo, pango without x11 support,
20141031 15:25:57< iceiceice> if they had xquartz and had that support enabled, it would force them to recompile these
20141031 15:26:15< iceiceice> so they wanted me to make a change
20141031 15:26:46< ancestral> So have a flag for xquartz ignore or something?
20141031 15:26:49< iceiceice> i need you to test it though, if it still doesn't make a prompt for X11 (i think that was why i added this in the first place) ?
20141031 15:27:00< ancestral> Sure can, on my lunch today
20141031 15:27:04< iceiceice> i think they think the default install should just work
20141031 15:27:07< iceiceice> *default setting
20141031 15:27:14< iceiceice> as long as nothing is marked to require X11
20141031 15:27:24< iceiceice> ok, i updated the gist
20141031 15:27:28< ancestral> (I might be able to get away with running it while I work…)
20141031 15:27:33< iceiceice> thanks :)
20141031 15:27:40< ancestral> Of course!
20141031 15:27:45< ancestral> This is all great
20141031 15:28:20< ancestral> iceiceice: I have XQuartz installed… do you want me to run it as-is, or should I remove it?
20141031 15:30:01< iceiceice> i guess try to remove it maybe?
20141031 15:30:09< iceiceice> since wesnoth doesnt use x on apple
20141031 15:30:11< ancestral> I sure can, not a problem
20141031 15:30:14< ancestral> Right
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20141031 15:49:00< shadowm> iceiceice: It seems you did not understand what I said. The GPL says specifically that if you do not specify a version (see the xBRZ code files' headings at the start), it stands for all versions (even the obsolete v1).
20141031 15:49:25< shadowm> vultraz: Could you link me to an example?
20141031 15:49:51< shadowm> iceiceice: Therefore asking the author is at best redundant.
20141031 15:50:03< vultraz> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/DirectActionsWML#.5Bmove_unit.5D
20141031 15:50:05< vultraz> shadowm: 
20141031 15:50:05< shadowm> (At worst the author doesn't know how to use the GNU GPL.)
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20141031 15:51:16< shadowm> vultraz: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/index.php?title=Template:DevFeature1.11&action=history
20141031 15:51:17< vultraz> shadowm: and many other cases up and down that page
20141031 15:55:05< shadowm> I've PMd Xudo about it.
20141031 15:55:20< shadowm> You are a terrible wiki admin.
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20141031 16:00:17< vultraz> Thanks
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20141031 16:19:35< iceiceice> shadowm:
20141031 16:19:40< iceiceice> sourceforge lists the project as GPL v3
20141031 16:19:48< iceiceice> the guy included GPL v3 in the folder for the project
20141031 16:19:56< iceiceice> gpl says: "If the Program does not specify a version number of the
20141031 16:19:56< iceiceice> GNU General Public License, you may choose any version ever published
20141031 16:19:56< iceiceice> by the Free Software Foundation."
20141031 16:20:10< iceiceice> but i think if he included the body of gpl v3 with the source code then theres no ambiguity
20141031 16:22:46< shadowm> iceiceice: The source code defines the license.
20141031 16:23:20< shadowm> For example, Wesnoth is licensed under the GNU GPL v2 or later. The fact that we ship the GNU GPL version 2 at the root of the distribution does not impose a restriction over the version number.
20141031 16:24:15< iceiceice> i think its the readme, at the root of the distro, that defines the policy.
20141031 16:24:32< shadowm> That file usually doesn't define a license.
20141031 16:24:58< iceiceice> its not like the source files can be under different licenses anyways
20141031 16:25:11< iceiceice> unless the project is an aggregate or something
20141031 16:25:12< shadowm> They can.
20141031 16:25:22< iceiceice> in this case, theres like two files
20141031 16:25:24< iceiceice> a config file
20141031 16:25:25< iceiceice> a header
20141031 16:25:26< iceiceice> and a .c
20141031 16:25:32< iceiceice> you cant put these under different licenses
20141031 16:25:37< iceiceice> it doesn't make sense
20141031 16:25:43< shadowm> All of them say "GNU GPL".
