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I have a question about the ipad app (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/battle-for-wesnoth-hd/id575852062?mt=8). The website says that battle for wesnoth is free and open source under gpl, yet the ipad app as far as i can tell is both charging 4 bucks for it and does not have the app source code readily available. is this app something which the community has developed and grandfathered in some ability to charge money and 20141019 15:27:07< DeFender1031> in violation of the open source license? 20141019 15:29:24< shadowm> DeFender1031: The source code is available: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=37879 20141019 15:29:50< shadowm> The website says that Wesnoth is "Free" (linking to the GNU GPL), not gratis. 20141019 15:30:25< shadowm> You can rest assured we'll never charge money for the mainline (Windows/OS X/Linux) version, though. 20141019 15:32:20< shadowm> s/GNU GPL/GNU's page on the free software philosophy/, oops. 20141019 15:32:30-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: Bye for now] 20141019 15:32:35< shadowm> Doesn't invalidate my point, anyway. 20141019 15:32:41< DeFender1031> gotch 20141019 15:32:44< DeFender1031> a 20141019 15:33:28< DeFender1031> so basically, if i had a developer suite such that i could compile something for ipad, i'd be able to get it for free... (or gratis, as you say) 20141019 15:34:12< DeFender1031> can i ask why the decision was made to charge for the ios version and not fo any of the mainline ports? 20141019 15:34:57-!- ITChap [~syscowboy@112.0.89.3] has joined #wesnoth 20141019 15:34:58< shadowm> I don't know about that, though I'd expect it's simply because the porter is a single person doing all the work. 20141019 15:35:24< elias> anyone is free to sell the desktop ports either 20141019 15:35:42< Crendgrim> Do you need to pay the fee to distribute free contents on the Apple store? 20141019 15:36:16< elias> yes 20141019 15:36:28< DeFender1031> ah 20141019 15:36:31< DeFender1031> good point 20141019 15:36:40< DeFender1031> (Re: Crendgrim) 20141019 15:37:28< DeFender1031> elias, yes, i know that gpl allows you to sell code for money as well, though at the same time, anyone else can take the source and sell for less, give for free, etc. 20141019 15:38:09-!- ArneBab [~quassel@55d4699c.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20141019 15:38:59< DeFender1031> also somewhat impressive that a single person managed to put together everything necessary to get it to run on ios... 20141019 15:40:11< DeFender1031> if that person is either here now or comes here sometimes, let them know that they have the admiration of a total stranger who happened to find wesnoth and wesnoth for ipad. 20141019 15:45:29-!- ArneBab [~quassel@55d4699c.access.ecotel.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141019 15:47:00-!- trewe [~trewe@bl20-8-217.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #wesnoth 20141019 16:10:45-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20141019 16:17:08-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20141019 16:17:12-!- shadowm_desktop2 [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowm] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20141019 16:17:19-!- DeFender1031 [6c1209e3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.18.9.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20141019 16:20:13-!- 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