20141031 16:26:25< iceiceice> in this case i'm more comfortable to ask the author,
20141031 16:26:34< iceiceice> there's apparently some kind of inconsistency.
20141031 16:26:47< iceiceice> why does he have the project listed ad GPL v3 on sourceforge for instance.
20141031 16:27:01< shadowm> We could list ourselves as GPL v3 too if we wanted.
20141031 16:27:05< iceiceice> we could
20141031 16:27:19< iceiceice> we could declare now that we are GPL v3 only if we wanted
20141031 16:27:28< iceiceice> or GPL v3 and later only
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20141031 16:28:25< iceiceice> the point remains, why did he include GPL v3 text in the project folder, if he only expects GPL v1 to apply?
20141031 16:28:34< iceiceice> thats an inconsistency
20141031 16:28:42< shadowm> Any version, not version 1.
20141031 16:28:50< iceiceice> sure
20141031 16:29:09< shadowm> I don't know, you could also ask why we don't include the GPL v3 in addition to the GPL v2 in uor d our distribution too.
20141031 16:29:24< iceiceice> probably it didn't exist yet
20141031 16:29:29< iceiceice> when we first applied the license
20141031 16:29:50< shadowm> I already said that in the worst case the author didn't read up on how to use the license that they themselves chose.
20141031 16:30:34< shadowm> And yes, the GPL v3 didn't exist in its finished form back in 2003, that I can say with absolute certainty.
20141031 16:31:09< iceiceice> well anyways the message to zenju is useful, i also took the opportunity to ask him if he knew of any project that had adapted xBRZ to use an alpha channel
20141031 16:31:59< shadowm> So what I'm trying to say is that ultimately it's a matter of how pessimistic you want to be.
20141031 16:32:59< shadowm> The logic is simple: the code says to read the linked license (not even the one in the distribution).
20141031 16:33:07< shadowm> The linked license says "if no version is specified blah blah blah".
20141031 16:34:35< shadowm> In other words, the GNU GPL v3 itself allows you to use the GNU GPL v2 if the author didn't explicitly restrict the code to v3.
20141031 16:34:51< iceiceice> i'll read it again, you are probably right
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20141031 16:40:14< shadowm> The Lua 5.2.0 -> 5.2.3 diff is 179 KiB, hm.
20141031 16:40:38< shadowm> And that's only the Makefile plus src/.
20141031 16:42:19< shadowm> Granted, a number of hunks are the CVS $Id$ thingies.
20141031 16:46:45< shadowm> 165 KiB without those.
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20141031 16:56:25< irker609> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master fddb0ac8a920 / src/xBRZ/License.txt: remove xBRZ's included copy of GPL (we already have such) http://git.io/lmEI9A
20141031 17:11:33< irker609> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master ea887c48cbd7 / src/xBRZ/ (config.hpp xbrz.cpp xbrz.hpp): add remarks on licensing to xBRZ headers http://git.io/mLBxXQ
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20141031 18:10:25< iceiceice> shadowm: does this look okay now, or does it still look like i don't know what i'm doing?
20141031 18:10:25< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/src/xBRZ/xbrz.cpp#L12
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20141031 18:21:30< ancestral> iceiceice: I removed wesnoth-new, gettext, sdl, and also removed XQuartz
20141031 18:21:49< ancestral> Now installing with `brew install --HEAD --build-os-x-bundle http://wesnoth.io/brew/head/wesnoth-new.rb`
20141031 18:21:51< iceiceice> did you remove pango / cairo?
20141031 18:21:56< ancestral> I can do that do
20141031 18:21:58< ancestral> *too
20141031 18:22:06< iceiceice> y thats the dep that changed
20141031 18:22:42< ancestral> Okay
20141031 18:22:53< ancestral> We’ll see if the app bundle gets deleted or not
20141031 18:23:13< ancestral> Despite the `mv` line you added I hadn’t seen the app bundle anywhere
20141031 18:24:14< iceiceice> but it doesn't give you an error?
20141031 18:24:38< ancestral> I didn’t yesterday, just the bundle wasn’t in ~/
20141031 18:24:42< ancestral> Or anywhere
20141031 18:24:58< ancestral> But it did work when you had it go to /usr/local/etc
20141031 18:25:07< ancestral> So… we’ll see what happens this time, in about 20 minutes
20141031 18:25:18< iceiceice> hmm
20141031 18:36:07< thunderstruck> gfgtdf: Yes, FLG stands for faction, leader and gender
20141031 18:36:17< thunderstruck> gfgtdf: I'll look at the comment in a bit
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20141031 18:38:48< thunderstruck> gfgtdf: The comment you are talking is related to a non-first scenario in a campaign. MP connect needs that tweak so that it would display a correct leader by default.
20141031 18:39:28< thunderstruck> gfgtdf: So carryover still applies here.
20141031 18:39:40< gfgtdf> thunderstruck: but carryover only aplied to reloaded games
20141031 18:39:46< gfgtdf> applies*
20141031 18:40:04< thunderstruck> gfgtdf: What about when you proceed from one scenario to another?
20141031 18:41:05< gfgtdf> thunderstruck: so you want to be able to change teh leader if you prceed from one scneario to andother btu not i it is a reloaded game ?
20141031 18:41:10< gfgtdf> another*
20141031 18:41:53< thunderstruck> gfgtdf: I think it should be possible to change leader in any case if your settings allow that.
20141031 18:42:11< thunderstruck> gfgtdf: Or at least that was an idea.
20141031 18:43:24< gfgtdf> thunderstruck: hm ok
20141031 18:44:11< irker609> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 781d7c813e32 / src/serialization/ (ucs4_iterator_base.hpp unicode_types.hpp): uint32_t -> boost::uint32_t http://git.io/bGXlTg
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20141031 18:48:48< iceiceice> gfgtdf: you backport the unicode change?
20141031 18:49:03< gfgtdf> iceiceice: you mean my commit 10 seonds ago ?
20141031 18:50:17< iceiceice> y :)
20141031 18:50:19< iceiceice> i'm just asking if you will
20141031 18:52:19< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ok
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20141031 18:53:33< irker609> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:1.12 c73d68f4966d / src/serialization/ucs4_iterator_base.hpp: remove an unneeded include http://git.io/lQaR2g
20141031 18:56:04< irker609> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:1.12 8100479af341 / src/serialization/unicode_types.hpp: uint32_t -> boost::uint32_t http://git.io/c3MJwQ
20141031 18:56:09< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ^
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20141031 19:02:27< shadowm> iceiceice: ... I just don't understand the point of prepending your own heading to it.
20141031 19:02:47< shadowm> With non-standard formatting, even.
20141031 19:03:10< iceiceice> well i changed it
20141031 19:03:35< iceiceice> i think im required to note that somehow?
20141031 19:03:51< iceiceice> i decided i dont have reason not to explicitly extend his GPL exception for mame
20141031 19:10:34< shadowm> Can I somehow revert a commit only for specific paths?
20141031 19:12:54< irker609> wesnoth: Chusslove Illich (Часлав Илић) wesnoth:1.12 0d3c425f8287 / / (3 files in 3 dirs): Update localized images for Portuguese http://git.io/v9TgEw
20141031 19:14:56< irker609> wesnoth: Chusslove Illich (Часлав Илић) wesnoth:1.12 8b8993e9c575 / / (3 files in 3 dirs): Move German overlay for LoW map to proper place http://git.io/ZokcLQ
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20141031 19:40:38< gfgtdf> thunderstruck: do you think "game_setup" is a good name for a namespace to move alll teh multiplayer_.. singleplayer_... and .._engine  files in ?
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20141031 20:27:20< irker609> wesnoth: Chris Beck wesnoth:master afa7af6cdbc8 / changelog: update changelog http://git.io/02wvwQ
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20141031 20:41:15< ancestral> iceiceice: When you get back on, got some interesting errors in homebrew
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20141031 20:42:01< ancestral> curl: (60) SSL certificate problem: Invalid certificate chain
20141031 20:42:14< ancestral> Maybe it’s because I am doing a redirect
20141031 20:42:25< ancestral> wesnoth.io isn’t SSL and github is
20141031 20:43:01< ancestral> Going to brew update
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20141031 20:44:50< iceiceice> ancestral: doesnt gitub also have http links?
20141031 20:45:02< ancestral> Possibly, but now https://gist.githubusercontent.com/cbeck88/f5898a5cbdfe99a8d427/raw/ isn’t working for me
20141031 20:45:15< iceiceice> hmm
20141031 20:45:19< ancestral> Might be some kind of firewall issue here at work
20141031 20:45:22< iceiceice> that link works for me
20141031 20:45:24< iceiceice> ok
20141031 20:45:39< ancestral> I think there’s a way to generate that link via github.com
20141031 20:45:46< ancestral> Going to try to find that
20141031 20:49:08< ancestral> https://gist.github.com/cbeck88/f5898a5cbdfe99a8d427 will load
20141031 20:49:41< ancestral> iceiceice: Maybe GitHub doesn’t like people hotlinking to them?
20141031 20:50:19< thunderstruck> gfgtdf: For some reason I'd prefer game_init.
20141031 20:50:25< ancestral> I’m going to take your current copy and put it up on my server
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20141031 20:51:24< ancestral> Still could be a SSL/work issue
20141031 20:52:03< iceiceice> ancestral: i'l try your link also i think
20141031 20:52:31< ancestral> I’ll leave it alone
20141031 20:52:44< ancestral> Instead I’ll just use http://wesnoth.io/wesnoth-new.rb
20141031 20:53:10< ancestral> Ugh sending FTP passwords in plaintext
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20141031 20:53:36< ancestral> alright, it’s building now
20141031 21:04:13< iceiceice> ancestral: so this is what i think is going (c.f. this comment) https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-games/pull/165#issuecomment-61309972
20141031 21:04:34< iceiceice> homebrew mostly wants you to install xquartz, because most of their packages require X
20141031 21:04:40< iceiceice> and xquartz is really the only way
20141031 21:05:02< gfgtdf> thunderstruck: thats ok too
20141031 21:05:15< iceiceice> what they don't want to happen is if you install wesnoth, it breaks your deps for all other packages
20141031 21:06:23< iceiceice> because the way they've made it work is that with x support is the default for pango/cairo
20141031 21:06:31< iceiceice> and if you dont have it then it prompts you
20141031 21:06:37< iceiceice> i guess we'll see if that actually happens like described,
20141031 21:06:39< iceiceice> but i think it might
20141031 21:06:47< iceiceice> so i suggested maybe there could be some switch like "if :x11 depends_on pango-cairo, else depends on pango-cairo => without_x"
20141031 21:07:08< iceiceice> so the dependency changes to be agnostic to your current setup with x or not
20141031 21:07:16< iceiceice> but having messed around with brew i think that might be very frail
20141031 21:07:26< iceiceice> hard to explain why...
20141031 21:08:01< iceiceice> what misty suggests is that, if you want pangocairo without x, then just write "brew install cairo --without-x && brew install pango --without-x && brew install wesnoth"
20141031 21:08:16< iceiceice> and then it wont bother you about x
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20141031 21:10:57< irker609> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master ff9f9ceb3aee / src/ (game_board.cpp game_board.hpp playsingle_controller.cpp): rename game_board::all_survivors_to_recall http://git.io/0Tz58Q
20141031 21:10:59< irker609> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 18d767e3ff4e / src/tests/test_make_enum.cpp: fixed unused variable warning http://git.io/dwCf8w
20141031 21:17:24< mattsc> same here
20141031 21:17:38< mattsc> oops, wrong window
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20141031 21:23:56< ancestral> iceiceice: The thing is, homebrew can’t install XQuartz
20141031 21:24:33< ancestral> So that seems kind of stupid, to ask people to go elsewhere to install XQuartz for Wesnoth
20141031 21:24:52< ancestral> when it’s not even required
20141031 21:25:44< iceiceice> yeah, i'm not saying they should
20141031 21:26:24< iceiceice> i think either we should, change the default install instructions to carry the cairo / pango preface,
20141031 21:26:38< iceiceice> or try to test the "if :x11" check and see if it actually makes you reinstall things
20141031 21:27:38< iceiceice> in this case somehow their system has it backwards, instead of viewing x11 support as an "add-on" that doesn't destroy functionality, x11 support is something you get unless you declare that it will break things
20141031 21:28:28< iceiceice> its hard for me to test and play around with this, because i cant really uninstall x11 :p
20141031 21:28:39< ancestral> Right
20141031 21:28:45< ancestral> Man, I need to buy you a MAc
20141031 21:28:47< ancestral> *Mac
20141031 21:29:37< iceiceice> lol
20141031 21:30:01< iceiceice> i think my brother had a mac, but it got destroyed when he was at college somehow
20141031 21:30:08< ancestral> Ouch
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20141031 23:43:12< iceiceice> gfgtdf: there?
20141031 23:43:20< gfgtdf> iceiceice: y
20141031 23:43:28< iceiceice> can i ask you a question about RW_ops stuff?
20141031 23:43:52< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i think we really need a "yes this build failed but i know it's ok" button that makes the build green..
20141031 23:44:05< gfgtdf> iceiceice: sure
20141031 23:44:38< iceiceice> ok, i just merged some external code, that has a routine to save png files
20141031 23:44:42< iceiceice> so we can save png files instead of bmp
20141031 23:44:46< iceiceice> in this commit:
20141031 23:44:47< iceiceice> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/8dfdc6b185f7d9c5d6166f28dd2693fc64a30a27
20141031 23:45:00< iceiceice> i realized theres something going on in there with RW_ops though
20141031 23:45:08< iceiceice> do i need to make a call to filesystem::Get_rw_ops or something?
20141031 23:46:29< iceiceice> i guess they are using some kind of default RW object here, in the header: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/src/SDL_SavePNG/savepng.h#L17
20141031 23:48:30< gfgtdf> iceiceice: hm i think SDL_RWFromFile dosen understadn utf8 on widnows but im not 100% sure.
20141031 23:48:35< gfgtdf> does*
20141031 23:49:33< gfgtdf> iceiceice: but you coudl also call our filesystem function instead of SDL_RWFromFile
20141031 23:49:49< iceiceice> yeah its probably safer i guess
20141031 23:51:06< gfgtdf> iceiceice: in fact i think SDL_RWFromFile understands utf8 on windows, but the internal sdl mixer code is like "if(fopen(filename)) { rw = SDL_RWFromFile(filename)}"  and fopen accepts only ansi strings win windows.
20141031 23:52:00< gfgtdf> s/fopen/ some std c function taht checks whether a file exists
20141031 23:53:51< iceiceice> hmm ok
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20141031 23:56:26< gfgtdf> iceiceice: i can check whether the current code works on windows with unicode characters, but i think in any case it'd be using our own filesystem function would more consistent. Although i don't think we have ever tested them for writing.
20141031 23:56:55< gfgtdf> iceiceice: ok seems liek my defult dependency has no png support so i cannot test
20141031 23:57:27< iceiceice> wait you cannot compile it?
20141031 23:57:35< iceiceice> its suppose to depend on ifdef HAVE_LIBPNG
20141031 23:57:43< iceiceice> oh, i misunderstood
20141031 23:57:48< iceiceice> sorry about png dep.
20141031 23:57:56< gfgtdf> iceiceice: yes i defined HAVE_LIBPNG and i didnt compile
20141031 23:58:02< gfgtdf> iceiceice: by defult is disabled
20141031 23:58:14< iceiceice> i was thinking to change to filesystem code for consistency anyways
20141031 23:58:21< iceiceice> maybe i'll remove that macro
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